Medical Myths, Hydration Hype, and Meet Our Editor Lilly!

No reason to expose yourself and start peeing on anybody ever. Really?

Really? Yeah.

I don't really know that there's any indications.

Is there a doctor, Is there any indications where you should pee on your friend?

I don't think so. Okay.

Hi, everybody, and welcome to the podcast. This is Generations MD. My name is Stephanie. I'm joined with my colleague, Dr. Sarah Davis, who's also my mother. We're back where it all began.

That's right. It really takes you back being here, doesn't it?

Oh, yeah. Brings me way, way back.

Stephanie is in Dallas visiting, and she's come over to the office just because she wants to spend time with me. Right.

I just had some stuff to do over here.

Okay.

I'm very exhausted from my procedure this morning.

Yes. Is that something you want to tell.

Us about my dentist procedure?

So Stephanie had never had a cavity until today.

Yeah. Now I got a bunch, so. Mmm.

Have you been flossing?

Yes, I floss every day.

Twice a day?

No, not twice a day. Who floss?

I floss twice a day. Oh, that's not true. Yeah. Okay. I only floss Wednesday. That's right. Okay, nevermind.

I always kind of wondered, like, about dentists and why they spend so much time in dental school. I'm like, what are you doing for that long? But I guess they need to know a lot.

Well, yeah, because you've never really. You've just mostly seen the hygienist. And they clean and then the dentist walks in there, takes a look and is like, okay, all looks good.

Yeah, exactly. So I'm just like, why do they need to. What do they do? But I guess, you know, you do a lot. You could do a lot of stuff.

Yeah, that's because in the other room, they're doing procedures all day.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's important. But I went. I never got a feeling before. They just, okay, sit down here. And then they just started going for it and did not tell me what was happening at all. And all of a sudden, they, like, gave me an epinephrine and I didn't even know. And then my heart starts beating.

You thought you were dying? I did.

I thought. I didn't. I didn't know any of this. Just kind of whenever I have any sort of, like, healthcare encounter now, it just kind of reminds me of, like, what to do and, you know, not just assume that somebody knows what's going on.

Yeah. I mean, just because most people have had cavities by the time they're your age.

But not. I Mean, I don't know.

Really, I don't know, but. Yeah, you still, like, I would still, like.

Like, they just had me sit down in the chair, like, and then the dentist came in, and I hadn't even met this dentist before, and then they're like, okay, I'm gonna be doing your filling. And then just went in, took a big needle to numb me. And I just. I just wish that she would have been like, okay, we're gonna do. We're numb you, then we're gonna get the cavity out, then we're going to put the filling in. I didn't know. I didn't know anything.

Well, when I remember when they were describing to me what happens when you get your wisdom teeth out. And my dentist was explaining it to me, and he's like, okay, so what they're going to do is they're going to scrape off the gums, then they're going to dig in there. Dig, dig, dig. And then they're going to have to, like, really get that thing out, but it's underneath the gum, so they're gonna have to really scrape off. And he kept saying it over and over, and. And I started to have a vasovagal reaction. I was kind of standing when he was telling me that, and I was like, I gotta sit down. And so, I mean, like, I would have passed out if I hadn't sat down.

But, yeah, I guess that's another point. You're so immune to the whole thing that you don't even think about how other people are thinking of it.

Yeah, I did feel like he got way more graphic than he needed to be. I felt like he was really stressing the scraping. And, you know, I mean, when you get your wisdom teeth out, you are, like, asleep. Pretty much.

Yeah.

So, like, I didn't.

You didn't need all these details.

All those details. Just, you know, gonna go in, extract them. Okay. You'll be asleep. That's fine. But, yeah, when you're sitting there awake, it's kind of nice to know, like, this is gonna happen. And if it's not numb, let me know that.

Yes. Yes. Because I was, like, in my. Like, I didn't know if I was supposed to be feeling stuff. And then my mouth getting numb. Like, that's weird. Like, it was just a weird feeling. And I kind of thought. I was like, oh, my God, is my tongue swelling?

And, like, am I having an allergic reaction?

Yes, that's what I just think, because I was saying, like, after they gave the epinephrine, which I didn't know was epinephrine at the time. They walk out of the room, and then I'm sitting there and my heart feels like it's beating out of my chest. And I'm just remembering, like, these random anki cards of being, like, after a dental procedure, like, you can get, like, stuff EPI and then you can get rheumatic fever, and then you can get mitral stenosis, and, like, then it causes this heart murmur, you know, I didn't remember that. It all I was remembering is, like, dental procedure, mitral stenosis.

It doesn't happen. Like.

So I was freaking out a little bit, but I didn't. I didn't cause a scene. I was like, I'm probably fine. Just kind of sit there. Yeah.

You know, it's not great to know all the different things that can go wrong with stuff. That's why you. Right. For the next few years, you know, just enough to be dangerous.

Yeah, yeah, I know. Exactly. Exactly.

Know what can go wrong without knowing why it's not going wrong.

Yeah, yeah. You just know, like, all the bad stuff. That's. That just kind of reminds me as we've been going through our modules, like, we had our hip module, like, hematology, immunology, and pathology, and then we had our cardiology module. Now we're in renal. And. And all of my friends even, like, I found myself doing the same thing. I wanted to go get a CBC during my HIIT module. And then during cardio, I was like, I kind of want to go get an ekg. And a lot of my, like, a ton of my classmates went and got EKGs at the student clinic. They did it?

Yes, yes.

Convinced that they have a heart murmur or convinced they have some sort of arrhythmia.

That's funny. I guess they're just used to that at the student health, like, oh, must be on the cardio module.

Well, there was one girl that came, who is a third year in our class who did a patient presentation, and she was diagnosed with an atrial septal defect her third year or her second year of medical school, which is crazy. Like, and she had, you know, practice doing a full history with everybody else. And, you know, like, she went to a pediatrician who had listened to her heart and everything and never caught it. And then she just went to the student health clinic just for a checkup, and they listened to her heart. They actually caught it from a stethoscope. Yeah.

That's pretty impressive because I don't think that's a super Easy one to hear.

How often have you ever heard a heart murmur.

Yeah, yeah, sure.

That you didn't know that was a heart murmur before?

Yeah, yeah. It's like, I remember doing my cardiology rotation, and that was kind of a good place to, you know, to practice. So you would, like, really listen. I'm like, okay, this is what's going on. And you really think about it, and then they come in and you're like, okay, I think he's got this. And, you know, then of course, they just look at the echo report, and then they can tell you exactly what they have. They already know. But, no, I've certainly. I've picked up some murmurs in my day.

Okay, good to know. Well, speaking of murmurs and diagnosing yourself and myths and stuff, we had some listener questions from the last episode.

Oh, we did.

When I was talking about my jellyfish sting on my leg.

Okay.

And I kept. When I kept telling people about this jellyfish sting, because if you weren't listening, I went to Mexico, ended up getting potentially a jellyfish sting. Maybe not, but I've been telling people to jellyfish sting because.

Better story.

It's a better story. And it's like a big mark on my leg. And everyone's been asking me, well, did you pee on it?

Oh, yeah. Like the Friends episode.

Yeah. Well, yes. So that was like. Like, even. So I. I've been talking to doctors, and they've even asked me, like, did you pee on it? Do you think that that is fact or fiction?

I think that's fake addiction.

And why do you.

What.

What is the. Do you know anything about it?

I don't, but it seems like. I feel like it's. You would want. If you were doing something, like, you would want something more alkaline rather than something acidic.

Yeah. And the idea is. I guess the idea was sterilization. I don't know. It had something to do with the ammonium or something.

Oh, really?

In the urine is why you would do it, but. Or putting beer on it. Right. People talked about that. Yeah, but no, it is fict. You're not supposed to pee on a jellyfish sting.

All right. What are you supposed to do right away, by the way? Wait, but before we get into that, because we don't really know that this was a jellyfish sting. Did you feel something sting you?

No, but there were alternative factors to that.

Okay.

So, yeah, it says, like, there's no scientific evidence to support the effectiveness of urine in treating jellyfishing. Urine is a mixture of water, urea, and Other unknown substances or other substances.

Unknown.

They're definitely known. Can tell you all about it because I'm in the renal module right now. I guess. Yeah, it can actually just make it worse by introducing new bacteria to the wound. The idea seems like that urine can neutralize the sting and neutralize the venom in the sting.

Yeah.

Anyway, it's not really based on anything. No, don't. If your friend is at the beach and gets stung by a jellyfish, don't pee on them.

No reason to expose yourself and start peeing on anybody ever. Really?

Really?

Yeah, I don't really know that there's any indications.

Is there a doctor, is there any indications where you should pee on your friend?

I don't, I don't think so.

Okay.

That is interesting. Talking about there's just kind of more bacteria. You know, it's. Urine does have bacteria in it. Even when you don't have a urinary tract infection, there's just, it's not considered a urinary tract infection until it has greater than 100,000 Colony Forming Units of one particular bacteria. So your urine does have bacteria in it. So anyway, just, just pointing that out that urine is not sterile.

So there's other, you know, there's so many pseudoscience myths out there. So we're going to do a little fact or fiction.

Okay.

Series. I'm going to ask the doctor. So is it true that you shouldn't, you should wait 30 minutes after eating before swimming?

No. I mean, you know, you could potentially get a cramp because you've got kind of parasympathetic nervous system taking over, aiding in digestion. But. So if you started swimming. Yes, you might get a little cramp, but I don't think that's really a big deal. So. No, you don't have to wait 30 minutes.

Okay. What about sugar causing hyperactivity in kids?

That's, that's, there's not any evidence that sugar really causes hyperactivity in kids.

But like you have like a spike in your glucose, right? So can't that.

It's not that high of a spike if everything is working properly in your body. I mean, your glucose isn't going up to like 400 or something like that. I mean, yeah, it's going up a little bit, but, but like, just because you have a little bit more glucose in your system doesn't make you just start running around crazy.

But if you're a kid and you eat like a lot of sugar, then you get, then you're, and you're down and you get a spike of energy.

And then you just go crazy. But no, sugar does not cause hyperactivity.

Okay, what else you got?

Come on. I'm on a roll.

Okay. Oh, cracking your knuckles causes arthritis?

No.

Why not? What does cracking your knuckles even do?

It just moves the fluid, the synovial fluid around. I actually used to be. Used to do this all the time when I was young. In fact, I've kind of forgotten about it.

If I cracking your knuckles, I might start doing it. I crack my knuckles all the time. It drives dad crazy. He hates it.

I mean, the only thing is, like, if you're putting your hands in really weird positions all of the time, could that maybe potentially lead to some sort of arthritis? I mean, maybe, again, you'd have to be doing it, like, all the time. But just the cracking, it's just. It's like apparently just this synovial fluid moving around, and it causes this. Gives this nice little noise. And that can be very reinforcing to some people.

How much water do you need to drink a day?

Oh, not as much as you think. That's this whole thing of water. Okay, I'll go on my. On a little bit of a rant. Like, how did people get so thirsty? Like, when we were kids, we got up in the morning, we had breakfast, we went to school, we went all the way through until, like, lunchtime. Then we'd have our lunch, and then we'd get one of those little tiny milks with our lunch. And then. And that's what we would drink. No more, no less, go back to school classes all day long. Maybe if you got thirsty during recess, you could go to the water fountain and drink for, you know, a little bit. But if you started drinking for too long, people would say, hurry up, I want to get a drink. Because sometimes there's a line at the drinking fountain, right? And then that's it. You didn't drink anything while you were in class the entire time you were in class. Then you, like, walked home or rode your bike home. And once you got home, yes, you could have some to drink. And that's what we did. And we were just fine.

And now all of you guys have heart disease, so.

So therefore proves it.

And now we all have our Stanleys and we're walking around.

I must confess, I'm the same way. I get into my car, and if I, like, try to go somewhere for, it's like, 10 minutes in my car, and I'm like, I don't have my water with me. Like, like, I can't survive 10 minutes without my water. Like, it's. It's a little bit. It's a little bit ridiculous. Now, certainly you don't want to be dehydrated. Good. To drink some water. But sometimes people, like, think that it has all of these benefits that it really doesn't have. Once in a great while, people can actually drink too much water.

Poly.

Polydips.

Psychogenic polydipsia. Yes, yes.

Seen it.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

We also had a patient. This is. Sorry, this is off topic, but I was just thinking of, like, psychogenic stuff. But we also had a patient who had pseudocysis in our clinic in residency, and that's somebody who thinks that they're pregnant, but they're not.

A Virgin Mary.

Yeah. And she came into the clinic for years and years, and there was a new group of residents that would always, like, get to see her. And she would come in, she was like, well, you know, I don't want to take any medicines, you know, because of the baby.

Oh, she just like.

Yeah.

And she was pregnant for years.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. I mean, I don't think she really thought about, like, how long it was till this baby was supposed to be delivered or whatever, but she would just talk about the baby, and everybody was just kind of used to it. So, you know, sometimes you ask about the baby, whatever with it.

Okay, sure.

So sure. Anyway. But yes. Psychogenic polydipsia. I mean, people do that and, like, you. Oh. And, you know, so, like, one of the ways that you're trying to figure out. Because, you know these people, so you get hyponatremia, so low sodium level. And sometimes you're trying. Since this person has this hyponatremia, you're trying to figure out what's going on. And so one of the ways you do is just, like, kind of put them in the hospital fluid, restrict them, and then see what happens. But then they catch these people, like, drinking out of the toilet.

What is it it's called when you're hiding something like that?

Well, like Munchausen symptoms.

No, no, no, no. Just like a word for it. Because, like, they're. They're. I don't know. It's words in the house. Never mind.

I don't know. I don't know. We used to just call it lying. Sorry. I'm sure there's something much better that you could call it now.

Well. Wow. Okay. Man. I was a psych major and everything, and I never even heard of this.

Yeah. I mean, now sometimes people aren't you know, they just think that they need to drink a lot of water. It's not that they are, you know, it's not that they're trying to hide anything. They're just like. And especially a lot of times people think if they're constipated that they need to drink more water. And certainly if you're truly dehydrated, that can, that can cause some constipation. But if you're adequately hydrated, it doesn't help you to drink gallons and gallons of water. That's not gonna make your bowels move.

What about electrolytes? I need my electrolytes, Doctor.

Yeah, you do need electrolytes, but not, you know, again, only if you are drinking like tons of water and sweating lots and lots and lots. Do you really need that much electrolytes.

So how much water should I drink a day? I think the myth is you have to drink like eight glasses of water.

Oh, yeah, it used to be like 8.8ounce. So like 64 ounces a day, which honestly is quite a bit. Yeah, Yeah, I don't, I don't.

It depends on the day, right?

Yeah. I mean, ye. Again, if you're out sweating or if you're. I mean, I certainly drink a lot of water in Dallas in the summer when it's super hot. And supposedly thirst is not the greatest indicator of hydration status. You know, if you are doing something like, you know, running in the heat or that kind of stuff, you do need to start drinking before you get really, really thirsty. Because you're kind of like a little behind the eight ball if you wait too long. But if you're not really doing anything and you're not really sweating that much, you don't really need to be carrying around a gallon jug of water.

Well, are there like, benefits to hydration?

You don't want to be dehydrated, just like lots of these things. But being over hydrated isn't really going to make additional benefits.

What about, like, in combination with alcohol consumption?

Well, alcohol dehydrates you. So you do want to drink water if you are consuming alcohol.

Yeah.

The other reason to do that is it makes you not drink so much alcohol. Drink a. Drink a glass of water in between every alcoholic beverage that you consume.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, everybody, next up, we have a very special guest. She has been behind the scenes on Generations MD and now this is her big debut. Please welcome to the podcast editor in chief, Lily.

Yay, Lily.

Hello.

Thanks for having me, guys. I've been, I've been waiting for this. I'm excited.

So, yeah, you are the backbone of our organization here, so we appreciate everything that you do. And really, like, I don't know how the podcast would still be going if it weren't for you, so.

Oh, no, it's been great. I've really enjoyed getting the chance to. It's been something that I've never really done before. I didn't have experience doing it, so it was definitely fun to learn and kind of get the hang of it. And now I feel like I'm pretty good at it for the most part.

Yeah, she's got it down. So tell us about yourself a little bit.

Yeah. So a bit of a long story, but I'm Lily. I grew up in Indiana, so I lived there basically my whole life. Went to college in Indiana at Hanover College. Go Panthers. Met my boyfriend Blake there. My family actually moved to Alabama my senior year of college, so I moved there and got a job first as a medical assistant in a pediatric office that I did for a while, which I enjoyed. Then I worked as a emergency room technician at UAB in Birmingham. And then now I'm here. I got to be here because my boyfriend Blake lives in Dallas, and I got this great opportunity with Dr. Davis. So I've been here for a year now, almost.

It's amazing. Yeah. How is it working for her? It's been great.

It's definitely different.

What's she gonna say? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, actually, I'm being tortured.

This is bad.

Maybe put up a sign that says, help me?

No. But it's been definitely different than all the other experiences I've had. In a good way. It's something that I feel like I have a lot of independent, not a whole lot of oversight with some things, except for helping things that I don't understand. So, yeah, I've really, really enjoyed it.

She took over the job that I did last year, and she's just an incredible employee.

Yeah. Really outshined some of the other people around here.

It's okay. I'll accept that.

I'll accept that.

Hey, you were the one that taught me, so all I gotta say is I had a good teacher.

I'll take credit for that. But, yeah, we're glad that you're here. We're glad that you're helping out. And then you're also applying to PA School, right?

I am. Yeah. All this has been a lot of. Getting a bunch of patient care experience for PA School. So it's. It's been a lot, but the grind is going still.

Nice. Nice. And what you have here.

Well, I'm actually going to say this to Which I thought was so cool. I know I just told you guys, but when I was told that I got to be a guest on the podcast, I was like, okay, I need to come up with some questions.

I need to. 15 minutes ago.

15 minutes ago, yes. Not a whole lot of prep time. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna ask ChatGPT. So I asked ChatGPT, I type in Generations MD podcast. What are questions as a guest on the podcast for Stephanie and Dr. Davis? And it came out with this four sheet thing of questions, so we'll see.

I'm not sure if we have time for all four pages.

No, no, no.

Definitely not. But I found a couple that were kind of good.

ChatGPT definitely knows who we are because I use it for everything. Every single time I'm thinking of a title or a description or any of it.

You guys are besties.

Yeah, yeah. Chat and I are like this. We're super close. Yeah.

But one of the funny ones that I found was, okay, so if Generations MD was made into a TV show, like, who would play you guys? Oh, what would be the actors?

Who isn't? Didn't someone say, you look like Celine Dionne?

Is she an actress or she's a singer?

Oh, I don't know that.

Yeah, Yeah, I don't know about that.

Who would you want to play you in a movie?

Jennifer Aniston.

Okay. Yeah, that's good. I'm trying to think. I want Sydney Sweeney to play me.

The TV people are always, like, way better looking than the actual people. So, you know, please don't come at me. I know I don't look anything like Jennifer Aniston, but, you know, I mean, you can pick whoever you want, so go with that.

Exactly. I think those are great choices. So, Dr. Davis, if you were a doctor, what do you think you would be doing instead?

Hmm. That's a good question. I don't know. That's been so long since. I mean, I've been a doctor for a really long time.

Yeah, a really long time.

I'm trying to think of other things that I thought about doing. You know, I would have done something in the sciences. Cause I majored in science. And I guess, you know, I did consider being a physical therapist, like going to PT school, so. So that might have been something that I would have done. I kind of, you know, when I was applying to med school, I was like, well, if I don't get in, I don't know I'll just worry about it then. Right. I didn't really have like a whole backup plan.

You know, I feel like that's kind.

Of similar for all medical professionals too. Just like, in general. Like, for me, for example, I feel like I would not want to do anything else. Like it would have to be medical related kind of thing.

Yeah, yeah. You've just kind of like been thinking about that for so long. It would be really weird to like pivot and do something completely different.

So this is kind of overall, but do you think healthcare needs to kind of shift and focus more on mental health? Like holistic sides from like past generations kind of thing?

Yeah, I think that I don't. It's just my minimal experience in the hospital at this stage in my education. I don't really know. And I also don't really have like a great comparison of like, how it was. I think the general consensus is yes, but at the same time, I don't. I don't really have enough experience to be able to speak on that. You're talking about like just treating conditions with everything or.

Yeah, I just mean I kind of feel like it's changed, like, universally. Like we've all become more aware about mental health as such a big thing now. And that's the way I was kind of reading. It was like, how can we incorporate how big it is getting? Like how it's changed, I guess, generationally.

You know, I would say whenever you read something about how somebody had this disease for so long and they were so upset because the doctor told them it was just anxiety and they're all like mad about that because they were told they had anxiety and then really they had a pheochromocytoma or something like that. And I hate that because I'm like, you know, anxiety is a real thing and you probably did have some anxiety. Yes, you had this other condition. But I feel like your generation actually is better at accepting that anxiety is a real thing. It's not something that you just tell people when you don't know what's wrong with them. You really do diagnose people with that. And the younger generation is more accepting of that as a diagnosis. Whereas my older people, like, I mean, some of them have terrible anxiety. They will never, ever accept treatment for it. And they just kind of live their lives like that. And I just, I think it's a little bit tragic because, like, it's a real thing. There's treatments for it, but you have to actually do the treatments if you want to get better. Maybe we should ask Lily some questions. You ask Lily something, I guess, like.

Why did you decide to do this PA route?

Yeah.

So from a young age, my dad always pushing like, you're going to be a doctor. You're going to grow up, you're going to be a doctor. And I was thinking that, but I was really exposed more to the other options. I used to think, like, in junior high even, I was like, oh, I guess doctor's the only thing to do. I guess that's what I'm gonna do. That's what I'm gonna be. But I kind of started learning more about the PA profession, and I was like, man, this is a little bit more interesting to me. I'm thinking more kind of like being under and collaborating with someone as well. So as a pa, I really like that I can also do all different specialties, too, because I don't know exactly what I want to do. I've always thought, yeah, I want to do stuff with kids. I really enjoy doing stuff with kids. But I also think, oh, surgery is kind of cool, or, I don't know, maybe I want to do this. So I really like that lateral mobility of things as well. So I was like, man, you know, I got to shadow some PAs too, while I was in college and then work alongside PAs in the ER. And I was like, man, this is definitely what I'm looking for. This is. This is great.

So, yeah, I think, like, your personality and everything just fits perfect in that role. And, like, from what I've seen of what you've done here, like, I literally couldn't think of anybody better to be a pa. Like, genuinely, how do you feel like your experience here, because you kind of have a variety of different roles, has, like, impacted what you might want to do with a PA degree?

No, yeah, definitely. I. I really, really think it's so cool that this is such a unique experience. Experience that I don't think many people, like, gaining patient care experience for PA school will have. So it's kind of opened my eyes to other options that I could have in a specialty sort of thing. So I've agreed that, yeah, I've always thought kids or, like, primary care side, and I do think most PAs, like, they're pushed that, you know, like, going through school, like, yeah, primary care, underserved communities, which I think is great, too, that I would maybe thrive in. But working with your dad as well, too, seeing the sports medicine side of things and the hospital setting, I'm like, man, that would also be something that would be Cool, too. So both sides of working through here, and IPA has. It's helped, but it's also made my decision harder of what I want to do.

Yeah, I think it makes it a little bit exacerbated, I guess, just because it's only two years of school and I know you get exposure, but then it's kind of like, okay, you. We kind of got to decide in that amount of time. But I guess you can make lateral moves is what you're saying. Right, Right.

Yeah, there's that lateral mobility. But I do think for some of those, like, harder specialties, too, there's, like, fellowship kind of opportunities, which would definitely be something that I would want to do. Primary care. I feel like I could maybe pick up the ropes, but, like, if I was going to do surgery, like, obviously, yeah, I would want to do some more experience with that.

Hey, primary care is hard.

It is.

Well, primary care is hard because it's so broad that, like, you know, it would be hard to know, like, all of the different things. But again, you know, as long as you've got good supervision with anything, you know, surgery is, like. I don't know. To me, it seems like it's so narrow that, like, I don't know that you really need. I think you need more for primary care, in my opinion. That's my hot take.

Yeah, I could definitely see that, though. I mean, just from the experiences with so many different things that we've seen here at the office in just the short amount of time of a year, like, it's been a lot of different things.

There's a huge variety. Yeah, you just. You never know what's coming in the door. But that's what. For PAs, working with, like, a surgeon, it is helpful because, like, you know, there's just only X number of diagnoses that they see, and they do the same things over and over and over again, and you can get really, really good at it. Like, even you got to kind of assist with a shoulder injection today, and so you kind of, like, learn that and, you know, and you could learn to do those again, as long as you're just, like, being adequately supervised for a long time and then you know how to do it, and then you're just like, okay, now I can do it. See one, do one, teach one. Yeah. Okay, well.

Any closing thoughts?

Closing thoughts. I think this was a fairly good debut. Little. Little taste of what's to come.

Exactly.

Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Just go through the.

Yes. No. We would love to have you back to talk more about, like, The PA thing, especially when you're more in it and all of that.

Well, yeah, actually, just for that, tell us where you are in the application process.

Yeah, definitely. So I'm in the thick of it right now. The application opens on the 25th of April, so I applied once already a couple years ago, and then I got to do this for a year OR2 with Dr. Davis, so gain that more experience. So I have that application still. So that helps a lot to kind of build on that. Not just start from scratch, But I'm studying to take the GRE again, which is not fun, but it's coming along. It's nothing like taking the mcat, I'm sure. So I can't complain too much. But, yeah, definitely looking into those schools. I have a list of 12 schools I think that I want to apply to right now. I've narrowed it down a bit, and that's really all over, too. I'm trying to get as many opportunities as I can, but, yeah, it's going well. It's stressful.

But you worked on your personal statement and you're kind of done with that, right?

Yes, that is. I did actually just send it to someone else to read again. I had you read it, which was great.

I thought it was great.

Some good feedback. But, yeah, it's coming together. It's definitely. I'm seeing that light at the end of day, the tunnel.

So, yeah. Yeah, that's good. Well, yes, we'll have to get updates.

Yes, we'll do anything to plug Instagram.

Lilyward11. That's pretty much it.

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