Rita Hogan & Canine Herbalist - Pet Podcast

Hello, dear friends. Hi.

Hi, world.

I hope you're doing well and I'm so excited about today's episode because I don't know about you, but I am a true believer that going organic, going organic, using herbs can be very beneficial for our fur babies. And I wish there are a lot of information up there, but today, you and I, we are very lucky. But because we have the professional, we have Rita Hagen. She's very well known worldwide and she helps pet professionals, she helps pet parents and so many other people around the world to know more about how they can use the herbs. She's clinical canine specialist. She has an amazing portfolio. She helps in so many different ways. And that's what we are going to learn more. But without further ado, I want to welcome Rita. So thank you so very much for being with us today.

Thank you so much. I'm super excited to be here. Super excited to be here.

Believe me. Me too. So can you tell I was very, very impressed and so grateful that you said, yes, Vasi, how you come to, you know, Pet Pix World show. And as I mentioned to you, I. So the interview you did with Poppy Phillips and you said, yes, I will come back to your show, but can you explain to us a little more of what you do? Because I'm sure there are other people like me who don't know too much about herbs and how beneficial they can be for fur babies.

I am a clinical canine herbalist. I do some work with cats, but I mainly focus on dogs. I've been doing this for over 20 years. And so what I do is I help pet parents work with their dogs with herbs and help balance out chronic disease, chronic imbalances in the body that manifest in disease. I'm not a doctor. I don't treat disease or what I do is I use herbs to intelligently balance out certain types of, well, imbalances like kidney, liver, digestion, sometimes in the head, where you have cognitive or dementia. Cognitive issues or dementia in your pup or arthritis and movement issues, urination, you know, going potty, things like that. A lot of people contact me after they haven't had very good luck with, like, veterinary care that, you know, the veterinarian that they're seeing isn't, isn't. Can't offer them anything that can help them. And so that's where an herbalist might step in.

Very, very interesting. You know, what you do and, and, and he's just like the approach you have. And so, like, doesn't matter the age of the fur, baby of the Doggies, you know, if they're puppies or they are little older or pretty much, it depends of the personality and the health situation of the fur baby.

Yes. So I can help almost everyone. You know, it depends on, you know, if a dog has diabetes, I can't help if a dog has, like, very severe cardiac issues, I'm limited, but like, you know, congested heart failure, I'm limited with that. Other than that, I can support the body in almost any type of condition. So, you know, puppies up to very geriatric dogs. Yeah. And lots of. I have lots of geriatric patients, lots of older, older dogs and. And then quite a few really, really young dogs, too. So anything in between. And it's just such a great. It is just a wonderful. I think it's a wonderful career because I, I get to see all these wonderful creatures and happy pet parents when their dog starts feeling better. And a lot of, you know, again, I get a lot of people when they're at the point of severe frustration and a lot of times sadness that they can't find a way to help their puppy. So it's very rewarding, I am sure.

I'm sure it's rewarding and it's very interesting to me. I told you, I find it very fascinating. I'm always true believer that there are different alternative ways, more on the healthy side, how you can help and support your fur baby. And I also want to ask you, especially now with winter coming up, you know, for most of the countries, especially our followers, are there kind of typical symptoms or typical things people might experience?

Yes. So, you know, for, for this hemisphere, we are coming into winter. Like Australia, they're coming into spring, but we're coming into winter. We're coming into fall and winter. And when you step out of summer, the summer energies and you go into fall, you want to look for issues with the lungs and the large intestine. You might have some diarrhea or constipation. You might have some breathing issues or more hacking or it depends on what your dog. If your dog already has some weakness in the lungs. And then when you go into winter, winter really rules the kidneys. So you'll see more like leg injuries. You might see more urinary tract infections, definitely bladder weakness, incontinence. So these are things that kind of happen in wintertime. But the good thing about it is that it's the perfect time to work with those conditions to support those organs. So you support the lungs and the large intestine in the fall, and you Support the kidneys in the wintertime. So it kind of can go either way. So anyone can benefit from working with herbs during that time.

Wonderful, wonderful. That's really great to know that people, they know what to expect on average and that this is really the right time to be able in peace and quiet to fix it. And also kind of especially with Thanksgiving and with the holiday season and when we have most likely some guests coming over and as we know, they like to feed our four babies under the table without you knowing, are they maybe couple of tips or pointers you can give to people.

Yeah, I think one of the one. A couple of things that you can do and have kind of have on hand. So if there. If you're looking like for a commercial product, I guess one of the products I would have on hand is a product from the adored beast pothecary called Gut Soothe, which helps when, you know, the gut is when your dog's or cat's stomach is upset from eating something they shouldn't have. That's a good one for an individual herb, possibly marshmallow root or slippery elm. Have that on hand because you can make like a kind of a lukewarm tea and it forms kind of like a gel consistency and you can give that to your dog to help their tummies feel better. There's also a homeopathic remedy called Arsenica album and that would be homeopathic remedies have potencies. And so you would use what's called a 30C and you give one dose and it. Oh my God, it helps so much if your stomach is hurting from eating something you shouldn't have or if your dog or cat is very. Have a very upset stomach and might possibly be vomiting. That one I always have on hand. Another homeopathic remedy that I love is called Nux vomica. It's a weird name, right? It is Nux vomica. N U X V O M I c a nux vomica 30C. Again, one dose and then you kind of wait to see if everything kind of clears up. Those two are really great to have on hand for Thanksgiving for sure. But you know, the biggest thing for me, it's nothing to do with herbalism is anyone who comes into my house during Thanksgiving, I. I give them a stern look like, do not feed my dogs under the table. And I also don't give my dogs access to the Thanksgiving table. I tend to put a gate off a gate off the living room. And they go in the living room and we have our dinner we clean it up and then they have access, you know, and I always save them something from dinner so they know that, like, you're, you know, just behave and you, you know, it's like, behave and you'll get a treat. And so. But I don't give them access to the Thanksgiving table. One time when I used to do kennel free boarding, I really got my start doing kennel free boarding in the hill. Well, they're mountains, but hills in Tennessee. And we were boarding. God, I think we were boarding like 35 dogs at the time. Wow. Running around the house. And we had Thanksgiving dinner and everyone was being hate. But I took my eyes off the prize for a minute. And this dog had the entire turkey carcass in its mouth. And it was growling. It was in the corner and it was guarding its prize. It was like. And you know what I just told him? I said, listen, you're giving that back. You know, you are giving that back, and one way or another, I'm getting it because we're not going to the vet. And I grabbed that sucker and pulled it away from him. It was so weird because it was slippery, you know, and, oh, my God, he was just so devastated. He was like, but it was mine. But it was mine. And, you know, so I don't tend to let dogs be underneath the table during Thanksgiving because there's so many things that they could get in trouble. And a lot of people don't realize that they can't have cooked bones, you know, and so they'll drop something with bones in it, and then all of a sudden, you know, you're running to the vet. But I can say that if a dog does get a cooked bone, what you do is you make up the slippery elm or the marshmallow root kind of slurry. It'll get kind of jellish. And you just syringe that in the mouth and it will coat the. The gastrointestinal tract and help that the bone. It will coat the bone as well, and it'll help it, you know, slip out, which is really important because the bones can. They can cause injury to internal organs.

Oh, I can. I'm sure, I'm sure. You know, especially if they're sharp. Oh, my God. I can imagine.

Bones are very brittle. So it. You don't want it to. You don't want it to harm the gastrointestinal tract.

No, for sure, for sure. And I want to ask you. So you mentioned my doggies. So how many doggies do you have? How many fur babies do you have?

Well, I have five, so I have a 12 pound pug named Fig. I have a probably like a 19 pound pug named Ronan. I have a 50 pound basset hound, she's probably 55 pounds. Her name's Lola. And then I have a 65 pound bulldog named Gertie. And then I have a 50 pound bulldog named Wheezy.

Oh my God. You probably need sooner a bigger house with so many.

My house is not small, so definitely not small. It's one of those. It's a single story, but it's kind of long and they have a lot of room to run around. And I have a huge yard and they go for. They go for a walk in the forest. Every day we go for a walk and we have lots of like really nearby walking paths and parks and stuff. But my little bulldog, Wheezy doesn't really like to go anywhere. She's very strange little dog. She's very much a couch potato. We're trying to work with her vitality and nervous system because like, for instance, yesterday, and this happens a lot. So I'll tell you what kind of herb would be good for this.

Thank you.

Yesterday we brought her to the ocean, a park called Priest Point. And she was running in the water. She was having such a great time. And then one of the boats that was like far off made like a low kind of like boom. Noise. Noise, noise. I don't know what they were doing, but they made just like this low boom. And that was it. It was like someone switched off a switch and she was running back the way that we came, only the way that we came. We couldn't go any other way. She was going back the way she came to the car and she was on leash. But you know, she's super strong and I don't really, you know, I'm not a big one on putting anything that's going to constrict her movement. So you know, she just has a basic little harness on that she was just ready to go. She was like, I am a bag of cement and I am running. And so. And because she's little, but she's so heavy and, and if she was done and. And the thing is with her is that she'll never go back there again.

Yes.

So we are working with her nervous system because this happens a lot. It started off with fireworks and our neighbors when we lived in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It started off with that and all my partner lived there. I didn't live there, but it started off with those types of noises. And then it just has consistently gotten worse. And that usually comes from kidneys. Okay, so we're coming up into the perfect time to do a lot of intensive work with Weezy so that in the spring, she's not afraid of every noise because it really is a hindrance for her life and it's a hindrance for ours. You know, like, we take all the dogs for a walk, and we have to leave Weezy behind, but she doesn't even get off the couch. She's like, yeah, I'm not doing it. But it's only because she's afraid. So working with fear, a lot of times, fear is seated in the kidneys. It's very traditional Chinese medicine concept there. It's seated in the kidneys. But it's so true when you start to support the kidneys, that fear starts to dissipate. So I use a mixture of skull cap, which. There's many skull caps out there, but this is latifloria scolateria, latifloria skullcap, and then nettle seed. So those two together are such a great combination for fear and for dealing with the kidney and relaxing the nervous system. There's many, many other remedies like milky oats and fig gem therapy. I mean, I could go on for. We could do an entire session on the nervous system, but actually probably five sessions. But it. Those are the two that I find work really well for dogs in combination for fear. And then we use flower essences for wheezy, like violet and marshmallow. And she's gotten so much better. Just the fact that she went to the park yesterday was phenomenal. And so. But again, someone had. Someone had to let off some type of. You know, and it's the low hums. It's not the large noises. It's the low hums, like helicopters, the boom of a firework. You know, the. The low before it goes off. It's not the. The crackle. It's those low hums. She. We live near a military base. I mean, exactly miles and miles and miles away. However, you know, it takes about 30 minutes to get there. But you. Every now and then during the week, you'll hear this just like that. Just a. You know, and they're. They're doing whatever they're doing over there. And, you know, you can hear jump off the couch and she'll come right over by you. And then she, you know, vibrating, vibrating. And I try not to make a big deal. I give her some rescue remedy, which is a flower essence blend, and that helps her Immensely. So, you know, we're just working with her. But this happens to a lot of dogs. They're afraid or reactive. Like, you know, dogs that react to every dog on the leash. That's a different set of parameters, but like different set of herbs. But I think a lot of people have these issues with their dogs being afraid of noises and, and another emotion of the kidney is worry. So. Yeah. And so what are owners doing most of the time about their dogs? They worry about them. Just consistently panic and worry and fear that something's going to happen to their dogs or they're worrying and afraid themselves, especially after just coming through this pandemic and, you know, we're still dealing with it. A lot of people are stressed out, worried, scared, fearful, and that depletes their kidney energy. And then our dogs are so much of our. Like a mirror to us where their kidneys start getting depleted because they're worrying about us. Because a lot of people don't realize this, but they can smell it. They smell fear on us. They. They like horses. Horses. Horses can smell fear. If you are fearful and super afraid, you know, don't go directly near a horse because you might scare them because they can smell your fear and. And it freaks them out. So, you know, you kind of have to work your way up to being near a horse. And it's the same with dogs. They smell it, they smell your worry, they smell your fear, and it makes them worry because they love us. They totally. I mean, you know that you have your little, little Chihuahua. You know, they, they love us and they care about us, and they, they start to worry and they start to fret and it depletes kidney energy when we worry and we're. When we're afraid. So it's kind of like it bounces back. I can't tell you how many clients I. I've seen thousands and thousands of dogs and. And I can't tell you how many owners of dogs share their dogs and the owners share the same issue just the same.

I can believe it.

I can. Heart problems. Same like they share. I have clients that have heart problems, multiple clients that have heart problems, and all of their dogs have heart problems. You know, I have clients that have nervous system issues. All of their dogs are completely nervous and kind of like on all the time. And so a lot of times I'll end up working with the person and the dog. I'm going to move back here because the sun, sun is shining. Hold on, I'm moving. Is that better?

No, it's actually.

But it was beautiful.

Now it's great. Yes.

Now my, my desk is. But so, yeah, it, it's fascinating. There's so much that we don't know, you know, there's so much that we don't know of what's going on in the background of everything, you know, so herbs really help that because herbs, they provide, I would say, intelligent intelligence in the body. They, they don't just do what you think they're doing. They do a whole bunch of other things. You know, they work out in balances. They work up with the nervous system. A lot of them work systemically, which is, you know, throughout the whole body. So I find that they can really provide support for sure.

It's amazing. And I just actually want to bring a couple of points. Very interesting. So first of all, if us as regular pet parents, we see that our fur babies are, you know, like frightened or maybe they're afraid or whatever, it's the case, you know, maybe we really should consider going a little more deep into trying to find the issue and solve it. And that's the reason why I'm so happy that you, you know, people can work with you and then you can help them with this. You have courses and, etc. So that's the first thing. And the second thing, it's. I, I mean, I, I hear it from so many professionals. And now you with the herbs. You know, we did also dog trainer. We have done so many professional, even for me as a photographer. And I know that if the pet project parent, however, they feel their fur, baby mirrors, so photography, herbs, dog training, so everything, including, you know, we have a lot of people into the pet fashion, even you walking on the Runway, friends with your fur babies. And here is the time to just remind you because all of us, we know. You said it really nicely. Life change. The past couple of years have not been the easiest. But we as pet parents have a choice to make. Are we going to give into the worries or are we going to listen to relaxing music, maybe go for a walk or just hug our babies and try to look at life in a little easier way. And this way we do goodness for us, but also for our fur babies. But it's just so fascinating, you explaining it from a, like your career, profession point of view. It's so fascinating for me. I love it.

Well, you know, and the thing is, is that I, I've experienced this firsthand. Like I. One of my first dogs was a Rottweiler. Her name was Iji. And I loved her. I got her as a puppy. I Have to admit, I knew nothing about the breed. I really was kind of attracted to how they look, you know, that. That deep black with the brown, you know, just beautiful. But I had no idea what I was getting myself into. And I. At that. I mean, I think Maybe I was 23, 23, and I'm 51 now, so it was a long time ago, but this is when I really realized that as. As pet parents, we have to be confident. You know, we have to be confident for our pets. And I. I basically took her as a puppy and turned her into a nervous wreck. Because I was a nervous wreck around her. I was, you know, she. When she was a puppy, she growled at me, and she. And I didn't know what I was doing as far as training is concerned. And she was a little on the aggressive side. And I hired a trainer, and I'm so glad that I did, but I hired a trainer, and she just basically sat down and said, this is not her problem. This is your problem. Wow. She said, you know, because she wasn't the way she was. Not anything like that with the trainer. The trainer came in, completely ignored her, sat down, you know, Itchy came over to her. Then, you know, she. She, you know, she was very sweet to Iji, but she sat down and just kind of handed it to me and said, hey, you know, this is your problem, and this is why. And I was like, oh, my God. But I did my best to kind of turn that around, but I realized I was in over my head, especially when Iji got huge. Like, she got really big. And then, you know, when I would walk her, people would cross the street. They were afraid of her. So what's really interesting is one day a man came over my house. He was this big man. He had such calm energy. His energy was so, like, easy go. Like a surfer, right? He was so easy going. And he said, and usually she would, you know, she was very protective of me. I felt very safe around her. But she sat on the couch with him and put her. Her head on his lap and just turned into this big baby, right? And I was just sitting back, just like, is happening. Like, this is crazy. I've never seen her like this, especially with men. And I was just like, this is so weird. And he kind of left my life, right? And this is just. This is such an amazing story, and it's 100% true. I had met someone else, and Itchy took their dog and shook it. And it was a little dog, it didn't hurt it, but took it and Shook it and it pooped everywhere. And we felt terrible. And I realized that I had to. I had to rehome my dog. And I was not the owner for my dog. I just knew it. I just didn't. It's just not in my nature to be that kind of, like, domineering as my personality. But what. What I realized was Iggy needed something else. And because she was mirroring my. My fear, no matter where we were, I was still on edge that she was going to grab a dog, hurt somebody, bite somebody. She hated being teased, you know, So I. I just, like, it was. I tried so hard, and I was so young. Well, I'm sitting there on a Friday night, and I get a phone call right out of the blue. This is months after I met this man. It was him. He was on the phone, and he said, I haven't been able to get your dog out of my mind. Like, all I do is think about her. And she. He said, could I come see her? And I said, sure. And he came to see her, and they were like. They were like soulmates. It was crazy. And I said, you know, he said, oh, I would just love it. This is the dog I've always wanted. And so I gave him to. I gave her to him. And she. Her best life. I got to see her all the time, but she. She was a completely different dog. She never growled at anyone. She never was upset. She was completely calm. And it. She lived until. I think she lived until she was almost 15, which is pretty old for a Rottweiler.

Yes. For her. Yes.

Yeah. And he had a paintball field. He was like. He owned a paintball field. And she went with him everywhere. In the car, at work. She was never. They were never apart. And then, you know, eons later, I get an email from him. I had moved away and telling me that she had passed away and that, you know, thank you so much. Like, I can't. Like, it was just a serendipitous moment, but it was such a testament to the energy that we put out because I. You know, I was young and afraid. And so, you know, that energy that you put out is what you're going to get back.

Wow.

And his energy was. Even when he called, like, you know, even when he called, hi, this is Joe. Like, just such a. Just really subdued, calm man and just a gentle giant, you know what I'm saying? And she loved it. That's what she needed. And I could not provide that for her. When I was 23, I mean, I was like, you Know, on sugar and, you know. But yeah, it was such a testament to, like, how we mirror. So I've taken that experience and kind of brought it into my clinical practice, which didn't start until seven years later. Wow. And also, I learned from Iji. I learned the power of fresh diet. I learned the power of food. That did wonders for her behavior. But the biggest thing was my behavior.

Wow. Powerful.

Yeah. And it was amazing. And I've seen that play out in so many. So many clients that I have. And. And I never underestimate it, because I really have dealt with it, like, straight on and after. What's funny is, after I rehomed ig, I actually started volunteering for Rottweiler rescue.

Wow.

So that I could understand the breed better and understand, like, just understand them more, because I was so confused that, you know, I. And I, you know, I dealt with, like, loss and grief by rehoming her, and I felt like a, you know, a crappy pet parent. But I actually did the best thing ever for her because my good friend was friends with him, and that's how I. That's how he actually came over to my house and. And he would tell me all the time, just the love affair that. That they had. So it was so cute.

Well, thank you so much for sharing, and I can relate. It's very powerful. We used to have three Dobermans and the meat doggy, Cindy. She never felt like part of our family. You know, the. The grandma and the granddaughter were perfect, but the mom, she was the. She was black. The other two were a brown. She just didn't fit. And then eventually I remember as much as I can remember because I was young child, my parents gave her to a very good home. They had a lot of land. She was running, she was happy, and that was the best life for her. So. But what. And this is, like, it shows you what a special person you are, but also it really brings a great point that we have to be a little more cautious around our fur babies and just really understand that. And again, friends, I know everyone is doing fantastic, but I know that there will be some new parents, you know, some new pet parents who will be questioning themselves on, am I doing good job? You know, the same like you. You know, what can I improve? And.

And, you know, edgy taught me to choose wisely.

Amazing.

You know, don't choose a dog on how it looks. You know, I was. I was just young and young and dumb and. And, you know, to choose wisely. Like, I've had probably 16 dogs since itchy. And I've never rehomed another one. Never. You know, I've never rehomed. I've. I've done some fostering, but, you know, they weren't my dogs. I was just, you know, fostering for a little bit. I'm a terrible foster because I usually end up keeping them. But, you know, it's. It. You need to choose wisely because you want to choose a dog that's good for your. Not only for your heart, but for your environment and how you live your life and how active you are. You know, if you're a set more a sedentary person or a person that is a workaholic or you know, has a lot of personal time, you don't want to go out, get it and get a Vizsla or a Weimaraner, you know, because those dogs need exercise, they need a job or, or a border collie or an Australian shepherd, you know, you want to look in to even mix, you know, mixes of those, like a mixed healer or, or border collie or Australian shepherds. A lot of those dogs will need a job. And if you don't give them one, they'll make one by destroying your home. And, you know, like, it. Iji definitely taught me to choose wisely and to figure out, okay, Bob, and if you don't give them one, they'll make one by destroying your home. And you know, like it. Iji definitely taught me to choose wisely and to figure out, okay, so what types of dogs are good for my life, you know, and of course you change, your life changes. But like at that time, and dogs are a commitment, you know, they lived 15 years, right? I got her when I was 23, so that I would be 33, almost 38 years old. That's a commitment. So you really, like, if you don't have a dog or you're getting another one, just make sure that that, that breed or that breed mix. I love mixed dogs. They're my, they're my favorite actually is appropriate, you know, instead of, oh, he's super cute, let's take him home, you know? You know what I mean? And do you have the money to feed them a good diet? Do you have, you know, a little dog, a chihuahua, eats a lot less than a Great Dane, right? And so do you have, do you have the money to feed them like a really poor kibble, or do you have the money to feed them what they should be eating, which is a species appropriate diet? And that is also a factor. So there's lots of things to look in when you, when you have a dog or when you're looking for a new dog. And I think those things are important because the dog is going to have the issues as you know, getting rehomed or you know, not getting the proper nutrition based on our choices. So yeah, I mean not much to do with herbalism, but I don't deal with just herbalism. I deal with what's going on at home. I deal with the environment of the dog. You know, I deal with how the dog, you know, how I assume the dog is feeling based on its actions. So there's a lot more than just herbs that goes on when you're looking at a dog holistically. You know, you look at their environment, their parents, their stress toxins, you know, a lot of those things that affect the internal dog which is the nervous system is huge and often over overlooked.

Wow, I cannot thank you enough. This is so value and, and just you had such an incredible point. I can tell you. I just had one of my clients, unfortunately one of her pups passed away and she asked me, vasi, what do you think? I had to go through all of those thoughts and I told her from my humble experience, now I know more and hopefully our listeners and viewers know as well. And please friends share this with your friends. I think everyone you know, it's really great information. And I told her, you about to have a second grandchild. The breed you are getting or the baby you are adopting needs to be pet friendly. But some pets also went through trauma. So few years later, suddenly the trauma came, came out, you know, and then what are we doing? If you have like a little child running there, you know, even if you're the grandparents, all of those things, I think they're important and I want to ask you how people can find you. And with like if people are wondering if you can help them, you know, how they can reach out to you and what would you suggest them?

They can find me@canineherbalist.com Are you able to put show notes?

Yes, they already actually there I already added all of your links including the link tree, everything. It's yes done.

So they can find me@canineherbalist.com I. I'm very busy but what you do is just send an email. There's a, there's a consult information form on my website. You send it and my assistant will get back to you and tell you how to make an appointment. Usually there's a bit of a wait if it's an emergency. Sometimes I Can work you in or I can refer you to one of my colleagues that I work with. So we try together with the people that I work with. We try to, you know, accommodate as many people as we can. You can also I go One of a great way to get my services at a. At a highly discounted rate is I have a subscription group. So yes, it's. It's in the link tree. The link link. The subscription group is in there. And I have subscription group where you can post questions and I answer them directly. I go. I spend time on there every day answering questions. I also have. And that's only $10 a month. So you can quit at any time. And then I also have an ask the Herbalist section on my website. And that is depending on how many questions you have, it's 20 to $30. And I answer those on a daily basis except for on the weekends after I'm done with work. I answer those questions and then. But I tell you the subscription community is a lot less expensive to get my time first. You know, I do a lot of things for free like these things like podcasts and trainings. The subscription. The subscription book. I mean group. I do a training every month on a subject like we just did lipomas which are fatty tumors. We just did a training on lipomas and I also have another live training that's a question and answer on live. So you can come on there and ask any question about whatever's going on. Part of that community platform is I have some other courses on there and I'm thinking and I have a podcast.

I love your podcasts. I know that as we are doing this as live for your friends listening this as a podcast. Rita just released a new podcast episode and make sure. Yeah and I'm very excited. I myself I'm going to listen it. But friends, the link tree the website of Rita and the rest of her links are already. If you're watching this as live are there or you can find them below in the description of our Pet Peeks World podcast. So there is no way to say we cannot reach out and connect with it. But you are very given person. I cannot thank you truly from the bottom of my heart for coming today sharing with this such a value information. I truly would also encourage you friends if you are watching this or listening this please share with your friends because I feel that this episode can help so many honestly can help any pet parent you know and you know from doggies but also kitty cast because behavior is behavior and the tips you suggested are tips. So I'm excited. I know that you'll be coming in the future as well, which I'm very thankful because you're busy, Very, very busy person. Giving back. I also know that's kind of juicy information. But you know, Rita is working on a book series. So right now she's working on book number one, which is going to be released next year, year 2023. So there are a lot of things happening.

Yes. And if you would like to give back to me, you can on my link Tree link has, you know, all of my links. There's a link in there for the book interest. Sign up. So if you're interested in a really thorough herbal for, for dogs and I will be mentioning cats in the, in the book, you can sign up there and it's just your email address. There's no marketing, there's no commitment. It's just saying that you're interested and you'll get, you'll get an email from me when you can pre order the book.

Amazing. And I'm excited about this. So thank you so much for being with us today on the show. Thank you friends for watching or listening this episode. I really know that Rita gave us some so, so much information, really value information and I really hope, you know, you rewatch or release in this episode. Take a notepad right down and make sure you check out Rita's membership option, podcasts, the courses, also the book opportunity, you know, you know, personal question answering her website. As you can see, you know Rita and you have tried and you have so many ways to help us as a community. So thank you very much for it.

You are welcome and I will see you.

Thank you. See you soon. Have a lovely day everyone. Give a hug to your baby and just enjoy life. Thank you. Bye.