Ray Catania argues a dualist view: the mind (or spirit/soul/consciousness) is detachable from the body and persists after bodily death. He supports this claim with a childhood anecdote about long periods of isolation—staring at a wall—and noticing the underlying "energy" of objects once man-made components are mentally stripped away.
I think it's a defense mechanism that's kind of built into all of us. But the thing about this is, is that the mind and the body are detachable and they always will be detachable as like when we die, the mind is what's going to carry on. You can call it a spirit or a soul or consciousness or what have you, but that's what lives on when the body dies. Going back to my childhood because I spent a lot of time in isolation. I would stare at a wall. We didn't have cell phones or computers. I just would be in an imag and I would start to notice things that we take for granted, like not just the fact that it's a wall or that it's white or that it's this or that. Strip away the man made components of that wall and you start to see the energy in the wall. And, you know, that didn't scare me because I was just a kid and I thought everybody knew this, you know.
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