How to build your sales force | My First Million Podcast

David Sachs, Yammer's founder, created a playbook for building a sales organization. Key steps: calculate compensation and quotas based on product price, hire sales managers at the right time, and set pricing. Most startups can triple their prices and should hit $25,000 annual contract value before scaling a sales team.
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So David Sachs, who was the founder of Yammer, put out a beautiful post, or maybe it was a YouTube video, that says how to build your sales team. He's like, look, I didn't know this when I got into it. We started Yammer, we thought we were gonna get this bottoms-up adoption, then we needed to make money. They did actually get bottoms-up adoption, but they didn't make bottoms-up revenue. Revenue. Yeah, that's a good distinction, I think. So they got the product in and then they go to the CIO and they're like, hey, every, you know, 20% of your employees are using this, don't you want control over this? And so then he just walks through, he's like, look, this thing, you don't need to be a genius, like just follow the playbook, don't try to deviate and invent your own sales system. What's the playbook? And so he was, so he walks through it, I don't remember off the top of my head, but he walks through it on YouTube. He's like, look, here's how you calculate your comp for your salespeople, here's how you calculate your quotas, there's these two options, you're either gonna go with this path or this path, depends on the price of your product, and here's how you need to think about it. Here's when you hire, you know, sort of a sales manager, and here's how you compensate them. And he literally just lays it out, and it's like, oh, this is— if you're somebody who's in that, who's, you know, building your sales organization and you kind of don't know what you're doing, just Google David Sachs YouTube, how to build your sales team or whatever, and you'll find this YouTube video with like 100 views, but it's great.
I mean, Sachs is the best. Super smart on this and has obviously done it a bunch of times. What I think is interesting is, you know, Sam, what you said earlier, like when we come into companies, one of the first things we help them do is just triple prices. And that's the same thing if it's a $5K ARR, or a $5K ACV, same thing if it's a— Doesn't matter what it is, yeah. Like you almost always can price things significantly higher than you think you can. And generally like the companies we work with, you wanna see them at a minimum like $25K ACV. That's like, if you're having, if you have $25K accounts, like that's $25,000 accounts rather, That's where— a year? Yeah, a year. That's where you start to see some real leverage from putting on a sales team. If you, if you're a little under that, it can be a little bit tough.










