Hangovers and Getting Canceled
28 Feb 2024 · 34 min
Heather Bartos and her mother Stephanie discuss hangovers, electrolytes, and magnesium supplements, plus Alabama's recent IVF ruling. They mix medical advice with personal stories about handling social media criticism and everyday health challenges.
Actually, you know what we need to do is go out drink. You need to go out drinking and then let's check your electrolyte levels the next day and see if they are actually off or not. You need to drink a lot.
Hi, everybody and welcome to the podcast. This is Generations md. My name is Stephanie and I'm joined.
Here by my colleague, Dr. Sarah Davis.
Who is also my mother.
Why do you say it like that? Mother?
Because it's like colleague and mother.
It's a lot.
It's a lot of time together.
It is. Which is the greatest. Yeah.
But not for long.
Not for long because you'll be leaving me. But we'll still have to do the pod remotely or I'll just have to go to Houston every week. Wouldn't it be great?
We'll have to. That's for a later discussion. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Okay.
So how are you doing?
I'm doing great.
Good, good. I probably. I feel the best mentally, I think that I've ever felt in my life.
Just the relief of matching and knowing where you're going and being able to make the plan.
Yeah.
You got a life plan now?
I do have a life plan now and it feels good.
That's nice. So you're sleeping well?
I'm sleeping great. I'm just. Just relaxing, trying to enjoy life a little bit.
Oh, as you should. As you should. That's good.
Besides the hate that I received.
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have to address the hate, which, by the way, was only on the Tick Tocks.
Yeah. Also since we're talking about TikTok plug for the Tick Tock right now. Check out Generations MD on TikTok. I'm doing a MMI series right now where I'm talking about different scenarios and walking through them and showing you my method.
I think it's pretty good. So check it out. It seems very. Seems very helpful and methodical and it's not like, oh yeah, just. You get the situation. You just wing it. There's a whole kind of science to it.
Yeah. And I did a lot of research on, through a lot of different websites to figure out exactly the best method. There's a lot of information out there, so I really feel like I've concised it down.
Concised it. How about Consolidated? Consolidated. They didn't it. Okay.
Don't take that as my.
You posted some TikToks and you got some hate.
I've been cancelled, unfortunately.
Well, I don't think you've quite Been cancelled. It wasn't that bad, but I'm gonna.
Address my cancellation today.
Okay. Is this gonna be one of those apology videos?
Yeah, pretty much. No. Okay, listen. I mean, I might cut this, but I'm just gonna say it. So I posted a video pretty much saying in the podcast last week, just saying how I got into med school.
School.
And, you know, if you went back and listened to the podcast, I just said, my journey and my story and my success story. And that's what I said I was going to share. Then people commented and were like, that's not fair for you to talk about that from a place of privilege. You don't understand your privilege. Like, sit down and shut up. Pretty much.
Check yourself, man.
Check yourself. Check your tone. And I just want to say, first of all, I can empathize with that frustration. Right? Like, it's. I don't understand, but I can see how it could be hard to see a person that comes from privilege talk about their success. Right? Like, that's frustrating.
Yeah.
But, like, if you listen to the podcast and heard my story, I never was. Like, my life was so hard, and I overcame so much to be able to get to the point that I'm in. Like, that's. That's not my story. Like, I can completely acknowledge my privilege and acknowledge that I was able to take advantage of that privilege to be able to be successful. And, like, if that's not helpful to you, then don't listen. Like, don't. Don't watch the videos. Don't listen to the podcast. Like, there is plenty of space and resources for you to talk about how difficult it is and how see stories of people trying to get in and it not working out and how, like, it's not worth it and, like, have tried and tried but could never do it. And, like, that's not the purpose of this page. And, like, that's not the purpose of this podcast. Like, I'm not trying to contribute to that toxic loop. I feel like I'm kind of done talking about medical school admissions. Like, I think so many people are just frustrated at the process. And I feel like I kind of became a scapegoat for people just, like, yell at me about their frustrations, which, like, again, I can totally empathize with. Like, I'm sorry. Like, it sucks. Like, this process is sucks. And, like, I can empathize with you, but, like, I'm. I'm trying to show you that there's light at the end of the tunnel. Like, that is the point.
The purpose was to be. To show optimism and to say, look, you know, I did it. You can, too. Obviously, everybody has different challenges, but the purpose was not to just say, oh, yeah, you know, just give up. You know, it's never going to work out. The purpose is say, it does work out. And this is. This was my journey, and I did find success doing this. It's a bummer that people still want to take something away from that. Yeah.
And I'm not trying to be like. Like, I can't understand how it is, like, from a place that is not my position. Like, I can't understand that. And I never tried to claim that I wasn't in the position that I'm in.
Well, and I will say on. You know, I know you hate it when I talk about these Facebook groups that I'm on, but I saw something similar on Facebook, and this, to me was like, 10 times worse than you getting hate. But this woman had posted that her daughter got accepted to medical school. And this page is supposed to be. And, you know, people generally post when their kid gets in and everybody's excited, and you just say, congratulations. And that's really. That's all you need to say. But in this particular case, people. I mean, this just makes me sick to even say. People noted the color of her skin from her profile picture, this mom, and they proceeded to comment that the reason that her daughter got into medical school was because she was underrepresented in medicine, what they call a urm. And that that's the reason that her daughter got accepted was because, you know, that her stats didn't have to be as good or something like that. And it was just awful. They. They took the post down. I think eventually, I mean, lots of people came to her support and said, you know, congratulations. That's so wonderful. And I'm sorry that you. That, you know, people are giving you hate. But, you know, a lot of people came in to say, oh, well, you. They said the same thing. You need to check yourself. Because they didn't even know what her daughter's stats. They didn't know anything about her daughter's journey, and they wanted to take something away. And saying that people that are urms have preference for getting into medical school. And I just, like, it almost just made me cry to think, like, here's this mom who's celebrating her daughter and so proud of her, and people want to knock her down, you know, for. I mean, just complete racism. So, yeah, anyway, I just don't understand.
The purpose of being. Being, like, trying to take down somebody's success. Like, again, I understand that, like, this process is frustrating and I can, like, empathize with you, but just commenting on people's page about how, like, you don't understand and, like, check yourself and sit down and, like, all of this stuff, I'm just like, again, that is not the purpose. And again, like, posting a congratulations thing, the purpose was to, like, share success and, like, somebody coming and being like.
Basically, that you don't deserve, that you got this and that somebody else especially, I guess it's that person is more deserving and they didn't. Or they're afraid that sometimes they haven't even applied yet, but they think that they're not gonna have success. But the only reason that they're not gonna have success is not for anything related to them. It's only because you had other advantages that they didn't have. And anyway, I just. I did. I commented on this thread and I just said, you know, I'm sorry you're going through this and, oh, my gosh, this whole process is toxic enough. Please just be kind to one another. That's just. It's not helpful to anybody to have that kind of attitude. So, anyway, I'm sorry that that happened to you. Babe, girl, it's okay.
I got through it.
I don't know, somehow, for some reason, some people just feel better by tearing other people down or they think that they do.
Yeah. It's just frustrating when people are like, you don't understand your privilege. A white woman complaining. When did I complain? Like, when did I say, when did I complain? And when did I try to say that I wasn't privileged? Those are things that never happen. So I don't know, people watching 10 seconds of a video and then leaving a comment on it.
Yeah, they know everything about you from that 10 seconds especially. Okay, so what else do we have to discuss?
You want to talk about magnesium?
Yeah. So we had a listener question. This question comes from Jennifer from California, and it was, should I be taking magnesium?
Wait, can I tell you what I know about magnesium from just like, a list?
Just like a. Yes, tell me what the common folk know about magnesium.
The common folk on TikTok. What I've seen is I've seen a lot of stuff.
So wait, this is where you're getting your information? Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, no, that's where most people get their information is TikTok. Is that, like, taking magnesium is really helpful for anxiety and, like, people who have low magnesium levels, potentially that is related to, like, high anxiety and Stress. And by, like, supplementing that, then it helps them.
Okay, what else do you know about magnesium there on TikTok?
There's these things called sleepy girl mocktails. And essentially, it's like, people will put juice and, like, water and fruit and mix it together and put, like, magnesium droplets in it and, like, have it before they go to bed to try to help us sleep.
That's valid. There is some information talking about magnesium helping with anxiety and helping with sleep. There is some information that magnesium helps relax a little bit, helps a little bit with anxiety, and which might help put you to sleep. Now, it doesn't necessarily. It's not like taking a melatonin or another sleep aid. You don't have to take it, like, right before bed or anything. And it's not the type of thing where you're just like, okay, I'm all amped up. I'm just gonna take a little bit of magnesium and boom, I'm gonna just go to sleep. It doesn't really work like that. I would say that this has been kind of a topic, like, the last few years, there's been more discussion about it. I haven't. I was just doing a literature search. I haven't seen any, like, really big randomized control trials that say, you know, for sure that this is really, really helpful. But there's been smaller studies that show that it does seem to be somewhat helpful, and that. And then, of course, what like, they always say in a smaller study, we need to do larger studies now. But. And what we don't know with those studies is, are the people who are helped by it. Is that because they're actually deficient in magnesium, or is it just that maybe it helps everybody? I kind of think, like, it. I don't know. It's hard to say. There's probably. It probably helps those people who maybe are a little bit more deficient in magnesium, rather than just it helping everybody across the board. That's usually how that kind of works with some of those micronutrients or minerals.
Why would one person be deficient in magnesium?
Well, that's an excellent question. There's multiple reasons. You can get magnesium from a lot of different things in your diet. Things like. Like legumes, green leafy vegetables, some other.
What's a legume?
Just like a peanut. Peanut is a legume. Some nuts. A peanut isn't a nut. It's a legume. Oh, okay. Anyway, I don't know that I've ever really said the word legume in my eyes. I'm not Saying that I'll have some.
Ice cream with a legume. Legume on top.
Yeah. So I've just got a really craving for a legume anyway. But so some people get a lot of those different things in their diets, and some people don't for whatever reason. And then sometimes people have some health conditions that will make them more deficient. Like if you have Crohn's disease, you can't absorb magnesium as well, and so you could get deficient from that. Some certain medications can lead to magnesium magnesium deficiency, particularly people who have high blood pressure. And you take a diuretic that can deplete your magnesium. Oh, the other. The other category of people that get really magnesium deficient are alcoholics, because they don't generally eat a good diet. They drink a lot of alcohol, which then you lose a lot of nutrition with, you know, it's a diuretic. So anyway, alcoholics, when you get to the point where actually you draw your blood and your magnesium level is low, that means the amount of magnesium in your tissues has really decreased quite a bit. So, for example, we used to get people that would come into the emergency room, they're in the hospital, we check their magnesium level, and it's like 1.3. It's supposed to be about 2.0. We'd give them some IV magnesium. You check it the next day, and you're like, oh, yay, it's back to normal. Bye bye, go home. Well, what I learned as an intern was that if you had checked it again the next day, it went back down to 1.3. Because by the time it's actually low in your serum, you've depleted so much that you really need to take that magnesium for a good at least four to six weeks. You need to supplement it to get it back up to those levels.
Why would it be down and then, like, why did you check it? What's the purpose of checking your magnesium?
Well, a lot of the reasons that we would check it. I mean, if your magnesium level is really low, it can cause chronic cardiac arrhythmias and a lot of really serious health problems. So particularly when people are coming in to the emergency room, like somebody who is having alcohol withdrawal, things like that, we want to make sure that their magnesium level isn't really off. So that's the reason we would check in in the hospital. But the second reason is if somebody's potassium level is low and their magnesium level is low, if you give them just potassium supplementation without supplementing the magnesium, it's very Hard to get their potassium up to a normal level. So if somebody has low potassium, you need to supplement that. But then check their magnesium level, and if that's low, supplement that as well in order to get their potassium level up to what that it should be.
Because magnesium helps transport potassium or what?
I don't remember all the basic science stuff.
What's the purpose of magnesium, though? Basic purpose?
Oh, it does all kinds of stuff.
Like what? Like how does that help with the potassium.
Okay, I can't remember the exact mechanism, and you better cut this part out.
I'm leaving it all in.
Sometimes you just have to accept that there are facts, okay?
That's how misinformation is spread.
Okay. Actually, why don't you look up what the relationship is between magnesium and potassium and report back to me with a short talk.
I just Google, I don't know, depolarize something.
See, I told you it's complicated. We're not going into detail about that. Let's just say potassium and magnesium have a relationship. Okay? They're dated. Yes. And they like to go together. Look, I'm sure at some point I did know all that stuff, but.
Okay, but what did you find about it relating to, like, anxiety and drowsiness.
And stuff so that. I mean, I could not find any mechanisms about. I don't know that anybody knows exactly what those mechanisms are, the way that it. The way that it does that. But it seems to. But like I said, this has really just been in the last few years that I've been seeing this about this. The stuff about anxiety and sleep and that type of stuff. And I think that more, bigger studies will probably show more information.
Okay, well, magnesium and potassium segue into electrolytes.
Electrolytes. Okay, Hot topic, right?
Now explain the mechanism of electrolytes. Somebody asked me this and I didn't understand, like, okay, I go. I go for a run and I sweat a bunch of. And now I need to drink a gatorade to be able to replenish my electrolytes. What's happening?
Well, okay, that I do know. So you know. So you run and you have sweat. Now your sweat is actually hypotonic. There is more water than there is sodium in your sweat. It's not like you're sweating exactly the. Exactly what it is in your plasma, but still you're losing salt in your sweat. Okay? So if you just drink free water that doesn't have any electrolytes in it, there's no sodium in it. And if you keep drinking a bunch of free Water again. If you go out for a 20 minute walk, you're fine. You don't. You can drink some water and you're gonna be able to be just fine. But if you are going for like a long run, especially when it's hot outside and you're really sweating a lot, you drink some water. Well, what happens. Yeah. And well, what happens is if you do too much of that, you can become hyponatremic so that you have more water in your body than you have sodium as far as in your bloodstream. And if you get really hyponatremic, that can cause seizures and a lot of different problems.
What about I go out and I drink a bunch and then I'm hungover and I drink like a liquid iv Something that gives me like, is an elect. I drink an electrolyte drink or I, I'm craving salty stuff. Like, why am I losing salt when I'm. And like, why do I feel like I need to replenish that? My body's telling me something. Like, clearly I like, you know, if I'm craving salt, like there's a reason.
For that that's kind of different than the sweating part. And I don't know. Exactly. You know, I don't know. Actually, you know what we need to do is go out drink. You need to go out drinking and then let's check your electrolyte levels the next day and see if they are actually off or not.
Okay, well, we need to compare it.
Yeah, do before and after drinking.
Okay. I'm going out on Wednesday. I'm going to a concert.
Well, how much are you gonna drink? You need to drink a lot. I shouldn't plan on drinking that much. I'm coming to work the next day. Well, I don't know. The research is more important.
We'll report back.
But here's. And I'm gonna venture a theory. I don't think your sodium levels are gonna be drastically different after you go out drinking. I don't, I don't. Unless you are. The next morning you wake up and you're just drinking a bunch of free water. That would cause your sodium levels to go down. But you know, the. A hangover is a very complex.
Well now there's this like these things. I want to try it actually. I want to try to see if it works. They're called like zbiotics. They're kind of expensive. But it was scam. Well, I mean, I've read the studies. Like it was like, it's. It's supposed to like it's some sort of enzyme that breaks down like byproducts that. That causes a hangover.
Oh, okay. Sorry, I spoke too soon. I didn't know what you were talking about, but I just labeled it as a scam. Well, that's entirely possible because, I mean, alcohol does have a lot of toxins. I mean, all these byproducts of alcohol are toxins. And if you can break those down. Yeah. Then you're gonna feel.
Yeah, you have to drink it before you start drinking.
Okay, So, I mean, that might be helpful. You know, a better plan is to not drink. You just told me to. That was for science. But that's different from just, you know, from electrolytes, just your sodium and potassium. I mean, certainly it's possible that you could lose some sodium and potassium if you are drinking a lot like I was talking about. You know, alcohol is a diuretic. So when you're taking any kind of diuretic, you're going to pee out some of that sodium and potassium. And so then the next day, maybe you're a little bit. You know, you're dehydrated for sure, and so you need to hydrate, but you probably need a little bit of those electrolytes as well. I mean, again, alcohol, it's a poison, man. It's. It does a lot of. It has a lot of harmful effects.
So, doc, you've never had. You don't drink?
I didn't say that, but I can tell when I've had some drinks. My body battery is very, very affected on my watch. So, you know, I can tell it affects my sleep anyway. But, yeah, I mean, and one of the other ways that alcohol affects you is that, you know, you have this alcohol, you have this big effect. It wears off. And your body is now having some withdrawal of that alcohol, even if you're not an alcoholic. Just that there is some, you know, and that's what happens with addictive substances. You have some withdrawal, and that's why people do have the hair of the dog. You know, they have a Bloody Mary the next morning. And that does help with those withdrawal symptoms. And that's why people feel a little bit better after doing that. That is not a plan that I advocate. That's. I mean, you know, that's what alcoholics do, right? They get up in the morning, they've got the shakes, and they have a drink. And that does help with those. You know, that helps them with that hangover and those feelings of withdrawal. But, you know, part of a hangover is kind of a Good thing it reminds you that. Why you don't want to drink too much. Yeah. Have you ever said, I'm never drinking again? Yes. Yes. Those words have been uttered by many people many times.
Why do hangovers get worse over time?
That's a really good question. I don't know the answer to that, but that is definitely a fact.
I feel like it's even gotten worse in my lifetime.
Oh, like, two or three years ago, you used to be able to drink a whole lot.
The first time I ever drank, I woke up feeling great. I was ready for, like, anything.
When was this?
We don't have to be specific, but.
Now did it take place?
You don't have to be specific, but nowadays it's. I'm down. Yeah.
You know, that's what happens is as you get older, people are just like, oh, man, I just. I can't do that anymore. Didn't we have something else we were going to talk about?
Yeah, The Alabama. Okay. The Alabama ruling that embryos are children. Children and which is affecting in vitro, an ability to be able to do in vitro fertilization in the state of Alabama. This is what the New York Times reported on. What I have read and listened to is that it was in a clinic and somebody walked into this freezer and took these embryos and then dropped them on the ground.
Yeah.
Which, like, who? I don't know who did that and, like, why and who stuck their hand into a negative 325 degrees Fahrenheit, like, freezer and, like, drop. I don't know exactly. No one really knows the details, but essentially somebody dropped these embryos, and then they went to the Alabama Supreme Court and they ruled that those embryos were children and, like, they deserved to be protected, like, children. So essentially, like, the IVF clinic should have had the same protections as, like.
A freezer full of kids.
Yes. And, like, a daycare and those sort of stuff. Like, if some. If a kid gets hurt in a daycare, then, like, the daycare is responsible for that kid. And there's a lot of regulations around that. And essentially they're saying that, like, it should be the same for. For these clinics, but, like, so much liability goes into that. I mean, there's accidents happen all the time in transport. And then just, like, when you're, like, doing these. Even when you're, like, doing these fertilizations, like, eggs can get stuck on test tubes, and, like, there's lots of room for human error. Yeah, that's just a part of it, but yeah. So they ruled that Essentially, the embryos are children. So now all IVF has been stopped in Alabama. So women that have been going through treatments can't continue. The Daily had a story about. And go listen to this, the Daily's episode on it, because it's like, it's really good. It essentially talks to this woman who has. Preparing for IVF treatment. She, like, has endometriosis or something that she can't carry a baby. So she, like, went through egg retrieval, two rounds of egg retrieval. And on Friday, last Friday was supposed to. They had their embryos frozen and everything was preparing to, like, take that embryo and have it put in her surrogate.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. So it was all scheduled to have that happen. Then Tuesday, out of the blue, this happened and they had to stop all of it. So she is, like, been trying to have a baby, trying to have a baby, and now she can't have this baby. And like, now these embryos, she's like, we're trying to figure out a way to do it. Like, we want to be able to take. The only way I could do it is, like, to have this embryo transferred to another state. But no, sort of. No company is transferring these embryos.
Nobody wants that responsibility.
No one wants the liability responsibility. So. And like, for people who don't. I was talking to someone about this, and, like, people don't understand. Not only is it so much money, like, each egg retrieval can cost up to like $30,000. So she did it twice. Because a lot of times you don't get enough eggs at first, so you have to do it again. So that's like $60,000 plus a surrogate is another, like, $50,000. So, I mean, it's like over a hundred thousand dollars to do this. And the only way that you could. That she could potentially do it is go do these egg retrievals out of state again, make new embryos, which takes years, and then have to go through the surrogacy another nine months. And, like, not only is it a lot of money, but to do these egg retrievals and to do ivf, like, you're giving yourself shots every day for weeks, and you're pumping your body with hormones and, like, it's.
It's hard.
People don't understand, like, oh, yeah, like, did ivf.
No.
Like, egg retrieval is a big deal.
Yeah. Yeah. And painful. And just. Not to mention the emotional roller coaster and all of it, it's just. And you know, as bad as that is for this person, I mean, but all of these other people in an entire state are not going to have access to this treatment. I mean, a treatment that we've been doing for a long time and has been very successful. And I mean, good lord, how many friends do you have that was. That were born through ivf? Like a lot of people. And you know, and I can just imagine those doctors that have built up this successful practice there and have worked really hard and are now just going to have to close up shop and move out of state.
And like, it's so scary too because like, I mean, like fertility issues and stuff like that is a huge fear of mine and of so many women. And the only thing that brings me comfort is the idea that there's so much like advancement in this field and there's so much to be able to like, have your own children. But now this is just getting torn away.
I know it's.
And like the whole thing of the. Okay. Like the pro life movement is to create life and now they're making it so people can't have kids. Yep.
On a lighter note, I did see somebody see this picture of somebody that had a bunch of cartons of eggs in their car and they said, gonna go through the carpool lane in Alabama. Like just all these things. Like, you know, a seed, you know, is not a tree. Also, like, you know, you don't put children in freezers. And you know, there's so many things of embryos are not children. I watched this interaction with you and a salesperson last week that came into our office. This is kind of. So this isn't a medical thing, but this is a generations thing. See, so it ties in. It's generations. And I don't know who needs to hear this if you are in sales, but if you are in sales and you are trying to, you know, get the attention of the person that you're talking to and sell them something. Don't try to flirt with and flatter her 21 year old daughter.
Yeah, no, super weird.
It's super weird and creepy. And like now I will say that my generation, I think that we're still a bit conditioned to be kind of polite when somebody does that. We kind of do the little, like little half smile and kind of do a little laugh and just try to redirect. But at least you. And I don't know if you are representative of your whole generation. But I was watching this interaction and you were having none of it. Like, is it a generational thing or is it just. Is it just me being snarky? I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.
I'm just, I don't really. I don't give too much thought into it. Like, yeah, that's kind of just like I'm like I'm doing something. Like, I was, I was, I was busy. Like, it's like, don't like, stop trying to reel me into this conversation.
Yeah. And I'm not sure why he was trying to do that. Just to back up, this was just somebody who was coming into the office trying to tell me about his home health care services that he offers, which, you know, were plenty good. I wanted to hear what he had to say about it, but he kept trying to, like, kind of engage Stephanie in that creepy way that middle aged men do where they try to say like, he didn't say this, but it's that whole thing of where they say like, hey, smile. Or they try to like, make some sort of dynamic dumb joke and kind of bring you into the conversation in some way, or like, say your name and kind of like try to flatter you in some way, saying things like, oh, well, you know, if you're an athlete, like Stephanie, Stephanie's a college athlete. Right, Stephanie?
And I was like, what? I was like, yep, that's all I said.
Well, no, you actually kind of like said, oh, yeah, I'm a college basketball player. And you kind of just came at him with this just, just total sarcasm, which had he had a clue, he would have been like, oh, okay, this is not working.
Yeah. The reaction he wanted is just like, for me to laugh and be like, aha, you're ridiculous. I was like, yeah, I'm a college basketball player.
Yeah, it's. Anyway, I just, I thought the. I'd be curious if that's. If my observation really is reflective of generations or again, or if that's just you. But I just feel like, you know, I mean, always when I was young, like when I was your age, that used to happen to me all the time. I'm just minding my own business or I'm working and somebody be like, hey, smile. And it used to make me so mad. Like, it used to happen when I was a kid and people did not understand why that made me mad. And now there's a whole discussion about that and you're all like, yeah, no, we don't need to smile to make some. You know, that's not. My job is to make you happy. I'm just living my life.
Yeah. And what, it's. Because I'm a woman, I have to like, sit there and Smile and be happy and polite.
Be happy and polite, even though you know you're trying to sell me something, dude. Like, it's like, I'm the client. Read the room.
Yeah, no, I just. I am tired of being polite to men. Like, I'm over it. Like, it's not beneficial in any way. Especially, like, in an interaction like that. Like. Yeah, exactly. You're trying to get something from me. I'm not trying to get anything from you. It's different from just, like, being kind to people in general. But if you're doing something that's making me uncomfortable, then, like, yeah, I'm not. I don't put up with that.
It's not my job to play along.
Yeah, it's not my job.
Yeah. But I just thought that was interesting that, you know, the person who used to work here, who was so nice, but who's, you know, almost 20 years older than me, like, would have laughed long and totally played along. Then he would have walked out the door, and she would have rolled her eyes and said, what a jerk. You know, like, she would have just been annoyed with him, but she never in a million years would have shown it. I do, like, one notch down from that, where I'm like, I kind of just redirect, but I try to do it politely, and then you are just openly sarcastic and, you know. But, I mean, I thought it was good. You weren't, like, hateful.
I didn't go afar. I wasn't like, you shouldn't say that. Like, stop doing that. Like, I didn't do that. I mean, I don't know. Honestly, like, I didn't even think about it. Like, I was like, this is my normal reaction in these sort of situations.
I know. And I guess I hadn't really observed that, so I thought it was just interesting observing it. All right, well, anyway, that was just my. My observation for this week. Okay.
Observation of the week.
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