The Wise Brotherhood - level 4/5/6
15 Sept 2023 · 36 min
Sylvia Leifheit interviews a spiritual entity about three levels of the Wise Brotherhood. The Blue Gods purify rigid souls by applying a loosening coat to their energy fields. The Colorful Gods support souls seeking growth, while the Wise Brotherhood itself, made of split-off Mother Soul portions, balances, teaches, and answers direct questions.
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Dear human, dear soul, I welcome you to my podcast series Conversations with the Universe. Since a near-death experience, I have the gift to communicate with subtle levels of the cosmos. The knowledge from these for us invisible forms of energy I capture in my books, and it is now a great pleasure for me to share this knowledge, these conversations, with you as a supplement to the books. Please excuse me if the terms and articulations are not perfect. Our mother tongue is German, but we try to translate it to the best of our abilities. Thank you. My dear friend and teacher, you said there are different levels, different gradations, and as I recall, the realm of wise brotherhood comprised the 4th, 5th, and 6th levels. Is that correct?
That is correct.
What are the differences Differences between each level, please describe.
Several different materializations of entities reside in these areas. There is not much to tell about the level of the Masters in the fourth realm, except that their energetics form very oval entities which shine slightly bluish. And beautifully bright. They move majestically and full of love. The level of the forces above them in the 5th realm is mainly illuminated by different powerful energies, not only oval, but also with other shapes and again other colorings. They are, if you want to put it that way, more individual, more colorful. And above, on the 6th level, is the Wise Brotherhood in its purest form. There are several groups of very wise and bright forms of different kinds. They are tall and expansive. And these 3 are the levels of the Wise Brotherhood because Because they all work intermingled and interconnected. In essence, they stay again and again in these respective realms, but they also work with each other. These levels are very interconnected, which is unique compared to the other levels we have described.
Yes, that's right. But isn't it difficult for the beings from the 4th level to go to the beings on the 6th level? No.
Not really. They can travel this area. Maybe not as long, similar to your energetics now when you have me in your body. But they can travel the realms. It is of course easier for those in the upper realms than for those in the lower ones.
Okay, so I can picture them all being in constant exchange, right?
Exactly.
And all this to balance the cosmos.
Well, not only that, dear. We act in different ways with different tasks. Balancing is of course the supreme principle to maintain the energetics of the whole cosmos and to keep it healthy. But others teach, transform, support, and promote entities of other planes or for other souls like yours.
I would like to go into a little more detail about the respective areas. When we say there are bluish energies in the 4th level, what exactly does that mean? Can you please tell me more about it? What is their purpose, or what distinguishes them from the 5th level, the colorful energies, and the 6th level, the white energies?
Gladly. You have to think of it as a large group of entities, but with their own distinct group qualities. If you were to visit all the realms, you would not really notice the transition from one realm to the next, but experience it— experiences it as one specific, somewhat blurry realm. They all work into each other, through each other, with each other.
I know what you are trying to tell me, but then why call it the 4th, 5th, and 6th realm? Why not just call them all the 4th realm?
Because they are indeed home to very clearly distinguishable qualities of energies.
So you are saying in order to better categorize, these qualities, which is what we want to do here. It's clearer and more distinct if we distinguish between the individual levels.
Yes, that's exactly how it is.
Okay, well then, let's jump into the fourth level. What is the special quality of the beings of the fourth level? What can they do that the other levels can't?
They transform energies that dwell on Earth or other planets in their own way into expansive, powerful energies.
Do you mean soul cores or energies in general?
Energies.
Mm-hmm.
Soul cores can only expand from within themselves.
Yes.
The Blue Gods, as I like to call them, have the special ability to purify the force fields of the souls but of course not the soul core. Therefore, please let us always make this distinction: they do work in energy field of souls, but first of all, they can only do this upon request and permission, and second of all, not into the deep soul core.
Let's summarize. So the Blue Gods as you call them, are a kind of a clinic or toolbox of the cosmos. Which expression would suit them better?
Tools.
Tools? Just tools?
Well, tools of light. They act in and with their power into these soul energies and thus also cause transformation of the fields. But really only as far as it is allowed, desired, and possible in the respective potential.
Okay, I understand. That is a very specific kind of energy that can definitely treat and also purify the soul forces in a way.
Mm-hmm.
But can you tell us what determines that the Blue Gods help and not the White Spheres, for example?
When the Blue Gods intervene, they are more or less the last chance of the soul not to fall apart, to tear apart.
Ah, meaning their field of application is that of souls that have become rigid and brittle. Would such a soul have to actively ask for help in order for for the Blue Gods to come.
Yes.
The problem is that the very people who live in such a way that their souls become rigid do not know this tool and even worse are not interested in it. They don't even realize that they are about to become so brittle.
Dear Sylvia Leifheitheit, we only list possibilities. Whether the souls make use of them or not is not up to us.
Yes, I know.
Okay.
So the Blue Gods act in the cosmos whenever a soul is in the very critical phase of tearing. Do I remember correctly that this phase may have already started to develop in the body, but that things become even more critical when a soul goes into shock? Mhm. Do the Blue Gods Do gods appear when a soul is still in the body or only after a soul has been ejected from the body?
They actually purify more when the souls are still in the body, because there is the connection of the respective soul components. Outside the body this is very difficult and risky. A soul in a state of shock after an accident or similar is usually not as collected and receptive in its readiness for purification as the soul in the body.
That makes sense. If a person feels that they are rigid, inflexible in spirit, that is the opposite of soft and loving, then they should call upon the Blue Gods, the blue entities, right away and ask them for help instead of having to to do that while in a state of shock.
Of course. Absolutely, absolutely.
I will then make a note on how to do the invocations in the chapter "Tools," okay?
Yes, please.
Have you ever observed them working at the moment a soul was being ejected from a body or while it was in a body?
Yes, of course.
Please describe, what was this like?
When they work into the soul force that has asked for help in the body, they are like a kind of soft rock that covers the soul.
Does it rock— this rock have a color?
No, it is slightly faded.
What do you mean by slightly faded?
It is slightly faded, not quite clear, but still withish and cleansing.
And why is this coat not clear? What do you think?
Because this particular coloring, if you can even call it that, carries the elements of purification.
Ah, but it could be very clear, very pure, transparent coat, couldn't it?
No.
Why not?
Because a transparent power cannot have a purifying balancing effect. After all, you have to balance something that is contaminated. If you use a transparent coat, it cannot take on the impurity. It would merely wrap itself around the other like a field, but it would have no effect. This quality requires a kind of essence.
I see. So when the soul is still in the body, they put this coat, kind of a coat, around that body.
Yes.
And then?
This coat then seeps through the cells of the body as if it were liquid and fills the soul force. This energetics works softly and very lovingly into this soul so that the encapsulated rigid forms begin to loosen, to unstick.
Okay, and if the soul was ejected from the body, how do they do it?
Then they also go to this soul frequency and try to wrap it in a kind of protective field, but this is not so easy either, because the circumstances that this soul experiences make it difficult, especially because of the unfocused, in the sense of scattered, power of the soul.
You are saying that soul energy is simply more compressed inside the body than outside the body?
Exactly.
Okay, I get that. How do the Blue Gods move? I mean, how do they get there? Have you ever observed that?
Oh yes, of course. They are in constant motion. These instances arise again and again, and therefore these helping purifying impulses are needed again and again.
Okay, so do they provide this impulse from their plane, or do they go directly where they are needed?
They provide it from their plane, but some go right to the spot. It really varies depending on the intensity of the resonance.
I see. That takes us to the 5th realm. You said they have other shapes there, they are not just oval and their coloring is more colorful. What is the quality of these entities? What is their purpose in the cosmos?
Their power works much further into the souls than that of the Blue Gods.
Okay, so they're just as active as the Blue Gods but have a more intense quality?
Yes, they protect the transformation of the soul energies.
Please explain this in more detail. What do you mean by protect?
All souls transform, and on their way they make mistakes. The unawareness caused by the impurity within them has a very obstructive and blocking effect on the growth of these souls. But if the souls ask for support on the path of change and ask for growth, these colorful guards become active. Perhaps the reason why they are so colorful is that they can attend to very different soul qualities.
Please, please, keep talking.
If a soul is ejected from the body, it needs support. But each soul energy is different, and in order to always be able to support this differentness, there are these colorful gods, as I am referring to them here, to make things easier. This assures that if the blue gods cannot help, others are ready and can transform the dissonance in the souls. All this, of course, only if permission is given and the request was voiced.
Yes, sure, I understand that. And what do the colorful gods do when the soul is still in the body?
If the soul is still in the body, They are the constant companion in your meditations and other transformative mind-altering tools. They are ready and help in different ways to raise the energies.
But they too can't affect the soul's core, can they? Can they?
No, of course not. We are only talking about the field of application in the force fields of the the soul, never in the soul core. These are always only supporting measures but by no means profound changing impulses. These must be set by the soul itself.
So the field of application of the colorful energy fields to colorful entities is ultimately a bit more than just that of the blue gods who mainly help the endangered soul The colorful entities help those who are not only in this danger but who generally want to grow.
Yes, dear.
Okay, I see. That means that they are a bit of a mix. They do what the blue gods do in the critical state of a soul, and at the same time they also help the souls who want to grow and mature spiritually.
Yes, you have summarized that very nicely, dear. That's exactly how it is.
Okay, well then, let's move on to the next level, the 6th level. Generally, you have called the 4th, 5th, and 6th level the Wise Brotherhood, but only the beings of the 6th level are white in color, right?
Yes, but you are confusing the words. I never said that they were white, but they are wise. The wise brotherhood is not the brotherhood of white color, but the brotherhood of wisdom.
Yes, yes, yes.
Do you see?
Yes, that's how I wrote it in all my books too. Still, on the 6th level they are without a color, right?
Right.
Could you then say this is the level of the the white knowing gods?
Yes, if you want to see and describe it that way, absolutely. They are indeed the wise gods, although all of these energies ultimately make up the wise brotherhood, because they make up the high vibrational helping energies. If you could see with your human eyes the forces that make up these energies, you would describe them as appearing very clear and bright, full of light, and almost translucently transparent. The last level of the Wise Brotherhood is whiter than the others in terms of color.
But aren't they also wiser?
No, no, no, no, don't misunderstand me. You distort if you think like that. The wise Brotherhood consists of the different levels I have already described. All of them are in close communication and thus make up the realm that constitutes wisdom. Do you understand?
Yes, yes. This 6th area is the plane of Brotherhood?
Is inhabited exclusively? By the energies that were not and will not be incarnated. It is a distinctive force created as a balancing impulse giver created from the Mother Soul.
Please keep talking.
These energies are different from what you know about soul energies. Their nature is not directed via the soul core and not encased by a let's say, soul field. Instead, they are large energies of consciousness without the expanding fields of the souls. Do you understand? I am trying to say that they are not souls, but best described as large soul cores. Do you understand?
Yes, I'm beginning to understand. Calling them large soul cores makes it a little clearer, easier to understand. If they aren't souls, what exactly makes up their energetics?
They are larger than souls, they are oval, full of light, wise, very fast in their movements when they move, and they are home to a great deal of wisdom and knowledge.
I find that very interesting because that means there are no souls in the blue or in the colorful gods in this part. No soul energies. Are you sure that no soul energy goes there?
Dear, please don't distort things. There is no going there, as you just said. These energies altogether work through realms 4, 5, and 6. Time. And again you do find moving soul energies at these frequencies and vice versa. There is a lively exchange. I have nevertheless labeled the distinct structure of the individual areas, even if these act interwined.
I see. If I may take the image of a school, then these areas are the individual classes.
If you like this example, yes, why not? Although in these realms teaching is not received but purified— sorry, but provided.
Yes, of course, I know what you mean. Okay, so the level of the white Brotherhood, wise Brotherhood, consists of 3 areas where these different qualities of energies reside.
Exactly.
And these entities each vibrate at a certain frequency.
So is it.
You actually only talk about these frequencies?
What a funny question, Sylvia Leifheitheit. Of course. That's exactly what I do and all I do. I find your statement astonishing.
Well, I'm sorry, it's really difficult coming from a world of spatiality to keep reminding myself that you never describe a spatiality, you talk about a state. I have to keep reminding myself on that, you know.
Oh yes, I understand that. But to simplify: just as in the world you inhabit there are various different aggregate states of the elements, and the subtle form of water is gas, for example, the pure energy fields in the realm of the wise Brotherhood also become finer and finer, and those which are endowed with a very high consciousness are therefore the clearest and purest spirits, if you allow me to call them that.
You can call them ghosts if you want, I don't mind.
Just kidding.
Feel free to joke around it if you like. So let's summarize: the highest vibrational state of energies is the realm of the Wise Brotherhood. In the realm of the Wise Brotherhood are these very bright energies which have never incarnated. I understood that. Why do they exist and what is their purpose?
They equalize and balance, but above all their function is to pass on knowledge. Just like you and me and all our friends, we are in close communication with the wise brotherhood to learn from them and to grow through them. It is, if you want to take your example of the school, actually the institution of the teachers that works through all levels. And no, these teachers are not incarnate.
Okay, this of course begs the question, do you know where this most highly vibrating form of wise brotherhood comes from?
Yes.
Tell us!
From the mother souls.
From mother souls? Can you say more about that?
I can try. If the mother soul is home to a large form of energy and consciousness, this can split off and reside separately in the cosmos.
But it is not a soul? I always thought mother souls can only produce souls.
No, not at all. They can also bring forth consciousness.
The mother soul is a product of a soul, so it has grown, right?
No, not just that, dear.
Okay, I have to address this topic separately in the the chapter of Mother Souls. But if a Mother Soul is an expanded soul energy, can it happen that it produces something like a wise brotherhood?
Yes. It is definitely a split-off form of a Mother Soul, which could not incarnate anyway because of its size.
Yes.
It is therefore another form of being. Which carries very high awareness within itself.
You have said that very beautifully. Another form of being which carries very high awareness within itself. One could almost say that it is an intermediate stage, an intermediate form between Mother Soul and soul. A Mother Soul is much too big to incarnate anyway. A soul, on the other hand, is small enough, but because of that not equipped with much energy nor with much awareness. A soul can gain awareness, but only through accession— extension. The energies that reside in the plane, in the state of wise brotherhood, are like larger energy fractions of energy parts that that have detached themselves from a mother soul. And these large energies carry an awareness within them. Can you say it like that?
I couldn't say it even better.
Well, but the fact that they come directly from a mother soul really astonished me.
Yes? Why?
Yeah, well, I would have thought they come directly from the Source.
No, no, no. The Source can only only bring forth various other helping energies, such as the White Spheres and the angelic forms. But the individuality and consciousness of the energies of the Wise Brotherhood mean that they are a product of the Mother Souls.
Okay, so the Wise Brother— Brothers have individuality?
That's it.
Do they have individual names?
No, not directly. But you can question them individually.
Is it possible that they nevertheless also have a kind of a swarm consciousness like the white spheres and the angel energies have? Only much more and differently?
Oh yes, you asked very wisely. That's exactly it, Sylvia Leifheitheit. So here we have the next higher form of these helping energies. Energies that have never incarnated. On the one hand, they are individually conscious, but they are nevertheless also connected with each other via a collective consciousness in their actions, their help, their teaching. Wow!
So the main purpose of the Wise Brotherhood is to provide answers when we ask them?
No.
What else do they do?
They act in the cosmos, they move energies, they purify, they help, but above all, of course, they answer many, many questions. But knowledge does not work only through communication, it often works simply through action.
I see. Do the wise gods also act when the souls are ejected from the bodies?
No.
In what other cases then?
For example, when souls ask for help and advice in a meditation, they are very easy to reach.
Okay, so via conscious contact. Mm-hmm. And does it happen that the wise brotherhood comes when a soul is in shock or in a certain state?
No, they are mainly there for balancing and for help that has been directly addressed to them.
I understand. And you, as well as Salomon and all the other entities I know, you are very much, all very much, in exchange with them, right?
Yes, of course. That is what I mean when I say that these areas 4, 5, and 6, if you want to use such numbers, work closely connected with each other. I have merely described the individual states of being.
Oh, okay, and you could, if you wanted, also ask a the Wise Brotherhood energy to do certain activities with you?
No, they really act more as a balancing effect directly with their consciousness, which is very high and very powerful after all.
That means you cannot ask them to travel with you to the lower levels?
I can, if you mean the deep levels. Which can only be traveled with consciousness anyway. In that case, they are actually very, very helpful because they can better penetrate the lower vibrations due to their clear mind, their clear consciousness.
That makes sense. Is there anything else you would like to add about these wise gods?
No.
Well, then let me summarize. The plane of the deceased is animated with souls. The white spheres have no souls, neither do the angels. The level of the blue gods has souls. The level of the colorful gods has souls, but the level of the wise gods doesn't. All in all, there are always areas with souls and areas without souls.
Perfect.
That is interesting. I would have thought that once something is a soul, it grows through all levels. But it is not at all possible that a soul becomes a white sphere. And a soul also cannot become an angel energy. All this does make sense, however. Fascinating. Thank you for the explanation.
With pleasure, dear, with pleasure.
Does this mean that the soul energy go through these stages of giving and thus grow energetically, increase, ascend.
Yes.
So depending on what frequency a soul has accumulated in its life, and let's assume it is a high vibrating, so that it then enters the higher vibrational levels, it then goes to one of these two different levels. It can become neither a white ball nor an angel. It can actually only become a blue god or a colorful god, right?
Right. And those above can become a master of light.
Ah, we should discuss this separately, as it is very complex.
But you are generally right. Not all energies in these levels are incarnated, especially the 6th level, wise gods and as we say, respectfully called Master of Connections. These energies are not incarnated. Nevertheless, it's possible for a soul force to transform in such a way that it can also perceive this realm. The souls expand from the 4th into the 5th level and then into a Master of Light into the 7th. The 6th level, the level of the lightful, wise forces, is filled exclusively by the cosmos.
It occurs to me that when I make contact with the deceased, it is actually not exhausting for me at all, but it is more limited, it has a more limited effect. I understand this better now that you have explained to me these different levels and their potentials, because experiencing real greatness and expansiveness, and of course also of the expansiveness of being, of awareness, of oneself, cannot exist in the level— levels of the deceased.
Yes.
Does this mean that when the body of your last incarnation dies and your soul has worked on its soul force throughout its life, practiced expansiveness, practiced strength, filled itself with love, and so on, it doesn't end up in the planes of the deceased but in one of these higher planes?
Yes, yes, and yes again. When you take your vessel into the vibrations of the higher levels throughout your lifetime in it, of course you end up in the higher levels. That is logical, as you would say, even if I don't like using this word, but it helpfully simplifies things for you, doesn't it?
Yes, that's right. Consequently, we should emphasize to people that it is up to them where they want to spend the next life. The next form of being after this life. Yes. Unfortunately, this is also one of the messages that the church and some other religions communicate. But in essence, they are right.
Actually, yes.
But then they abuse this true essence with practices that are contemptuous of human life.
Yes, that is the big problem. And the cause for the separation of practice and content. The primordial impulses are right, but how they are realized is wrong. All because the connection into the subtle world has been lost.
It's a pity, isn't it?
Yes, very much so.
Well then, my My dear friend, what else is there to say about these levels? Do you want to add something?
No.
Alright then. Tomorrow we can move on to the next higher level.
With pleasure.
I noticed that you want to move up.
Yes, of course.
Will we later move down again?
If you want to.
Okay, I'm looking forward to this and thank you, Thank you so much for these once again very exciting insights! Thank you— love!
Thank you, Silvia Leifheitheitheitheitheitheitheitheitheitheit... Love!





