Finding the Awesome Stuff with David Delisle

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Doing great, like you said. I mean, friends at fincon, it's just a crazy show like for, for money nerds that love to just talk finance, real estate, investing, freedom. I mean, this is, that's the place to go.

It is, it totally is. I mean, when you have 2500-3000 money nerds hanging out, it's hard to connect with everybody at once. But that's why it's just afterwards or beforehand is always good. But you know, what would we, what would you say your number one or two takeaways from New Orleans was? Besides the food, obviously, and the people, but what was two nuggets that you really took away from this year?

I mean, for me, it's just, just connections. Like, I'm really, my, my big thing is impact in teaching kids these lessons because you teach the kids, we can change a whole generation of people in how they think about money, what they think of living a rich life and what that means to them. So I love anything that can create that impact. So making connections with people that are teaching, you know, kids, adults, you know, retirees, whatever it is, all this stuff around finance, because that's the thing is fincon as well, it really primarily is education, like the whole event. And because that's my thing, meaning anyone in that space, it's just, it's just awesome.

Yeah, I totally agree that we really need to reset the financial literacy of the world. I mean, so many places, especially here in the United States and you know, up there in Canada too, there's such a big deficit when it comes to people understanding how finances work. And, you know, what would you say your biggest version besides being a father? What was your big inspiration to start teaching people about that?

I mean, really, it is being a father. Like, I've got two young boys, they're 11 and 14. They're a little younger at the time when I started, you know, writing my, my book to teach, teach kids about financial literacy, and I wanted, I was looking for stuff for them. And the problem is, is most of the stuff for kids, it's, you know, piggy banks, lemonade stands, and it's just, it's, it's good stuff. Like, it's not terrible, but it's not going to translate to adulthood and financial freedom and really understanding money. And so that's, that's where I just realized we need to, we need to change this.

Well, I think we need an update from the 1950s way of, of making money too. You know what I mean? Because a lot of that stuff is set. I won't say the dark ages, but, you know, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years outdated than what's going on in today's world and today's numbers and when it costs a day with and all the different things that are going on, that affects money. Right.

For sure. And I mean, you're asking about a nugget from fincon. I mean, that's, it's not a specific nugget, but the fact that you've got thousands of people at this event, all of them interested in money, all of them on different journeys of financial freedom. And, and rarely would you ever talk to any two people who are doing it the same way. And that's the thing. Like it's, there's a million different ways to create wealth, and this is an event where people are open to those ideas and they're creative and they're entrepreneurial and they're going with it and taking those risks and, and it's working for them.

Yeah, I mean, it's the great thing. So many different folks are doing so many different things and leveraging so many different channels and niches. I mean, I'm in the note investing space, which is definitely its own niche of real estate out there compared to a lot of folks. And I've, you know, I've always been in that niche for about 16, 17 years now. And I find it hilarious that, I mean, we do our job to get it out, but we're still such a niche within a niche within a niche, which is great. And that's why I love fincon, because it's great because I can, people can speak about content. When I go to other places, there are no conferences. They're like, huh? You're doing what to market what? And I'm like, expand your horizons, people. Or I talk to my students about, hey, you want to raise capital or you find more deals? You got to start marketing on LinkedIn. You got to start reaching out to folks, you know, dropping a regular email to your database. Stay connected. And people like, no, I don't want to do that. I'm like, well, then you're going to stay in that freaking treadmill and not go anywhere. You know what I mean?

Yeah, for sure. And I think that's even when you reached out and you're like, you know, I'm in real estate. I mean, the first question I had was, well, what do you do in real estate? Because, I mean, it's, again, people think real estate's one thing. It's not, it's not even close to one thing. So.

Well, let's, let's dive into that, you know, because that was one of the things I like so much as I was obviously checking things out. You, you're a big advocate too. You really got a passion for investing abroad. Ecuador specifically, too. Right. Can you talk about why you like, like it, like it down there, south of the border?

Well, for me, I mean, I, I always love real estate in your backyard because you just, it's so much easier in terms of knowing the market, understanding the market and just having boots to the ground is, which is very, very difficult to beat. But for me, I mean, I've been investing in real estate for over 20 years now. And I just see, I, I mean, for me, I'm still, I, I don't try to stock pick or market time. At the same time, I can ignore major macroeconomic trends. And we're in one right now. We're in a massive trend where we've had very low interest rates that's shifting. Real estate has ballooned. And it's, it's because of these, these interest rates that were, you know, forced low because of the pandemic. And there's all these little factors that are put in place that are one offs that wasn't. This isn't a natural market we're in. And so for me, taking some of that risk outside of this local market and finding other places where I'd be insulated from some of those things makes a lot of sense. And in South America is, is one of those places where it does have its challenges. But in terms of some of the risks that we have here locally. It doesn't have those risks.

Well, that's the thing too is it's not. We all know people love going flocking where popularity is. And unfortunately a lot of investors get into at the peak of the market and they, they, there's no place for them to go, you know, oh, I'll wait till everything's perfect and I'll buy. Well, you don't make money at the peak of the market. You make money on the market and letting it rise up in developing areas and stuff like that. I think, you know, we, we buy distressed debt, so we're buying stuff that's in a distressed nature and that's why we get a bigger discount and we make our money by working out problems with borrowers and taking over the problem children that these banks don't want to deal with. That's fine. It's a definitely niche. But the whole idea is to buy low and sell high. If you can get in and discover a market that has that growing infrastructure so it's stable for that aspect of it, but also where it's a lot more affordable, that's, that's what's really great about areas like Ecuadorians in Latin America. Right.

For sure. And again, because I've been doing this for a while, when I go into these places, I've got a feel for the product and what I'm looking at and the opportunities. So a good example is, I mean, without even knowing the numbers or understanding anything at all, I can look at a place and notice what the development looks like. So I could see if it's change or not. So if you tell me, you're like, oh, Ecuador, it's growing, it's really great. And like, get down there and invest. I get there and I don't see it. It doesn't matter what I read or what the press says or what anyone says. I, I know looking at it if it's in a state of transition or if it's not, and, and that's all around the world, like, and that same in, like, even areas in your backyard. I mean, you, you, if you can see those transitions and you can see those opportunities and you can see it in the buildings being built, that's a big advantage. So I'm sure, same with you with the distressed properties. If you're, if you're going into an area in decline, those distressed properties will never work. But if you see, oh, there's little, hey, there's all these distressed properties on this block, but they Just put this new house at the very end and it's a new development. It's beautiful, it's built up and people are starting to come in. You can see that change. And, and that's really. It is. Once you start getting a feel for some of these things, some of it's just soft skills of just recognizing patterns and changes and momentum and, and I see it all around and Ecuador, a place where, yeah, I can go there, see different ch. Different changes happening.

Well, that's the thing is, is getting, I don't want to say getting your hands or. But getting outside of your house. I think we so many people, don't be wrong. I buy all across the United States in 30 markets. I can't jump on a plane, go look at everything. But there's many times I will go to like Michigan and I'll drive around Michigan for a week or two in some of the cities that I'm already looking at stuff in or Ohio. Driving around Florida for two weeks looking at assets and stuff like that. It makes sense to do that to get a feel for what's going on. Is this, is this a house in a good neighborhood or is it the only good looking house in a crime zone? I mean, and when you and I loved your videos you had on your Instagram, hey, I'm in Ecuador, you know, chilling out here. Are you scared of heights or whatever like that? You know, but that's the important thing is people, hey, jump on a plane, get, go down. If you're gonna invest in something, go down, spend a couple days weekend or a couple days, talk with experts. I mean, you know, talk with and just get a feel for it. Smell the air. I mean it's, you can, it's like you said, you get down there, you can feel, you can see the construction, you can see the growth taking place.

Right, exactly. And just like anywhere, there's going to be places there that are terrible deals and there's going to be some that are amazing. And, and that's also what people forget. Even right now without the way real estate's gone in North America, we like to think everybody's made money hand over fist and it's just been ridiculous. But there's been people who've lost. And, and that's the thing is averages. Yes, averages are up, but there's always better buys and worse buys and a lot of this is just by doing. And, and that's the thing is I'm, I'm sure you tell your, your guests as well that or your audience when they're listening in. Just get your, like, get your hands dirty. If you try to wait and wait and wait for everything to be perfect, it just never will be. But if you start recognizing, hey, I'm in it, you'll start recognizing those opportunities. I know that.

So.

So as you said, when you, when you see some of these opportunities and you can actually physically get down there, you're still checking some boxes that you're looking for, like, what's, what's down the road? What's going in? Did they just put in a mall? Are they. Are people moving into this place, moving out? What's the, what's the education like? What are the schools like? What are the businesses like? Why do people want to work there? And that's one thing I found with real estate, which is interesting, is when people start thinking about, like, deals and they're looking for opportunity. They think, I'm going to buy this place and I would never live there and I don't like it. But screw the person who's going to buy it from me. And it's just a terrible way to think. I mean, people are people. And if you don't like it, nobody else will like it. So treat your homes and your real estate as if it's something you'd want your, you know, your mom to stay at and.

Yeah, exactly. It's so true. You know. You know, some people, there's a difference between like Paris, Texas and Paris, France. Obviously, you know, it's a little. Paris would be a little bit more. They were. Some of the rural areas can be a little bit different than like Austin, Texas. You know, I might, you know, live in a house, but there's still a lot of people, they'll buy that TUTU or that three one that, you know, two, you know, 1200 square foot house, you know, three bedroom, one bath. That's right. For 800amonth. It might be a little too small for me and what we have going on, but that doesn't mean it's a bad property. It's something that if I end up having to own it, okay, I'd be happy owning that. And that's you. You hit that nail on the head. Don't buy something that you would don't want to end up owning because that's the big key, which is very, well, what's been your kind of your background when it comes to real estate? What's, you know, what kind of deals do you like doing? I've done the past. What kind of is your bread and butter that you really like to hang your hat on.

It's really evolved for me, a lot of it. Again, it's awesome that you have this show because you can sort of mentor people. I didn't really have any mentors. I just fell into it and, you know, bought, you know, I originally bought some pre developments, so I was able to get in, you know, before the build with a small deposit that I wasn't even sure how I'd carry the mortgage once the whole thing was built. But I was like, I saw the opportunity and I saw a rising market and I've typically held onto a lot of the places and rented them out. So usually for me, single family homes, rent them out, hold on to them, get the cash flow. So it's, I mean, in my market, I'm in Victoria, which is pretty close to the Vancouver market in Canada, it's expensive, so our cap rates are terrible. So I try to get the cash flow working so it's at least covering costs. And cap rates are low, but appreciation is high. And that's where I make the money. Refinance, buy more places, rent them out. And that's, that's sort of been, that's what I've traditionally done and then now doing some of this foreign investing and I've gotten into some limited partnerships with some large developments that are a little bit more hands off. I've gotten to some of those things. But, but for myself personally, that's, that's sort of how I started.

Makes sense. And then with the Ecuador stuff is that that's kind of your play there is to buy it and turn it into rentals, keep it for a while, appreciation, take a place for a few years. What's, what's kind of your, your game plan with that?

Most of it is buying, buying land, developing and selling. Okay. But there are still, you know, there are still some opportunities we're looking at where we'll, we'll hold some stuff, rent it or Airbnb it and sort of have a foothold there. And, and that's the thing. Ideally, I'd like to hold onto all my property. But again, it comes down to cash flow and moving money. It's, you know, and financing is going to be a little bit trickier outside of your country. So typically, if you've got to finance the entire thing yourself, it, it gets a little trickier for those buy and hold.

So that's the next question is to ask you, what kind of financing are you seeing? Is it all cash? Are you, I mean, obviously you're probably Raising capital, doing a syndication of some sort. But when do they have specific financing opportunities for expatriates and things like that where it's 20% down or carrying it for a while. How's that work in Ecuador for us.

We'Ve just been it all cash and it's just simpler that way. And so yeah, so a bunch of partnerships, all cash, get in, get out. Which is why we, we'd be looking at it a little bit differently in that case. And that's the thing is with real estate, so I wouldn't say complicated, just there's a lot of nuance and a lot of things. So even when we're looking at these deals, a really bad deal could look really good if you've got 90%, 95% financing. So there's, there's a lot of pieces and in the case where the financing isn't there, I gotta look at the deals differently. And even in Canada we had different financing options 10 years ago versus now.

Right.

And so I've had properties that I absolutely love that I had to sell purely because of the financing changed.

Well, and you've seen that too definitely here in the States with multifamily. In a lot of cases, folks that bought a few years back with the idea that they were gonna, you know, refinance into low interest rate mortgages have taken it in the shorts because those low interest rate mortgages aren't there anymore. And the cash flow changes, the cap rates changes and then the banks come knocking looking for more capital put down and they've got to decide something. Either you need to raise more capital from our investors or look at potentially turning that asset back over to the bank. And that's, that's not a good win on that strategy. But that's, it's the so, so true. Like you said, things change. You got to be willing to move with the punches.

Right, Exactly. And that's why it's nice to just, just get started and get started at a, you know, there's a lot of ways to get started that are more affordable. Like you're doing the notes, you can get in for notes a lot cheaper. You can get into pre developments or small condos a lot different, you know, easier or get in with some friends. It doesn't have to be, you know, the two million dollar house on the water and that's your first real estate investment.

To me, you totally now how do you incorporate this with your boys in, in with what you're teaching finance? You get them started talking about real estate or what kind of investment tactics are you sharing with folks right off the bat?

Well, a lot of my stuff. So when I, When I teach the kids and the less I teach the kids, there's the same stuff as I try to teach. I'd want same lessons, I'd want to teach adults. It's just, they don't learn. So I teach the kids instead. It's really what it comes.

I, I love that you said kids and adults. I said, well, kids of all ages from, you know, 6 to 65, we've all got the inner kid. Sometimes it takes us a little bit longer to start listening better.

Yeah. And so really, I mean, when it comes to investments and the lessons, I te. I talk about, like, the reason I talk about the awesome stuff and these other things is mindset's really important to me. Habits are really important to me. I love talking real estate. I know your audience is interested, so I could talk about this all day long, but most people don't. And it's not the only way to make money like that. The habit of investing is more important than, than what the actual investment is. So I try to talk about that with my kids. Like, this is, for me, the real estate. I try to show them it's not so much that, hey, you should invest in real estate and follow what I'm doing. It's. I'm choosing to put my money in real estate because I think it'll make money versus putting it into a new car. So that's more important. Like, that lesson's more important to me than invest in real estate. It's. I see an opportunity and I see that by investing today, I'll have more money tomorrow.

Now, by the awesome stuff, can you explain our audience what you exactly mean by the awesome? I know what it is because I've done enough research for those out there that don't. What. What do you mean by that?

It's a real mindset shift. And that's the thing. It's. This is what gets me most passionate. Because we don't talk about this, and it sounds very tongue in cheek and it sounds like it's for kids, and it sounds like it's not a big deal, but there's so much power in this. And because what it is is when we usually think about money, everything's how to have more money. So we start taking you down a path like, oh, well, what do you need to do? You need to leverage or invest here or do these habits. And it's all about how to have more money, which I'm not against. But if that's the only lesson we're focused on, then there is no end to that journey. It's always more and more and more chasing, chasing, chasing. The awesome stuff is that pause and reflection of what's really important to you as a first lesson. Why do you want money in the first place? What are you trying to achieve? What lights you up? What do you care about? Because if you don't really understand what that is, you're going to chase the trends and you're going to want five houses and you're going to want 20 cars and all these vacations, all these things. And every time you achieve that next goal, you'll want the next thing because that's all you know. But if you really understand the awesome stuff, what lights you up, what gets you excited, what gets you out of bed, and realize it's different for everybody, that becomes your focus. And for everybody, it's different. I mean, for me, a lot of it's time freedom that's massive. Freedom to spend with my kids, freedom to travel, freedom to do the things I love. And when I look at everything through that lens, everything I buy is weighed against that. Do I want to have this thing or do I want more? Freedom to do whatever I want. And so, yeah, so that awesome stuff is huge. And I just, I mean to give you an example of the power because I think sometimes I, I rush through it because I know it. And, and if I just pause a bit and just give you an example, this might be a good, good example of how it is. So I just talked to someone yesterday. I was on, on their show and they're talking about their kids and their kids really wanted a dog and they've been dug bugging for a dog. And I'm sure most of the parents listening in, like they can relate, like their kids want a dog. And his parents were like, you know, whatever we say to them, we can't afford it or it's too much or we don't have time, we're teaching them all these sort of negative feelings around money or lack or anything else. And this person, after sort of understanding the concept of the awesome stuff, teaching their kids, talking about like what's really important to them, mentioned that for them what was really important was their wife wanted to go back to school. And so awesome stuff to him was his wife going to school, going back to college, getting a degree. And so he told his kids, like, hey, for me, my awesome stuff's mom going back to school and the kids Were like, oh, well that's, that's cool, we prefer that over the dog. And now all of a sudden these kids, the outcome's the same. The kids don't get the dog, but the outcomes change. From these kids feeling like lack, they can't get it, whatever the reason to no, we're making a choice. What's important to us is mum going back to school and the kids are behind it. And now their perspectives changed and they're living in a world now where they have this empowerment and choose what they want and they're dictating their life and they don't feel poor and they don't feel the lack and they're not missing. Like they still would love the dog, but they'd rather see their mom go back to school. And that's the power in just this reflection of what's really important. It's a pause. So basically understanding the awesome stuff is just this constant pause. What's important to you. And it's going to change and it's going to constantly change and you'll make some wrong decisions and you'll get the wrong thing, you'll do the wrong thing. But just pausing, reflecting, it's going to change the way you, you perceive the world and how rich you actually feel.

That's so true because I think I've seen so many buddies of mine have just chased the all money dollar and they've been successful, but then they have this huge gaping hole. You know, they hit burnout because there wasn't anything to go into keeping them enriched or that, you know, they thought that was their why, but it really wasn't their why. They've gone through divorces, their kids dislike them. That's not happiness. That ain't awesome at all. No matter how many properties are what your cash flow is, if you're a miserable person, have nobody around, that's not winning in any form or fashion. And that's why I always tell my students, look, listen, financial freedom is different for every individual. If you got all your bills paid, you're making five grand a year and you do what the hell you want, that's financial freedom right there. To do what you want, where you don't have to put in 80 hours. And if you put in 80 hours a week and you love it, it's enjoyment, it enriches you. That's different for folks. But that's. I'm so glad you brought it because, yeah, that's the awesome stuff is being able to do what you want and just absolutely having an Enriched life with your, your kids, your friends, your family. And sharing those victories along the way and really getting the kids invested in those bigger decisions too, is one of the most valuable things you can do as an adult too. Correct?

For sure. Because then they, like, they're empowered. So if this same person kept it to themselves that this is what their awesome stuff was, didn't have that conversation with the kids, they'd still be thinking, dad's screwing us and just won't get us a dog. Like, why is he so cheap? My friend can have a dog. And maybe they grew up, you know, wishing they had more money or feeling like they can never be good enough to have more money, or all these negative feelings. But you get them in on the conversation and recognize these are all choices. The answer isn't we can't afford it, it's that we choose not to because something else is more important and that really has a massive impact. So. So sharing that and then you'll find as well, with the same kids, my awesome stuff might be sending mom to work. Maybe their awesome stuff is something different. And now you start having discussions where as a family, maybe this is what's important to us individually. Everyone has their own individual thing. Like, you know, so we don't have the shame or judgment because that happens quick too. Like someone buys something you don't get and you're not into, and we're like, that's just such a waste of money and so stupid. Well, it's because it's a waste of money to you. But to them, that really might be the only thing they love. So. So trying to take, take out that.

Have you had any things happen like that with your boys where things were engaged and they, they shifted there or there was other times, like I wanted to do this and they're like, ah, you know, I'm sure you've got some definite examples of stuff where it's worked well and then.

Well, I mean, so many examples, but a really big, big one because we're talking real estate. So we were in just a gorgeous, beautiful, big, I mean, a mansion, essentially this beautiful old character home. And the kids loved it. Big backyard and big rooms and everything else. But this is during COVID The market was going, getting red hot. And I saw the opportunity to like, you know, take some of this money off the table because things are changing and they're changing fast. And I had a discussion with the boys about, like, this is what we're looking at, but in doing this, it creates more freedom, we can travel more do these other things. And so that's a great example where they, they love that home. They love their room. They still miss it. Like, we'll even go by sometimes and be like, oh, look how cool it is and what the people have done with it. And like, that was so awesome. But they don't feel. They don't. They miss it, but they don't feel like they can't have it or the lack around it. It's. They feel empowered because that was so cool to have lived there. But now look at all the things we can do. We just went to Australia for three weeks and, you know, did this amazing trip. So that type of freedom that we can have now because we left that home, that's. That's the discussion we've had. And they're. They're on board with that.

That's awesome. Now, can you share a little bit about your book, the Golden Quest? Because it kind of falls in line with exactly kind of what you're talking about, isn't it?

Yeah. So the Golden Quest. One thing that's great about it is it's a graphic novel. So kids just eat it up and they'll read it and they'll flip through it, and we're talking financial literacy. So to get a kid to actually read a financial literacy book and read it multiple times, massive. And everything in there is written sort of in a style. I try to do it sort of like a Calvin and Hobbes or Winnie the Pooh, like something that adults and teenagers can read as well. So it's these simple lessons. And basically a young boy goes on a quest, learns four simple lessons. The first one being around the awesome stuff. The next two around saving and compound interest and investing, and the fourth around giving and becoming, you know, being richer through giving. And really, if I look back on my financial journey, I started reading finance books, investing when I was like 10. I love this stuff.

Yep.

Those four lessons, if you embody those habits and that those mindset shifts, everything else I've done, I mean, it's, it's, you know, six of one, half a dozen of another, it would make very little impact. Those habits that investing early, the seeing, compound growth. Same with my real estate. I mean, the real estate investments, they did well because of time and, you know, and because of the habit of finding the money to do it instead of purchasing things that would have just disappeared and I wouldn't even remember anymore. So those habits and that mindset and those shifts, those really are the most important things to me that we all should learn as adults when it comes to money. So I put in this graphic novel. You can find it on Amazon, you can find on my website, theawesomestuff.com I'm trying to get into schools and do speeches around it and talk to kids because for me, that's the impact of sort of teaching kids these lessons is so important.

Yeah, it is. It's. It is one of the most important things, I think, when we need it more so now than ever with social media and phones, stuff like that, there's not anything positive out there for the most part. And the more that we can spend time on shaping our youth in good ways versus letting something else shape means a lot in the long run. But developing those lessons when kids are, you know, at an early age and very impressionable, and how can it help overcome a lot of that social presence and a negative aspect of things that comes along when stuff isn't around? You know what I mean?

Well, it's. So the peer pressure is just massive. So, like, I had another little boy who. He wanted a new tv. Like, a big, awesome new tv. And his parents, they're finance people, and they're like, it's not worth it to us. And they didn't want the tv. And they're like, no, we don't. Like, our TV is fine. And the kid wanted it. Wanted, wanted it. Read the book, understand, understood what was really important to him. Like, the very next day, he was like, I don't need the tv. And they're like, you've been bugging about this tv, like, why don't you need the tv? Like, what's changed? Why'd you even want it? And I mean, his answer was like, all my friends have a big tv. And so he thought he should have one. And that's the thing is that's. That's what our kids are being taught. And so by just changing the narrative of, like, what do you really care about? What's important to you? It. It helps fight all the social media, all the peer pressure, everything we see. And that's the thing, when we see all these people with money, they're all like, they're on yachts and they're driving fancy cars and they're drinking champagne. There's, you know, beautiful men, beautiful women, everyone's in bikinis and, you know, on beaches. Is that that's what we're being shown, and that's success to us. And if. If that's all we've. We've been shown, then, I mean, that's it doesn't bode well for society.

Yeah, that's the truth. But like you said, everybody's got their own definite success and own definition of the awesome stuff. And that's the thing, is if we can teach our kids to be individuals and develop their own thing versus outside influence, it makes for, I think, for much better adults and people that can do a lot more with what the money they have to influence and impact so many other people out there. So kudos to you, David. That's awesome. What's the best way, what's the best way for our audience to connect with you, to follow up, to follow on your journey? And obviously, probably a way to pick up one or two of the books for you.

Yeah, I mean, go to the website, theawesomestuff.com. all my information is there. I'd love to. If you've got an audience, you want to come, you know, talk to your school or there's a conference or a group or community. I mean, for me, this is my passion. I'm not, I'm sure you can hear it in my voice. I get super excited about this stuff, so I'm happy to do that. And you can reach out to me there. Same on like, TikTok and Instagram. I'm under the awesome stuff. You can find the book on Amazon, it's the Golden Quest. You can request it at bookstores as well. They can get it in. So that's, that's how you find me. And, and I'd love to hear from any of the, you know, any of your listeners. Reach out. I, I love talking to people, love teaching this stuff.

Awesome. Well, we've got a, A great, great portion of our audience is adults. We even find out that a lot of our audience is teaching their kids separately, either homeschooling or also helping them out, obviously with finance and teaching them a lot of these great lessons and helping them set on their own golden quest out there too, for you. So, yeah, David, it's been awesome. We could talk all day, but I know you're a busy guy just like I am. Thank you so very much for coming on the no Closer show, bud. Look forward to catch up with you in the future sometime. Alrighty.

Yeah, I love it. And, and anytime you want me to just talk real estate instead of awesome stuff, I talk real estate all day long as well.

Well, we'll have to have you on again, I take it.

Alrighty. All right. Thanks so much.

No problem. Good stuff there. All right, guys. Go out, take advantage of that. Check out David's books there. Like I said, the awesome stuff there, it's gonna be well worth your time. And then, like I said, follow him on all the different socials out there. He's got some great journeys that he shares out there as well. So go out, take some action, buddy, and we'll see at the top by.