HOW TO GET INTO YOUR DREAM MEDICAL SCHOOL

I'm just a girl who got into med school. Hi, everybody, and welcome to the podcast. My name is Stephanie, and I matched my number one medical school.

Let's just start with that.

This is Generations md. Did I already say that?

No.

Oh, this is Generations MD. My name is Stephanie. This is.

Is your colleague, Dr. Sarah Davis, who is also your mother.

Yes.

Apparently, after the acceptance, you have forgotten how to speak.

I forgot how to speak. I've forgotten how to do the podcast. I'm just senioritis mode now.

Wait, you're still working here?

Yes.

You still got a job to do. You're still getting paid.

True, true, true, true, true. I'm getting paid by the hour. Okay, so essentially, for the Texas match on that Friday, I just refreshed my browser, and then it popped up on where I was gonna match, and I'll insert it here.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God, oh, my God. I knew it. I knew it.

And yeah, so I did it. I put McGovern as my number one, and I matched to McGovern. And I am so happy.

And that is what you wanted. And so now you are done. You know, that's where you're going. No wait list. No. No more drama worrying about this or that. That's where you're going, and we just get to move forward.

It feels really good.

Have you been sleeping better?

Yeah. Sleeping so much better. That week leading up to Match, it was just so much drama. It's like, okay, if I match here, then this is gonna happen. And, like, what if I'm waitlisted for some of them? But honestly, it feels great. And honestly, screw everybody that told me I couldn't do it.

Oh, wow. Who told you you couldn't do it?

I guess no one, specifically.

Oh, wow. This is gonna be one of those. One of those kind of like, videos.

Okay, no, no, no, no, not actually. But like, I. There is just this rhetoric in pre med culture about how you are constantly not good enough and you need to. To you're not going to get into med school, and it's so hard, and you don't even understand how hard it is, and you're not capable of doing it. Like, we had med schools come and talk to us in undergrad, and they essentially were saying that you'd be lucky to get into our institution. You'd be lucky. It's so hard. Like, you guys don't understand how hard it was and just really push that on all of us. And it's so frustrating because, like, I was perfectly capable of doing it, and I Did do it so well.

It's just such a terrible message to send out that, like, basically you're talking to a whole group of people and saying, like, none of you are really good enough to be at our institution. I just think that's like, you know, obviously most of you are probably good enough to be at that institution. It doesn't mean that they're going to accept everybody. But still, I just. I hate that messaging. Yeah.

So pretty much I just want to share my success story because you're constantly looking at all of these things about people who had these super high stats and didn't get any interviews or got interviews, but didn't get in. And you're constantly reminded about that and not reminded about the people who, like me, had normal stats and got in and got a bunch of interviews and everything. So.

And didn't come from some whole background of, well, I had to support my mother who was on crack and care for my five siblings. And I worked my way through. And, you know, your story wasn't one of like, you know, terrible, terrible adversity. And yet you still got it.

I'm an average girl, and I got in. I mean, I'm above average, I guess, in how hard that I worked in my stats and stuff, but I'm just a girl who got into med school.

Oh, God.

So today we are gonna give you all the secrets about how to get into your top choice in medical school. This is gonna be all the ins and outs.

All you gotta do is just follow what Stephanie did and everything will work out. Just pay a nice payment of $19.95 and we'll give you all the stuff.

And the rest will be behind a paywall.

That's right.

No, no, I'm just gonna lay it all out. I'm just gonna be completely honest with you. All of my stats, with everything. And, you know, take from that what you will. So an overall GPA of a 3.94. I had a 512 MCAT. I got 10 interviews and I got 3 acceptances. And I am a white girl with 2 doctors. With 2 doctors as parents. Yeah. Yes. That's the overview to kind of get into a little bit more ins and outs. Science GPA was a 3.92. My non science GPA was a 3.96. Then my overall, the 3.94.

And just to. Isn't like the only thing that really pulled your GPA down was a class you took in high school?

Yeah. So I had to submit all my dual enrollment credits. So for my Clemson GPA. I had a 3.98, but my. I had to submit my dual enrollment credits.

Okay, so. So that's great. You have all the stats and that's what you had when you applied. But what is an important part of the application is how you got to the idea that you wanted to be a doctor and that you wanted to apply to medical school. And so a lot of times people ask, like, well, what did you do starting, say, freshman year of college that helped you get into medical school? So kind of would you back up and just sort of tell your story, how you decided you wanted to be a doctor and what things you did along the course of your college career that you think were helpful in gaining acceptance to medical school?

Yeah, so I think a lot of people will ask people this and be like, what did you do? What were. What are the checkboxes? What do I need to check? And we've reiterated this a lot on this podcast. And if you think about it as a list and a checklist, I feel like you're just wasting your life just trying to check these boxes and trying to get to the next thing. And college is great and should be fun and you should be able to enjoy it and study what you want to while still being able to work hard to be able to give yourself as many opportunities as possible. So I didn't go in being like, okay, what are the steps I need to do to get into med school? I always had it in the back of my mind. But I went into college as a psychology major because I. This is my gist that I said in interviews. I went into college as a psychology major, really, just because of my interest in human behavior and individual differences. But so I really just liked psychology and I kind of wanted to see what opportunities that would bring me. I wanted to do really well in college in order to kind of open up doors for me, whether that was other grad schools or whether that was med schools. I just wanted to be able to get good grades so that if I wanted to go to med school or some other grad program, then I would have the opportunity to do that. I loved being a psychology major with kind of. And then taking those pre med classes extra. My psych classes were super interesting to me. I think they were really beneficial just in general knowledge and they weren't that hard.

So, like, that's a good combination.

Yeah. And I had to, you know, people are like, oh, if you're a major that doesn't line up with the biology stuff, then you're going to have to take all of these extra classes. And I did have to take a lot of extra classes, but I kind of had my pre med hard classes and then I had like my psych classes too. Rather than going and choosing a major in like biochem. When you're taking, not only do you need to take all those pre med classes, but then all the hard, hard biochem classes too. And I didn't have a strong interest in biochem.

So that's actually, that's a really great point.

So my point with that is that like choose something that you're interested in. And I still, so I had a minor in biology, so I still had to take those bio classes. And I didn't even start taking chemistry classes till my second semester freshman year. Bio one was supposed to be a weed out class for pre meds and I ended up getting an A in that. And I was like, okay, well maybe I'll go on and take some other pre med classes like chemistry and kind of follow that route and see how I do in those classes and see if maybe this is something that I can continue to pursue. So that's what I did.

That part was lining up as far as taking the classes. You're basically, you're doing a psychology major, you're taking the pre med classes as well, and, and you're kind of just seeing how things go along. But then you got interested in doing some research through the psychology department, is that right? Or how you got interested in doing some research?

Yeah, that kind of happened. So freshman year it kind of was just chugging along Covid all that first summer I just did a fun job. I was just a camp counselor. So I was still not like super set on a certain career path. But then sophomore year I was still interested in psychology and I wanted to do see if I want to go to more of like a therapy route or working with kids route. So that second summer in between sophomore and junior year, I was a behavior technician and this is where I worked with kids with autism. So I was on the therapy side of things to see if this is kind of a route that I wanted to take. With my psychology degree, I learned a lot. I didn't want to take that route. I realized that therapy and interventional therapy and working with kids was not my calling.

Which I. And just to interject, I think that that's really great when part of your story is I tried this and I didn't like it. This wasn't me, this was not what I wanted to do. And I think that that's something that premeds need to realize, too, is that if you're just like, okay, and I did this, and I like this, and I did this, and I like this, I mean, that's all fine, but if you tried some other things and you realize you don't want to do that, that helps. That helps kind of narrow your path of what you want to do.

And I think that these summers are super important with choosing those sort of jobs to be able to figure out what you like and what you don't like when you're going into a career path. Take note of this, too. I went into that summer being like, okay, maybe I want to work with kids. Maybe I kind of want to do a therapy thing. I worked with these kids. I got a bunch of clinical hours that summer, But I didn't go into that summer being like, I need to do this to get clinical hours. So I think those sort of things are really important and important to check yourself, especially in those early stages. If you're a freshman in college and you're like, okay, I need to go get clinical hours, I just think you need to check yourself and be like, okay, wait, what am I interested in doing? And, you know, I was interested in doing that. And that led me to get clinical hours, which then, you know, this is continuing my trajectory. So after that summer, I then got involved with research in the psychology department. I was kind of like, okay, maybe I don't like clinical things. Maybe I want to do research. And I started reaching out to just various professors. I was just cold emailing people, just being like, hey, do you have any research opportunities? I was cold emailing these professors. And Clemson has this thing called creative inquiries, which is essentially, it's just a way to get involved with research while still getting class credit for it. Yeah. So I emailed Dr. Byrne and she responded. She said they had an opening to do a. To run these studies up at Greenville Hospital. So this study was called the Overcome study, and essentially I was working with opioid use disorder patients, running different neurocognitive tests on them. The study was to kind of see if this cognitive behavioral therapy worked for a treatment of opioid use disorder. Comparing that with, like, some other drug treatment stuff.

Can I ask one question about that? Because the question always comes up like, is something clinical experience or is it research? And you can't double dip. What was that? What did those hours count as? As clinical hours or as research hours?

I mean, it was clinical research. I just put it as research.

Okay.

I didn't even think about putting it.

As clinical because you were working with patients were actually. I mean, to me, that could have counted, but. But you had enough of that stuff.

So pretty much I was doing clinical research. That was my first step of starting to do research. I kind of ended up getting thrown into this role and not really prepared. I ended up. I was kind of the person in charge of running this entire study, and I was the only one that, like, knew how to do everything. And I had to rewrite the protocols and I don't know, I kind of just got thrown into this whole thing.

But you stepped up and did it.

But I did it. And they appreciated you a ton. Yes. And with that, I made great relationships with the Clemson Psychology department. Just making relationships with professors was a huge asset in this journey. So just adding on to that, then I was like, okay, maybe I kind of want to do. This is clinical research. Maybe I kind of want to do more bench lab research. Maybe I want to do a PhD. What do I want to do? So then I started applying to these summer undergraduate research programs, and I was interested in neuroscience, just kind of with doing addiction research. Neuroscience intrigued me. I feel like I didn't really understand what neuroscience was before I started applying to these. I was like, yeah, neuroscience. You know, I like. I like the basic science aspect of things, and I like psychology. So I was like, neuroscience, perfect. So I started applying to these summer undergraduate research programs, and then with the. These relationships that I made with my professors, with Dr. Byrne, Dr. Pericot, Valverde, and then Dr. Ennis, I was able to get some good letters of rec and apply to a bunch of different programs. This was in. This was for the summer in between my junior and senior year. So I got a program in Charleston at musc. These programs are pretty competitive, and a lot of them are tailored towards underrepresented minorities. I kind of. You. I had to do a lot of digging to find something that would. Was interested in me. But I only got accepted to this one program, and I applied to quite a few. So I did that summer program and realized I don't can't do bench lab research. That's just PhD out. Yeah. I was like, absolutely not. I worked with the MD. PhD. I was like, maybe I'll do MD PhD. No. I don't know why. I. I was a little Delulu there.

I didn't know what it was all about.

No. And then I worked with one who would stay up all night with the mice just cutting their brains and Stuff. And, yeah, it was not for fun.

Just for research purposes.

Yeah, well, I don't. Honestly, I don't know what he did in the lab at night, but, yeah, so then I did that, and I was like, okay, no, I'm not doing a PhD. I realized I really did, like, the clinical side of stuff, and, you know, this was kind of like, my basic stuff. I had other shadowing experiences at Clemson, too, that I did that helped solidify the decision. I feel like you really commit when you. When you're committing to studying for the mcat. And that's when I was like, if I'm going to commit to study for the mcat, then, like, that's when I'm all in and I'm going in on this process. So I waited because I didn't want to be like, I didn't want to study and put in all that effort If I wasn't 100% sure. So just kind of after doing this, after doing well in my classes, after realizing kind of tailoring some things out, after doing a bunch of shadowing, too, throughout my time there, I was like, okay, I'm all in. I'm gonna study for the mcat. So I kind of finished college early in December, and I only had one class in the spring, and I essentially spent, like, full time for three months, six days a week, eight hours a day, grinded, studying for the MCAT. Took it one and done. Got a 512. And I was like, okay, I got a 512 on the MCAT. I have a great GPA. I was like, let's do this. I felt like I had a really good shot, and I applied this year and I got in, so it all worked out. Yeah, I feel like that was a long description, but just things I want to pinpoint in there is with this journey. I didn't walk in freshman year being like, okay, what do I need to do? Clinical hours, research, good gpa, good mcat. I was just like, what am I interested in and what do I want to do? And, like, through that, I ended up gaining those experiences. And I understand that's not necessarily everybody's story. And some people need to take a gap year to do to. Because they didn't do that clinical stuff. And then they realized they do need to do it. And, yes, that makes sense, but I don't know. I still. I. I'm still standing by. If you follow what you want to do and that, like, leads you towards this path, I think you're going to gain the experiences that you need To. In order for you to apply?

Well, I think so. And I think that, you know, I just think it's always strange when somebody says, you say, why do you want to be a doctor? And they say, well, I just always wanted to be a doctor. And I'm like, so you were five and somebody told you that you should be a doctor. That's what I'm hearing in that story. Don't say you always wanted to be a doctor. It's okay if it was something that you already always thought about. But, like, for you, you kind of have a compelling story about how you really tried different things, and it really led you back to this path of medicine. And that, to me is like, it's just more interesting than saying, yeah, I always wanted to be a doctor, and people said I needed to do this and this. And I think those are the people who kind of struggle in the application process because they just don't. They don't have a real reason of why they wanted to be a doctor or what things they really liked or didn't like. They just did stuff because that's what they were supposed to do.

Yeah. And I think that shows in an application. I think people are like, you need to make your personal statement sound good. And, like, your applications sound good.

But you.

If you really just were like, okay, this is what I'm gonna do. Step, step, step. That, like, shows. And I don't. That's. That. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's true. So, okay, so now you. You.

You.

You've taken the mcat, did well. You knew that, like, retaking the MCAT was not gonna be. There was no reason to do that. Even if you hadn't gotten in. That was not. It wasn't weak enough that it was gonna be like, okay, that's. That score was not going to stop you from getting into med school. So now you're like, okay, I'm going to apply. So now walk us through, like, how. How that worked, and any. Any particular tips for anybody who gets to that point?

Because you hear. You don't want to be too confident in saying these statements, and you hear about these people who have these super high stats and didn't get in, and you're so discouraged. But, like, if you have around a 5, 10 and you have a high GPA, like. Like, you should get in. Like, that is just the. That's the stats. That's. It depends, you know, okay, you got to throw your state residency in. You got to throw, like, where you're applying, but, like, you are Good enough to get in if you have those stats. So I'm just want to throw that out there.

That's good.

Like if you're not it. Yeah, I don't know if you're not getting in, if you have around those stats and you're not getting in, it's not. I don't feel like it's your stats. But. Okay, what was the question?

So, okay, so then, so now we're at the application process. There's the regular AMCAS application, which is for everywhere else in the country. But then Texas has its own separate application.

First I want to talk about the AMCAS application and what schools I chose to apply to there. So for amcas, this is out of state, non Texas schools. I applied to 35 schools, which is kind of ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And AMCAS didn't like me that much. Honestly. I only got four interviews from the 35 schools that I applied to. I think I got you. You'll have your primaries and then you get secondaries and then you get interviews. I think I got secondaries from essentially everywhere. But yeah, I only got four, which, you know, who knows why they didn't like me. My stats weren't crazy high. And also I'm a Texas resident, so I, you know, kind of had good average to good stats and I'm in Texas. So I think that they probably just thought I was going to go in Texas, which is true.

I mean they knew she had good enough stats to get into a Texas school. And. And just Texas schools are much cheaper than most other schools. Even other, even other states for in state residents at those states. Texas. I was actually just looking at this recently because I was really excited about you getting in. I mean that saved a ton of money. And so I do think that that's part of it is they're like, well, she's going to get into Texas. She's not going to come here. But who knows?

Who knows? Whatever. AMHERST, you know, 35 schools. I got four interviews. Those four interviews. I went to school in South Carolina, so I got interviews at two of the University of South Carolina schools. And then my parents both went to Kansas. So I got an interview at Kansas. Then I also got an interview at the University of Maryland, which one of my letter writers, he. His lab was in like moved to the University of Maryland. So that's why applied there.

Wasn't he like the dean somewhere at like. He was.

No, that was Greenville. That was a different letter writer.

Oh. Oh, man, you had fancy people.

Yeah. So I mean that Was big. Yeah. I had the dean of usc, Green, but one of the deans at usc, Greenville, was one of my letter writers because he was on one of the studies that I did. Yeah, those. Again, going back to those relationships that I had, I made great relationships. My professors at Clemson and three of my Clemson professors wrote me a letter of rec. And then I had one from my summer doing neuroscience research, and then another one from another study that I did. So those were huge.

That. That is interesting because there's this kind of dogma that you don't really have to do lots of research and that med schools don't care that much about research. That's what I see on some of the things that I read. But seems like research is very important for building those relationships.

Oh, for sure. Like especially at Clemson with my psych professors. Yeah, that was. And Dr. Ennis, too. We did projects with him. So, yeah, those relationships were super important. Going back to the schools that I applied to. Yeah. Essentially my point with saying what schools I got interviews at, I had some sort of connection to those schools. I got in South Carolina, I went to undergrad in South Carolina, so that's why I got those interviews at those schools. Kansas, both my parents went there. I had a tie there. And then Maryland, my research professor was a professor there or has a lab there. So I had connections to these schools. I applied to a bunch of random private schools that had stats around mine, which I guess if you're, you know, it depends on your state residency, yada, yada, yada. Okay. So if my parents didn't pay for my applications and I really had to narrow down what schools I was going to apply to, I would have applied to all the Texas schools, and then out of state, I would have applied to all the South Carolina schools to KU and then to maybe a couple private schools where I think I would have had a good shot. But like a lot of these random schools, it's kind of like, okay, she's a Texas resident. Like, why would she come here? So that makes sense. But overall, I think just apply to as many schools as you can afford.

Yeah, I mean, it's nice to cast a wide net, but I think she and I kind of discussed that just doing this whole shotgun approach, if you don't have any real connection to that place is probably not really going to be very fruitful. Even if your stats are in line with that school, you're better off to apply somewhere where maybe your stats are slightly off, but you have a connection there rather than somewhere where Your stats align, but you don't have any connection.

Yes, I agree. I guess we should kind of explain. If you are not from that state, you will pro. And you don't have a connection to that state, you will probably most likely not get into a public institution.

And just to explain that the schools want people who are going to come and practice medicine in their state. They want you to stay. So, you know, if you at least had some reason, you know, you could have whatever. If you had some reason to be in that state, then you have like some reason to be there. But they want you to come and practice. I mean, I moved from California to Kansas. Then I left after marrying a Kansas. So Kansan. So anyway, I feel a little bit about that.

Yeah, I guess you didn't. You, you didn't have a connection.

I didn't. But at that time, I mean, California residents had to. Well, I think it's still that way. Have to just apply all over because there's really not enough spots in California. And so anyway, that's just kind of a chance. Sometimes they roll the dice on you. I might have ended up staying in Kansas.

So for. So that was the out of state application. Now talking about the Texas application for the Texas application, it's a whole separate thing. And there are 12 MD schools there. So I applied to all 12 and I got six interviews. So with Texas schools, instead of just having kind of a rolling admission acceptance, I mean, instead of having just rolling admissions, like the out of state schools, do they have this thing called the Texas match. So for all the schools that you interviewed at, you rank those schools. So I interviewed at 6. So I ranked the schools 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. And then on a day this year is February 16th, then I figured out which school I matched to. I kind of explained it like sorority rush. So if I match to my number one, if I match to my number two, and so on and so forth. So they also do these things called pre matches that essentially they'll tell you, they'll be like, you've received a pre match. If you rank us number one, then you're guaranteed to have a spot at our medical school.

So those are really nice. If you get those. They're kind of rare.

Yeah, rare. I didn't get any. So I went into the match having zero pre matches, but it is.

So anyway. But the point is, even if you. That you end up with, you rank them, they rank you. Now you might not match anywhere just because you're in the match. No matter. You could have 12 interviews, but there's no guarantee that you're actually going to get an acceptance from that match.

And if you say I matched to my number three school, then my application would still be active at my number one and my number two school. So that, and then that's when the rolling admission process starts from the match day until the beginning of the school year. So then that kind of looks similar to a wait list and then an acceptance. Luckily, I ranked, I put McGovern number one and I matched McGovern, so that's that. And I'm going to Houston. Thank God. Yay.

Yay. What would you do if you, okay, you were lucky enough, you actually had two other out of state admissions, but let's pretend that you didn't get into those and you didn't match anywhere and you maybe wait listed and it just didn't work out. What would you do? I guess part of what I'm getting at though is if there's somebody else who was just like you, just a simple white girl who, you know, had these same stats, who did apply broadly, who had all this experience and she had a bunch of interviews and she didn't match anywhere or she didn't get in. I mean, I think that, I mean, I think my advice to her would be you, you will get in. If this is what you really want to do, reapply. If there's a few tweaks to your application, do that. But reapply, because you just had a series of bad luck, like there wasn't something, some awful reason why you should not be a doctor.

I agree. And yeah, no, I'm not trying to sound like, oh, of course I was going to get in, whatever. But I'm just trying to. Yeah. Re. Emphasize that because you're constantly told about all of these stories of people not getting in. And if you have the stats to get in, then you are completely capable of doing so and you're completely capable of being a good doctor.

You can do it.

Yeah, you can do it. And don't be discouraged. And honestly, my biggest advice to anybody is stop looking at Reddit.

That is a very important thing.

You only see the best of the best and the worst of the worst. You never hear about people like me.

Well, maybe you should post on Reddit.

See, no, I'm not.

Because normal people don't post on Reddit.

Exactly, exactly. Normal people don't post. Yeah, it's just, just don't look at it. Don't get in your head about it. Enjoy your life and work hard. But don't put your whole identity in this.

Yeah.

Because that's what they want you to do. Don't give in.

Don't give in to the man. No, but still, you can. You can do well in college and still have fun and have a life and have good friends. Friends and have a serious relationship and all those things. You can. You can do all of that now. You just have to prioritize.

But I mean, I'm saying this from a place of privilege. Like, I didn't have to work in. In college. I didn't have to, you know, I'm coming out of college without debt like I am. I'm Was able to kind of enjoy my life and work hard and do well. And I'm really grateful with how I did things and balance my college experience. I still had to have a great group of friends and everything, so I did it. I also can say that from a place of privilege.

Yeah, well, I think that's. I think that's nice. I appreciate that. Here's the things that I kind of take away from this. Number one, you can do it. If you want to do this, you can do it. You don't have to start doing stuff freshman year before or the summer before your freshman year of college. Start getting your CNA certificate, which is. Is what I see people trying to do. They're like, well, I'm gonna get my certified that summer. Oh, okay.

I just remember going to the hospital, like, hungover with dad during, like, grad parties and stuff. So I don't think I learned much.

Okay, well, so anyway. But, you know, you don't have to have, like, you don't have to have decided before you even start college that you want to be a doctor. But gathering experiences all along the way and keeping that door open is important. Doing things that can count as clinical experience, but are things that you're interested in. Doing research really did help you. It helped you kind of narrow your focus on what you liked and didn't like. It helped you maintain those. Or make those relationships with those persons, professors. And so. And then you did. You learned a lot about research, which I think is. Yeah, I think that's important. We read studies all the time in medicine, and so if you participate in research, I think that helps you understand that more. And then, you know, you're kind of cast down a little bit on the. Casting a huge, wide net. Cast an okay net, but it doesn't have to be huge. I guess we would say be a little smart and just thought strategic. I think strategic in Building your list of where you're going, going to apply, especially if your parents are not paying for your applications. And then apply early. We didn't discuss that, but that's very important as well. You know, applying early to start that whole process at the beginning. You don't want to be applying at the end of the summer when they're already starting to give out interview invites and you know, believe in yourself.

I do have one more thing to say. If you're a parent that's listening to this and you know, you're trying to do all the right stuff to make sure that your kid is going to be successful and do the best that they can. Just be cautious about. You know, if your kid is asking you for advice and asking you for help and is struggling, then I think that's completely acceptable to open the door. I think it's good to be able to, you know, have an understanding of this process and what it looks like because it's really tough. But I think the best thing that you can do as a parent is just be emotionally supportive with your kid and just this process is tough. It's super degrading. I think just being, you know, optimistic. You're again, you're in the pre med culture, you're always told that you're not good enough. So just trying to encourage your kid that they have value in stuff other than their school. And so that's. You want your kid to be successful, but success doesn't have to look like getting into medical school. That can be be successful in so many other aspects of life.

What she's saying is back off.

Parents just back down. And I think the same thing about kids looking at Reddit is parents looking at these pre med pages and stuff, you can totally get into a rabbit hole and just get so anxious about whether or not your kid is going to get in. On the kids side of it, there's a lot that is in your control, but there's also a lot that's out of your control on, on the parent side of it, essentially everything is out of your control other than emotional support. So just be supportive without putting pressure.

I think that's good. If they are not having success, they are feeling frustrated and then it's just compounded if they feel like they're disappointing you.

Yeah, for sure. That was said. Well, okay. Anything else?

I think that's it. So now we're just gonna kind of party on for the next few months.

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