STEPH HAS EXCITING NEWS!!

So we have some exciting news.

Exciting news.

This is the reaction when I told my mom this exciting news. This happened last Friday.

So listen to this, everybody. Okay.

Hi, everybody, and welcome to Generations md, our podcast. My name is Stephanie Davis, and I'm joined here by My colleague, Dr. Sarah Davis, also known as my mother. Welcome, everybody.

Thanks for listening.

Welcome back. Hope. Hopefully everyone had a lovely Thanksgiving. We sure did.

Yes, we did. We had a great time. Got the whole family together, and it was lovely.

Yeah, we do a big, whole thing for Thanksgiving. We had, like, 20 people. It's very overwhelming for my mom here, but she did a great job.

Aw, thank you. Thank you. We did. It's just a lovely. Thanksgiving's a great holiday. Don't have to worry about all the presents and all of that stuff, but it's just all about family and getting together and everybody helping out and cooking a big meal, and it's just. It's. It's really great. It's always so chaotic.

Every year in our household, I feel like nothing went too bad. Oh, except our oven didn't work.

Yeah, we didn't have a working oven, but we luckily had some good friends who let us use their oven. Their house was four minutes away from ours, so we just went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth to taking a raw turkey over there, Going back to check and. But, you know, that's just a little bit more adventure and makes for a good story.

So we have some exciting news.

Exciting news.

This is the reaction when I told my mom this exciting news. This happened last Friday.

So listen to this, everybody. Am I in trouble? Just cup said. Okay, Okay.

I need to explain.

Okay.

I got into KU Med.

How long have you known?

I just got a call or I.

Got an email on the way here. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. I did it. I got the middle. Congratulations. I'm gonna be a doctor. Oh, my gosh. Paul, do you just feel like a weight, like, off of you?

Yes.

Oh, my gosh. And how long is dad knowing? Dad's been known?

For a while.

Oh, my gosh. He can cut it. Yeah. So that's. My only bitterness is that she told her dad before I knew. So, yeah, I got into medical school.

So, yes, I can finally officially say that I'm gonna be a doctor.

That's it. It is. It's. So now really, this makes more sense. Calling it Generations MD Podcast, because we know for sure, for sure she's gonna be a doctor.

Yes. So very exciting. I was actually toured a medical School on that Friday, and I was driving back home from Houston and then I got the email at like 4:30 on Friday and I was driving in the car with my dad and I was like, oh, my goodness. So then we waited to tell my mom until we got back so we could see the reaction. Had to video it for the pod. If you want to see the full video, then look it up on TikTok generation someday.

It'll be there. Yeah. So that I kind of want to just ask you, like, so, you know. So now this is big. This has been sitting with you for like, oh, a little over a week. I mean, how do you feel?

I feel so good. Like, I feel like a weight is just lifted on my. Off my shoulder. Like, I just feel so much more relaxed.

It feels.

It feels really good. I was scared that I was gonna finally get the thing and then not feel satisfied because I've been working for this for so long. So long. But I do. I feel satisfied. I feel like I deserve it. I worked really hard to get here and yeah, did.

The work paid off. It's very validating. Now there may be some listeners who are in the application process and have not gotten good news because I experienced this a little bit before this happened to Stephanie, where I would see other people getting good news. And while I was so happy for those people, it's very hard not to feel like a little pang of jealousy when, you know, when you see that happening to somebody else. Because you just want it for you if you're one of those people. You know, I just kind of want to validate your feelings on that. It's okay to, you know, be wanting that for yourself as well, even though you're happy for other people. But what would you. Do you have any kind of words of advice for people who are in that process? Wait, I forgot.

I have. I got a fortune cookie a couple weeks ago and it said patience is the principal component of faith. And I have it on my. In my car, on my dashboard.

Okay, so you just kind of get in your car and you remember that.

Yeah, no, I mean, like, so much easier said than done. It's not easy and it sucks. And waiting sucks. And yeah, there's nothing that you can do to make it better.

I will remind people, though, that this is still very early in the process to be hearing these results. Most people have not. Most people in the cycle have not gotten an acceptance at this point in the year. So if you are somebody who is still waiting for those. Those, you know, for that to happen, to you. Please don't feel like you're behind or like everybody else has gotten in except for me. They're still. There's still lots and lots of time. I mean, it's only. What is it? It's still. It's the end of November. I mean, people. People get accepted all the way up until like July. Yeah. So.

But waiting is terrible. And that. I validate that it's awful.

Yeah. Well. So now let me ask you is now again, if. If there's. If no more acceptances come, that's perfectly fine. No complaints on any of that. But if you are lucky enough to get to choose, what factors are you going to use to decide where you would go to medical school?

I. Everywhere that I applied and I interviewed, I would be very happy to go to.

That's the politically correct answer.

But not trying to be a politician here. I guess. I. Location is big for me, so I guess that. And just vicinity to home. So I did realize that I actually do want to be closer.

That's me. That's where.

But I mean. And then just like I don't. I kind of would want to go to maybe a bigger school. Like, so I got into KU and it is like a pretty big school. So I kind of like that. I don't feel like I'm somebody who will get lost in the mix. I feel like I'm somebody who is able to kind of stand up for myself and use the resources that are provided to me. I'm not. I went to a big undergraduate and I was still able to utilize the resources of my professors and be able to get research and be able to go out of my way to find the opportunities that I wanted and be able to utilize the opportunities that a big school gives you. I think that people, some people that aren't necessarily like that and they kind of need to be handed those and more catered to and I don't necessarily think that I need that. Not that it wouldn't be helpful, but. Yeah, I guess. I don't know, you'll all end up in the same spot. So.

Yeah. Well, so a couple of things that I was thinking about the fact that, okay, so a lot of med schools don't do grades anymore, but some still do. Is that correct?

Yeah, so that is something that goes into it. So most schools are pass fail, but some schools do like fail pass, high.

Pass and honors, which basically just equals A, B, C, D. But the thing.

Is, is that those aren't on a scale.

Oh, okay.

So you aren't graded Based on other people. So, like 100% of the class could get honors.

Okay, so.

So that makes it better. So you're not competing against people. So they're kind of like taking away that competitive nature of things. But I don't know, they try to argue that you're not going to be affected if you just have passes, because another school that just has pass fail, they'll also just have passes. But I don't know, if I was a residency person and I was looking at that, then I'd be like, okay, clearly they got one high pass, but the rest are passed. So they were barely making the cusp on all of that rather than somebody else. When you don't know if it was just pass or fail. Yeah, so I don't know. I. They're saying that it can only help you. It can't really hurt you. I don't. I'm. When I get there, I'm just trying to pass, honestly. So C equals md So I don't really. I don't know, just something that's going to make it less competitive would be helpful. And some schools specifically say that they don't rank. And when they send a dean's letter, then they don't rank. So that's the thing about those schools that have the honors and high pass and pass and fail. They say, we have this and we don't rank. But some schools that actually have pass fail, they still do rank. Okay, so you still are competing against your classes. They just don't tell you, oh, God, I don't know. But at the same time, I think that there's pros and cons to all of it. I. Now after talking to some of the schools that have the graded system, it does seem like it's a little bit better because now since they made step one pass fail, now everything is on step two. So rather than just having one score be your whole thing, then you can be like, hey, I got high pass. I got honors on these certain things, so I can stand out more from all of those grades rather than just step two.

Yeah, just explaining that briefly. That's. Those are these boards that you have to take. Step one, you take at the end of your second year. Step two, you take at the end of your third. Third year. Right. At the end of third year. Yeah, after you've done your major rotations, but not like you'll still have elective rotations during your fourth year, but the kind of. The big ones are all third year. And so it used to be that both of Those things had percentiles and ranks on how you did compared to everybody else in the country. And now they've taken that away for step one. So that, But I have heard that, that if it's all pass fail, that you have a whole lot riding on step two. Although I would say that if you don't plan on going into one of the really competitive specialties, it's not, you know, it doesn't matter that much. And at that point, you would know what specialty you want to go into. When you first start med school, you don't know what you want to do. And so you think, well, if I want to be an ophthalmologist, I'm going to have to just, you know, study really hard and do really well all the time. But by the time you get to the end of your third year and you don't want to be an ophthalmologist, you could just, you know, kind of coast.

I guess I, the biggest factor when I'm looking at a medical school is I just don't want to go somewhere that's super cutthroat and I don't want to go somewhere that's really competitive and people are just trying to. Again, what we talked about last time about pushing people down. Like, I want to go to a school that has a good environment and I think all the schools that I've interviewed at have that. So I'm not too concerned about ending up somewhere like that. But just going back to the grade thing, I don't think that that is a great determinant on the culture of the school.

School. Okay. So it's more of like the culture rather than whether or not they have grades.

Yeah.

The. Yeah. I was going to ask you. There's a couple other factors, you know, or things like cost of medical school.

Yeah. And the. So out of state versus in state. When you get into the nitty gritty of the. In state schools, it seems like a lot of those are pretty comparable.

I mean, I hear people say that they look at the match rankings of different schools to help them decide which school would be a better fit. Do you look at.

I feel like they all are either 90 plus, I don't think.

Yeah. I mean, but sometimes it's going into certain specialties.

I don't know. I think I'm going to do primary care, so I don't know.

So then, I mean, I think that's good. And I think that that's.

I, I'm.

I, he. I see conversations where people are like, wow, they match this many people into this thing. I'm like, well, yeah, but that's maybe just because they happen to have a program there that's really, you know, dedicated to neurosurgery. And that's why they had so many people go into neuro. So many people match into neurosurgery. That doesn't necessarily mean that the whole medical school is a better medical school just because they had that many people match into some of these highly competitive specialties.

So.

And again, all those statistics, I just think you always have to take those things with a grain of salt. You know, sometimes they say, oh, I saw somebody say, well, this one had a bunch of people go into primary care. So that means, you know, they didn't. They couldn't match into the higher specialties. I was like, no, maybe they just had a real focus on primary care. And that's why people were going into that.

So I guess I did ask some people who are current med students what they wish they would have considered looking back what something that their school has or doesn't have that they wish that they did or didn't have. And like, they didn't really think about that when looking at a medical school. And one thing that somebody said was and MDME exams.

So I don't know what that is.

So, like, schools can either do professor written exams or they can use like the US MLE exams. So, like, the shelf exams are exams that then prepare you for step one. So as you're studying and as you're taking these tests, then you are studying for step one. So it's so, you know, kind of like always studying, like you're gonna be taking MCAT type questions through undergrad.

Okay.

So, so there's pros and cons to that. Pros is that you understand how this test is gonna be written. Cons is that you can't see if you got your answers right or wrong. Oh, yeah.

Oh.

So I mean, to me, I feel like the best thing that there could be is a mix of that is some professor written and then some of those shelf exams.

And I can't remember if I said this before, but what they say is you study two months for step one, two weeks for step two, and bring a number two pencil to step three. That's probably different.

It's a little different because step two is now.

Now it's a bigger deal. It's a bigger deal, yeah. Step three, you take after your internship, so after your first year of residency and you know, what are they going to do to you at that point, nothing. I mean, you just got to pass. Otherwise, I mean, nobody's going to kick you out of your residency program for like not scoring high on that test. Just remember, number two pencil probably, it's probably online now. I don't even know if people know what a number two pencil is. But anyway. Yeah, so. So anyway, so it seems like obviously cost is a factor, so the city is a factor. And then kind of the general vibe, I would say, of the class makeup. You don't want to be with all gunners, you just want to be the only gunner there. No.

In your medical education, is there anything that certain that you wish that the school had or you wish they did differently or.

Yeah, and I don't have a lot to compare it to, you know, unlike undergrad, where then you, I don't know, you. You're talking with your friends about different things and of course you get to medical school and then you compare different people's undergrads. Didn't really have anything to compare it to from other people who went to medical school other places.

Like in residency, though.

I don't know. We weren't really chit chatting in residency, I guess. I mean, I didn't feel like. Yeah, no, I thought that everything was pretty similar. The only differences I saw, some people from different medical schools had had more exposure to like drawing blood and doing some of those, you know, those skills. Some people learned that more in medical school than other people did. But then everybody learns it once you get there. My only really complaint, I don't have any complaints about the first two years. I mean, it's just a bunch of book learning. I don't think that's really different in different places. But during the rotations, some of those could be really pretty toxic. Surgery in particular, I thought was very, very toxic. People were just. The surgeons were just super mean and treated you like you were the gum on the bottom of their shoe, which was just extremely unnecessary, in my opinion. I don't know if it's like that everywhere or not. And I really, really hope that that is better now. But I mean, I still have. I still have kind of a lot of animosity towards some of those awful surgeons. Then I wrote in my. They asked for your review at the end and I just shredded everybody. And then I signed my name to it. And then some of the surgeons told me that they actually talked about it afterwards and I was like, wow, we've really p. Some of these students in particular, Sarah Blanc. But they seem to actually be concerned, which is nice. I don't know that anything changed, but actually you do a three month rotation. Usually you do two months of general surgery and then one month of a specialty surgery. And so my specialty surgery was neurosurgery. And the neurosurgeons were actually the nicest people, which doesn't. This seems like a little counterintuitive, but in my review I said, except for the neurosurgeons, blah, blah, blah, blah. And everything I said was like, and this was terrible. And this was terrible. Except for the neurosurgeons. So anyway, that was really my only complaint about those rotations is that, you know, especially in a really big medical center, there's, you have fellows, you have residents, you have other medical students. And sometimes you just feel like you are at the bottom of the totem pole. And so that's why some of these programs, if they, if they are a little bit smaller program and if they're at more of the community hospitals, that sometimes can be a better experience for the medical student because it might be just be. Well, like you had that experience with some of your shadowing where it was just you and you know, and the attending walking around seeing stuff together, which, I mean, I don't like. I would never get to talk to the attending. They're like the big boss. And then the, it's like it works its way down. The attending talks to the fellow who talks to the chief resident, who talks to the second year resident who talks to the intern who then talks to you as a medical student.

And I mean, I wasn't even in small clinics there. Like I was in like big tertiary care hospitals.

Yeah.

So I don't, I don't really know. And that is a good point in the sense of like, like I did tour a big massive school and you have so many opportunities. But yeah, I, you are kind of at the end of the totem pole there.

Yeah.

So I mean, I mean, it just.

Depends on how they do it. You know, are all those people with all those things and you know, there's just a lot of different factors and.

That is what some people said and I have asked students about that who go to bigger schools is like, okay, do you feel like you're a small fish in a big pond and they claim that since it's so big, then there are, there is room for everybody.

Yeah.

But I don't know.

So maybe it's hard to maybe check that.

Yeah, true. Maybe I, I don't know, maybe a small school is better. Maybe I changed my mind. I don't know. I don't know.

Well, you know, that's true. The. And. And. And that very well could be the case. I mean, if it's a big enough place, there is plenty of room for everybody. Just like, thinking back of my own experiences on our. Like, on our OB rotation, there weren't a lot of patients there. Even though it was big tertiary care center, there weren't really enough OB patients for all of the different people that needed to get their training. So we had a lot of students kind of just sitting around, and then we didn't get to catch as many babies as they did at other places. But I've heard it can be very, very different in other places where it's super busy, there's tons of babies being born. Just walk down the hall, catch a baby. So, you know, that's. Anyway, that's. It's a fantastic position to be in to potentially get to choose. Or maybe not. Yeah.

I don't know. Honestly, at the end of the day, I would be really content with any of the schools I interviewed at.

Yeah. I think there's a lot of stuff that you just can't possibly know.

Yeah. There's gonna be pros and cons to every place. That was the same thing with choosing an undergrad is there's always pros and cons.

Yeah. Yeah. And you kind of don't know until you get the end. And then you're like, oh, that maybe would have been better. But I really liked all these things. Thanks.

And it seems like a kind of pretentious conversation to be talking about, like, choosing a medical school.

I had to just delete this whole. Yeah.

Because, like, I only got into one. But. And that's what I've been telling people when I've been like, oh, like, I got into medical school. And some people get it and they're like, oh, my goodness, that is amazing. Like, awesome. Some people like, oh, like, where are you gonna go? Are you gonna go there or somewhere else? And I'm like, I just.

I got in. Right, right. You didn't understand how. What a big deal this is. It's not like college, where it's like.

If you want to get into a college, you can get into a college.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, really, Even. Even people who have just amazing statistics and, you know, everything under the sun, and you'd think every single school will want this person, and it just. Nobody gets, like, 20 acceptances to medical school.

Yeah. It just does not happen.

You know, somebody really fantastic. If somebody got like, four or five acceptances. That would be just like in the 99th percentile, I think.

Yeah, definitely.

The big barrier is getting in. That's. And then after that, all you do is you just get on the treadmill and you just do what they tell you to do. Anybody who gets into medical school has the ability to pass all of these exams to do. To do the work. I mean, they know that there's. There's just no question about that. That's kind of why that process is so difficult or such a big barrier. Once. Once you're there, you can do it. Obviously you got to do the work, but you know, you've already do you.

Feel like it's got. It got better. Like from undergrad to medical school.

Yeah. I mean, in some ways, you know, there is more work in the classes that you take, but I didn't, I didn't think that they were any harder than anything. In fact, some of them were not as hard as some of the classes I had in undergrad. You know, probably more information coming at you, but as long as you just keep up with it, Lots of memorization in med school, which is, you know, not that hard to do. And in med school, you don't have to do a bunch of volunteer hours and all these other things.

This kind of changed because of the whole pass fail and the whole pass fail step one thing.

But now you gotta do a bunch of volunteers and you have to do.

Research and you have to do this stuff in order to get residency placement. Yeah. Because now you can't. You can't just do home beer brewing. On her residency application, one of her hobbies was home beer brewing.

And let me tell you, every single place I interviewed asked me about this.

If you're wanting to residency right now, then maybe throw that in.

Take up home beer brewing. They loved. Involved a little chemistry. And you had to use microbiome. Yeah. Aseptic technique. You don't want to get any of those wild yeast in there. They'll change the flavor of your beer. So, yeah, home beer brewing, it's a great hobby.

You can't just do that anymore. You gotta do a bunch of other stuff.

Well, that's ridiculous. I mean, who has time for that?

I don't know.

Somebody. I saw something that said you weren't allowed to have a job during med school. That's what somebody claimed on some sort of Facebook forum that I was on.

I caught her on Student doctor Network.

I just got on there briefly. Very, very briefly.

I looked over at her laptop and there she is checking to see got accepted certain places.

I was like, mom, you're one of those people. It's like, I don't know if any parents out there got on College Confidential when their kids were applying. That takes you down a dark rabbit hole. You should never, ever look at those things because they always. There's always some post about somebody who was like the valedictorian of this prestigious high school and had a perfect SAT and didn't get into any of the schools that they wanted, and then you're just like, oh, my God, everything's gonna be terrible.

So, yeah, don't do it. And stay off Reddit. And if you're prepping for the MCAT right now, Reddit can have a couple of helpful things. And, like, the memes are funny, but other than that, stay off Reddit. Stay off Reddit because you're gonna see so many people on there that. And they could be lying. Okay? They could totally be lying. They'll be like, I. This was my study schedule. I studied for three weeks and I got a 528. Like, this is how I did it. And they're lying. They're lying.

They're.

Yeah, it's not true. Like, don't. And then you kind of get in your head if there's only the people who post that got the super high scores and the people who got the super low scores, and there's no one who just said that they're somewhere in the middle. Like, don't. Just don't look at it.

Just don't do it, man. Stay off of there. That'll just drag you down. But, yeah, I think all those, all those things you think you get on there because you think it's gonna make you feel better or you're gonna get some useful information, and sometimes you do. I only checked Student Doctor Network because I wanted to see, like, if certain schools had released acceptances yet, because I'm certainly not at that time. I wasn't going to ask Stephanie. You know, you can't ever ask your, you know, your kid, oh, have you heard from this school? Obviously they're going to let you know if they've heard from that school, but I just wanted to see if anybody had. And, you know, word was nobody else had heard either.

So. Okay, whatever. Yeah, now, I mean, like, after, I don't have to worry about. I like that. Just constantly checking your email whenever it rings and all of that. Just like, that anxiety, it. I don't feel it anymore. It's gone.

It's gone. It's gone. Nice. Nice. Are you sleeping better?

Yes, I am. Except I've been having really bad nightmares the past two nights.

Oh, no.

I've been. I woke myself up the other day because I woke up and I was.

Like, this is ridiculous. You said that out loud, and it woke me up. Do you know what you thought was ridiculous? I don't know.

You were probably doing something.

I was probably. I'm always doing something mean in all of your dreams for some reason.

Yeah. So I don't really know.

I use all my meanness in your dreams.

Yeah.

Oh, okay, wait. I do have one more question. Back to this. Okay, I read somewhere.

Student Doctor Network.

So, in general, once you've submitted all your applications and you're waiting to hear if you get an interview somewhere, you're not supposed to, like, contact them again and say, oh, I have some updates, because they don't really want to hear from you. Like, they're.

Wait, contact who the school got into?

Like, no, no, no. These are schools that you haven't gotten an interview from yet. Like, so they have all your stuff and they haven't. They haven't invited you for an interview, but they haven't rejected you. You're just kind of like, in. You know, maybe still in the pool. Maybe they're still gonna offer you an interview. You don't really know. And, you know, most the conventional wisdom seems to be like, well, don't pester them. But I saw this one person who said that their kid did send out, like, a. An update of what they had been doing during their gap year or whatever, and that then they actually got some interviews after doing that. What are your thoughts on that? And would you consider contacting any of those schools?

I've uploaded an update.

Oh, you have?

Because. Because I got a study published after I had submitted my application, so I feel like that was valid.

That's valid.

I have another publication. Here you go. I don't know if any of the schools that I sent that update to ended up giving me an interview. Maybe they did, but I don't think I would have not gotten an interview anyway. Right. I don't think. I don't think it makes a difference either way. I think it won't hurt. Don't do it more than once. That's what I would say. Like, and don't email them. Just there's a. There's a tab on your application that you can make updates.

Okay.

And if you have, like, a valid thing, like a publication or you've been volunteering somewhere for a Couple months or, like, something. I don't think it would hurt to be like, hi, here is this. I'm sharing this information because of my genuine interest in your school. And I feel like that wouldn't hurt you, but if you're constantly spamming them.

Then you don't want to be pestering them. But I'm just thinking of, like, a person who maybe didn't have a lot of clinical hours or they feel like that was maybe the weakest link of their application and that they wanted, like, upload something and say, hey, now I have all these clinical hours. Like, maybe that would make the difference for them to get an interview.

I sent my publication for my. Because I didn't update it before I interviewed at ku, but then after my. They said, if you have updates to your application, please email us after your interview. And I sent them an email and I was like, just a thank you for interviewing, whatever. And here's one update that I have, and it was my publication. Then I got in.

So then she got in. So.

Okay, correlation equals causation, Right? Oh, well, okay. Yeah. So I got this burn during Thanksgiving, and it made me think about in, like, fifth grade. I had to do this presentation with a group, and they gave us, like, a case, and then they made us, like, use the Internet and try to solve it. And we had burn. It was something about a third degree burn. And then you and, like, some other doctors came in as we, like, presented our case. And you had.

We were invited. Yeah. And you had to, like, grade us.

Do you remember this?

We didn't actually grade you. We just gave a little bit of feedback.

I remember you guys were, like, kind of harsh, though.

I was not harsh. No, I remember you.

Like, I was like, oh, my God, my mom is grading me. Like, and you were, like, kind of, like, intense about it.

I think your memory is.

Did you give me a bad grade? I don't even remember.

Yeah, I failed you.

I failed the fourth grade because.

Yeah, it was in. That. It was in your science class. Yeah. And the. Yeah, the teacher had invited several of us doctors to come and. And, well, the main reason she wanted us there was to ask questions. So you guys, like, presented your case and then we asked questions there One time. You guys ended up doing, like, a whole drama. Like, there was, like. You did, like, a play.

Oh, I think we had to act out some sort of something.

Yeah. Like, somebody was burned and then they died. And then you were, like, acting out some sort of funeral scene. It got really. It got really out of hand. I think the teacher had to be like, okay, it's time to wrap this up.

Wait, now it's kind of coming back.

To me a little bit.

And I think we got called out. It was a little bit inappropriate.

I'm just speculating that you might have been the driving force behind that whole thing. It's like, yeah, I probably put more.

Effort into just the drama.

The drama kind of got away from, like, the treatment of the burn and all that. But I remember this one kid. This wasn't your year. It was a different year. And he. That. Oh, he had, like. They had, like, stroke or something. And then we said, well, you know, what are some of the causes of stroke? And he rattled off all the causes of stroke. And then he said something about high blood pressure. And so then we asked him a question about high blood pressure, and he's like, oh, yes. High blood pressure is known as the same silent killer. And he went on. I mean, I was like, oh, my God. You. I was like, you know more than like, 99% of my patients about this. It was. It was really impressive. But, yeah, the.

I went on to be a doctor in this kid.

I don't know what happened to that kid. I don't know. We had to find out. Bring him on the pod. Yeah, maybe he peaked too early.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. See, I was on the up.

Yeah, you were on the upper. Kept going up. Hopefully you're still headed up.

Yep. Who knows?

We need some listener questions.

Yeah, we do need some listener questions.

So, you know, send us your questions so that we can. We can answer them.

Yes. All right, well, thanks for listening, everybody.

Thanks for listening, and congratulations to Stephanie. Woo.

Bye. Bye.

Sa.