No Quit Living: Control Your Mind, Control With Life With Christopher Wirth

Foreign. This is the no Closer show where you get the latest developments in distressed note investing and learn the secrets of how you can control millions of dollars worth of property for pennies on the dollar. Get educated and entertained by someone who has closed thousands of deals and lives to support you in achieving the same. Now, here's your host, CEO of We Close notes, Scott Carson.

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, everybody. Welcome to this episode of the Note Closer Show. As always, Scott Carson. Excited to be here with the day. I'm excited to have another very special guest on here. And we as entrepreneurs, sometimes it's a lonely road, sometimes things go our way. We have homes. We gotta take two steps back to sometimes go a step forward. And in all the conversations that I have with students from Note Nation out there and people looking to do something big, I had a great discussion with a couple guys yesterday that were struggling as an entrepreneur. They're struggling to make funds. They're wanting to quit on their dreams. And I was just like, man, don't. If you've got to take a step back for a little bit, take a little step back for it. But don't give up on your dream. Don't give up on your why. And that's why I'm so excited to have our special guest on here today. This guy is the founder and president of no Quit Living, which falls exactly in. We want to talk about today. It's a speaking, coaching and training company. No Quit Living works with individuals, teams and corporations to help improve accountability, effectiveness and efficiency. No Quit Living looks to motivate, inspire their clients to never give up on themselves, their goals and their dreams. So it's like divine intervention. True story on that. So our special guest is my buddy, Christopher J. Worth. He's the host of the no Quit Living podcast, which has been ranked as a top 50 podcast on iTunes in three different categories, business, health and self help. He's also a very highly sought after keynote speaker. If you need a dynamic speaker to motivate, inspire and captivate your audience, look no further than our buddy, Christopher Worth. So good morning, Chris. How's it going today, buddy?

Good morning, my man. I wanted to first off say thank you. I appreciate the opportunity and it's an honor to be here.

Well, we're glad to have you, man. We connected a few weeks back and things like that and you were on our mass media podcast and we reached out and shared and I love what you're doing, but let's, why don't we start with and give a little background how you got to where you're at today, kind of what you're, you're doing and why an NQL is so awesome and such an amazing movement going on.

I appreciate it. So I think it kind of originated back without knowing it, just my sports career. I played two sports in college and I played, I think five or six really competitively growing up. And after college, I coached college basketball, high school basketball, and AU basketball. And I think that's kind of where the coaching perspective came. And I also ran and run a wealth management firm and I got certified at the first ever John C. Maxwell speaking training and coaching certification program back in 2011. And I did it selfishly because I wanted to be a better speaker trainer, coach for myself, for my team, for my junior partners. And fast forward 2016, I launched Quit Living as a motivational speaking, training and coaching company. And it's just taken off. And I say that, not in a boastful way, nor am I bragging, but I say it. It's taken off because not really knowing the whole concept and idea where it was gonna go. I talk to people and on my podcast, the second question I ask is for our guest, no quit story. And almost every single person says, which one do you want to hear, Chris? And I think it's funny. And you laugh and I laugh. But the reality in life is it doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter where you are, it doesn't matter how old or young, your color, your religion, your background. Everybody has a no quit story. And the reality is most people have multiple no quit stories. And in no way sh or form is that negative. That's just the reality of life. One of my first guests ever shared a quote and he said, amazing philosopher. And I was all excited, taking notes down, and he said, everybody has a plan until you get punched in the mouth. And he said, mike Tyson. And I was like, I don't think Mike Tyson was a famous philosopher. But the reality is it's an amazingly simple truth. Because when everything's going great, it's easy. It's simple, you know, whether you're in sports or business, if your stock price is flying up, you haven't lost a game in weeks. It's really easy to get up in the morning and go to bed and talk to your spouse or kids or family and friends. But what I realized is that the whole no Quit Living idea and concept is just something that has taken off in the sense because everybody says, you know what? I need that extra inspiration, or I'm having a tough day or I lost a big sale or we lost our best player for the season and we need other people to step up. And I think it's just a really cool concept and idea and it's just allowed us to do a lot of other things and we're doing a lot of cool positivity movements along the way and it's been really exciting and getting a chance to connect with people like you and like minded individuals and realizing that you can help others and selfishly sharing quick story about you. You and I, the first time we spoke on the phone, I think 35 to 45 seconds into it, the first question you asked me after we said hello was, you know, how can I help you? And I think the reality is that's something that we all can do and need to do more of. And I think the reality is when you do that for the right reasons, it comes back tenfold. And it might not be to you but or to your wife or husband or kids. Maybe it's to a friend, a cousin. But the reality is I believe in the boomerang effect where if you do the right thing and if you really try to positively impact other people, it's going to come back tenfold. Usually.

Yes, that's the truth. And I kind of want to jump in on that quote from Mike Tyson. It's a little higher pitched. You got to kind of do it like this. Nobody has a plan to get punched in the mouth. You know, that's so horrible imitation. But you're laughing about that. But that's the truth is we all are running along thinking everything's good and we don't expect bad things to happen. We have things that happen in the real estate space all the time. Deals fall through, funding falls through, bids that we're working through, doing due diligence falls through. And it's easy to get down on yourself, oh, this sucks. But those that keep going, those that stick to what they're doing in the long run, they just have had more no's to get to where they're at today than most people have. You know, the quote from Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan, I've missed more than most people have tried. You know, you take the shots. I've missed more shots, game winners than you've ever attempted. I think entrepreneurs just that have been around for a while develop a thick skin. They start to realize that yes, there are multiple no quit stories but a lot of people don't realize that. I think in today's society, I hate to say It. But the generation of participation trophies doesn't work in real life, right? Oh, I hit a hot button there. Hang on. Did you get participation trophies, Chris?

No, I can honestly say factually, not only do myself and my brother, we still have our trophies, our awards, all that stuff growing up. And jokingly, he and I a couple years ago just went back to look at it and in no way am I saying that my Brother, I were MVPs and all stars in every single aspect. But there was not a single participation trophy. There is not a single thanks for just showing up. And I think it's good. And I have three young kids. When you're three and four and five years old, you're not gonna have a three year old scream at them and say, you lost, get out of here. But when you get to be 7, 8, 9, 10 and above, I think the reality of life hits you where everybody doesn't win all the time. And I think that's something that it's okay if it's done the right way. You don't chastise somebody or poke fun at them, but you say, hey, you lost the game or you didn't get the part, the lead in the play. But the good news is there's another play in the fall or there's another game next week. And how do we learn from it? I just think the whole participation trophy is not realistic because everybody doesn't win all the time. If that was the case, we'd all be billionaires. Nobody would fail ever, and everything would be great.

That's the truth. And we'd all be quadriplegics as adults if we had to learn how to walk when we were older. Right.

I don't know how we do it.

Yeah, I've got a buddy who served in Iraq and lost both of his legs. And when I see him, when I talk to him, it's like, it can't have a bad day if you're waking up and you've got use of all your limbs and your health and stuff like that. This guy's out running marathons or 5Ks and 10Ks and doing amazing things out there. And you have to give it up to him and other people like that. And we talked. One of the great things I think about being an athlete, we mentioned about this earlier on during our conversation, both having athletic careers, is I think that you learn to get hit in the mouth more often as an athlete. You get your shot blocked or you foul out or you get run over by the running back in other cases or Pancake block, where you're the pancake and not the blocker. Life will do that to us. I mean, we had that obviously happen for a lot of entrepreneurs over a decade ago with the crash, with people losing houses and people losing investment properties. I see a lot of people up there, though, struggling to make ends meet. I mean, everything seems good, markets doing well, but a lot of people are struggling to get by on things. So what are some things that you would share with our audience out there? Maybe one, two or three tips to help them get over those humps. To keep going and not to give up.

Yeah, I think you touched on it a couple minutes ago. As far as the Michael Jordan quotes that you shared, and I myself am a huge follower of quotes I haven't collected all over the place.

But the Instagram, by the way, which.

I love my Instagram, you can see there, they're behind me in my office here. But one of the things I found is interesting is some of the most successful people that we look up to, and I say we generally, whether that's business, sports, whether it's entertainment, they talk about all of the times that they failed in the sense that it made me better. And I came back and I want to share one quick little story with your listeners and viewers here is you asked about a skill or one or two or three. The one thing that I would say the most important thing is most of the time, people want to give up right before the tide's about to turn. And whether it's a week, a month, six months, and I'm not saying in any way that you never give up and you keep going no matter what. Obviously, there's a point where you have to realign and maybe take a couple steps back. But the famous actor Mark Ruffalo, he's been in a lot of movies. The last, probably the most well known in the sense from the visual perspective, because those movies just. Just absolutely kill it in the box office. But there's a story that I saw many, many years ago, and I've read it, and whether it's 100% true or close is he went on up to 600 auditions and he did not get a single single part. He also had family issues with one of his brothers getting killed. He had issues with half of his face being paralyzed and trying to be an actor in that world. And the reality is people see him now and they say, wow, he's successful. He's the Hulk. He's been in all these. All these other movies. He's been unbelievably successful. But the one thing that is not fair in the sense of social media today is that you don't see what happened before. So for your listeners or viewers out there, you're a lot closer than you were. And the one thing I will say is even if you're having a tough day, lose a deal, realize and understand that you are one step closer. And it doesn't mean you're going to be a millionaire or a billionaire overnight, but the reality is you keep going. And every single day you can't give 100%. Like you said, there are days when you're having a tough day and you lose a deal, you lose a game, you lose a house, you lose an investment in property. But the reality is you can always give a little bit more, you can always give a little bit extra effort and it doesn't mean success. And in no way does it mean you're going to be undefeated. But David Goggins, who I know you know of in the sense of just being an insane guy in a positive way, he's one of the only guys who went through Bud's, I believe three times in a two year period. He says in that interest, and he says that when most people give up or they think they're done and have nothing left, they've only given about 40%. So what I said to people is take it a step further, is give one more chance, make one more phone call, send one more text message, write one more handwritten note, send one more email, and any viewers or listeners that are out there, the reality is you're not going to be guaranteed that that one more is going to make a difference. But I guarantee this, if you put that 1% or one more idea concept into your business and personal life, it's going to happen a day, a week, a month down the road where you make one more today and then you fast forward and compound that over a week, two weeks, three weeks, that's 21 more contacts, that's 30 more phone calls, that's 30 more emails. And the reality is if you keep doing that consistently, you are going to be successful. It doesn't going to happen overnight. But the reality is everybody out there can do a little more. You yourself, myself included, we can give 1% more today and we can make one more phone call, one more text message, one more email. And the reality is if you do that and you compound it, you're going to be so much more successful. Because it's all those little things, and I say this all the Time in sports. And obviously you referenced that we're both sports guys. I've been a fan of all different sports since I was little and I've never seen or heard of a championship that was won or lost after the first game. The NFL season just finished a couple weeks ago. I've never seen the commissioner say after the first weekend, you know what, you guys are awesome. We're going to give you the championship today and we're going to cancel the rest of the season. The reality is so many teams have actually started off poorly and continue to do it. And it's those the first win on the road, the first home win, the first two game win streak. And you compound those small victories and it leads to really big championships down the road.

Yeah, that's the thing is I think success is bred into people doing that a little bit extra, that 1% to 5% extra that nobody else does. And the thing that frustrates me the most in society these days is everybody's looking for that quick fix or the least amount of activity to find success. Oh, I want to get rich quick. Or what's the least amount that I have to do to be successful? And you're shaking your head there. You see the same thing too, don't you, buddy?

I think that's one of the misconceptions of social media is you see somebody's success of maybe having 500,000 views or a million likes and you say, well, let me do that. I won't say who it is, but I followed a lot of different people and I see these things all the time. It's like write a best selling book in 30 days or less. And I've had some unbelievable guests as you have on your show and I've had some best selling authors and I always bring it up to them and they laugh and they kind of smirk and they say, chris, there's nothing that that's guaranteed. There's no program out there where you can just take anybody, collect their $100 or $200 and make them a best selling author in 30 days or less. It's just like whether you like football or not, you know, Tom Brady's considered one of the greatest football players and quarterbacks of all time as far as just stats alone, as far as championships. And he wasn't a success immediately. You know, he didn't have a great college career, he was not drafted highly and he was not even expected to be a starter or a main component to the New England Patriots for a couple years. Unfortunately, there was an injury. And he got an opportunity to step up. But there's nothing that, like you said, is not this quick fix, it's this drink. This drink. And you know, you lose 40 pounds overnight and you're going to be Mr. Universe. Now, there are things that are continually advancing, and one thing I always say is technology. And especially in the medical field, people 20, 30 years ago at the age of 60 would have cancer. And God forbid, a year later, they unfortunately pass away. Now somebody gets cancer at the age of 80 and a year later they're completely fine and they live to be 100 years old. I mean, there are amazing things that are out there, but there's nothing that's overnight. And I forget who said it. I'm a big quote guy. I think I've heard it 30 different times. But I believe it was on one of Hal Elrod's podcasts. They were talking about overnight success. And one of his guests said, yeah, I was an overnight success. It took me 10 years. And everybody laughed. And I always share that because there's nothing that's overnight that we see now. There are things that happen and whether it's a lottery winner or something, but there's never been a company that was created at 6pm and all of a sudden the next morning at 6am they're like, hey, our value is now $10 billion and I'm done.

Yeah, I think that's Daymond John. It actually is that quote. I heard him say that a couple times. Founder of FUBU and the Shark Tank guy. He talked about waiting tables at Red Lobster while working on his FUBU thing. You know, working double shift and going home and working for six hours sewing stuff and then sleeping on the floor because they'd sold everything off. I'm a big believer that we control a lot of our destiny in the day to day actions that we take, the day to day mentality that we take. And I see the quote over your right shoulder there. What is it? Positive anything is better than negative.

Nothing.

Nothing. Oh, I love that. Okay, and what are some of the things that people should be doing to. Look, we've all got Debbie Downers in our lives, you know what I mean? People that we want to get the hell away from that drive us crazy.

Yes.

I love my noisemaker here.

I'm about to say, when we get off, I gotta get one of those myself.

Those out there that are struggling because life seems to just give them right hooks left and right. What are some of the things that they should be doing? Should they change what they're listening to, change what they're reading, change who they're hanging out with. What have you seen? The easiest things, but some of the simplest things that we can do on a daily day and out basis to change our trajectory and our mindset. Because I think if you've got a negative mindset, negative things happen to you. If you've got a positive mindset, that doesn't mean negative things aren't going to happen to you, just that you overcome those negative things faster and turn them into positive or turn lemons and eliminate a lot faster.

I think it's such a very powerful question you ask. And I'll use a old school individual, Zig Ziglar, who was, I feel, one of the best. He had an amazing quote many, many, many years ago, which obviously doesn't come into play as much today. But he said it's like the people who complain about pornography on their vcr. And he said, the reality is, you know, you take that tape, vhs, you put it in there and you have to press play. Nobody does it for you, you're not forced to do it. So I share that with a little bit of humor. But the reality is, what I teach people, what I coach people on, is the concept of controlling the controllables. And for me it's very simple, is I can control what I see, what I watch, what I hear, and I can control what I say. Now what I can't control is I can't control you. I can't control you saying, hey, Chris, and you just going off for 10 minutes about just nonstop negativity. And to your point, Debbie Downers, what I can control is how much time I spend with you. What I can control is how much time I spend with those other people that either keep me here at Status Quo or maybe bring me down. You know, Jim Rohn says you are the average of the five people you spend the most of your time with. I think that comes into play so much more in today's day and age. And I think the one thing I would say to your listeners and viewers if they're looking to make a change is when I talk about the self accountability mirror, I think it's very important. You have to look at yourself and you have to see what you're doing and you have to be honest with yourself. And the reality is you and I know this. You could fib to a significant other, you could fib to a boss and say, oh, you know, I made 25 calls today. Maybe you only made 18 or 19 but he or she might believe you. Because the way you deliver it in the morning and at night when you look in that self accountability mirror, you can't lie to yourself. Now, you could try, but if you look in the mirror and you know, you didn't go to the gym and say, you know, I crushed my workout today, you look back at you and say, no, that didn't happen. That's not the way it is. And the other thing that I say with people, in addition to what you hear, what you see and who you spend your time with, is social media, I feel is an unbelievably powerful tool. And I think the reality is people use it. I feel the wrong way. And what I mean by that is if you have those friends that are always bragging and I'm doing this, I'm going there, it's going to make you feel like you're not up to their level. It's not going to make you feel good. So you don't have to unfriend them and say, you know, I'm never listening to you, but you can mute certain people. And I actually talk about that quite a bit is you can control what comes across your screen, whether it's Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. You can control the type of messages you see, the type of people that you interact with. And I think that's the thing. Again, going back to my first part of the answer is control the controllables. You know, you can't control every single person that comes into your day, whether someone bumps into your office or you bump into a friend or somebody at the gym. But just because somebody's there doesn't mean you have to spend 25 minutes with them. You can be very nice and cordial to somebody, but if you know that person kind of brings you down a little bit in a nice way to say, hey, I'll connect in a little bit, go finish my cardio. And it's not mean, it's not rude, but you're just saying to yourself, you know what, it's more important for me right now to listen and to put my time and effort behind those people that are going to bring me up. And I said before is you have the middle level, the status quo, where people want to keep you as is, or you have the other perspective, which people want to bring you down and they want to kind of destroy you. Or you have those other people to say, hey, you know what, I want to inspire you and motivate you. Or, you know what, Scott, why don't you Come to the gym with me tomorrow morning. You know, you mentioned that you couldn't do it, you know, you've been busy and meet at 7 o' clock at the gym tomorrow and we'll go through a workout. Those are the people that are going to continually push you. And the thing I say a lot is one suggestion is look into an accountability partner. It's something that we believe a lot at no, quit living. I myself have quite a few different accountability partners and it's free. The only challenge, and I say challenge in a good way, is you have to find the right person. Everybody's not a great accountability partner and you're not a great accountability partner for everybody. But once you find that right person or two, it does make a huge difference. And as I said, it's free. It doesn't cost you anything other than your time and effort.

Yeah, that's true. Having an accountability partner is such a critical aspect of things because we will give up on ourselves or lie to ourselves a lot of times, especially New Year's resolutions, going to the gym or choosing to do something else. But if we got accountability partner, it's really hard to look somebody in the eye and lie to them. So I got it done when you really did it.

Good.

Because there to see the improvement, they're there to see the actions and massive action too is a great way to keep rocking and rolling about things. Set yourself some mini timelines. I think is a big thing of 30, 60, 90 days of doing something because then you'll look back like, wow, look how far I've come in 90 days. And I think a lot of people don't do that with an economy partner or setting goals and they just kind of drift. Sharon Lechter, the co author of Rich Dad, Poor dad, is a friend of mine and she was the, I won't say the author of Winning the Devil by Napoleon Hill. She kind of co authored. But she talks about how drifting people drift through life and they don't really have any focus and that's why they're not successful. That's why they're not finding the things that need to do. And so I didn't know that so many of us struggle with drifting. Everybody does. No matter what it is throughout the day we all drift. But what are some of the best tactics that you would recommend to help people avoid drift? To find that focus, to find that true kind of center to so that they can pull out the gun and shoot the squirrels. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. Is an actual squirrel or Just a gun.

That's a gun.

No, you got something. And you and I had an interesting conversation the other day about goals. And you had shared with me some of your goals for getting on different podcasts and sharing your message and things. And I think two things that I would say to your listeners and viewers is put your goals down on paper. And I think most people think about a goal, they potentially have an idea or concept of what it should be, but when you put it down on paper, it's so much more real than just thinking about it. The other thing I would say is I'm a huge believer in looking at my goals every morning and every night. But I'm also a big believer in affirmations. And I want to say I'm not talking about these affirmations where, you know, you wake up in the morning and you say, you know, I'm amazing, everything is perfect. I think those are not realistic in the sense of per our Mike Tyson jokes and the comments of things Happen. But I think affirmations in regards to goals you want to have personally, professionally, whether it's with your family, friends. And I think when you start writing it down, your goals, your affirmations, you start saying them and then when you listen to them, it puts you on a different, more focused path. And it doesn't mean in any way that you're guaranteed success overnight or within two days. But people always follow up, usually and say, well, how long and how often should I do it? And what I say to people is, Rome wasn't built in a day. So if you have not engaged in putting goals down on paper and listening or writing or verbalizing your affirmations, I'd be silly to say to you, alright, Scott, you've never done it before. I want you to do it for an hour and a half this morning and two hours tonight. You're gonna say, kris, that's almost three hours, if not more than my time. I can't do that. So I take it a step further and I say, okay, how about this? Why don't you grab five minutes this morning and five minutes tonight. It could be in your bed, it could be at your home office, it could be even at your lunch break. Write some stuff down, really think about it, but think about what are those goals that you could go after? And I always say for people to have goals that they feel they can do, but also to have those stretch goals. Because Zig Ziglar, again, another quote is, you can't hit a target you don't have and I always ask that when I'm coaching people. I say, all right, tell me your goals. And I do a lot in the real estate world as well with coaching real estate brokers and agents and sales teams. And I always ask that question, you know, what's your goal this quarter or this year? And everyone always says, well, I want to do more. So I said, okay, let me take it one step further. Scott said, you made $100,000 last year and let's say you did. You say, yep, I did. So I say to you, okay, so now this year you're going to be satisfied making $100,005 and you're going to sell, of course. Nice. Okay, then let's put an actual goal. So because the reality is, let's say you shoot, want to do one and a half times at 150,000, if you don't hit it, but you still get to 140 or 145, you're going to feel good about it. You're not going to feel 100% satisfied, but you're going to say, you know what, I went from 100 to 145 and next year I want to go to 200. And the people that I work with and some of my mentors and some of my accountability partners, we always talk about goals, we always talk about putting things down on paper. I'm a huge believer. I have our no quit living job journals, which are basically just little fancy journals, but they're completely blank on the side. And I tell people all the time, there's nobody that can tell you this is the magic secret where you have to write goals or affirmations this way or it's got to be done with this specific pen color. No, the reality is I know people that literally jot them all down. I know you know Grant Cardone because you're in the real estate world. He still says to this day in 2020. I've seen him speak live and heard him live many times. He talks about how he writes his goals down and what he used to do growing up was just taking a yellow pad of paper and just write them down. He didn't have a fancy system, he didn't have an app on his phone. He's worth a significant amount of money and he's self made. So I always tell people, don't look to make it more complicated than it needs to be. Look at somebody like Grant who's amassed a huge real estate empire. And if he can do it on a yellow pad, I'm Pretty sure that we all can do it pretty simple as well.

Exactly. No, I agree to that 100%. Just writing it down on an index card. I use a lot of index cards when I travel or go to events that I take notes on so I can go back to make it easy to do. I have a journal as well that I carry with me. I'm going to ask you this question. What's your big goal for 2020? I'm sure you probably have just a couple. What are your biggest goals for the year?

Yeah, no, that's. I'm glad you shared that. So my biggest goal is finishing my first book titled Addition by Subtraction. I've been working on that for a while, and I know it's kind of silly, but you and I spoke a little bit. We have these positivity notes where literally we write positive quotes and we've gotten to 28 or 29 states now. So one of our huge goals is to be in all 50 states before the year's over and to be in as many different countries as we can. And the reason I say that is I'm not going to 50 states myself. I'm not going to multiple countries. But what we're doing is we're leveraging the power of social media and we're leveraging, I feel, the power of positivity. And when you inspire somebody and you motivate somebody, the reality is it has a positive snowball effect. It's the domino effect where all of a sudden you feel amazing and you share it with your spouse or your friend or your mother or your father or your teammate or your co worker, and all of a sudden they share it. And all of a sudden one really positive action happens, has a snowball effect of impacting 10, 15, 20 other people. And that's what's literally happened with our positivity notes. People have seen on Instagram and said, hey, can you send me some? And I literally, before we recorded today, I sent out 20 positivity notes to Ontario, Canada, which is really cool. It's our third or fourth time we've been in Canada, so those are kind of my two biggest. And the other one is we're relaunching our podcast in the next couple days. We recorded a ton of people just so we could get caught up. And I don't have a goal in the sense of a monetary number. I don't have a marketing goal. I don't have a download goal. I have a very specific goal is I want to have a very significantly Positive impact on at least one person every single day that listens to one of the shows. And like I said, they pay it forward in their own way.

I love it, man. I love it. I love it. I love it. Because you're a CFP as well, too, correct? You're working in.

Nope, not. We have multiple CFPs in our office, but I'm not myself. I'm not.

That's got to help you guys with what you're doing as well there, too, doesn't it, with what you're doing with NQL or anything like that?

Yeah, definitely. I think when you have the structure and the focus and when you have the structure in the sense of the discipline and consistency, all of it just comes together. And kind of like you said before, as you have those really good days, but then you also have those really tough days, and I think there's such a huge parallel between the two of them for me, where almost going the same way in both directions, which is not very different than what you do in both of your fields.

Yeah, definitely. Now, with all the interviews you've done, sports figures, entrepreneurs, what's one or two that really stick out that really surprised you, your podcast interviews. What's one thing that you just like, wow, you walked away from it or was like, I didn't expect that. And you came away with a story or a solution that just kind of. You were surprised to get?

Chris, I'll share just an interesting story. So I know you know the football movie Rudy, and my father, myself, my mother and I were very involved in Broadway. It's one of our side passions. We've done investment, we've done producing different shows. The first show we got involved with, we ended up winning four Tony Awards, which was unbelievable. But I've loved the movie Rudy ever since I was little. I was playing in football in 8th grade. White Renner came out, and I was a quarterback and a cornerback, and I just absolutely fell in love with the movie. Got a chance to go to Notre Dame to see a game live, literally within a couple weeks. And the movie came. Excuse me, a couple months after the movie came out. But my point of that is I had the real Rudy Rudiger on my show, and it was unbelievable. Fast forward. We were contacted by somebody that wanted to get Rudy to do a one Night on Broadway live show. And literally a week after my show aired with Rudy, he came to New York, and we got a chance to spend about two hours with him before the show. He brought us on the stage, and now we're actually doing some projects with him. But the coolest part about his story is his story I knew, but he talked about it in a different way on the show. And what people didn't realize was he was in his mid to late 20s when that actually happened. People think it was right after high school. And that's a lot of the Hollywood changing it end. But the most interesting perspective, which I did not know about his story is he obviously was very famous in the sense of at Notre Dame. He came back to Notre Dame and he wanted to do the movie. And they were basically so against it, the actual university, because of fanfare and all that stuff. And he literally had the ninth inning with two outs and two strikes where they basically told him, you have one week to get this in place. And he said, kris, I have no idea how I did it. He said, but I just went after it. And the reason I share that story is every single person has a no quit time or a time where they could have given up or it goes back to what I said before. You can go a little bit more. And what he didn't accept is he didn't accept not trying. Now he said to me in off air and we've spoken many times, he said, I didn't know it was gonna happen. He said, this is back in the 90s. He said, it's not like it's now where you click a button and you have, you know, access to people. He's like, I don't know. If you call the studio, do you call 1-800-NOTRE DAME to get to the. He's like, you just get after it. And that's been the biggest thing in the sense of a lot of people that know that some of the stuff we've done with Rudy and I and I say he's bigger and better in real life than he is on the movie. And most people look at him or think of him as Sean Austin, the actor. He's just unbelievable guy. But that was probably the most influential story that I had just because he told it. And it just took it to a such more real non Hollywood version that to this day stands out. And it's a year, a year and a month after we recorded I love that story.

It's one of my favorite movies growing up as well too. I was able to attend a Notre Dame season opener a couple years ago. And walking into the stadium, you're in awe. You're like 50 yard line seats halfway up. They won versus Temple. And just the drama of it and the fanfare it's giving me chills right now thinking about it. Because I love that story. Anytime that movies on, I gotta watch it. But yeah, most people don't realize he was in his mid-20s, he worked for a few years in the Iron Plane. If I remember correctly.

He was actually. That is true. But he was also in the military as well.

That's right. That's right. And that for as well too. And then everything that happened with his friend passing on and then the struggle of getting in and staying there and then just going through all that stuff. It's such a great story and I'm a big believer that's like on one of my top four movies to watch if I'm ever down. That Cinderella man, the boxing movie, right? Yeah, yeah. J.J. yeah.

You know, the one thing that I just say too quickly about that story is today's day and age with movies and, you know, 3D, 4D, you know, soon it's gonna be 12D. The thing that people connect with that story is he wasn't a 40 year old that went back to college and became the MVP and went on to a professional career for 20 years and made $150 million. What people don't realize is his story, as crazy as it is, he played in two college downs. And that's. People don't realize is he was on the kickoff team, so they kicked the ball off and then he was on one defensive play when he got the sack of the quarterback. But it's just. That's the best part about the story is it's so powerful, but it's something that anybody can do. So if somebody was 6 foot 10 and had insane athletic ability or the ability to throw a fastball 104 miles an hour, the reality is most people really couldn't relate to it. Maybe it's a good story and it sounds good and it's a good movie, but that's the thing that he says, and he's unbelievably humble about it. Which hit me as he said, chris, I didn't do anything that anybody else couldn't do. Yeah, I just didn't give up. And he said, every time I got knocked down, I. E. Mike Tyson comedy, he's like, every time I got bloody lip and I was sore, he's like, I just got back up. I didn't know what else to do. He's like, that's how I was raised. And he was from the Midwest and that was just his mentality. And he had a goal of playing in Notre Dame and He told his brothers and friends and they all laughed at him. And somehow somewhere he kept going, which is, that's the crazy part. When everybody told him no, everybody told him was never going to happen. His dad and his brother said, okay, Rudy, you know, when you suit up, I'll be there, don't worry. Not in any way, shape or form thinking that was going to happen. And lo and behold.

Yeah, exactly. He had the world against him and he is still just as passionate about what he did and promoting and really inspiring people to take action and do amazing things by just showing up on a regular basis. Still today I saw an interview with him as well and he is still just as motivated and fired up. He is Notre Dame's biggest fan too as well.

He's nuts in that way.

A little nuts, a little craziness. A little bit. But hey, I think you've got to be a little crazy to find success. You got to be a little crazy to go against the grain, to tell everybody no, I'm going to prove you wrong and go out there and make things happen. I mean I had when everything hit the fan for me years ago, I had people tell me I couldn't do it. And so I sold everything here in Austin. What I thought would be a 30 week journey turned into three and a half, four plus years. It really skyrocketed thing. I had a couple hundred bucks in my bank account at some point. I had one or I had negative money in my bank account at the turn there. I think a lot of people went through that. You don't want to give up, you want to keep going. You can do those little things and get rock and rollin. What's your favorite go to book? You have a favorite book that you love reading now that you're working on yours and I can't wait for. When you finish that book, you need to let me know because I want to buy a bunch of copies and send them out to our memberships out there as well too.

No, I appreciate that means a lot. Thank you. I don't have a go to book. What I will say is in my other office, which is across the hall, I have three bookshelves of books. And the thing that I share with people is I don't give out any of my books. I underline, I highlight, I circle, I fold pages down. If you were in my office, you say, hey Chris, let me check that out. I'll do you one better. I'll say, you know what, I'll send you a copy for you to Have. So the reason that I share that is what I'll do is I have a ton of different books in sales and motivational personal growth where I'll just look at and I'll say, you know what? I want to flip through that. But one of my favorites for the last few years. I'll give you two. And everyone knows it's the secret, which I think is amazing in the sense of the law of attraction. But I think the one thing people miss is what the book doesn't say is. It doesn't say, sit in your underwear and your bed and say, I'm successful, I'm a millionaire, and do nothing. It talks about then going out and you got to take the action. And the other book I like absolutely love, just because we talked about briefly, is the 10x rule by Grant Cardone. And the reason I like that is Grant says, and this is early Grant, when he was just getting after it. And he says everything he's ever done that he achieved any level of success took 10 times the fill in the blank. So it's 10 times a phone call, 10 times the activity, 10 times the walking in random people's offices. But the thing that Grant says, which hit me like a ton of bricks, is he said when most people are not on target to hit their goal, what they usually do is they then lower their goal. They change their mind. So.

Well, you know what?

I really wanted to get 100 grand of commissions this year. I think I'll be okay with 75. And he said it's the exact opposite. What you need to do is you need to 10x your activity, your appointments. And that's where I think people missed the boat. But those are two books that I love and I flip through a couple times every year.

Yeah, no, I agree. Both those are phenomenal books out there. We've got 10x on the shelf. He's actually got his 10 con, 10x con going on right now in Vegas as well. A buddy of mine who's speaking on there in the mortgage industry today, with everything going on out there and with really the craziness of society these days, the coronavirus and the elections, God forbid. That train wreck on the debate last night, I had to turn it off and move on to something else because I was cracking up on everything. People want to blame other people for their problems. And I'm a big believer that you're at where you're at today because of every decision you've made has led you to where you're at today. Nobody else fault Nobody held a gun to your head. Nobody said you couldn't do that. Has there been a time and we all have that. Has there been a time that you got sucked into that? Like, we all have the point where you're like, ugh, it just drives you bonkers. And what did you do to kind of eliminate that from your day in or day out, or what did you do to get beyond that?

Yeah, I think that's a great point. And I think it's something that we all struggle with and I myself still encounter. And what I had to do mentally, physically, emotionally, is I had to change the fact that I needed to say that whatever happened to your point about these decisions led me to here. Whatever it is, good, bad, horrible situation, I changed the channel and I said, instead of this is happening to me, I said, this is happening for me. And I said, I have one choice after that is I can be bitter or I can be better. And I've always made a decision to try to be better. And it doesn't mean that everything is Pollyanna and wonderful and sunshine, but what it means is that you have to say, look, nothing is going to happen a week ago, two weeks ago. Nobody can go back now. Maybe 10, 20, 30 years from now, we'll be able to go back and rewrite our own history in some ways. But until that happens, you have a choice. You can either play the blame game and say, well, Scott did this, or this happened. That might be the truth. Maybe Scott messed up and Chris messed up. It's irrelevant. You are where you are today. And for me, again, it goes back to what I just said is. I said, this is not happening to me. It's happening for me. I need to figure out what is the very next step I need to do. And I can either be bitter about this or I can try to make it, have me be better in whatever shape or form. And it's in no way is it simple, is it easy. It was not one five minute conversation with myself and then I just snapped my finger and said, I got it. It was many days struggling. It was a lot of affirmations, a lot of journaling, writing stuff down. But once you get your mindset where you say, hey, I gotta attack this and I can change it, but it's not gonna happen on its own. And I forget what the quote is, but I'm sure you've heard and read it, is nothing amazing, nothing great has ever happened on its own. It's all because of multiple people, multiple events. But something you said much earlier is massive amount of action is the answer to all problems, all goals, all challenges and objectives is you need to put in a massive amount of action no matter what you want to accomplish such great stuff there.

Now Chris, you're also looking to get out and help audiences, help sales teams by speaking more out there. I'm sure you've got a goal for that this year too, don't you as far as your public speaking?

Yep, I have a goal of both a number of people audience as well as live events. And for me, you know, my objective is to over deliver. Every time I go there, I love to get on the phone with individual or team and go through exactly what their desired result is and then reverse engineer and say, okay, here's how we're going to deliver that amazing 90 minute keynote or here's how we're going to deliver that six week coaching program. And for me, I want to do that as much as I can. And the reason I say that is because I feel we at no Quit Living have an amazing message and mission and we just want to get it out there to as many people. And you know, the one thing I will say that is important for me is I have no monetary number behind that. Obviously if somebody said would you rather have million dollars or a dollar? Of course, me personally, I got three young kids and I want to do a lot of things, but I have never tied it to that specifically because that's not nearly as important as building our brand and message and mission the right way.

Amen to that, brother. Well, I appreciate you coming here on the Note Closure show. What's the best way for our listeners out there in Note Nation to reach out to you to plug into what you're doing or to talk with you about coming out and helping motivate them as an emcee or speaker or training with them? What's the, what's the best way people to reach out to Chris?

Yeah, no, I appreciate that. So the most active social media is Instagram and that's just that. No Quit Living. Our website is no Quitliving Calm. But I share my personal email address with everybody because I love connecting and it's very simple. It's my first name, chris@noquitliving.com and we respond to every single email. I think it's amazing. And I've reached out to some people that are multimillionaires and a couple billionaires and they've responded. So I say to people that people respond and we're always going to respond. But I Love connecting and I'd love the opportunity to just spread our quick message. And last thing I'll say is anybody that wants to get involved with any of our positivity notes, it's real simple. As we fill them out, we send them to you, and we try to make it as easy as we can.

That's awesome, man. I love it. I love it. We'll have those links to his website and his social media all on the show notes@weclosenotes.com or the podcast page for everybody out there. But yeah, check him out. He does no Quit Living, Instagram, all sorts of great quotes. And then it looks like you're. You got some workout goals there. You're throwing up some weight when some of the images I'm seeing on there, brother, you're leading by example.

Yeah, we have a whole accountability tribe team where there's a bunch of us that get to the gym at 4am when it opens, and we push the heck out of each other. No, days off is kind of our theme. And the cool thing is I'm feeling down or something. Somebody there is like, yo, Chris, let's go. And vice versa. Someone walks in a little bit out of it, I say, hey, let's put the time. And I was on someone else's podcast last night, and I'll just share this. I've never known anybody that has ever said, after a workout's completed, I really wish I didn't do it. And I feel really, really terrible. And I wish I was back in bed. It's always the opposite. It's hard, there's a struggle, but when you're done, it always feels better.

One of the famous quotes from Dennis Rodman, the Wild man, the worm, is how he used to work out every day, no matter how late he stayed up or how hard he partied, because he said he always felt better afterwards. And that's what made him be the best at what he was. Not just wearing a wedding gown, but being the number one defender in the NBA, number one rebounder.

And he used to work out almost after every single game as well.

Yep.

You'd see him in the locker room on the bike, doing stuff, and people say, how do you do it? And he just, he wanted to be the best, you know, he had to do that. And he did it.

Yeah, exactly. Well, Chris, thank you again so much for coming on. The no Closer show is just great nuggets of success. And like I said, guys, go check out his podcast, no Quit Living. Great shows, great guests out there. I mentioned the episodes yesterday. He's got a great mix of entrepreneurs, ex athletes out there who are just really sharing their message and really taking things to the whole next level. Because it's like he said before, we've all got our no Quit story once, twice, three times, whatever. It's just those that are the ones that are top have not given up and overcome huge obstacles, sometimes themselves, sometimes other circumstances, but have gone out, do big things. So check it out. No Quit Living the podcast. Check out the website as well for Chris. And you go out and take some action, everybody, and we'll see you all at the top.

Bye, Sam.