EXPL0SIVE | Claressa Shields Cousin TELLS ALL! | “ Papoose is USING HER!”

So you want to be addressed as Sheletta? You want us to call you a nickname? Which one?

You can call me Sheletta. You can call me Remy, whichever one you want to call me.

OK. All right. So listen, I'm excited for this interview because, you know, Geisha305 put me on to you. I didn't even know you existed.

You know—

I love Geisha. Yes.

I love Geisha. I love her.

Yes, she loves you too.

I love y'all the same, though, actually. Thank you.

Thank you. Listen. So just in case the white hoes don't know, child, you are Clarissa Shields' cousin, correct?

But you'll hear me call her my sister a lot because it's just been like that my whole life.

So y'all moms are sisters? Mom, dad, brother? No.

Okay, so my biological father and her grandmother, okay, are brother and sister.

Oh yeah, okay, okay.

So she's my One-off first cousin, because she— her mother is my first cousin and she's her daughter.

Okay, so y'all both grew up in Flint, Michigan?

Correct. Well, I grew up in Otisville, but because my parents and my brothers and siblings owned a bunch of stuff in Flint, Michigan, I was always in Flint. I never went to a Flint public school. I never went to an A public I always went to college preparatory schools. My parents had that money.

Oh, okay. So, um, that, that's because, you know, you, when you hear about Flint, Michigan, and just anything with Detroit, they always talk about just how poor it is, and you don't never hear the success stories.

And so every, every country and every city has its poor parts.

Correct.

I've traveled. I've been traveling the world since I was 13 years old. I was a United States ambassador, handpicked by Bill Clinton himself. Okay, I went and met the Queen of England when I was 13, 14 years old. I stayed— I traveled abroad my entire life.

Okay, okay. So when a person be like, um, I said, very different from the story that Clarissa Shields has shared.

Yeah, but she don't tell the part about how I gave up my full ride scholarship to stay behind and protect her, though. That's the whole thing. That's the gag. What happened with that?

Why did you give that up to stay behind to help her?

Because the year that I graduated was the year that I met Clarissa, and that's when she told me she was being— So I called Pat Summit and told her, thank you for the opportunity, but I'm gonna have to decline my scholarship.

Wow. Okay, that's unfortunate. Was it by a family member?

No, the person that her is not a family member, but it's someone very close to the family.

Okay, that's unfortunate. Now that, I mean, that just— I, you know, I was— I don't wish that on no one. And so you, you Like, how did it even get to the point where— because it sounds like, you know, you going to, you know, college preparatory schools and, you know, traveling the world and stuff like that. Why, why wasn't Clarissa— I guess, why didn't she have those same opportunities as you?

Uh, you want the truth or you want to lie?

I want the truth. That's what we're here for.

Oh no, I say that a lot.

I'm—

you're gonna hear me say that a lot.

Okay, okay. Yeah, girl, give it to me. Give it to me raw. What's up?

So the truth is, because, um, she grew up in poverty, like she literally grew up on the north side of Flint in poverty. Her mother cared more about just keeping a roof and food on the table and her own habits than she did Claressa or Brianna, because she cared more about Artis and Peanut, the boys, than she did Claressa and Brianna.

Damn, that's of no fault of her own though, right? That's not Clarissa's fault. That's her— that's her mom.

No, but that was the reason why when— okay, so my father took me to go and introduce me to his side of the family because I didn't grow up around them. Okay, so when I was 17, that's when I met Clarissa, and she was already like 6 or 7 years old. And then she told me that she had been telling people what had happened to her and nobody did nothing. So I called up my cousin and, you know, stuff started shaking because it was gonna be something bad happen to a whole lot of folks and I wasn't gonna give a fuck.

Damn, damn.

So when at that point when she told me that, it was just like, yeah, I can't go to school and leave her here like this. No, I got to— I got to state. So I declined my scholarship, and then I moved in her mama house on Austin.

Okay, to be a— to be a caretaker for her, like a parent?

I took care of all her— I raised— I— when it come to Peanut, Brianna, and Claressa, I pretty much raised them. Artis was already a teenager. That's the older brother don't nobody ever hear about. Because you know she got an older brother, right?

I didn't know that. I didn't know.

Yeah, she got an older brother. His name is Artis. Okay, but y'all never hear about him, huh? Ain't that something strange?

No. And they're close. I don't really hear anything about the family. The only thing I've heard even remotely close to the family was her best Yeah, Papoose, her best friend.

No, they no best friend. Listen, listen, if she got a best friend, the only best friend she got, her name is Victoria. Everybody else that say that they her best friend, they is not her best friend. They are there for an opportunity. They are using her for an opportunity, and the moment that they can get their opportunity, they're no longer going to be around her. Because they have their opportunity.

Where did the beef start between you and Clarissa? What happened?

When that— when she begged me to keep a baby and then she abandoned that baby.

Wait, wait a minute. What? Whose baby?

So, okay, so I, I had moved away for a while and, um, I had gotten a real bad domestic violence relationship with my previous relationship. And when I moved back to Michigan, none of my siblings— Brianna, Peanut, Ressa— nobody had nowhere to stay at. So I moved them all into my house. Well, when I moved them all into my house, I just went back to what I knew, which was tricking and selling drugs, you feel me? So that's what I was doing, and I ended up getting pregnant. And I, uh, at the time, I really didn't have the funds because of everybody that I was taking care of. So I asked Clarissa, I'm like, give me— can I get $500 so I go get an abortion? She was like, I don't believe in abortions. You're going to burn in hell. God don't like for you to kill babies. Just keep it and I'm going to adopt the baby. I was like, you sure? Are you positive? She was like, yeah. I was like, okay, cool. It's not my responsibility no more. Boom. So you gave her your baby Yeah, and then me and her got into it about a Nintendo Wii that I pawned so I could pay a bill at my house. And then she called me and told me I would never see that baby again. And I, I just asked a simple question because I was the babysitter for her while she went and trained. So my question was, who's gonna watch this baby for you while you go train? Her exact words was, my sister Michelle and Terry Key. Bitches, you dumb. Terry Key is a known fucking rapist in our fucking family, and you told me that this nigga done tried to fuck you before, and you gonna tell me you finna leave a baby that can't talk with this nigga? You out your— this nigga done touched his own fucking kids before.

This is—

oh yeah, I called the police. I sure the fuck did. I called the police to get the baby because the fuck, protect you? You better believe I'mma protect something that came out of me.

So where's the baby now?

Um, I was asked not to disclose that because my— the people that are related to me on where she is does not want the public to know. Yeah, they don't want the—

they don't want the baby safe.

The baby is with me still. Oh, but she's just being taken care of by another person. I pay child support for this kid.

Is your— the baby don't call you mama?

Yeah, she knows I'm her mama. She calls me mama. Yes.

But you didn't want her at that time?

No, but now I love her dearly. Like, I— we do a lot of stuff together. Like, I'm always with her. But at that time, no, I did not because of the way that she came about. No.

And she came about through you tricking? Yes. So you don't— do you know her father?

Oh yes, I know who the father is.

Is he a part of her life?

No.

Okay, okay. Do you have any more kids?

Yeah, I got 5 other children.

Okay, so but this particular— did you, did you take care of them?

My youngest daughter lived with her father. And all the rest of my other kids is with me except Cookie Lou. I call her Cookie Lou, but everybody else call her Nick. Nick.

Okay. All right. But they're all taking care of you. You take care of all of them. It's interesting how you, you gave up your scholarship to take care of Clarissa, but then when you got pregnant with your, your daughter, you were like, Clarissa, take the baby.

What do you mean? I didn't ask her to take it. She offered because she— I wanted an abortion. She was like, I'll raise the baby, I'll adopt the baby. This came out her mouth. This ain't nothing I proposed to her. This is what she proposed to me.

So you had the baby and just said, here?

I had the baby and the baby went home with us because at the time, Clarissa was living at my house at, uh, 3911 Shawnee Avenue.

And this is the 5th baby that you had, or the—

The 3rd.

The 3rd. OK, so you went on to have 2 more kids after this baby. So— and Clarissa— so Clarissa is no longer a mother to this baby. The baby's back with you, and you are assuming full responsibility for the child.

Yeah, and I don't know why everybody is going with this narrative saying that I said that I was a surrogate mother for her. I never once said that I was a surrogate. I never once said that Clarissa couldn't have kids. I never once said none of this stuff. All I said is, if you want to talk about them 8 years, talk about that baby.

Okay, so the breakdown was when she was going to the gym to train to be a boxer and leaving the baby with just anybody. So you stepped in as though she wasn't leaving the baby with anybody.

She was leaving the baby with me. And then me and her got into it about a Nintendo Wii, and she called me on the phone and she said, you bought my Nintendo Wii and you didn't tell me? Your daughter told me that she don't got it out at the country. And I said, well, she didn't lie to you, I lied to you. And she was like, don't worry about it, you ain't gonna never see this baby again. And the only question I had is, well, Russell, who's gonna watch this baby while you train? And when she dropped them two names, your coked-out ass sister and this last cousin of ours, yeah, you smoking dope or smoking, but either which way it go, I don't like it and it ain't right. So I called the police.

And what did the police do?

Made her give back the child because the paperwork wasn't all the way official yet. And then she went and had a meeting with one of the judges downtown And the judge told her, like, you're so young, you shouldn't adopt a baby right now. You have your whole life and career ahead of you. So the girl Arjanay that she says is her— one of her friends— I ended up moving in with her mother thinking that Clarissa would come back and get this baby. I stayed with that lady for 2 years thinking Clarissa would come back and get— you know, she didn't. So I had to figure it out. Okay, and then on top of that, everybody knew that I was dealing with postpartum depression. Like, I, I had just came out of a domestic violence relationship. Then when I moved back, I had to hurry up and get a house. My Peanut, Brianna, and Clarissa, with Clarissa's boyfriend at the time, which was, uh, which was, which, which is another boxer. He's a professional boxer now and he's married with children, so I'm gonna leave him out of it.

Okay, okay.

And they all was staying at my house, and you paying all the bills. And I asked— I was paying all the bills. I asked Russell to pay one bill, she paid it, and then I fell behind on another bill. So I grabbed all my jewelry and the Nintendo Wii, and I went and pawned it so I could pay the consumer bill or the water bill. It was one of them. Either Russell paid the consumer bill and I needed to pay the water bill. It was something like that, but it was so long ago I can't remember which bill was which.

Okay.

Yeah.

So that was, that was the breakdown of the relationship. Now you guys have been beefing ever since then.

I don't beef. I got mad cow disease. Motherfuckers be beefing with me. I don't beef at all. What I tried to do was have a conversation and really tell her like, look, I love you. Like, I've really jeopardized and sacrificed a whole lot for you to get where you are and to do what you're doing. Like, I would— I don't have no malicious intent. Like, but what I did not know at the time, because I was not raised like them, is that it really hit deep for her because she was used to going to sleep as a kid with stuff and then waking up and it wasn't there no more. Somebody stole it, they pawned it, they they sold it for their habits. I did not know that, you know what I'm saying? It took for me to get in— I was like 33 years old by the time I realized like the actual impact that that one little thing had on her. But it's little to me, but it's major to her.

Post-traumatic stress disorder.

You know, something like that, I guess.

I got sisters that still put their name on foods, but they got money. It's like, what are you doing? You can go—

I don't know. I, I ain't never— the only people— yeah.

So, all right, so the— you guys are at odds. The baby's back with you. When does Clarissa— at what point does Clarissa's career take off?

Her career took off, did it? I, I— where's the sponsorships? Where are the endorsements? Her career took off? Her career only took off because of a married man. And a fake-ass deal with Wynn Records. Who the fuck— who's ever heard of a record label signing a boxer? And I'mma, I'mma set that right there for everybody to marinate on.

I, I, I, I— it's very rare.

Do your research on Wynn Records. Wynn Records was founded is founded in 2022. In 2024, they said that Papoose was the executive producer of whatever the, the fake-ass department. Now all of a sudden everything is about Wynn Records. When the fuck happened this? All I'm hearing is Wynn Records, Don King, Don King, Wynn Records. And if you know anything about Don King and Mike Tyson, that should wrap that all up with a nice little bow for you. Come on, let's have a drink. Cheers, let's have a drink together.

I don't feel— So you're saying that Clarissa is not the quote?

Debt is not the real problem. So how do you move forward? My team and I offer a fresh start strategy session. It's free. It's private. It's one-on-one with an attorney.

Do you want another? I do. Kim is the best love I ever had. No man is going to marry you because they're never going to think that they're better than Cam.

They'll fuck you, but they won't marry you just because you made that statement.

And what you don't have is a good nigga because the shit that comes out of your mouth is wild. I can't even believe you're a wife.

So how dare you?

A normal, healthy-minded, with great self-esteem 40-year-old woman wouldn't have allowed Cam to play with her the way that him and his boys play with you, like you were a dumb bird who didn't understand money or anything like that. He complimented you in the process to gaslight you, but he let his friends who knew you play with you. Where you going? Where's she going? Why she can't see I'm on her side, Jasmine?

Why she can't see I'm on her side?

Where'd you go? Let me tell you something. Let me tell you the difference between me and when people are going to step into my platforms, all right? OK, all right, cool. I'm listening.

I'm listening.

So you're saying that Clarissa is not the GOAT?

No, I'm not saying that she's not the GOAT. I'm, I'm saying she is the greatest woman of all times of her era.

But you don't feel like she's successful?

I feel like she's as successful as it's going to get for her with no branding and with being messy as hell.

Elaborate.

When you think of Claressa Shields, what is the brand behind her besides her talking shit, knocking people? Well, she don't even knock people out, she just beat them at points. She's a technical fighter, she's not a knockout fighter. She's a technical fighter, she fights for points. Pay attention to it. How many KOs? How many actual technical knockouts do she have where she done fired on a bitch and knocked that hoe out? I'll wait.

I think she's been floored before.

She ain't never got technically knocked out. She's been knocked down but not knocked out.

Yeah, yeah.

So, you know, I'mma give my sister her flowers because I'm so proud of everything she's done professionally. And when I say I'm so proud, like, words can never express how proud I am of the things she made it through. All of the adversity and all of the, the shit that was against her, she made it. Okay, but what about those people that sacrificed for you? You just left them hanging for a married man, for real.

Um, at what point did— because Clarissa was engaged. Did you know the fiancé?

Which fiancé?

The one she bought the car for.

Tony? Yeah, the one that was in a relationship with my cousin Sharanda before they got together, and she was in a relationship with a whole nother person.

I didn't know it was that Tony. Well, tell us about Tony. I didn't know.

Oh yeah, Tony was in a relationship with my cousin Sharanda, and she took Tony from Sharanda. And yep, and she was like— she was still in a relationship with her last before she— how your personal trainer end up being your Oh, you, you, you, you— cheers!

You, you, you ain't wrapped too tight.

I tell people that all the time. If you come poking at the devil with me long enough, eventually you'll wake up Lucifer. Don't lie on me, because I was— I don't give a fuck about taking this ship straight to hell with the truth.

So with— okay, so Tony wasn't an official fiancé, it was just a brand name? He was just—

no, Tony was her fiancé. Okay. Oh Lord, he proposed to her twice in Miami on the yacht because she didn't— she— the recording wasn't recorded the first time, so they had to redo it for a second time because she wanted it to look good for the cameras. It's all about an image. She don't really give a fuck about people. She give a fuck about her image. And that's where me and her have to disconnect at, because bitch, I didn't sacrifice, your siblings didn't sacrifice, and everybody else around you did not sacrifice for you to be flaunting around a married man and worried about your image. You're more relatable when you tell the truth about what the fuck is going on in your life, because the next person that grew up like you know that they got a fucking chance. You around here trying to make it seem like you was never a dusty, dirty-ass bitch.

You were. Now I'mma get blamed for this. I'mma get—

and the only reason why you know how to fight is because I taught you how to fight. You used to get ran home from Gundry Elementary.

You look like you got some hands.

I wouldn't fuck with you. I mean, I got these bitches. I knock grown ass bitches out. I got these bitches, you hear me?

I, I, I would love to see you on Baddies, you and Toseki, one-on-one.

I can't wait. I'm calling. Listen, now that you done said it, Taseki, I'm calling you out, boo. You've been talking about you want to fight my little sister. I smoke, you smoke. I drink, you drink. You claim you got hands and you a heavy hitter. I know I got hands and I'm a heavy hitter. What's up, boo? Because I'm gonna need you to spin the block, because last time I checked, your sister said that you did a lot— you did porn with Krishan. So if that's a lie, you take that up with Chastity, bitch. Now moving along.

Um, so you want to see Taseki for— because my thing is I'm trying to figure out why is Clarissa even putting it out that she wants to fight people on the street and she wants to fight the baddies? I'm like, your brand is so much bigger than that. And I wonder why Laila Ali wouldn't give her a fight list, because why would she come down to that level to fight someone like you when she's up here like homegirl is on her Martha Stewart thing and you down here trying to fight baddies and you got cousins, you got cousins for that.

Handle your— she got a little sister named Brianna Shields that I taught how to fight and that little got hands. Lulu Cheeks on Facebook, when I tell you my little sister got hands, she got them bitches. So why are you the celebrity on the internet being messy when you got fuckers like me and Brianna that can do it for you? It amazes me. It just amazes me how dumb people are, right? It's amazing, right? It's so amazing.

So she's just abandoning y'all and now it's everything is Papoose? Have you spoken to her since she's been in a relationship with Papoose?

Yes, I've spoken to her several times. Why she keep telling people she don't talk to me? I should leak that bitch phone number.

No, don't do that.

Yeah, I'm not, because I don't want— I don't want the— I don't want, you know, let her tell it. I don't got shit for her to sue me for. I never knew a cease and desist was a lawsuit. I thought that meant to shut the fuck up. But you know, I might be the darkest crayon in the crayon box. I'm not so bright. But every time I hear Clarissa talk, it just be like, girl, why is you making our family sound and look dumb as fuck? This girl really did an interview with Sherry and said her man is so mature. That's a half a century old. He better be mature. I posted, like, what, 47, 48? That's what, a half a century, right? If you're a grown-ass man and you damn near a half a century and you not mature, hang it up, flat screen. What the fuck are we doing?

Right, he's old. How old is Clarissa again?

30. Oh, and mind you, Papoose's oldest daughter is 28.

That is concerning. That's, that's—

I'm gonna drop the mic right there and let y'all— I'm gonna let y'all, I'm gonna let y'all detangle that because I have no quarrel in that fight.

Do you feel like Papoose is using her?

I know he's using her.

How do you know that?

What the fuck? What the fuck does a 50-year-old man want with a 30-year-old? And he already got kids. He's still fucking married. One thing I know from fucking married men, they always gonna tell you they gonna get a divorce, but do they ever get one?

No.

That's why I don't flaunt they ass out in public, and they're my personal ATM machines.

But hey, you still—

that's just me.

You still tricking?

Because if your husband come around me talking about he's single, he's good as— and his money is good as took.

Oh, she's still tricking. Okay, um, so it's like, do you love Clarissa?

Do you love her? I love her dearly. I do. I just don't got time for the shit. When you lie on me, I don't have a problem with telling the truth about the entirety of everything that's going on, even if that mean I got to burn myself in order to burn you too. You see how that work? I'm a dangerous motherfucker to fuck with because this is one thing people better know about me. I never cared about burning a motherfucking bridge because I'll pour gasoline on that and pour gasoline on me and light me on fire with a Zippo and hug you. Because one thing's for sure, it's always water up underneath a bridge, and I can swim, bitch. Can you?

That's an excellent analogy. Um, so I, I guess, have you spoken to Papoose?

I told Clarissa off rip, I don't want to speak to no that you talking to until y'all married. You and that and every relationship until a marriage I see, quote unquote.

So who do you think is supporting Papoose right now? Because Remy said she was supporting him and she asked him to move out and he refused to move. Then he started dating this credit repair chick that actually went on vacation with them in Hawaii when they were in Hawaii around the time when, you know, the boxing commission in Detroit had removed her belt from her and her win because they said that she had tested positive for THC, but she later came back and tested negative for THC. And then all of a sudden, you know, when I read the text messages that Remy Ma had put out of Clarissa begging Papoose to love her and send her flowers and update, you know, her where he was, and I'm like, but he's married. Remy put that out and embarrassed her, and now all of a sudden, he's outside with, with, with Clarissa after, you know, he wouldn't even, you know, share a location or say I love you or anything like that. And, and it wasn't until after Remy had came to the internet on him.

He's in love with the thought of taking her money. He's not in love with her, okay? Because I see what it looked like when a person is in love. I know what it is when a person's in love because I've seen be in love with me. You get what I'm saying? So they bend over backwards. That nigga is playing chess and she's playing checkers, okay? And in a minute she's gonna get checkmate and he's gonna find out just how unhinged she really the fuck is. Y'all think that I'm unhinged? You think I'm off my fucking rocker? Y'all know she used to get a disability check.

How did the disability association get up in here in this conversation? What disability check did Clarissa used to draw? She's not supposed to be fighting if she has a disability, right?

No, when she won her first Olympics, her mama, she found out— So when she won the Olympics the first time, Social Security came to her and told her she owed them like $25,000. And when she asked them what for, it was because her mother had been getting a disability check for her since she was like 9 years old.

What was the diagnosis?

The same as everybody else in our family, mentally deranged.

Okay, interesting. Okay, so when— I don't even know where to go with this. This is so much. So does the entire family feel this way? Are you speaking for the entire family?

Man, we have family meetings and they talk about the shit that go on. But I'm the only one that will voice it out loud because I've always been one to drum. I dance to my own song. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I don't give a fuck about the backlash. I never gave a fuck about no backlash.

I can tell you ever.

So yeah, it's lots of conversation in the family about a lot of things. But does Clarissa know? No, because she's so far up. Never mind. Right on, Papoose. You got it. You got it, my—

So how do you feel about her saying that they're gonna have a baby next year and get married next year and really has asked to sign the papers and he, he hasn't signed them?

So you do know that a divorce is public information, right?

Yeah.

And you do know that you can go into the courthouse and figure out if a person have withdrew a motion, right?

Yeah, okay.

Last time I checked, Remy Ma withdrew the motion for divorce and Papoose never even acknowledged them. So I'mma leave that right there. So you tell me who collecting money on who.

You feel like—

and then as far as this, where did Papoose get money from? You got to be either retarded or stupid to let a buy you a chain with your own money. Welcome to Wynn Records, bitch. You got this money from Wynn Records because of me. What are we saying here?

Hey, hey guys, hey, hey, please.

Uh, and then it's okay for you to pay everybody on the outside to do work for you, but the family know how to do the same exact work and you want to You want to baby feed the family? A motherfucker make you a website, you pay them $200. What? A motherfucker be your personal assistant, you tell them you bought them food. What?

So is Papoose her manager now?

Y'all be hearing the shit just like I hear the shit. Don't he say he's the manager? Don't she agree with he's the manager and saying that she get more money with him and some more shit and more shit.

Do you feel like him and Remy now are both pimping, uh, uh, what, what that bitch said on, uh, Black Panther?

For Wakanda? Without a doubt.

Because why would Remy—

make it make sense to me. If Papoose was broke, right? If Pap— make it make sense. Now let's, let's be logical about this, right? Okay, Remy said Papoose is broke, right? So she went and filed for the divorce. She like, I'ma pay for it. Now this nigga getting money and we still married. What's yours is mine. Hold on, go ahead and collect that bag real quick before we get this divorce because I'm gonna need in on that. What you saying? She learned from the best. Fat Joe teach you how to fuck a bitch real easy.

They do have an interesting partnership. Remy and Papoose, they, they've been through a lot together, and she said she paid all of his bills while she was in jail.

I believe her because I have yet to hear about this having his own crib. He's always traveling, he's always in Brooklyn, he's always in a whole nother country somewhere and some more shit. You get what I'm saying? But at the same time, it's just like, where you getting this money from though? And then for the life of me, I— this $8 million deal that, that's going— that then went down, it's just like, yeah, now you— y'all got it. Y'all, y'all got it.

So where is Clarissa's parents now?

I mean, like, where, where's her mom, her Grandma is living on the north side of Flint, Michigan, with waterboarded floors, no doors, and I had to pay for concrete steps for her to even get into her house. Her daddy is in a wheelchair fighting for his health shit and always at the barbershop on the north side of Flint, Michigan, asking people for money and some more shit. And both of them are addicts in their own way.

So she don't help them at all?

I ain't gonna say she don't help them, but it's not giving what it's supposed to give for some parents. And then for her to be going on the internet and making these movies talking about her daddy taught her how to fight— girl, Bo was locked up your whole life. You your entire childhood. So what did he do, send you Pictionary and diagrams on how to box? No, bitch, I taught you how to fight because Jasmine then was running your ass home from Country Elementary. So I took her outside and I was like, listen, all this anger and animosity that you got where you just keep doing all this, so like you a samurai finna boot up and charge up, I'm like, kill all that noise. I'm like, this is what we finna do. We finna teach you how to defend yourself. And that's— and I started teaching her 1-2s and 2-3 combos. And then I started taking her to PAL gym. And then after that, her granny, my Aunt Joanne, Lord rest her soul, started taking her to Burstyn. That's where she met Jason.

And who's Jason again?

Jason Clutchfield, her first coach.

Oh, okay. Now, who was this little girl that came out on the internet saying that she, you know, I guess fought Clarissa back in the day? They both was boxing together. She made some YouTube videos and then said Clarissa was— or she doesn't feel like Melissa was, uh, Clarissa was, but Clarissa got pregnant. By her coach. That—

okay, anything dealing with Clarissa being pregnant by a coach is a fucking lie. Now, it has been said in the family that she's been pregnant twice and had two abortions. I can't confirm and/or deny because I don't know, but the family has said this.

So her coaches never took advantage of her to your— to your knowledge?

No, them niggas didn't want to die. They knew I was coming behind that. Them Listen, one thing's for sure and two things for certain. Everybody always know me as the crazy cousin, okay? Because I take it there with you and I don't give a fuck about— I don't care, okay?

Okay.

So what do you want? We can take it beyond hell.

So what do you want the world to know about Clarissa? Like, what would you want? I mean, you said a lot there. Obviously this is This is your form of tough love. I was raised by women like you, so I understand where you're coming from.

I want the world to know that I never asked Clarissa for a fucking thing. And even when she became a celebrity, I did ask her for $5,000, but ask her why I asked her for $5,000 and what she wanted me to do for her. I wasn't going to fuck that fucking bill. She was supposed to— she was going to come in or it wasn't going to get done, period, point blank. I want the world to know I'm not a nothing ass bitch. I grew up with a silver spoon in my mouth. I just chose and choose to eat with a wooden one. I had a maid and a butler growing up. I never had to struggle. Four-wheelers, dirt bikes, mopeds, traveling abroad, taking family vacations. I've been doing that shit since I fell out the hoo-ha. So for a person to be like, oh, you're jealous— jealous of what? Because everything she's had, I've had since I was a kid. Everything she has right now, everything she's doing right now, I've been doing since I was 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 years old and beyond. So stop telling me I'm jealous. I'm more of a concern because what people don't know is the real Clarissa. She's very unhinged, and the moment that Papoose shows her who he really is— what that bitch said on The Color Purple, I'ma just sit back and see what kind of colors get put on the wall.

Now, you've seen her become unhinged before?

What?

Give me an example of unhinged, Clarissa.

It was this girl that was messing with her, and then these girls thought that they was gonna jump her. right? And, uh, I was away at college at the time because I, I ended up going to school, but it wasn't in Michigan, right? Brianna calls me and tells me that every— what's going on, right? I immediately jump in my Yukon Denali. I'm on the highway now. Mind you, I live 5 hours away from Flint, Michigan. I get to that bitch in 3 and a half hours. I pull up on Saginaw and Carpenter Road where everybody at. When I get there, I don't know if the brick wall was playing ping pong with that girl head and that fist, or if the fist was playing ping pong with that girl head and the brick wall. I don't know, but somewhere in there it was a brick wall and some ping ponging and a fist going on. That's all I got.

So, so you gonna— so basically, uh, you feel that she's gonna whoop Papoose's ass?

I feel like the reason why he be sparring with her is because he's trying to understand and learn like how she, she gonna come and the power behind it. Because one thing's for sure and two things for certain, Remy ain't gonna just keep getting on the internet saying stuff and then especially stuff with dealing with domestic violence, you see what I'm saying? Women take domestic violence real serious. The only people that don't take it serious is the new bitch that ain't been through the domestic violence shit.

And Remy did say that Papoose was, according to her, abusive.

So all I'm saying is I'm waiting on the day that he thinks that he can get real abusive with her so I can see exactly how she gonna fuck his ass up, because it's gonna come. When she really— when it— when her wheels really get to clicking on what's really going on around her, he gonna see the real Marissa.

Okay, okay. Did she ever finish high school?

Yeah, she went to school at Alabama. She went to college at Alabama. I know, because I'm the bitch that took all her shit to Alabama College.

Because she don't be acting too bright sometimes.

I just be like, she dropped out so she could go to the Olympics and second time and train a lot. She's not— listen, the smart siblings is Brianna and Peanut. Them are the two smart siblings, okay? Them are the two geniuses, okay? Clarissa know how to fight, and Artis knows how to fight, okay?

Okay. Well, listen, I hope that you guys can reconcile. Do you think y'all will be able to reconcile one day?

We can reconcile when she starts telling the truth. Because let me ask you this, Tasha K, did you know anything about me before Clarissa started going live about me?

No.

The world never knew who the fuck I was, but yet she tells them that I've been trolling her for 8 years. I got 4 Facebook pages: Win Win Win, Remy Savage, Charlita Savage, and Win Savage, right? Okay, go look at any of them pages. I don't delete a motherfucking thing. Debt is not the real problem.

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Okay, I don't delete a fucking thing. I don't delete shit. Okay, you don't even hear me even speak of Clarissa on them motherfuckers. The problem is everybody that's around her has done something to me and I have done something back to them. And then they're in her ear making it seem like the situation with this Nintendo Wii was more of a bigger situation than what it was. Because people know to keep me— if they want full access to Clarissa, they have to keep me away from her because they know I ain't playing that shit. I'm just not playing that shit. I don't need shit from you, but I ain't gonna let y'all use it. You can get the fuck on or I could beat the fuck out of you. Y'all know who Charlie Murphy is. No, Eddie Murphy's brother, Charlie Murphy. Just call me Charlie Murphy because behind Eddie Murphy, what will he do to him?

You right.

Okay, just call me Charlie Murphy.

Okay, so, so basically you're doing this interview to defend yourself about—

correct, because she, she go on live and then she bash us and not only me, but a lot of people in the family. But then when she make up with— she don't go back and tell everybody, oh no, we cool, whoopty whoopty whoop. And then she be having her fan base coming at me and coming at our family like they won't get slapped on and spit on for real. Because like, I will beat your ass in real life. Like, I'm not gonna play with y'all. All this telling me what you gonna do to me. I will put a Trojan horse inside of your cell phone and find out your actual latitude and longitude and pull down on your ass.

Okay, I've never heard of that before. We just drop an AirTag.

See what I'm saying?

Mhm.

See what I'm saying?

Yes.

Yeah, so yeah, I, I, I'm about 4 cans short of a 6-pack when it— when need be.

Okay, well, do you want people to find you, follow you? You gonna come back?

Yes.

Okay, um, shout out to you. Very, very, very interesting, uh, interview. I, you know, like I said, we interview everybody, and, um, I was excited to talk to you because I knew you was gonna give me, you know, your reality with her.

Yeah, but here's the gag. Clarissa don't never tell nobody that she was bullied in elementary, but I want the world to ask her who was bullying her. I want to— I want the world to ask her, who was bullying you at Country Elementary School?

Can you tell us?

I know exactly who was bullying her.

Who?

My biological little sisters.

And why was she bullying Clarissa?

For one, they didn't even know that they was cousins, for one. And two, um, me and my siblings have always lived a better life than most, you know what I'm saying? So, um, when you a kid and you got the better things in life and you got somebody that don't, you're gonna make fun of them, you're gonna bully and pick on them. And that's what they were doing. That's the reason why She tried to set Gundry Elementary School on fire in the bathroom because she was being bullied at school. That's the reason why I had to teach her how to fight so that she would stop trying to do stupid shit.

She said this—

I want to know, where would— where would— where would— if I would have took my scholarship and left, would there really be a Clarissa Shields?

I don't know. I'm not God.

It wouldn't have been because the way nobody really fucked with her or liked her at the time is the reason why I took a real— I gravitated to her because I know what it's like to be the black sheep. So when she told me what she told me and I seen how she was being treated already, it was like, yeah, I gotta step in and I gotta, you know what I'm saying, I gotta help fix this situation.

Well, how do you feel about how the world sees her? How do you see— how do you see the world seeing her? Now, especially being with Papoose and everything? It's Clarissa and Papoose.

You said how do I think the world sees her? Yeah, like right now, as a motherfucking fool personally. But professionally, a lot of people still likes her, but I think she lost a lot of her fan base popping out with a married man. But that's just me personally, you know what I'm saying? I don't know if she lost a lot of her fan base. I know that it's a lot of Christian-based people that probably won't allow their children now to watch her or admire her, you know what I'm saying? Because you done popped out with this married man and you're, you're, you're a little girl's— every little girl dreams of living, growing up and being a Claressa Shields, especially if you box, especially if you've been in poverty, especially if you've been misfortune. You know what I'm saying? So to, to live this life where you made it out of being and you beat the adversity of having addicts as parents and literally like trying to figure it out through other family members and like living here, there, and everywhere, why would you want to put that image out there of yourself when you don't have a brand? So now you've just branded yourself as a home wrecker.

It, it was pretty messy when, um, when Remy, um, came out to expose her like that. And I thought it was— because listen, I, I don't follow boxing, so I've never heard of her. I didn't hear about her until I heard the bad shit.

A lot of people are in my inbox saying the same thing. I never knew who Claressa Shields was until she started dating Papoose. It's amazing to me that they threw a yacht party down in Miami, put her all over the flyers. Every hood celebrity from Flint, Michigan got on this yacht before Clarissa because the people down in Miami did not even know who she was. It took for me to call down to Miami and cuss a fucking promoter out and tell them, are you serious? You got my sister waiting in a fucking line and y'all got her on the fire. So then they put everybody off the yacht and put her on.

That is insane to me.

And that, that was, that was the year that, uh, what, uh, Tony proposed to her. He proposed to her on that yacht.

Okay, okay. And so do you— I mean, was— what happened with the breakup between her and Tony? Is she met Papoose in one of the celebrity boyfriend still with Tony.

She was still in a relationship with Tony, flaunting Papoose. What do you mean, what happened? And then she used Papoose to go get a car back from Tony. Like, what?

So she took his car?

She told Papoose to go repo a car from Tony.

So she really did that? She really gave Papoose Tony's car?

Yes. And, and everybody in Genesee County says that Papoose is no longer with they'll come back to Beecher, and if they see him, it's up and it's stuck. Hey, I ain't say it, they said it. So I do want to fix Michigan. Let's fix Michigan. We need to fix Michigan.

Now you got the Trump hat with damn star.

Listen, it's not no Trump hat. This is not a Trump hat. This is the Anthony Hamilton hat. This is not a Trump hat.

Okay, okay. Um, so, so Tony basically got, got ambushed with this. So she traded him in for the celebrity husband? Pretty much.

Okay, pretty much. The celebrity boyfriend that I guess she take care of, but he take care of her with her money because he getting a percentage of her money. So therefore, it looked like he doing for her, but in actuality, she doing for herself because without her money, he would have no money. I'm just saying, I ain't the brightest crayon in the box. I might be the darkest one, but I'm just saying I'm smarter than a fifth grader.

She said Papoose got a job. He got a job. He got a SiriusXM show one day.

Hey, Tasha, when have you ever got in a car and somebody said, hey, put that new Papoose on?

Never.

Oh, okay.

Never.

Yeah. So what we talking about?

Yeah, I just— I feel like Papoose is a catfish. Every time he takes off that hat, I'm like, oh my God, put it back on. It's just— he's not brandable.

That nigga hairline back here.

Yeah, no, I know, I know.

And he got like speckles of hair on the side.

I know, I know. He goes—

it's a lace front. And then they talk about, I ain't never seen Papoose take his hat off because Remy was not allowing that shit. Nigga, you look back home. And then, okay, so that's another thing I want to address. She keep going on live talking about I convinced Brianna to make a GoFundMe. Girl, I got woke up out my sleep at 8 o'clock in the morning because Brianna called me telling me she wanted to make a GoFundMe. So what I said to her is this right here. You know our sister is a celebrity, so if you make a GoFundMe, you're gonna have to word it properly so that the world don't think that you're begging for money because, you know, she's a millionaire. You know what I'm saying? So she was like, she's like, it's not about that. She like, my sister did a whole lot for me. I'm like, I know, I've seen what she did. I've seen what she did. You feel me? I got you down to Atlanta. She got the crib, she furnished it. She gave you bread, all that. But she only gave you bread after the GoFundMe. When you first got down there, she didn't give you no money. She didn't give you no money. You don't know how I know? You missed 4 interviews for jobs because you didn't have no money to get to them. So once again, I'mma keep saying Did she really move her siblings down to Atlanta because she really gave a fuck, cared, or was it to protect her image because she was about to sign that $8 million contract and God told her to be quiet? But bitch, you started talking again. So what the fuck? God didn't tell you start talking again, bitch. He said if you said God told you to be quiet, bitch, that means shut the fuck up. But I guess that's hard for a gladiator to do, huh?

Yeah, do you, do you, um, have you ever been compared to like the women in Baltimore a little bit? You know, I feel like Detroit and Baltimore, I, I, that y'all have similar personalities and characteristics. Like, y'all don't play at all. Like, y'all don't fuck around.

Well, we just talk real aggressive and very— well, I don't know, I'm very aggressive talking and I'm very straight to the point. Okay, like all that sugarcoating shit. I never tasted sugar-coated shit. Sugar-coated shit don't even sound like it tastes good, so just keep sugar-coated shit away from me.

Okay. All right, well, listen, um, anything else you want to share before we wrap this up? I know you got to, you know, you got to get on with your life and stuff. And anything else you want?

So I never, I never asked Brianna to make no GoFundMe. Me, and I ain't never asked Clarissa for a motherfucking dollar or a dime, okay? So when the world— when she be telling people that she gave her family all this money, first and foremost, she be talking about, I gave Brianna a house. Girl, you gave Brianna a house when she was a teenager, still young, dumb, and full of fuckin' cum. I had to replace the pipes in the walls in that shit. When you gave her a car, I had to replace the engine and fix the transmission. When you gave Everything she's done for people has been a half-assed job of doing it. The only thing Claressa has ever done and fully finished is boxing. If y'all notice, she didn't— I'm finna be a rapper, right? The EP still ain't dropped.

I hope she's not taking—

She said she's been a model. Where is the portfolio? She say she finna come out with this TV show. Where is the premiere of the dropping date of this? You, you start a lot of shit, but you don't finish it. You never execute. The only thing you've executed is a married man in boxing.

Do you feel like this— people would say that your, your words towards her are too harsh?

I wouldn't give a fuck if they did or if they didn't. This is how I don't sugarcoat it for nobody. If it was somebody else, I'd still say it the same way. You don't like it, that's the problem. That's the problem with the world. People don't just say directly what it is. They care about people's feelings. Fuck your feelings. Your feelings don't— listen, my rights do not end where someone's feelings begin, okay?

Okay.

The Constitution and the world is very dangerous, and you have to deal with it. If you can't, I'm gonna need you to go crawl up underneath a rock and cry about it, okay? Because I'm, I'm, I'm not— I'm not gonna give a fuck about telling the truth to gratify your feelings. If you can't handle it, go find something else to do. Don't talk to me.

Well, what if they view this as you tearing her down?

That's— listen, what about the shit she just said about me? Remember, she said I was broke. She said I was broke, I'll be begging, uh, she can't stand me and all this old extra other shit, but yet you still be talking to me. So once again, don't say shit about me if you don't want me to say the motherfucking truth. Don't lie on me. And being the villain in your story is what you choose to do, bitch. I'm Thanos and I'm collecting Infinity Rings.

On that note, where can they find you and follow you, Shalita?

You can find me on Facebook. My name is Shalita Savage on Facebook. You can find me on YouTube. It's Shalita Remy Savage on YouTube. Twitter, my name is Shalita Remy Savage on Twitter. Um, TikTok, I'm Mother Truckin Savage. Everything about me is a savage. That's really my name. I'm not just claiming it to be claiming it. Um, I want to give a shout out to my manager. Make sure y'all say that yay before you say that nay. Yay, nay. Um, Grim Entertainment, Grim World, Grim Girls— that's Peanut's, um, thing that he does with his websites and the modeling agency and stuff that he has going on. If there's any record labels out there looking for some hot new artists, um, Brianna Shields, you got her name is Lula Cheeks on Facebook. Um, we ain't gonna— Rude Hot 100, my little brother, you feel me? Uh, and 787 Sosa, you know what I'm saying? Y'all can go find them on YouTube. Um, Renee Black on Instagram and on Facebook. If y'all want to be on the newest, hottest reality shows that's coming out. Oh yeah, and I want to let y'all know I'm at the Hoos for trying to get me a reality show on Remy Ma's network. Yes, Remy trying to get with Remy. I see.

All right, all right. So listen, it sounds like you had just got a Source Award and you want to thank everybody, like, yay!

For real? No, because the problem that I— the main problem that I be having with Clarissa is she'll shout out Papoose, but she won't shout out nobody in the family to try to put them in no position. Like, people think that I hate her or I got this thing against her, and it's not nothing like that. It's this right here. If anything is to happen to Clarissa right now, who in our family can even offer her a quarter million dollars or $100,000 or even a half a million dollars to help her get back on her feet? Nobody. Because she ain't put nobody in positions to do it. I got a couple hundred thousand, but I ain't got enough to give to you. See what I'm saying? Yeah, I sacrificed enough already. I'm not sacrificing no more. It's somebody else's turn, but you're not putting people in no position to do so. So all these people that you helping— like, you got a friend that tried to sue you over a scratch on her car for $30,000, but then turned around and, and forced you to give her about $30,000 to $50,000 to help save her business. Meanwhile, you got a whole ass uncle who lost his logistics company and he only needed you to get him $5,000 to save it and you wouldn't even give it to him. But all these so-called friends, you just, you just giving it out, just giving it out.

Okay, well listen, I— well listen, well I— listen, I would love to sit here with you all day and chop it up. We got another interview. But, um, I'm sure the Winos are gonna hit you up, child. They're gonna, um, they're definitely gonna hit you. So I don't know how it's gonna go, um, but listen, uh, I hope you guys can work it out because you are family at the end of the day. And, um, I do wish that Clarissa would get away from that married man, but you know, people are very— people are very, uh, what do you call it, um, what's the word I'm looking for— rebellious. And so when you tell them to do something, they're gonna do the opposite.

It.

So I figure if you tell her Papoose is great for you, she'll probably find somebody else.

That's why I don't even tell her shit about Papoose. The proof is gonna be in the pudding. You gonna watch it, and then when she see it, I just— I'm like I said, I'mma be like the bitch on The Color Purple. What she say?

I'mma just sit back and see what kind of colors get put on the wall. All right, Shelita, thank you so much. It was a pleasure talking to you. White Oak Gang, gang, child. And don't worry, everything that you had requested, we're going to make sure we make that happen so that everything is concealed and everything. So I appreciate you. Okay.

I appreciate you more. And thank you.

Anytime. Anytime.

All right, now we got to go.