Initiation to the Secrets of Cosmos - The energetic chance of family
29 Jul 2021 · 28 min
In this episode of the podcast “Conversations with the Universe,” host Daya, a channeler who claims to receive guidance from subtle cosmic energies after a near‑death experience, converses with a channeled entity referred to as Speaker B. The dialogue explores the spiritual dynamics of the human family as a crucible for soul development. Speaker B explains that the family structure simultaneously offers protection and imposes a constriction that limits a soul’s innate power, creating a lifelong challenge to reclaim that power. Human families are contrasted with animal families, which release offspring much earlier, highlighting the unique intensity of human familial bonds. The conversation outlines how an ideal, “cosmic‑law‑aligned” family would support a child’s energetic expansion while still providing basic care, and why most current families hinder spiritual growth. Practical guidance is offered for individuals feeling trapped: recognize the family as a temporary nest, honor gratitude but feel free to separate when the soul’s impulse to expand arises, and balance responsibility toward parents with personal spiritual goals. The episode also discusses the moral nuance of answering a family member’s plea for help—service can be a catalyst for soul growth but should not eclipse one’s own spiritual path. Finally, Speaker B introduces the concept of a post‑family “apprenticeship,” a period in which a person learns who they truly are after leaving the family structure, emphasizing self‑responsibility, love, and intentional action as the keys to unfolding the soul.
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Dear human, dear soul, I welcome you to my podcast series Conversations with the Universe. Since a near-death experience, I have the gift to communicate with the subtle energies of the cosmos. This happens in a form of deep meditation in which I ask certain entities of the world beyond to communicate with me. As one of the first contacts with the other world, my old friend and teacher, friend of the Indians, showed himself to me, and it is now a great pleasure for me to introduce you to these conversations as a supplement to the books. Please excuse me if the terms and our articulations are not perfect. Our mother tongue is German, but we try to translate it to the best of our ability. Thank you for understanding. Dear friend of the Indians, please talk to me about the subject of self-realization within the family.
Family is a very big challenge for the soul. Because on the one hand the structure demands the realization of your individual self, and on the other hand it demands your integration into the family structure. When a soul incarnates into the body of a human being, it begins to develop its energy. You have learned this already. But the family structure establishes a form of limitation that creates the first perception of limitation in the body through external circumstances. Of course, you will perceive these limitations differently depending on your parents' level of awareness. Still, family mostly means a certain construction of the soul— sorry, a certain constriction of the soul. This is an unbiased structure that you have created to allow you to grow up in a more protected environment.
Don't animals also have family structures? By raising its offspring, every animal creates a sort of a family, doesn't it?
This is correct. But your human family structures are far more diverse and more intense than the structures of animals. The animals, all animals, grow up under parental protection but then they leave the family to pursue their own path much earlier than humans do.
Okay, I understand. You want to point out that after they leave their parents' protection, the family connection between animals, if there even still is one, is very different from the connection between humans, right?
That is correct too.
Well, after all, we are not animals in that sense, but human, and this is why it is different with us, right?
Yes, exactly. And this is why I am telling you about this. For the challenges of this way of family life are very important and comprehensive. You have to know that the family is your first really big test in life. Because only when you recognize the family as a powerful structure created by humans, you will be able to reap incredible benefits from this structure for your later development. But this experience of restriction is connected to many risks that a soul has to experience. I want to lovingly point this out because you have no knowledge about the things that take shape in your soul during the time of confinement with the family. First of all, the experience of constriction as a state of powerlessness is very powerful because the soul experiences the restriction of its energy and it has to accept a state of inaction which can lead to a perceived deficiency of all powers within it. This lack of power in turn creates a sort of imbalance within the soul, which will inform your actions more and more. With this I mean to say that the suppression of your soul's innate power through the structures of the family is the basic problem that you encounter during your soul's development, even years after the inactive period.
But inactive period, you mean the period in which you have to do what your parents tell you and when you cannot really carry out your own free will, in other words, your childhood, correct?
Yes, exactly.
And you wish to point out that it isn't this period alone that is problematic, but that it remains a constant challenge during your entire life to find this suppressed power of your soul again and then actually develop it during your life, correct?
This is exactly the problem. You can imagine this like a flower that has certain size. Imagine for an instant a rose. You take this rose and put it into a pot that is much smaller than the rose can grow to be. The rose then begins to twist and turn and go off in different directions as it grows. It is confined, and still it grows. So there is a sort of manipulation happening in this structure. The rose may have grown in a circle or in all sorts of funny shapes, but it is far from a rose that has grown straight in a skyward direction. Then you take away the pot and let it grow freely. But what do you think it will do?
A good question. I'm trying to imagine it. Hmm, I need to think about it. I believe that all roses want to grow skywards, but that not every one of them has the necessary strength, so that many of them will continue to grow close to the ground. I don't know.
It's pretty close to what I mean to say. Because if your soul is powerful enough, you will manage to throw off the structure and grow skywards as you were meant to be doing. But those who lack the strength and the consciousness will try to spread out close to the earth, but a rose needs the light and wants to grow skywards, like all plants.
I understand. So the structure of the family is meant to protect the offspring, but at the same time there is a danger of constricting the power of their souls, and then it is a new challenge to escape this constriction, right?
Right, right, dear. This shape has been created by humans and hence follows its own laws, not the cosmic laws.
Well, what would the cosmic law suggest about growing up within the structure of a family then? What would this structure look like if it were in harmony with the cosmic laws?
That would be simple.
Uh-huh.
The humans give birth to the baby and then allow it to grow whichever way it wishes while supporting its growing energy. Of course, the structure of the family may need a few rules that have to be respected. But ultimately and above all, the members of the family should support the development of their child's soul. Always. Then, one day the child will be strong enough to follow his own path and will formulate this clearly. The parents know of this important step and will lovingly and respectfully help the child to experience expansion. This may happen very early or later, as the case may be, but the time is really not relevant here because what counts is the speed of the soul. This means that the child will sooner or later cast off the family's protection of his own volition in order to pursue the unfolding of his full potential. Then begins the next step of the unfolding of the soul: the experience of your own power among strangers. This is a further and very important experience that teaches you to handle your strength wisely and always with loving intent, no matter whom you meet.
Okay, so far I understand, but children cannot feed or clothe themselves. The structure of the family exists mainly in order to help the child survive, right?
Right. But in a world that would support expansion, survival would not be an issue. Survival among humans would be assured because everyone would automatically help a younger person to get food. That would either be on the basis of an exchange or just in the spirit of mutual support. The knowledge of the expansion of the soul would change the experience of childhood profoundly. On the one hand, encountering the soul to exp— sorry, on the one hand, encouraging the soul to expand would be the best method to unfold the full potential of the soul. And on the other hand, it would be a wonderful, wise opportunity for parents as well as other people to teach expansion and infinite love. For only if you know and live expansion and love, you can truly interact with your own or other people's children.
This means that the family structures that we have at this time are not really ideal as far as the soul's energy is concerned.
Yes, that is correct. And I think that you should soon change that, for the way that you treat children, in other words, souls and their energy, urgently needs to change. For because this construction, this feeling of powerlessness and suppression in these current family structures exists, a long phase of trials and tribulations will ensue for the soul that incarnated as a human being in order to gain different experiences, but does not want to only experience constriction by way of a family.
I understand you want to point out that very, very many people never get over the problems encountered during the time of powerlessness childhood, and may need a whole lifetime in order to find their true power, and often do not even begin to find it, correct?
Unfortunately, this is exactly what I want to say. Your current family structures are very questionable because they do not support the soul. I cannot help noticing how the people in their fear and lovelessness treat each other without any respect, and this is exclusively a result of the unconscious way that the rose was manipulated.
Please help the people. After all, these structures have existed for countries or even for centuries or even longer. There are many parents who look after their children who are after their children very lovingly but still without awareness. The children do not wish to sever their connection with them, but they sense that they cannot really unfold while they are with them. Therefore, they begin to pull away, yet they are fearful of taking the step. They are fearful of being disowned, etc. Please give the people some clearer impulses on how and how they could deal with this problem, the problem of the family in general.
This is a very important question, dear. I thank you for that. The family, dear humans, is a structure that helps you to survive the first years of existence, and you will experience much support through the structure such as food and warmth. But life, dear humans, is much more than these family structures. You have to realize that this is a nest that you should and must fly if you wish to experience the unfolding of your soul. The love and the energy of the soul inside you want you to unfold and to live. Further than you could ever imagine. But since the structure of the family can only support you for a limited time, it could hamper this unfolding. And you have to realize that the true unfolding of your true being will not happen within this family, but outside of it. Therefore, leave it in gratitude as soon as you feel the impulse. And do not fear to continue to unfold this power inside you. Everything that you are wants to be explored and to live, but it can only do so when you give it enough space to unfold. The family usually does not do this. Family has its advantages that may have been important in your life for a time. The people who are your parents will always remain your parents, but at the end of the day, they are also souls who incarnated in order to have their very own experiences, and you need not cling to them in a lifelong connection, for the structures of the family are not the structures that your soul has created. The experience of connection through the encounter with other people and souls is far, far more expansive and powerful than the connection that you would be able to experience within the family. Therefore, see this institution for what it is and move on. Your parents will continue to grow in their energy, and you will continue to grow in your own energy. No connection. Has to remain there if this is not your mutual wish.
So you want to communicate to the people, if this is how they feel, that it can also be right to separate completely from their parents?
Yes, exactly.
But don't the children also have responsibility for their parents? I mean, the parents have given so much to the child: energy, love, money. Is it really in cosmic harmony to just leave them forever? Isn't that very disrespectful?
This is also a very important question because no, dearest, it is not disrespectful. It has been the parents' choice to bring a child into their life, but this decision does not entail any obligation for this life nor any lasting connection in the sense that that I mean it. There may be a connection of gratitude, yes, but you do not need any other connections because you will create many, many new supportive connections during your life. The family will help and support you for a time, but when this time is over, do move on. That is all that I want to say. If you want to maintain this connection, you are of course free to do so. I just wanted to point out that the connections that you will have to other people may be much more powerful than you believe.
But I myself perceive family connection as something very strong. People always say that blood is thicker than water, and what they mean by that is that This is a very special kind of connection, isn't it?
This is not a spiritual truth, dearest. The spiritual truth is different.
Okay, so this is human perception when you say, "I will stick by my family." The spiritual perception states a different truth, namely that family connections are spiritually much, much weaker than the connection to other new people, right?
Exactly. Of course, the individual life is a very distinct thing, and I cannot say much about that here, but generally speaking, it is important that you know the difference. The connections are not made by human rules but by the souls. Therefore, please realize that you are free to maintain a strong connection to family members But if you do not feel any connection, then do dissolve the structures and move on. This is not a spiritual problem, but a spiritual necessity.
But when you know— if you see that a family member is not well, of course you have a certain responsibility for these people, and this responsibility binds you to them, and it can cost you much time and energy. And of course, this hampers the unfolding of your energy. What do you suggest in such situations?
This is a complete complicated situation because responsibility is something that I cannot allow to fall by the wayside in our considerations. Of course, your mutual responsibility is an important force and it means that you cannot just drop each other if you, one of you needs the other, which means that if you are old and you need the help of your children, then please ask them. If they are willing to help, then of course this is a loving act. But if the children or the parents refuse to help because it is impossible to support the unfolding of the soul this way, then please understand cosmic energy acts through people and cannot always take the path of the special attention provided by the family. But this may not be a negative act, as you are wont to judge it, but the decision of the soul acting self-responsibly not to help.
Is this power, this way to Live not ungrateful, disrespectful, and unloving towards those people who need our help?
This is exactly the point, dearest. It is the question that is the important thing. If you ask, you should receive help. That is a cosmic law, and you should comply with this request. Therefore, when a family member asks you for help, do not just think about your own unfolding, but use this request for your unfolding. This is a very individual thing, but I want to make a note of this law at this point: you must not refuse a play for help from a loving person, especially not a play from a family member, for selfish reasons. A play for help outweighs the goal of the soul.
Hold on, please. So by the plea outweighs the goal, you mean that even if you are already on the path of your soul, you need to turn back when you receive a request for help in order to stay in cosmic harmony?
That is exactly right. The development of your soul on the one hand may require that you walk away from this state of being, but on the other hand, Answering a family member's prayer for help can provide another opportunity for your soul to unfold by being of service.
This is a good point because I know people who, by entering into this service, have then completely abandoned their own quest of developing their soul. In other words, they have given themselves up in order to fulfill this request. Is that really such a good idea from a spiritual point of view?
That is a completely different problem, because you do not need to forget completely about the direction you were walking in. I mean to say by this that you should keep your spiritual goal in mind, but being of service initiates a transformation of the soul that you should accept. With gratitude. Yet you must never subordinate your spiritual goal to this servitude. This period of service should enrich your soul for a limited period of time, but after that you need to take up your spiritual quest again. This may mean that you will have to leave the people who need you, but as long as you do not just abandon them, but, but make sure that they are cared for, then that is acceptable.
But for that you need financial means that not everyone has access to. What would your advice be in that case?
This is complicated, and I do not have an answer to that, but I would like to encourage you to find a way to pursue your spiritual goal while making sure that these people are being cared for. That is all that I have to say about that.
Okay, I understand. Would you like to say anything else on this subject? Yes.
While your childhood is a period of powerlessness, dear humans, you are not powerless. Walk into your own form through the form of the family. That is self-responsibility, and that is where you will come into your own. All you need is your intent and the readiness that the expansion of your soul starts, and that moment when you overcome all human structures.
That means that you want to remove the guilty conscience that was instilled in us for choosing to pursue our own path, and you want to point out our self-responsibility if we want to break these structures, even in view of our decision about responsibility.
Yes, that's right. Please, please do not forget to act in a loving manner, no matter what you do, not matter what you choose, whether as a parent or as a child. Act lovingly, communicate lovingly, avoid aggression and act lovingly. All is doable, all is changeable, all is livable, but most of all it is when full of love.
I understand, but the human structures are generally for support They cannot be wrong in principle, can't they?
Yes, that is all correct. I understand the intention behind the system, but I have to point out that the system itself does not allow for any spiritual development whatsoever. Unfortunately, that is the case. I wish you had created a different form a long time ago that would make spiritual growth possible. But it is not so. Spiritual growth tends to start the moment you break those structures.
But what should grandparents do when they see that grandchildren need help, but the parents are unable to give this help? Isn't it good when they have the grandparents who can help?
Here you are touching on a wholly different problem. That of Parenthood. I would like to write a whole book about that. It is much too complex to talk about this in just one chapter.
Okay, I understand. Would you like to say anything else?
The most important things have been said. If you understand what Spiritual Development means, then you understood what I have said.
What is the next subject?
The next subject will be apprenticeship. Human apprenticeship. The people undergo a time of apprenticeship in which they have to learn who they are and what they are truly capable of. I want to point out that you all experience this apprenticeship, but mostly on an unconscious level.
So you could basically say that this apprenticeship is the time that starts when you walk away from your childhood home in order to discover yourself. The apprenticeship of the soul is similar to the apprenticeship for human profession, isn't it?
No, I'm sorry, that is not quite correct. It is not the soul which has to undergo an apprenticeship. The soul is always what it is. But when a human being leaves the family structure behind, there begins a time in which they have to learn who they are and what exactly their soul is.
Ah, and you wish to talk about that, right?
Yes, Daya, I would love to.
I'm looking forward to. Thank you. Love.
Thank you.
Love.





