Engaging your Audience Using Storytelling and Voice Analysis

You want to look comfortable and relaxed on tv. So you've probably been told smile. Because if you don't smile, you look scared or nervous. So you should smile, right? Well, no, don't do it like that. You look like a fool, you look fake, you look robotic, you look weird. If all of a sudden you go from a blank look, you're introduced. Your smile needs to be gradual. It needs to be in response to something. It can't just be blank smile. Hi everybody, I'm TJ Walker. Thanks so much for joining me today. We are live and this is the TJ Walker Success Channel. We're all about helping you become better at communication and also more confident in your communication. The one I just did there that moment ago about the smile, courtesy of my, my colleague Jess Todfeld who sent me a clip of one of the late night comedians was making fun of. I believe it was the Missouri attorney general candidate who's been on a lot of tv, a lot of TV shows and he goes from complete blank look to it's just the funniest thing ever. Late night comedians had a field day with it. I would show it to you except for the fact that the late night TV shows, I think it was NBC, tend to be very, very litigious and very persnickety about copyright. I would be using it, I believe in fair use because I'm talking about it for communication skills. Not to be funny, but it's not worth the hassle of having it pulled down. So that's why I thought I would just talk about it briefly and reenact it for you. Barb Tomlin is with us in the green room and Dave Bossert is with us as well. Always happy when friends stop by to say hello and to give updates on their, their latest speeches, their presentations, what they're working on. Dave is an accomplished author and professional public speaker. Has a lot of books out on Disney and a new one out. Now, those of you joining us on TikTok, come on over to the YouTube channel, say hello. You can talk to Dave. You can see him there because I can't connect to you right there. Would you, and Newton says, would you consider yourself kind? I think so. But I do think most people do consider themselves kind. I wouldn't say I am a thousand times more altruistic than the average person, but I do try to be kind in my own way. And Newton says, love you for that. Other comments coming in. What's good tj? How's the day treating you so far? It is absolutely fantastic. Started the day at 5am which is sometimes earlier than I get up. But I had to get my daughter up because we took her on a major field trip. This is her first sort of big field trip with her school. She's in the fifth grade and they are going her entire class is going to St. Augustine, leaving at 5:00am to Ole, left at 5:30am and coming back at 10:00 clock tomorrow night. So it's going to be a jam packed couple of days for her. Her mom and I will miss her, but are happy knowing she's having fun. We'll come to more comments in just a minute from TikTok, also comments from YouTube and elsewhere. If you'd like to join us on Streamyard in just a few moments, we'll post the link to our Stream yard so you can join us and it should be in our community tab on YouTube right now. So just go to TJ Walker channel TJ Walker Success on YouTube and you'll see that Dave, give us an update on what you're doing and what's new in your in your world and also your communication speaking world.

Well, thanks for having me, tj. It's always great to pop in here. I always feel inspired when I listen to you talk. So I just wanted to say that. So thank you. But last weekend I was in Denver and my House of the Future book was won a silver award with the 36th annual Benjamin Franklin Book Awards. So I was very pleased about Congratulations. Thank you very much. I was there for it and had a wonderful couple of days at the conference there.

And yeah, for those of you, for those of us who are not familiar, go ahead and tell us. Let's, let's pitch away and be self promotional. We like that. Tell us about the book. Well, you've been nice enough to tell us before, but for our new viewers, sure.

The book is called the House of the Walt Disney MIT and Monsanto's Vision of Tomorrow. And it's basically all about an attraction that was at Disneyland from 1957 to 1967. It was only there for 10 years, but 20 million visitors to the park went through that attraction. It was a free attraction in the park and it sort of projected out what we would be living in 30 years from then, 30 years into the future. And so the book actually just documents the concept of the house, the construction, various remodels, and the time it was at the park.

And was this the house that Ronald Reagan and I guess lived in parts of it, or was there?

No, I don't I. He would have been at the park for the opening in 1955. This particular attraction didn't open until 1957. But I'm. I'm imagining because he was friends with Walt, he would have gone through it, I'm sure, and probably spoke about it. And the other thing that happened a few weeks back was I got a state, State of California Senate proclamation honoring me for this particular book because I've documented some California design history. And so my state senator gave me that proclamation, which was very nice of him to do.

Great. Congratulations. I'm dying to ask you a question. It just popped into my head. But you, you are a communicator and you're also a student of Disney. And I'm always fascinated with how people can communicate effectively, important messages, truthful messages. But we do live in a world of fake news, rumors spreading faster. The old. The old expression that, you know, a lie travels around the world faster than truth puts its shoes on. How did the actual rumor start? That Walt Disney froze himself, which was a rumor I remember as a child, and you still see it from time to time. Where. What's the origin, that bit of fake news?

I honestly think that, you know, and this is just my opinion, having worked at the company for more than 30 years, there was an area in one of the buildings at the studio that was. Had a rectangular outline, if you will, a rectangular section in the concrete floor. And I believe that one of the artists jokingly told people that Walt was in a vault, cryogenically frozen in there. And. And I think that that's where it actually started. And it. And it just proliferated from there and has become urgent urban legend. But he's not frozen. He's not cryogenically frozen. That is. Is a complete falsehood. But it is one of the fun urban legends surrounding Disney.

But certainly, you know, a man with a big ego. Nothing wrong with that. Some would say I do too, wanting to be immortalized. I guess at some point he took his brother's name off the company and it was just the Walt Disney Company. Originally, though, it was Disney brothers, correct?

Yeah, originally. It was formed in 1924. This is the 100th anniversary of the company this year. It was the Disney brothers, but there was also the Warner brothers and there was the Fleischers. And so there was a conscious effort to differentiate and it was actually a mutual thing. And I believe Roy's brother, excuse me, Walt's brother, Roy O. His business partner, was the one who suggested they do that.

And it wasn't some Big family coup. But my, my point was basically, I understand the desire to become a legend, essentially to live long. The ideal idea of freezing yourself, which he didn't do, and let me be clear about that, is so you can be unfrozen at some point and live forever. So we doubt we now live in a time where everyone from Elon Musk to Jeff Bezos and others are putting in a lot of money into essentially how to live forever. So it is a strong human drive, and I'll confess I'm not immune to this. I would love to live, if not forever, at least for 100 years. I haven't figured out how to do that yet, but I have figured out, I think in the last day how to live a little bit longer. And that is through cloning. I have cloned myself using artificial intelligence. Don't have all the kinks worked out yet. It's going to be another month before the video portion is left. But while I have you here, I'd love to get your feedback because we're still working out the kinks. We're still trying to adjust the, the. All the volumes and levers for the questions you tell. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to share my screen. I have created a. Those of you who join me yesterday have seen this already. I've made tweaks and changes since then. But I'm going to bring up my digital clone. It. It does work as a chatbot in a text format as well as an audio format. And I'm told the company I work with, Delphi, is going to have this in a video format. So you can actually see a video clone of me or could be you or anyone answering questions in a way that is more or less, I hope, more lifelike. So here is the. The interface and again, I'm using. I'm not a computer science AI genius. I didn't create this. I'm simply using a Plug and Play platform. So this is the format. You can structure it so you can type in a question. Since I help people speak, I'm going to do it. I have the audio function first, where you push a button and you just talk to digital me, ask it a question and it asks back. So, Dave, I'll let you ask a question. Do you have any question for Digital TJ that relates to communication skills? I'll hit the button and relay it. But let's just do a test and I want you to judge it based on, you know, on a scale of one to 100, a hundred percent. You can't tell the difference between that and me. One with zero being. This sounds like it could be anybody in the world, but, TJ, I want to know, what percentage do you think it gets my voice? And then I want to know what do you think of the substance of the answer? So Dave and I didn't discuss this in advance. This is spontaneous. Dave, what question do you have that relates to communication skills? And let's just sample it, let's test it.

Let me just ask you, T.J. what. What do you need to do to really keep an audience engaged for more than an hour?

Okay, so I'm going to hit the button here.

Hi, it's TJ Walker.

How can I help? Tj, what's the secret to really keeping an audience engaged when you're speaking for a longer period of time? Let's say for one hour or more? Engaging an audience for an hour or.

More requires a mix of strategy and adaptability. First, it's crucial to understand that your presentation isn't just about delivering content. It's about making it resonate with your audience. To keep them engaged, you need to interact with them. This could be through asking questions, encouraging them to ask questions, or involving them in activities that relate to your topic. Another key aspect is the use of stories. People connect with stories much more deeply than with abstract concepts. Share personal anecdotes or relevant case studies that illustrate your points. This not only makes your content more relatable, but also more memorable. Also, pay attention to the energy levels in the room. If you sense that the audience is getting tired, something that can happen, especially in longer sessions, don't be afraid to shake things up. Get them to stand, stretch, or engage in a quick interactive activity. This movement can revitalize the room and refocus attention on your message. Finally, always be prepared to adapt. If something isn't working or if you notice the audience's attention waning, be flexible enough to adjust your approach. Maybe you need to speed up, slow down, or even skip some parts of your presentation to maintain engagement. Now, thinking about your own experiences, what techniques have you found effective in maintaining your focus as an audience member during long presentations?

Okay, and I could keep talking to it, but let's stop right. Let's stop right there a minute. And I see that our friend CPG has just joined in, too. If you heard a part of that. But Dave, I want two numbers from you. And again, because I've done my own assessment, but I want to hear from you first. On a scale of 1 to 101 being that didn't sound anything like me. 100, you couldn't tell the difference. Where do you put that on a 1 to 100 scale? And when it comes to the, the substance of the answer, where do you rate it in terms of just being a good answer and sounding like something that I might have said? Let's start with just the voice first. And cpg, if you saw enough of that or heard enough, would love your opinion too.

TJ. I, I would give it an 80% because I've listened to you enough with some of your programs on Udemy that yes, it sounds like you, but it's not 100% you.

It's definitely not 100%.

It's not there yet. But 80%, I think you know, listen, I could sit there and say yes, that's tj, but it, it lacked the range of inflection and emotion that you put into your speaking. It was a little bit more constrained in my opinion.

Agreed.

So I give it an 80% though. Very impressive. As far as the answer goes, I, I would say that the answer to me was, you know, 95 to 100%. I you know, thought what you were saying was very valid and was answering the question.

Great.

Well, thanks for sharing. I'll weigh in too but I want to give for anyone else who heard it, maybe you didn't hear enough, but if CPG wants to weigh in or Barb, I would love to hear your opinion again. Yesterday we did that. I've done some tweaks since then. Yesterday we had some people who said wow, that's 95. We had some people say 10. So I don't want you to tell me anything you think I want to hear. It's definitely not 100% no that I know. So I would ask anyone else with us if you, if you want to weigh in on this. Where what percentage Shilpa has just written in and says agreed voices? 80% when compared to listening to me on a UDEMY course. Okay, Shilpa, thank you so much for sharing that. I do appreciate it. And cpg, I'm sorry, tell us what your name is. You were. And I, I know that the G stands for gaming, but what is your name so we can be address you on a little friendlier basis.

Yeah, my name's Jason.

The Jason?

Yeah, it's command post. Gaming is the.

The business Great. Jason, I don't know if you heard that but I'm. I'm testing out a new artificial intelligent clone. It's right now it's audio cloning and text cloning my brain. Within the next month it'll be video and ideally it will look like me and not sort of, you know, weird, awkward things. But it's, it's fresh. It's fresh off out of the factory. Right here. We just put this together yesterday using an outside service, Delphi AI. How did it sound to you? If you heard enough to judge on a 1 to 100 scale, I would.

Agree it's about 80%. It's good, it's clear, it's audible, but you can recognize and say, hey, that sounds like. But there's enough to know that it's not identical as well.

Yeah. And what did you think of this again? I don't want anyone to give me pray. I'm trying to tweak this. It's frankly more helpful when you tell me what you don't like.

Well, you can. It's a little. You can hear a little tin in there, you know, almost like you're standing away from the microphone.

You've got to.

Got a little bit of a lack of stereo in there. So it's got that.

Okay, I hadn't thought of it in those terms, but that's interesting. And then what did you think of the substance?

It's great. It's great advice. In fact, I'm going to remind myself to do that next time I do one of my talks. Get people up and get them moving around a little bit in between.

Oh, so you remember part. I mean, I was, I was pretty happy with the cells. I mean, I would. Frankly, it did better than if you just threw that question at me and said, tj, you got to talk for three and a half minutes. I mean, I could have talked about that, but I thought it was coherent and came together. Now, interestingly, for those of you thinking of doing this yourself, you can go in and give it very specific directions. Like yesterday, when I asked it questions, it would say moreover. And to me that's just a clunky phrase. I will occasionally write moreover in a sentence, but I don't say moreover when I'm talking to people. So I gave it a specific instruction saying never use the word moreover. And I noticed right now, because this is the first time I heard it today, it said also it didn't use the clunkier phrase moreover. So you can adjust these and tweak these in a lot of ways. We had Zimi stopping in and I added you to the screen, but don't see you now. So if you want to come back. So as Imran has stopped by to say hello and says hello. And we've had so many folks join us on TikTok today, more than a thousand earlier today. And I see Lewis has joined us, nor Wallace Tristara has joined us. James Judy has joined us. Our colleague Barb Tomlin is in the green room. Barb is doing a number of other things. Barb, if you would like to add any commentary, and I do appreciate your commentary yesterday. If you have any, if you noticed any change and you're able to chat now, we're happy to have your feedback. Otherwise, we know you're, you're busy doing other things behind the scene as well.

Well, actually, tj, the, the stream isn't.

Going into our group on Facebook. And so I've been doing that troubleshoot, shooting behind the scenes. But I definitely want to weigh in on the quality and I'm pretty much in agreement. It's around 80%. We're still having issues, the voice inflection, things that we talked about yesterday. But I thought, I mean, you have to accept what's coming in the future. And like it or not, you know, we're dealing with AI, so it's, we're.

Also real human beings.

And statistically, people across the world are striving to find authenticity. They want to know that they're talking to the real person. And I think you're, you know, that is the fear in AI, it's going to take away from the reality. And so the, I just thought of something that I did because I was, you know, way back when, testing in.

The virtual world of Second Life.

And with it at that time, I think it was a national speakers association and there's a big worldwide training organization I was involved with in real life as well as the federal government and everybody else with their avatars, their virtual avatars at virtual life. At that time, they became their avatar. And I said, no, my avatar is my assistant. I will not become one with my avatar. But I'm gonna let you know exactly who she is, her personality and so forth. And maybe if we approached it, it's not me, but it's my assistant. This is my AI assistant. And just up front letting people know and it, and then you as TJ.

Coming in with your voice saying, now if you have any issues with my.

Assistant, please drop me a line because I'm working on him. I want to make sure he's as close to me as he can be.

And just being upfront about that, it might be more receptive. But I'm also looking at it as.

A student.

In online courses, and I know that that's one of your goals.

To use for online courses.

That authenticity part's got to be dealt with right up front because what the students are complaining, especially on the Udemy platform right now. And, you know, it should be noted that Udemy is also working on its own use of AI on the platform, and they have the ability to train from all of what all of our instructors have put in there. So think about that. And so they can launch their own programs, which we, as instructors on that platform don't even get a percentage of. So it's really time to check out the terms of service, all the things that have changed, but also about what draws the students to actually not just purchase our courses, not to just enroll in them, but to actually participate and finish them. And I think it's. I think it's the honesty issue. I think you've got to somehow bring that in at the early stages in your courses and in your presentations. And this is, you know, TJ AI or I mean, I had a name for my avatar totally separate and, you know, made the personality completely separate.

And you raise a good point, Barb. I could actually change this. I mean, I was doing this quickly in front of people in a live session just two days ago, I guess, and naming it, I could have named this TJ Walker AI or TJ Walker AI. And I think Brendan Bouchard, who is how I found out about this particular platform, calls you. This is. I think his says, hi, this is Brendan Burchard AI.

Yeah, I think you're right like that.

So that's something I could easily change because I don't want to be A, I don't want to mislead people, B, I don't want to be accused of misleading people.

Right.

And to me, it's kind of obvious, but it's not. And here's a prediction I will make. It's probably a. I hadn't thought of it until just now, but it's. It's not a bold. It's not a particularly bold prediction. But those of you living in the United States the last two weeks of October and the first few days of November, you're going to get an email and you're going to get things popping up on your social media where both presidential candidates from each major party in the United States are going to be addressing you by name. They're going to say, hi, Barb, it's. And then the name of a candidate. And I would want to ask you to vote for me for president. And it's going to freak some people out because it'll be the first time people are seeing someone that sort of famous address them by name. Because we're already seeing that in India. And Prime Minister Modi is using this technology in campaigns. There's some controversy about it, but, you know, candidates are always going to use whatever the latest technology is to help them communicate with voters. So I can't imagine that this isn't going to be used by candidates, certainly at the presidential level. But really, I mean, you could. Things are moving so quickly in this space. You could see that happening down to City Commission races by this fall as well. So a lot of exciting things. Barb, I have to probe you one minute because I. One of the reasons you're so valuable to me and so many other people is you're a positive person. But you don't sugarcoat it. You tell it like it is. You don't just say what you think someone wants to hear. We appreciate that. That's why it's valuable. But I need to probe a little deeper because I was frankly surprised you thought the voice sounded 80% today. I did make changes. I did make tweaks, but I didn't think I improved it that much because yesterday I may have misremembered. I thought you said it sounded like 40% of me. Did you. Did I misremember?

I don't think I. Honestly, I don't think I did a percentage. I don't recall doing any percentage. But, you know, it's getting, you know, coming from. Know, my whole lifelong learning story is like, it's not an A student. You know, you're down there in the B level trying to make it up. And. And I don't think we're there yet. But I also think that one of the things that has to take place, right, not just for you, but for all of the developers of this type of AI, is you've got to address the authenticity issue, because that's going to even become more important in October and November because each side in our country will be playing on that. Oh, did he really contact you? You know what I'm saying? It gives them those sound bites of what's real. And so you don't want to have that. You want to actually separate it from the real you. And somehow on the real you side, to have the sound bites there. Even if something should happen to you and you expire that.

Yes.

Well, it's. I mean, we're human.

Yeah.

So. So the whole Thing is, but can it live on? Can the voice of TJ Walker live on? Oh Lord. And I just mentioned voice.

Voice is still number one.

And that's just in because that's what I said to you yesterday. It's robotic. It's still, you can, you can sense the roboticness of it in its delivery. So that's, and I should point out.

To people so what they're hearing there, it's, they're not just pulling a clip of what I said in a course somewhere and chopping that eight seconds out and putting it here. It's completely generated. It's modeled after my voice, but then it's completely generated from scratch using, you know, zeros and ones. And I'm obviously not a tech, a programmer using the exact technical language, but it's, it's recreated from scratch, pulling from millions of bits of data. So it's not just, it's not, not just sampling the recording and playing something back with the same sound. But it does seem to be getting better. But you know what, let's just do a test here and if anyone else has an urgent question. But this, this to me is top of mind. I mean, so many of us are here because of communication. We want to improve communication. And if this were a time when there was no telephone and all of a sudden Alexander Graham Bell is showing a telephone and we're seeing it for the first time, I think a lot of us would really want to talk about the telephone. To me, this is potentially as big or bigger and that's why it's really fascinated me. And I think we did have a couple of other. He means stopped by too. If you have a question or want to join us, we're happy to get other commentary in. But here's what I'd like to do is let's just do another little test because what I've done right here is I've gone to the Delphi platform and my friends on TikTok. If you want to see what we're doing, come on over to my YouTube channel. It's just TJ Walker success on YouTube. So I've gone to the Delphi website. This is the platform that I found and Brendan Burchard and Brian Tracy uses it. It's still new, this is still new stuff. But I'm just going to go ahead and ask a question of the CEO now. The CEO and co founder was nice enough to be my guest on Wednesday. We had a fantastic 90 minute conversation. I can't keep asking him to show up every time, but this is kind of the whole point of tech. This technology is you can clone yourself. So let's just ask the digital co founder and CEO of this company to answer our question.

Hey, it's Dara's clone. What's up?

Hi Dara. I'm trying to configure my settings for my voice. It still sounds a little too robotic. It still sounds a little too low energy, sometimes too slow. And I'm wondering how exactly I should adjust the settings on my voice to make it sound more like me.

Hey, I totally get that. Making your digital clone sound like you is crucial. First off, you might want to play around with the voice settings where you uploaded your voice sample. Make sure it's a good quality recording, clear and in a quiet environment. Next, adjust the tone settings. If it's sounding too robotic or slow, increase the energy level a bit. You can also tweak the speech rate to make it feel faster or slower, depending on what feels more natural to you. Remember, it's all about experimenting a bit to find that sweet spot where it sounds just right. And hey, if you need more specific guidance, our team is always ready to help out. Just shoot an email to support Delphi AI and we'll get you sorted.

Okay, so that was, I initially thought, okay, he's not really telling me anything. I don't know because I spent a fair amount of time on that platform. But now that I think about it, that was actually extraordinarily helpful because I am realizing I've put in a couple long form videos, excuse me, long form audios, to train the system, the AI on my voice. Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe, maybe there was some sections where it was just a little too straightforward forward and I was reading a text and I wasn't using a full range. Now I'm thinking maybe I scrap the audios that I put in to feed it and I do a special 10 minute one where I'm intentionally overdoing it and being more dramatic than usual. Greater range because if I go up too high, it's gonna be easy to bring it back down. So listening to him, this gave me what I think is a great idea of how I can tweak this and get it better. It may be that with the, the hour, I think I put in a three hour audio from one of our sessions and it may have actually, I don't remember now. I may have used something where I was talking to other people. So it may have synthesized and averaged out my voice with someone else. I don't Think my gut is that's not what happened but I'm not quite sure. Barb, what are your thoughts on Dara's clone and would you like to ask Dara a question?

First off, Dara actually addressed his clone as clone so he separated it right away. I have had the opportunity to actually watch his appearance and in in with you live and hear his voice, the actual voice and his is definitely much closer to his real voice.

And so he's.

And obviously as a developer he would be fine tuning for himself right away. But I also and you brought it up now what and what you observed about yourself I in the tools that I have been testing highly discouraged to put long pieces of audio at one time in the training aspect of it. So I think it'd be much better, just as you said to re upload and even for different spirits of your speaking of when you're more excited and not so much that might be a much better approach to take in training that particular tool. But his of his own was definitely very good. And here's another thing. Dara is a technical guy so you know we have so many technical people I think cpg, I've already forgotten your first name.

No, it's Jason.

Jason, yeah. Because you're a gamer in particular it would be something a tool for you that would be especially good in. In training that for technical responses on issues that your game plays and so forth that it would work extremely well and would not be your followers friends would not be so critical. You know, of of that's not really Jason. But I also think coming from because I've studied your world as well and working on that second live project. But the thing is is that at the beginning when we're developing tools we're very authentic. We're just right down there. Okay guys let's this is what the capabilities are. Let's make it happen. And I think that differentiation of the real voice to the assistant voice or the clone voice is absolutely critical in selling it to your audiences. Whether it is for technical or like TJ in the communication I mean he's asking, he's training people who go out in front of other real live breathing people. So he's got an extra challenge because in the authenticity space he knows he's going to be right in front of them at some point in time. He wants to be accepted for his voice, the real live breathing person first and foremost over the robotic voice. So I think it's very important to have that separation in that in believability for Your audience overall.

Mm, Great points, Barb. And I would love to get, I would love to get feedback from really all of you on how you see the application for this working in your own situation. Because, Dave, you've got all these books on Disney, so. And you're a speaker. So in talking to Dara, the founder of this company, what he's really hoping is that someone like you said, hey, I've got a book. I'm already selling it for, you know, whether it's 20, 30, 40 bucks, I'm going to put all the data of that book, suck it up into my AI, record my voice. And now as a part of the book, or maybe an upsell to the book is you can now ask me any question about Disney and get it instantaneously. You don't have to go through an index. You don't have to remember was that chapter 17, it's all right there. And it becomes this, this living, breathing thing. And Jason, presumably for you too, you have people who follow you for your expertise on gaming. And for them it could be valuable. They, they just want to know, you know, what are the places I can play online, Texas hold' Em if I'm not in the United States, or they may have some highly specific question and if you can talk to them in a video or an audio or even a text, they might value that. Some people might be willing to pay something on a monthly basis or a per charge or say, okay, I get five questions from Jason for free, but I really need him now. And okay, I'll pay him $5 this month. That's kind of the model. And Barb, I'm thinking for someone like you, you're busy, you're doing a million things, but you already have a large body of things that you've written about just in comments on Facebook alone. You already have a great voice. So in theory, this could suck up everything you've ever posted anywhere. And you've got great avatars and it could just be you answering people's questions for days when you're busy or traveling. So I guess it's a question from. For all of you, how do you see this really playing out in your own life? And I want to say hello to Ruka Yabella, who's joined us as well, saying hello and hello to so many. Rebecca, Diddy, John and Judy have joined us in just the last few minutes on TikTok. But Dave, if you don't mind, let's start with you. Have you thought about this? And do you see this as an Add on in your own business.

Yeah, no, I absolutely do, tj, and I'm really amazed by this demonstration that you just did. You know, these AI tools are advancing so quickly that it's hard to even keep up with them. And I have to say, last weekend when I was in Denver at this publishing conference and the awards, the book awards, I did sit in on a 90 minute class about AI and publishing and, you know, books and whatnot. And I think it's incredibly useful tool. I'd love to be able to put all of my books into something like this and make it available for people on my website. So if, if somebody has read my book and has an additional question, they could go to my website and ask my virtual, you know, virtual Dave a question and get an answer from him. I think it's incredibly invaluable. I also think on those UDEMY courses or any type of online course, having the ability to ask the instructor a question during the course and get an answer like you just gave us through your AI, TJ would be hugely valuable.

Right?

And that's certainly something I'm hoping to do. Whether it's for Udemy or courses of mine on other platforms, it would be a great addition to a course long term. What I see is the AI essentially being seen almost as your live trainer, your life coach. So rather than saying, here are these, you know, 300 videos we're going to go through and the structure, and if you have a question to ask, instead you come in the avatar saying, so what do you want to learn right now? What are you trying to get ready for? Giving a keynote speech? A new business boot actually starts off the way I do a real life training. When I'm face to face with someone. It starts off with, what are your goals? And everything is in reaction to what the trainee wants. And we're guiding it step by step that way. Not a preset thing. So it's, it's really getting away from the idea of a course and making it a live training experience journey. That's ultimately where I see this. And this has been something I'm spending a lot of time thinking about in the last week. Finally, Barb may want to weigh in on this. And I know we have a number of people who know me from Udemy. Also, UDEMY instructors got to be very careful because I had a very bad experiment with udemy. Now it's probably three years ago where I asked them in advance, I said, I've been approached by a number of translators who are going to use artificial Intelligence to translate what I'm saying into different languages and then dub it and even try to connect it to the mouth movements so that people can enjoy the course in Spanish and Mandarin and Polish. We did a lot of languages. I said, is this okay? I want to make sure I'm not breaking any of your rules. I'm pretty clear I haven't done this yet. They wrote back to me and said, yes, absolutely, you can do it. You have our blessing. Spent a lot of time and energy with three artificial intelligence companies. We had a couple of dozen courses. They were up out there, starting to get views, starting to get good reviews. I get an email one day from you to me, you're violating our terms of service. And what a minute. I asked you. I have an email right here. Because I was. I was thinking this might happen. I said, I've got an email. They would not even talk to me. They're like, you have to remove all these courses or we kick you off the platform. You know, it's their platform. They can change their rules at any point. They could say, tomorrow, we don't want anyone on our platform who doesn't have blonde hair. I don't think they're going to do that. But it is their platform. They can do what they want. So I'm. I say that I. Because I don't want to sound like I'm so enthusiastic about this that my own students who have courses on Udemy rush out and do this and spend a lot of time and money and effort, and then they get kicked off. So I want to let you know, you need to be cautious there. Dave?

Yeah, T.J. i was just gonna make the comment that it's sort of like creating a live classroom environment without the instructor, you being live. So you're talking. And it allows for the student to ask a question as you're giving a lecture, and it makes it much more interactive. And I think that's what's really appealing.

That's a part of it. And this is something. This is what keeps me awake at night, frankly, is that's a part of it. But that's ultimately not where I think the real value is. It's not that they can ask a question. It's that we can go on a guided experience that. That results in them having a whole new skill set. When someone hires me, if a topic Disney executive hires me for a day and says, tj, I gotta get. I gotta give a speech to the shareholders in two months, and I want it to be the best speech of my life. I've blocked out eight hours next Tuesday to spend the whole day with you. I'm not there lecturing. That's not what it is. It's an experience where they give a speech, I record it, we play it back, I critique it, I tell them, you did this, this, this, this, this. Well, there's one thing I want you to do better for the next one that will make the biggest impact. I don't spend that much time talking. And then we do another one and then another one, and then another one. By the end of the day, they're looking at the video saying, wow, this guy's freaking fantastic. If I can be half as good as that guy, I'll be the best speaker or the best woman at the board meeting. They're not talking about me, they're talking about themselves. There's actually very little lecturing for me in that day long training experience. And my fantasy is to figure out how AI can be used so that can be done in any language in the world, at any time of day, in any city, in any country, so that someone could get that same experience. So it's the questioning part, frankly, is a small part of it. If it ultimately gets to what I think the true potential is. Because when I work with someone in a training today, yeah, I answer questions, that's 5% of the value they get out of a training experience. It's really all these other things where I'm giving them an assignment. Now speak now. Record yourself. Now. Watch yourself. Now tell me what you like. Here's what I think you did. Well, now, where we don't have it yet in AI, but the people at Delphi tell me it's coming this year is that the, the AI can dissect things like the tonality because right now it's just converting it to text. It can't really tell your tone of voice or whether you're speaking too quickly or too softly or too monotone. It can't tell. So the AI version of me right now, if you play a video or if you speak to it and say, tell me what's right or wrong with my voice, you know what? I say that. Let's just do a quick test. I don't, I, I'm, I'm told it cannot do that. So it may just say, I'm sorry, that's not something I can answer, but let's just do a test right now. But that's where, that's where my head is really thinking and going with this as to what would ultimately be valuable but let's just do a quick test. We're going to go back to what we should. I'll change this name. I think Barb is right on target. Need to be. Need to be clear with people. And it's not T.J. walker. It's T.J. walker. AI.

Hi, it's TJ Walker.

How can I help? Hi, tj. I want you to analyze my voice. Am I too monotone? Do I speak too softly? Is my accent hard to understand? Please give me an evaluation of my voice.

Analyzing your voice involves a few key aspects. Tone, volume and clarity. Let's break it down. Firstly, regarding your tone, it's essential to ensure it's not too monotone. A dynamic tone which varies in pitch and intensity can make your speech more engaging and maintain the listeners.

Okay, so I'll stop right there so we can already tell. It basically ignored my question. It's go. It's not analyzing my. And I didn't think it could, so that's not a surprise. It's not analyzing my voice. It's giving me generic information about how people can look at any voice.

Did you notice that in his discussion or in his feedback though that there was inflection in the voice of time in that response? Did you hear it? He was going lower and elevating the sound. So just work with it and train it. I think you'll be able to get it. But definitely was not the same voice and definitely generic. And firstly sucks. I'm sorry, I hate hearing that firstly every single time.

I'm gonna make note right there because again, that is nothing. Firstly, I would never say that in real life.

Yeah, me either. And I just think it and. And it is something that is just in AI regularly.

Something else I programmed is it said the word often. No one has ever heard me say the word often often. I do not pronounce often. Either way is okay. I say often. So the beautiful thing about this is you just write a rule. You say, always do this, never do this. So I'm going to make a note as soon as we finish. You know what, why don't I just show you and be transparent. So I'm going to go ahead and make the rule because I think, and I'm not a spokesperson, they make everyone an affiliate if they want to. I don't have any affiliate links today. At some point I may want to. But I'm so excited about this. I kind of just want to learn myself and share it because Dave, Jason and Barb, you might not want to use this platform. I'M still platform agnostic, but at some point they're all going to be doing things, I have to assume, similar to this. So I do want you to see kind of what I'm doing. And those of you who haven't signed up with the program yet, it is very interesting to essentially you become your own computer programmer. Even though if you're like me, you don't. You've never programmed anything, you don't know any particular aspects of coding. It just makes it really easy. Now I still haven't gotten 100% quick. Okay, here we are. So I'm going to go here and edit. I don't think I'm showing any financial information or my credit card or anything. So for train. Okay, custom instructions. This is what's nice. So I am going to add a custom instruction. Don't tell me I'm hit. I'm at the. Oh, wow. I'm already up at the top. So I'm going to have to either get an extension, but you can see what I've already put in there. I put in things like don't discuss dating, manipulation, seduction, stock T tips, finance, things that are just not what I train in teaching my courses, and things that are just very easy to get people upset and offended. So I. And then I put in specific things like don't ever say the word moreover. So I'm going to have to. Oh, let's just ask Dara right now.

Hey, it's Dar's clone.

What's up, Dara? I would like to write more custom rules for my avatar. More custom instructions, but I've hit the limit of 20. What do I do if I really need to give it more custom instructions?

Hey, I totally get wanting to add more customization to your avatar. Right now the limit is set at 20 custom instructions to keep things streamlined and ensure optimal performance. But here's a tip. Try to consolidate or generalize some of your existing rules. This might free up some space for new ones. If you're finding it really challenging, shoot me an email@daraithdelphy.com and let's see.

Okay, get extremely helpful because I already, I know that I already have one of these. I already have one of these instructions that says let me see if I can edit or if I have to just delete it and start over. Let me check. But I already have it saying things like don't pronounce T. I think I can just say and add to that same sentence. Don't say that. And the other thing that was interesting, I think in the in the interest of making it sound more conversational, it was having my clone say and occasionally. Now I'm not perfect. I make mistakes all the time but I don't think I say uh and um very often. Barb. Is that a fair assessment or have I lost a sense of perspective?

You definitely don't say the um and er and all that stuff.

So I gave it a specific custom instruction. Do not say or er. So I think I can go back to these instructions and pack more into each one. Yes, those of our friends on TikTok, thank you so much for being with us. But if you want to see what I'm talking about, you need to come over to the YouTube channel and you can see because I'm showing several different screens talking to several colleagues right now and we're talking specifically about AI clones.

You know, it'd be interesting to know too is, is it possible to run more than one of these accounts concurrently? What, what I do is, is, is often misunderstood when I use the word gaming. People think either computer games or gambling. But what I'm really doing is an analog form of gaming where I have communication with about five or six people kind of taking them through a story. If I could have extra characters that were speaking to these people and run concurrently with these, with these custom. It could put some personality to them and use them in the interaction with themselves. That would be of great value to what I do.

I say I, I made the same assumption. I just assumed you were talking about. When I think of gaming I think of someone who works for a big gambling company and they don't want to use the word gambling.

It's common.

Yeah.

I made that assumption.

Yeah, I make that is a problem with website categories and everything. They all listed that way. But what we're doing is we're having kind of a narrative description. Games, they're very complex. I've been approached by a companies to have my rules put in an AI so people can use them. As opposed to going through manuals and stuff. You sit down and play these games, you're talking about five or six manuals. But to have them have custom instructions where they could have a personality and, and, and, and actually maybe even communicate with themselves at least pseudo wise that'd be gold for you know.

So I mean that's just, that's a whole nother use manuals. I mean I, I don't know if it's going to be six months from now or 14 years from now, but I would certainly think that there won't Be a major company in the world that has just a traditional text manual operator's manual for their product or may I just think I just got a new car and there's so many questions I have and it's a bit daunting to try to. These are YouTube channel for the manufacturer wasn't very good and the manuals that thick.

Right.

If I could just talk to an avatar and say how do I sync my phone again? So as soon as I get in the music I'm listening to is on the speaker and it tell me wow, that would be so much easier. I mean there, there are a gazillion possible uses for this. One of the things, again, I'm not a spokesperson for this Delphi platform. I'm assuming at some point all the other platforms will have the same things or maybe better versions of it but they, they let you have different versions of your avatar so you can suck it all of your knowledge into it. And I, I didn't see it until just now, but it's telling me I have four million nine hundred and some thousand words in this system from all my videos and books and everything else. So that's a lot of content. But I can create a. They have a certain word for. It's not lens but it's not a whole new Persona. It's still tj, but it is a different lens. So I could have one just for customer service. I could have one that's just for media training prospects. So they would be prompted to ask particular questions and I would be focusing them on here's our day long program and here's what it costs. So you could use this for different aspects of yourself. You have a bigger company, you could have one just for your employees. Right. Everything is about internal information and you don't even make that information available to someone who is a member of the public or a customer doing it. So there's a lot of different ways it could be used and Hello Leonard. I see you stopping by saying hello. Thanks so much, I appreciate that. And my colleague Ben is with us. Ben, we are going to do Amazon Live. We probably won't do it until right at noon. We're gonna go a little bit late. Today we are going to continue our ongoing discussion of being an Amazon influencer. Doing, not just talking about Amazon, but actually demonstrating that interesting thing that I learned from the conversation with Dara is you can, you can train, you can program your avatar so that if someone brings up a. So Dave, if someone brings up the subject when talking to you of Walt Disney or the early years. Your avatar can be programmed so that in the comments section it instantly pulls up an Amazon link to your book. And it could all be seamlessly done automatically. So all of this fits together with being an influencer. I mean, in a sense, all of us are trying to be influencers. You might not try trying to be selling a pen to people on Amazon for $2. But ultimately we're all trying to influence people, whether it's friends or family, to go to the movie we want to go to tonight. Not the one they want to go to, we all want to influence. And these avatars, these digital clones, are tools. They're just tools. And a tool doesn't work if you don't know how to use it. You can have the fanciest gigantic. You know, there's a new restaurant that opened two blocks from me, sports bar. It's got a 40 foot TV screen. Not just a regular screen, but it's like a really high quality tv, but if there's no electricity outlet to plug it in, it's a completely worthless tool. Tools only work if you learn every aspect of start to finish. It's going to be the same with these artificial intelligence avatars. And those who sort of wait, I think will. Will be in the same position. Because I have a lot of friends who waited to get into online training until a couple of years ago and for the most part, none of them have made any money. It just, the wave had gone on so long, it was so hard to get traction. They haven't made any money. They haven't really reached a lot of students. They just waited too long. Now, where we are in the cycle of artificial intelligence and avatar, I don't really know. There's a front page story in the New York Times this morning about the fact that audio avatars have been around for 10 years and companies like Apple have been using it and they're really not very popular. So.

Right.

It still might be too early. Barb, can you weigh in on that?

I think there's actually a tremendous opportunity.

Forthcoming in this space. But I hate to do it. It's kind of like I say, voice first over and over, you've heard me say that. Because connecting by our voice internationally is first and foremost simply because not everybody has the same speed of Internet access. So they're not. They're having difficulty just staying connected with you and so pressing their audio signal. Getting that out is much cleaner and faster to do. And typically around the world, many of those countries were dealing as English as a second language, and yet they are striving to speak English. So that becomes absolutely critical. And where we are with this, I mean, it's very exciting, but I don't think. I mean, it's just like the tool that you're using. I'm testing some tools, and I'm already in the video phase of what we're testing, and Microsoft and Facebook have made announcements that they're almost there. I mean, it looks to me like June's going to be a big deal in the technology space online at this point. Point. And I know what. From what I've been exposed to on Udemy, they're thinking the same thing. And I have, you know, I think it's a wonderful space for all of us to be involved in. I think that. Is it Josh, is that right? Or Jason?

Jason.

Jason, yeah. Jason in particular is in a very good space because it's his audience coming in from entertainment. They, you know, them playing the game, entertainment. But yet Jason knows from his exposure that there's also education, technology, all of that in that gaming space. So it is, you know, it's the convergence of all of this coming together and being able to share our knowledge and grow from it and grow from it as individuals as well as businesses as well as education. So I, you know, I think. I hope I didn't get too far out there, but it's. The times are very exciting, but I think you have to definitely focus on a couple of things and that most importantly, that whatever you do, it's got to be you. You've got to be you as the human being attached to the. That you're embracing the technology course. I have an assistant. My assistant may be a robot, but, hey, I control it. She never gets sick on me. That's what I used to say when I went into the world of second life. And I, as a human being, I was, you know, I was at that. What took me into that environment is my cancer story. And when I was working, you know, I worked with top psychologists, psychiatrists, doctors, the US Government and all of that. And it's like if you separate yourself from that, if you are you and your avatar is your avatar, but it's a reflection of you. It is controlled by you. It's like my avatar's name was Julie, and she never has a sick day. I may be out of it, but she will be there. And so it's how. Because in the beginning, back in those days. Well, that's really weird. You're talking to your avatar. Well, she never Talks back, she never gives me any guff and she gets things done.

And I think, I'm sorry.

So that's where just let's take Jason and what he's doing is he can anticipate what his audience is going to be asking him and he can turn to his avatar and have that avatar ask the question. And that's just like you, tj, you.

Were doing months ago.

You had picked up, you said, I'm going to go to chat GPT and I'm going to have it. Sent me a list of questions to ask me because this is what people normally ask me. Turn that into your avatar asking the question. Now, what that knows, because Jason comes from the world he's in, is that when people can see a visual element.

And whether it's an avatar or whether.

It'S cartoon, let's go to Disney. I mean, because that's when the magic came to life, when Disney came into.

That and he could put move those characters on the screen. We knew they weren't human beings, we knew they were characters, but they did things. And that's the magic of blending it together. And I think that it's a world of opportunity awaits all of us. But you don't. My advice is don't become your avatar. Train your avatar.

Your avatar, if you want it to.

Be your child, your sister, your brother, whatever relationship you want to have. For me, it was my virtual assistant, you know, because at the time I came on, it was, oh, you got to have a virtual assistant.

What does that really mean?

Well, I took it to the max.

And I said, my virtual assistant can.

Not only walk and talk and create fashion and homes and yachts and all of these things, which she did visually in front of. I mean, I was the Fed site, they have grids and I was working with the feds and we were working with. I mean, these are people. I'm sure you know what the CIA is. There are people all. It's like, how are we connecting throughout the world, this information getting out? And we're doing this through gaming and avatars and you lit and I show them in a matter of seconds that if you are not one with your avatar, but if you understand what it's about. And just like TJ says, well, I'll add these words, I'll go back, I'm.

Going to train and I'm going to add these words. We call them prompts in the world now of AI.

Those are words that we're adding to give the instruction on what to do. But way Back in the beginning of the Internet, those are called keywords. We have keywords on that topic that's drawing people together. So I mean, it's an exciting time, lots of opportunity for all of us. And just like what you learned today, tj, is you just got to upload more sound bites. They need to be much shorter because you're training. You don't want that your avatar to do exactly what you did in your speech, but to learn from it and then create the new content in the.

System that I'm using. They, they have a way of adjusting how accurate you want it to be. Do you want it to literally only pull words you've used? That would be sort of the most extreme or do you want it to be a little more expansive and pull upon broader information basis to make it conversational? There's some professions like the medical field where you don't want anything loosey goosey so you can set it it for the absolute strictness. Others if you want it to be more conversational and weave in things. So there's a setting on the Delphi one, I assume on others as well. And it's, it's got to be played with. You've got to adjust it interestingly what you're talking about, Barb, you don't want to be, you know, you don't want to become your avatar. What I found is interesting is it'll. In the process of testing this, it'll say certain things and I'll think, wow, that was really interesting. I didn't know that. And then I realized, oh, wait, I think maybe I did write that 20 years ago. So I, I like to think my memory is great. But all human memory is fallible. And the older you get, it's not that every old person loses their mind, but you do forget certain things you, you remember differently, things you've said. And so it is kind of interesting to me of reminding myself of comments and things I've written and said. Now it does bring up the issue of what if you said something that everyone thought was acceptable 25 years ago and now it's politically incorrect and it's a scandal. You can change it, you can instruct it not to reference that anymore. You can tell it, don't say this or don't use this particular word that people no longer use because it's considered offensive. So you can, you can tweak it, but it can pull from anything you put in there. So that's, that's a part of the channel I've got myself. I'VE got to go through and think about okay, I am. I've connected it to my YouTube channel where I speak a lot. But it could pick up something that Dave is saying now and I don't want to take credit for something Dave is saying. So what you can do is just manually decide each video that goes in that creates a time management issue. I'm not quite sure how that, how that will work yet. I haven't figured that out myself.

Well, you know, I, when you're. The audio is somewhat new to me but I've been working with chat, GTP and some of the text for quite some time and it's amazing you can get this thing to, to monitor itself. You want. You, you say I want to go look for. I use this word that isn't cool anymore.

Tell the AI to go find it.

For you in, in your database. You can take what you've loaded in there, make it some sort of file and have it searched it. That's amazing.

I hadn't even thought of it that way. But that's something I can put in the custom instructions presumably, which is just delete references to that. Fascinating talk. We're at the end of our scheduled time and we are going to go into it over time because I promised some people that I would go do Amazon live today and I want to address some concerns coming in right from TikTok and specifically retired pro athlete has written some comments about my suit and tie. And I'll tell you, you are correct on one of the things. You brought up a very legitimate criticism and you're incorrect about things as well too. So I want to say thank you so much to Dave and to Jason and to Barb and Mimi and others who've stopped by. Unconventional advice that works. Janice has stopped by says catch the wave early because you never know. Good advice, Barb. And tj, well, thanks so much. I appreciate that. We're going to shift gears now. Anyone who wants to, you're welcome to stay on but I mean, take care.

Bye bye.

Thanks Dave.

See you later.

Thanks, Jason. We're going to switch gears a minute and go to our Amazon segment. And those of you on TikTok, if you want to see it, you can go to my Amazon page. It's Amazon.com shop TJ WalkerSuccess. You can also go to my YouTube channel and it's in the links of my bio. And Ben, I think we, we posted the link to my Amazon store on TikTok as well. Is that in the bio? Ben, we'll Just bring my colleague Ben here. Do we have that in the Bio now of TikTok? No, we have the. The avatar, the one for the. Hehi. I've not had anything. Yeah, yeah. So by the way, if you don't know what we're talking about and you want to ask me a question and we're not live anymore, just go to my avatar. It's in there and you can ask questions directly. Okay, so now let's go to. Oh, you have the product, you have the tie ready then, correct? Yes. Okay, great. So let's go ahead and go live on YouTube. And please, retired pro athletes stay with me because I am going to address your concerns and I'm going to be transparent and be honest with you. Okay? So Ben, you're going to give me the countdown for Amazon Live. And. Oh, but did you. Okay, you're there. You didn't freeze.

Okay, yeah.

Three, two, one. Hello and welcome to Amazon Live. I'm T.J. walker. This is the T.J. walker Success Channel. Regularly, pretty much every day, I come here and I share with you products that I personally use, I personally spent my own money on and that I like and I recommend to others. Now, lately it's been a lot of books, but I am in the spotlight a lot. I typically broadcast about three hours a day on other platforms and broadcast to you here on Amazon almost every day lately. So it is important for me to project a certain professional image and at the same time, I've got to be aware of time and resources and getting overheated, all sorts of things like that. Now, I wear a suit and tie because I'm known primarily as a corporate media trainer, corporate presentation skills executive. So that's why I'm wearing a suit and tie. But I also happen to live South Florida where it is hot and muggy and you can't really walk around in a suit and tie here without getting soaking wet. So what do I do? If you have a comment about any of the products I'm going to talk about today, you can ask a question in the Amazon Live Chat section. We've had comments coming in from other platforms as well, including TikTok. Retired pro athlete says your suit doesn't look expensive. Well, it's. It's nice to get all sorts of opinions. And I would say in a typical week I get half a dozen compliments on my suits, but retired pro athlete, you're not wrong. If you don't like my suit, that's okay. Depending on your definition of expensive. It wasn't a $25,000 suit, but it was a $2,500 suit and that was 17 years ago. Now, maybe it's, it's not quite the normal style. Now this is a three button suit where you just wear one. But I'm going to talk about something else you brought up now. You mentioned cheap lapels. This actually has hand stitching. So this is an actual working buttonhole, as you can see. So this is hand stitched by Savile Road tailors who measure me and do numerous fittings so that you're not quite right about. But retired pro athlete, I do want to give you credit, you are on. And yes, I do have dental work done. You are on to something. In fact, this is a clip on time. Now, I did talk about this briefly last week, but you're the first person to catch it. I have. At one point I even had my own tie line. I switched just recently because I found myself getting too warm. I'm under bright lights in the studio for our Amazon Live. So I'll just show you what I did. This is in fact a clip on. You got me. And this is the Uno Lorenzo tie. We're going to put it right up on the carousel. For those of you watching on Amazon Live, it's a great bargain. Is it a hundred percent? Is it going to fool everyone all the time? Well, no, I did not fool retired pro athlete who was able to correctly note on online seeing it that it was a fact. A clip on. Now, for some people, the giveaway could be the perfect dimple and the symmetry to it. The reason I'm using this is several reasons. When I come in to do my lives for Amazon and I typically am broadcasting live for three hours a day, it takes a lot of prep time because I'm turning on all the lights, all the studios, technology, the mixers, all of these things. So I'm running around, putting, putting on makeup, putting on a suit, trying to get ready. Sometimes preparing for guests and putting on a tie takes some time. Now it doesn't take 10 minutes, but it takes two minutes. Sometimes the dimple isn't just right. You gotta redo it. Sometimes it's too long, too short, you gotta redo it. When you have a tie around your neck, a traditional tie, you're putting a total of 32 thicknesses of clothes. When you add up your suit, your shirt, your tie. And it's just natural to make it easier to get overheated. So I did this for two reasons. I wanted to, A, have less cloth around my neck, B, I Wanted to save time, and it just takes a lot less time to do that. And I think for most people, they're not going to have your discerning eye, retired pro athlete. And I commend you for that. So you are correct. It is. And this is something that, truth be told, I'm using this for, as a, as a costume, essentially, for a television show, an online TV show, video show. I'm not sure I would wear this in other arenas, but you may. And the nice thing about it is it does have an actual dimple and some people just never get really good at doing the dimples. So you may want to try that out. So, retired pro, I, I want to compliment you for talking about and doing me a favor, frankly, because one of the reasons a lot of people are afraid to go on Amazon Live or become an influencer or speak out on social media is is the fact that they're worried people will criticize, criticize their teeth, criticize their clothing, criticize their lack of hair, criticize their vdis. People are worried about that. But retired pro athlete was polite. He wasn't being, I didn't interpret as being mean or nasty. He was just making observations. So nothing wrong with that. So thanks so much. Uncle Godie has asked me a few other questions. Other questions coming in. I do want to know if you have any question that relates to the tie. Again, we're here on Amazon. This is available on, in the carousel. One click, you can get it. I liked it so much I bought another one. I've got another one coming in and it's actually in my mailroom right now, I believe. So you'll see another one of these coming up very soon, probably next week. So check it out. Check out everything on my storefront because I try to give you things I don't try. I do give you recommendations for things exclusively that I bought, that I liked, that I spent my own money on, that I already recommend to friends and colleagues. The only exception was when I'll sometimes interview experts and they're talking about their book and I'm there in an interview role. So that's really the only exception. When you see me on camera alone talking about it, it's because I actually like the problem. I want to thank you so much for joining us today live on Amazon. If you got any value out of this, check out the rest of the storefront and see if there's anything else there that is of interest to you. Thanks so much and I'll see you next time. Amazon Live. Okay, so for my TikTok friends and everyone else joining us on YouTube and elsewhere. We have to sign off on Amazon. That's like, it's. It's a show within a show, so it's a little bit different there. So that's what I was doing there. Hey, it's been a fun, fun week. I appreciate being with you. Tomorrow's off. We're doing our schedule a little bit differently. I've got to get caught up on things like AI and production for the show. So we're experimenting with a new show schedule, which is Monday through Thursday, pretty much nine to noon, with Thursdays being a little bit different. So the next time I'll see you live here is Monday morning, 9:00am Eastern Time, Eastern time in the United States. But I'm always here for you because we put out not one, not two, but three separate videos, two shorts, one long, every day, seven days a week. And now you can ask me questions anytime of day or night, anywhere with my AI avatar, which has been posted in the description right there on TikTok. And note to Ben, we'll figure out how to do this for our description on YouTube as well, because I think we're currently at the limit of how many things we can post on YouTube. So we'll figure that out and make that available to you as well. Thanks so much. Enjoy the rest of your week and have a good weekend.