The secret power of meta glasses for biz owners

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Welcome back to another episode of Lazy Leverage. I'm John Matzner. I'm joined by my, uh, partner in crime, Peter Lohmann. How are you today, Peter?

Doing well, man. We're recording early, so you're on East Coast, which is crazy. I never get to talk to you at this time in the morning, so it's a rare treat.

I am, yep. And I've got a small window before kind of going into the holiday weekend, and so wanted to at least get a little bit of, uh, pod made. We have two potential topics today. We'll see, um, uh, the first one I think is fun. We'll see how much we kind of grab onto it, and, uh, if it runs out of steam, there's a second one that is— could easily be its own episode that we could jump into. But, um, uh, anything before we get started and I kind of tee things up?

Hmm, no, let's get— let's get right into it, man.

Cool. So what we're talking about today is what is currently on my face, which are Meta Ray-Ban glasses.

Yeah.

This is to give a little context here. I am, as always, and you to kind of put some shape around this, I am always interested in the bridge between technology and non-technology, bringing technology out of Slack out of, you know, computer-based work and into day-to-day existence.

You're starting to sound so much like my business partner Adam. I don't know if I mentioned on the show, but famously my business partner Adam, for like 15 years, has described to me his fantasy, his work fantasy, which is he arrives to the office and on his desk is nothing. There is no computer anywhere at his desk. He does not have a laptop. He's not on his cell phone. He wants to come in and like work on paper and then leave and not take any phone calls or deal with any emails or text messages or anything. Like no tech. I think you're going that direction, it sounds like.

Yeah, I think mine is probably my phone, or it's like, or it's, it's like a phone only, no apps or something like that. I don't exactly know what it is, but I, you know, whether it's— I did a piece the other day on NFC tags Um, tapping my phone because I think there's a ton you could do that. And it's this kind of blend of the simplicity and space that being offline gives you, but with the ability to strategically burrow into high-leverage technology on your terms and not be a slave to notifications and interruptions and correspondence. And, and so it's like, I want to absorb the best parts of technology on my terms and remove the, the types of technology that is like, I'm beholden to HubSpot notifications. So that is what starts me on this journey, which is why I'm perpetually chasing it. With me on all that?

Yeah, I'm with you on all that. And it's so challenging. Like, everything in our digital life is set up to suck us in. Yeah. I mean, like just about every day I'll open up LinkedIn to make a post. And as soon as I open up LinkedIn, not only do I see posts from the feed that look interesting and hook me, but then there's also like the red notifications as well that I wanna like check. And half the time I realize I've been scrolling LinkedIn and clicking around for 5 or 10 minutes. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to be making a post here. Yeah, um, and it's, it's so difficult. So yeah, and like, I remember your post about the NFC and like your morning brief getting like printed off.

And, and, and PC— NFC crypto thing. And that's an NFC. I don't think it's NFC.

It's some sort of field communications.

Yeah, yeah, it is NFC. Okay, yeah, that's also like the CryptoPunks.

The crypto thing is NFC. T, not NFC.

Okay, all right.

T isn't, um, for crypto.

Close in my, my sleep-deprived brain.

But yeah, we're like, you would tap that and would print off your morning brief. You'd grab it and go out, step outside with your cup of coffee and listen to the, you know, the waves crashing on the San Diego beach and all that.

Yep, which I use. And so I, um, I have been messing around with these. These are, uh, Meta Ray-Ban glasses.

Um, so if you're listening, they look like normal glasses, but they have a camera and speakers and a microphone all embedded in the frame and battery and everything. But you couldn't really tell unless you really looked.

Yep. And these are transition lenses, so they're, they're clear right now because I'm inside, but if I step outside, they become sunglasses, which is also cool because, you know, and you can get prescription and stuff.

It's really cool.

Prescription, you can get athletic frames, you can whatever. Um, and there's actually a new version, so this is an older version, and I think they were maybe $300, something like that. Um, and, uh, so I originally got them because I'd originally sent a pair to, uh, Eric Pacifici, uh, SMB Law dude, just as like a referral thing. And he kept sending me these pictures of him like playing with his kids. And I originally did it because when I'm like having a catch with one of— I should say one of my sons, um, I didn't want to like whip my phone out and be like, okay, throw it again, Otto. Like, I wanted to be able to like in the moment be able to turn on video or snap a picture without pulling myself out of the mode and grabbing my phone. Regardless of— I just wanted to have my hands, you know, I have twins, my hands are oftentimes busy, like And so that was what pulled me to it originally, was like kid moments when I'm on the beach and I don't want to pull this device out to take a video of Otto playing with the sandcastle. Does that make sense?

Totally. Yeah.

That was what originally pulled me. And just so people see, if I touch the side of my frame and tap a button, that takes a picture. If I hold it, it starts recording a video, or I can also control it with my voice. Hey, Meta, start a video. And you'll see—

oh cool, it's now blinking. Yeah.

Hey Meta, I'll just tap it, stop it. Okay. Yeah, so it is now paired to my— it now goes to my phone, it ends up in my camera reel. That part's all easy. I like that. Whatever.

Does it sync automatically?

It does.

Okay, I gotta set up that part up because I don't think mine is syncing automatically. So I have a pair as well. I got a pair as a gift and I've barely— I have it set up and I've used it like a tiny little bit. But I haven't done much with it. And so that's why I'm really interested to hear from you, like, your use cases and how to use it and how to integrate it with your, kind of, your life.

Yep. Now, uh, you can also turn on the integrators to, uh, and this is where it now— so it started as a kid thing, and I'm like, this is cool, whatever. I've now realized that given how much, you know, content I make, part of my job is to try new technologies, right? It's actually a part of my job. Like, I need to have an opinion about this. Is this worth it? Is it too expensive? Whatever. So I was like, okay, I'll buy them, and I don't really need it, but like I'll play around with it. And of course, as inevitably happens, I start thinking about how to use it for business, right?

Well, what's funny is, uh, you, you not only did you start thinking about how to use it for business, but you started thinking about how to use it for task capture. Say everything in John's life becomes a task capture device.

It all starts there, right? It all starts there. So I'm, you know, for a, uh, you know, as always, I'm a non-technical guy, but I love technology. And so I started kind of playing around with it and trying to limit it. Okay. So the first thing that you have to do is within the Meta app, you need to turn on these connectors. So you have to turn on connectors to be able to send a message, a text message. Now it doesn't send an iMessage. It sends a text message. You also need to, you also need to connect it to your, I think, calendar, Gmail. I think it can send emails. I forget. I could pull it up right now. But Uh, sorry, it doesn't send Gmails. It can read them though. And, but it can natively integrate with WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, and Instagram DMs because those are all Facebook products, which is their Facebook hardware. But as always, like you and I have talked about, as much as they want to keep you in their ecosystem, you can, you can sneak out, which is what I've done, which is I don't want to fuckin' rebuild my workflows on Facebook Messenger. I don't use Facebook Messenger, right? And so you can sneak out, which is very important for what we're gonna be talking about because it does—

did you use my age-old backdoor email?

No. Yes, but a version of it, right? So that was where I started, which is it wants you to stay in the Facebook Meta app and I don't wanna stay in it. I wanna use more powerful AI. I wanna use what? Okay. So what the backdoor here— and again, I'm not crazy technical, but they don't expose like an API. They don't expose a webhook. But the backdoor here is that you can send text messages. If you can send text messages, guess who or what I can text message? My agent.

Mm-hmm.

I can text Codex.

Mm-hmm.

And now that I can text Codex, I can teach Codex what to do when I send it certain messages, which in effect means that I can now interact with my brain, my Slack, my computer use, my social media profile, all with my voice from the glasses.

Yeah.

And so the connection for me was they want to keep me in Meta AI. I'm not going to do that. Therefore, I can now backdoor it via saying, hey Meta, send a message to Codex.

Mm-hmm.

It's now saying, right, add to my inbox to buy more bananas at the grocery store. It's talking to me right now in my ear.

Almost hear it. Yeah. Yeah.

And so off you go right now. It goes to Codex and now it touches my GTD. It touches my whatever. Right. So that was kind of like step one was like how to jail— not jailbreak it, but like it doesn't want you. It doesn't have an exposed API, but it's like, baby, I got, I got. Right. So that's the, that's the first one. So does that all make sense?

Yeah. And I like, I like that because Similar to how you're talking about with not wanting to like take your phone out and take a picture and you're kind of like ruining the moment or you're taking yourself and your kid out of the moment. It's the same thing where you're like, you're walking around the house, you open the fridge and you're like, oh, we're low on milk. Like, damn it. And you're like, well, I could open up my phone and like find the grocery list with my wife and try to add milk. But how much easier if you're already wearing your glasses to just say, hey, Thing, add milk to my grocery list.

Correct.

Um, that is compelling because your glasses you always have on, especially if they're transitions and you wear them inside and outside.

Correct. Which is what I've been doing these days. Yeah.

That's just great.

You also see where it's going. Like, it's gonna keep— this is, you know, they'll have native, they'll pipe into Zapier. Like, you can see where it's going over time, but for right now today, it's actually remarkably simple to just text your agent, whether it's your Open Claw, your Codex, your Claude. Easy, easy, easy, easy. Right now what you have to do is you have to save a contact in your phone under your SMS number for your, you know, Codex session, which is— of course, yeah, SendBlue, which is an easy iMessage whatever, or, or whatever it ends up, you know, there's a million different ways to do it. But, um, uh, you save it as a contact and now it knows contact. Okay, so that's kind of way in one. Now the second way in, and then we'll talk about business uses, the second way in Oh, by the way, you can also do a video, uh, and voiceover the video. And then I told my Codex that when I send it a video to look at the transcript and use that as context for what's in the image. So I could also say, hey, add a new inbox. I say record a video and I'm talking over it, and then I say, yo, send that video to my Codex, and it could be walkthrough of the sprinkler system.

Mm-hmm.

And it's, it's, it's enriching the video with my voiceover and Codex will listen to the audio and the image. And so I can also get good input in that way. So that's the second, second way that I've done it. And it's just like a video. So that's really nice. I like that. And I told my Codex, like, when you file it, for example, listen to the audio and use a descriptive title. And it goes, okay, cool. Every time you send me a Meta Glasses message, I will look at the image and it won't just say image 787, it will say picture of child playing football. And I'm like, that just helps. It's just like a little knickknack thing though that lets it be easier in my personal life to manage. You cool with that?

Yeah, that's cool. I got to figure out how to text my Claude. Yeah, that's set up right now.

Yeah, there's, there's definitely ways to do it. I'm using Codex, which is really easy, uh, to do. You just say turn on iMessage or turn on messaging in this session and then I leave it always on, on my iMac. Um, yeah, my— but yeah, there's definitely ways to do it, uh, with Cloud. Super easy. Okay. Um, okay. So then there's the third one, which isn't really that fancy. And then we'll talk business applications. The third one isn't really that fancy, but it's been something that I've wanted to do forever that I've ne— that I've never been able to do. Which is I have a lot of scenarios where I want a really long voice note because I'm on a walk and I want to talk and I want it to be as absolutely frictionless as possible. And what I've seen is the most reliable way to do that in my life is actually a phone call. It's basically just, I want to leave myself a voicemail and then I want that voicemail to get kind of like looked at and stuck in a Google stock or whatever it is, right? And I've had a million different workflows like this for years at this point where it was like, oh, it was an Apple voice note that I uploaded to a Dropbox, and then it was— but like, I had a million different ways. I've always been chasing the— my most popular one is when I'm in the car, when I'm driving, I don't want to grab my phone, but sometimes I want to talk for 3 minutes because I finally have a good idea for a newsletter that I want to write, and I just want to ramble, ramble, ramble. So that workflow, especially if it can also do tool calling, is a very valuable workflow. So you know what, when I say tool calling, what I mean?

Hmm.

So it's not just leaving a message and transcribing it. In the message, the message itself is read, and I can say, hey, by the way, when you write this memo, go into my Slack and look 'Look up the names of all the Crane attendees of last event and enrich that in the memo I want you to write and use this Claude skill to mimic a Crane newsletter and compare the attendee list against this Google.' So it calls tools from that text. So I also want to—

it's not just dumping the transcript in a note somewhere, it's actually listening and processing like a— just like a real assistant would be doing.

Correct. It's tool call. It's grabbing Airtable or it's grabbing whatever skills I've taught it. It's calling external. So tool calling is how this stuff gets really easy, right? So the simple, easy, easy one that I set up was I just created a contact in my phone called my agent. And so now at any point from my phone or importantly, my glasses, I can say, hey, activation word. I'm not going to say it because then it's going to turn on. Call my agent.

Hey, call my agent. This is like you're a Hollywood star or something. It's fun.

Call my agent. Then what I did was I just set up a free Google Voice that automatically transcribes it, and then I set up email forwarding from my Google Voice, which transcribes it, to my Codex agent and says, whenever you get a Google Voice transcript from this approved email address, I want you to treat that as if it comes from me, not from any email address, because then random people could call my tools, but only from my whitelist. Then it kicks over to my agent at my agent's email address at agentmail, and it reads the whole thing and it goes, oh, here's a 4-page freaking brain dump that John just did, and there's 3 things that don't need to go to the inbox and 2 Slack things and a memo that needs to be written and Airtable search or whatever, but I can now all do that hands-free while driving from my glasses, which has been something that I've been chasing for a while. So that's like the third personal use that I'm finding myself. I'm just using like crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy.

Okay. So Google Voice does transcription for free, right?

Yep. When you leave it a message, which is what I, which is I just have it ring right to voicemail. When I—

and that trans— that transcription is, is good? Like, it's usable? Okay.

Yep, totally. Now you could set this up with Twilio. You could have a— but I was like, I want the— like, what's the— I could set up a Google Voice in 31 seconds, and then all I did was just create a forwarding rule that says when you get a Google Voice from this number, forward it to my agent. That was—

that's slick.

Yeah, yeah. So those are, those are 3 personal use cases. And again, somebody's gonna be like, oh, you could— I'm like, I'm not that smart. This works. I'm not trying to code a backend in Twilio. Come on.

Come on.

That's not me. Like, that's not me. So questions on those 3 personal use cases? Because they've just made more seamless my interaction with technology on my terms.

I think I'll be curious if you're still on this workflow in 90 days. You jump around a lot and I'm, you're always like finding the next best thing. And I think when you found something that works for 90 days, I'll probably start it.

I think that's a good—

yeah, this is gonna be good.

I think that's a good goal.

Yeah. No, it's not like a knock on you or anything, but you're, you're just trying out a bunch of stuff and like, just from watching you over years now, like when you do find something that works great, you stick with it for a long time. So. I have these glasses.

Yeah, what I would say is, but what you— I think you see is directionally what I'm chasing is always the same thing, which is like, oh, totally, more friction, my terms, more horsepower. So it's like 3 years ago it was like an Apple Watch thing, but then when I got back to my computer, I had to manually upload the Apple Voice Notes to a Dropbox folder, which was 4 taps, and I stopped Like it was good, but it wasn't great. Like 4 years ago, it was WhatsApp messages to my assistant who was then like, so I'm always pursuing like the same direction. It's just, I'm looking for like better and faster tooling or something like that. You know?

Um, yeah. And like you mentioned your assistant, I mean, this could easily be handled by an assistant as well. Like you could just have a number that. Like that same Google Voice, the transcript just could just go to Monica for me, for example.

Of course.

Um, but yeah, I mean, some things are going to be faster and more efficiently handled by, you know, an agent. A lot of things, actually. Yeah.

So that was— so that— okay, so that's personal use. Now, the place where I think this gets really interesting, which I of course always have an eye towards, is, um, is home and professional services use. So the one that immediately jumps out to me like crazy, because I wanted to do something like this, but the technology wasn't there yet, is everybody says, I wanna make more content. I would give these to my crews and I would say, when you're on site installing a water heater, literally all you have to do is hold this button and freaking change the filter. And then when you get back, it's automatically uploaded. Goes into the cloud, and now my overseas video editor has actual good footage to put on our Instagram every day.

Yeah.

So it's frictionless, you know, frictionless integration of, of content collection because there's so many different points where if I had an easy, low-friction way to do this, my team would collect— hey, we're giving a prize this month to whoever submits the most pictures from maintenance calls to the RL media feed. And now— and all you get is $300. And now you're finally— you're not just doing like shitty, you know, stock images on RL's Instagram anymore. You actually have a real shot of producing.

Yeah, content is funny. Like, I, I've always felt with content that the— maybe constraint is the right word here— constraint bounces around for me with content a lot. So I have like a chaotic content business. I either have way too much content being produced every week and not the right people to turn it into, uh, way too much raw content being produced and not enough people to turn it into posts and, and like content, like newsletters and videos and shorts and stuff like that. Or I have people who are begging for more content to use and not enough raw footage, raw audio, you know, raw content. So it's like you have to somehow balance these two parts of content to create a really good content machine because they're so different. Like, it's completely different people that do those two things. Like, you and I create a lot of raw content, but neither of us knows anything about how to edit a video or like the right clips or like any of that. So we have to rely on other people for that part of it. And I've all— I feel like I'm always chasing my tail here of like, all right, well, I started this new podcast, but I don't have an editor. And then like all of a sudden I have like all these producers and editors who are like, when are you recording? Like, we need more stuff. And I'm like, uh, so it's like real challenging part of like trying to do this.

You're right though, it is kind of— it's especially given the fact that you run a media company. Company, you could absolutely say that it is— it's an independent value creation stream that has its own constraint, that has its own on-time task completion, that has its own throughput, it has its own chaos or not. Like, if you think about it like that, then you're— it's exactly the same type of challenges balancing installation crews with sales reps, right? Like, which one do you want to optimize? Which one don't you want to optimize? Like, those are all good— those are all good questions, but What I would say is I'm in particular thinking about home service people, uh, where I know, like Jameson, I don't, do you know Jameson? He has a deck company. But my old garage business, like all we needed to do on social media was before and afters. That's it. Like all we need to do is before and afters. And if I said, yo, junior crew guy, one of your responsibilities is to walk around and take 25 freaking pictures. Before we start, or hey sales rep, you take befores. And then yo, when you're done, as part of the closeout process, not only do you need to get a signature and get paid, you need to take 25 after pictures. Not one crap, just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, walk around, talk through verbally everything you're, you're doing with your hand. And I'm like, now all I do is kick that over to an overseas editor and I can finally start pumping before and afters, which I know rip on Instagram Shorts if they're local optimized.

Must.

It doesn't need to be this big act. It could literally just be the same format every day. Every day. Okay. So what I would say is the content one is very obvious to me. I also— or questions on that one or elaborations?

No, but your audio's like crackling a little bit. Do you have like a loose cable or something?

Uh, I don't— I'm not even using a mic. I'm just on my laptop. Fix it in post.

Fix it in post. Yeah, sure.

All right, cool. Um, So the second one that I think is really interesting— so by the way, you can do things like send it to a Slack channel directly.

Hmm. Right.

So when you take a picture, it automatically goes in the raw content channel or it goes into a drop. Like you could, again, with the same small tweak of that personal workflow that I just mentioned, you can pump it into a shared workspace where your editors work out of. You could pump it into your assistant's inbox. You could pump it into your— right? So with just mild modifications of those personal workflows, very, very straightforward to have it into the hands of your video editor who's going to be able to then— like, next Crane event, you should be pumping these to somebody offsite so that you're live posting and streaming while you're still at the happy hour or the, the yacht party. And you're just like now pumping it onto Facebook and you're pumping it, creating all this energy. And you give a set to an attend— you give a set to Mark, you take a set, and Wolf takes a set, and all of them are funneling in. And you've got this whole like UGC event vibe going. Next time you go to a conference, you should 100% be wearing these and sending them to Monica to put on your personal socials and reels. Hey, at the LeadSimple booth, come on by. And you're just pumping them into a Slack channel. Channel and she's now kicking up. So yeah, so that's live events. I think all that stuff's very straightforward. So thoughts or elaborations on that one?

Yeah, I, I love it all. I think with the content strategy in particular, you need to start with the end product that you're trying to— like, what is the end goal? Yeah, because, you know, it reminds me of like when, you know, iPhones first came out with video. It's like, oh, you should be video everywhere. And, you know, there was like vloggers. And so it's not like video and pictures is a new thing. This just lowers the barrier extremely and makes it way more convenient. Correct. And lets you have like natural conversations with people without like holding your phone in their face and stuff.

Correct.

So there's a lot of advantages, and you just gotta like think through, because like what you don't want to have happen is like you make this investment in these glasses, you go to the conference, you record all this video, and like nothing happens with it. So you have to think really hard about like, who's going to be doing this? Are they working those hours? What channels are they getting posted on? What is the format? Are they just gonna like dump an hour-long video straight to YouTube without even like thinking about like, would that actually be useful? So it's complicated, I think.

I think much, much from my experience, much like many other things that we've talked about, like quantity has a quality of its own.

Mm-hmm.

And what I mean by that is like step one is capture, meaning you want a really good, you know, crane yacht party highlight video. You record 3 hours of footage for a 4-minute highlight reel.

Yeah.

But you're not gonna do that if Peter's whole event is ruined by him going late. Wait, but if you're able to just flick it on, flick it off, flick it on, flick it off, flick it on, and 3 different people doing it and it's relatively seamless, now your editor has a ton to work with. Or a ton of maintenance photos. So to me, I think what lowering the transaction cost of capture does is it just gives you more, more raw with which you can then craft stories or craft, like, you know, if you look at Jack—

Yeah, but I think my point is like, that's the easy part. The hard part is you now have all this raw stuff. Who is going to do what with it? And when. That's the part that I kind of get tripped up on.

For me, I find the hard part is the capture.

Hmm.

I, I find that that's the hard part.

Interesting.

Actually getting volume capture that's good enough quality, that's, you know, shot in the right perspective and stuff like that. Because I'm, I'm at the event, I'm not thinking about— yeah. So, so then the, the last one that I'll mention here that I think this naturally leads itself to, and I've seen the early versions of this, is I think there are some absolutely incredible things you could do if you had— let's say you had a constraint, Peter, which was you have one senior plumber in your maintenance department at RL, and you had 4 junior plumbers, and your constraint is that master plumber. I think you could do some really incredible things with this to enable your master plumber to help your junior plumbers in that they could be taking— your master plumber could be sitting in your office and he's getting images and voice notes in a Slack channel from 5 junior plumbers. And it's an image of the back of the water heater that has a configuration that the junior plumber's never worked before., and your master plumber's going, oh, no, no, no, that's just countersunk. You need to go to Home Depot and get this part, or come back to the warehouse, we'll pull it for you, or whatever. And I think there's all sorts— you could have that go to an AI agent that looks up the instruction manual of the water heater and texts it back to the crew member saying, oh, that's a standard water heater that needs a replacement gasket.. And so I think there's some really interesting, like, subject matter expertise lens that having access to technology seamlessly really unlocks.

Yeah, there's some interesting stuff there for sure. The hands-free nature of it, I think, is a big unlock, and the ease of which you can start and stop the video recording and have it automatically dump to a channel somewhere that, you know, the tech can— the senior tech can look at.

Monitor by your senior checks, or, you know, like, I— we had our movers. We— I've moved a couple times in the last year or two. They're— the movers were constantly calling their— it was what, quality control thing? I know it was. They were constantly calling their headquarters and like providing verbal reports of the status of the move and is the customer happy and all of these different kind of like status checks, whereas it could easily be done with a, hey, here's where we're at, it looks like we got about 20 We need some more materials. And that can be a part of your, like, I'm on site all day and it's not a black box anymore process to create. Yeah, I think there's some really good stuff you could do with that. I, if I was still running a home improvement business, I would be deploying these. I would deploy one set of these in every single crew. Yeah, not for content, but for, hey, every 3 hours you're expected to take images, you're expected to provide a verbal update as to the status of the installation with the expected completion time. And it's a wonderful way, wonderful way to maintain accountability so that you have checkpoints and all that kind of stuff. So I think that's also really exciting.

Yeah, there's— it also, also makes me think of like, we do a lot of these, um, move-in and move-out inspections where we need to like check to see if the property is ready for the tenant to move in. And then when the tenant moves out, we have to walk the property again to check for damages, cleaning and all that. And, you know, Meta Glasses is probably perfect for that rather than trying to hold a phone. And yeah, it's like, yeah, just walk into every room, look around, walk to the next room. Uh, we also end up with a lot of questions from property owners about like, you know, why did this job take this long? You know, this should have been a really easy job. And now I can envision a future where every tech is just wearing these and recording every job, and you just send the video and be like, here's the video of the guy. Yeah, like a body cam.

Yeah, that's where I think it's going.

Yeah, here's why it took so long. You can watch the 3-hour video if you want. Like, it's not like the guy sat down and took an hour-long smoke break in the middle. Like, here's him troubleshooting your issue for 3 hours. Have fun watching that.

Now what's cool, what's cool is we've already built an agent like this. We built a couple like this where you can start to train an agent, for example, that captures it and then annotate— it looks at every 20 seconds, grabs a screenshot whenever there's a major change in the image, and then annotates it with like a proprietary, uh, proprietary dataset. Meaning it says, this is our tech changing out your water filter, and then it automatically creates a maintenance visit report that has annotation, and it goes to your owner investor pod lead that says site visit report. And literally all the tech did was tap the button or hit whatever, and it annotates it with arrows with an estimated time to complete that task. And it all then gets filed to AppFolio under that address. And a draft email is put in your pod lead's outbox that says site visit summary for your turnover.

Yep.

And all of that can be done, and the trigger is a very low-friction piece of technology that's like a wearable. I think that that's, that's gonna proliferate like stinking crazy. Like crazy. I think you're right, you know. So yeah, that's, that's where I get excited about it, is, is, is lowering the barrier to layer in technology so that I can do things like provide a better service, communicate more, let my crew speak in Spanish, but the report gets written in English. Like, there's a lot of really cool things that intelligent layering of tech can do to shrink the skill level required to have a really high-level offering.

Yeah, well, I'll bring these along to my next conference and experiment with it. I'm curious about sort of the social implications of that blinking light. I'm sure you could like put a piece of tape over it or whatever, but yeah. Meta, of course, wants people to know when you're recording for obvious reasons, uh, but at a conference I could see that being kind of distracting. So I don't know. Well, I'm sure, yeah, there's, there's a lot you can do there. Um, it could be fun to play with and just see like what the real practical day-to-day use case is like.

I'm using it like crazy. I used it at our live event. I actually bought them for Sagan's last live event and we ended up using a ton of this stuff.

I got.

It was great.

Yeah, and you had great footage. I saw the sizzle reel.

Yeah, super— yeah, correct. Super, super, super easy, super cool, was not distracting, you know, that kind of— so cool. You want to wind it up here? You want to jump into the second one? What do you think?

Let's wind it up here. I want to save that other topic. I think there's a lot there and probably most of an episode will be filled with that.

So, okay, final thoughts, anything you got on the horizon? What are you thinking about these days? Anything online, offline, technology stuff that's exciting you these days? Any of that kind of stuff? Tools you're loving?

Let me, uh, this is kind of just kind of a fun side thing, but when you picture a year in your head, like visualize a year, one year with the seasons and the months, what does it look like for you in your head?

Not something with July on the top like you just posted on. If that's a leading question, that is not how I picture a year. Not as a bar chart.

So I want to hear your answer though, and then I'll say what mine is.

Okay. I think of it as calendar pages, basically like Google Calendar with all 31 days or what and then basically like a bunch of sheets that get ripped off. That's how I think about it.

Okay, so when I visualize a year, it's a circle, like a, you know, picture like a vert— like a circle on a vertical circle. I don't know if that makes sense. Um, the top of the circle is summer and the bottom of the circle is winter, and it moves counterclockwise. So the very bottom is like January and February, March, April, May, June, July is the top, and then all the way back down the other side But for some reason it goes counterclockwise and that's how I've always thought of one year. And so like summer break is like the top, you know, one-third of the circle. And like for some reason, like summer's on top cuz it's hot, heat rises. I don't know, maybe that's why. Uh, and I have no idea where the counterclockwise thing comes, things come from. But I, for years and years and years, I've talked to people about this and I always had a hard time explaining and I was finally able to use AI to make a visual. Of what it looks like, which is what you're talking about. I posted on LinkedIn and Facebook, and I posted this on Facebook yesterday, and there's like 30 comments on it. It's really interesting to read how everyone visualizes a year because it's all different. Like, some people agreed with me, but most people disagreed, and they're like, no, for me it looks like that, but it's clockwise. And then other people are like, for me it looks like that, but summer and winter are—

I can't imagine counter— I think that's like probably like a symptom of like psychosis or something.

Probably. A lot of people said it's a line, like a straight line kind of going away from them, and you sort of move forward on the line and then come back at the beginning of the year.

Closer to me for sure, not a circle. Um, okay, cool. I will wind it up with a quote that I like that ties into some of this. Uh, it actually teases our next episode, which we'll record next week. Men of men of lofty genius sometimes accomplish the most when they work the least, for their minds are occupied with their ideas and the perfection of their conceptions, to which they afterwards give form.

Sounds like that was written by a guy whose wife just asked him to like go pick up the laundry or something. Men of lofty genius require leaders.

Honey, I'm a lofty genius. Yeah, order. Yeah, we're doing takeout tonight.

Yeah, but yeah, that's good.

All right, man, good upset. Talk soon.