Episode 16: Empowering Your Media Presence with Elaine Lloyd

Everyone is nervous and scared at big TV networks.

As long as they've got a good heart and they've got compassion, that's all you need to get by. I think in this day and age, my goal in life is to be a TV news presenter. And I feel, you know, I just feel so much more happier in myself. And, you know, you just empowered myself so much.

Well, I'm glad to hear that. Which, which course were you in?

It was a podcast course I went on and also it was for the news reporter anchor.

Well, I'm glad, Glad to hear that. You got a lot of value out of it. You don't have to worry about some executive saying, Ah, TJ's getting a little too wrinkled, let's kick him out on the street. You don't have to worry about that.

Brilliant. You know, though, I went and spoke when I shouldn't have spoke. I want to kind of come across as confident as you come across.

People ask me if I get nervous before doing interviews or being interviewed, whether it's CNN or BBC or talking to folks like you.

Hi, tj. I just want to say thank you so much for the training you have given myself. My goal in life is to be a TV news presenter, but the course I went on was absolutely amazing. It's just given myself so, so much confidence and I feel, you know, I just feel so much more happier in myself. And, you know, you just empowered myself so much.

Well, I'm glad to hear that. Which, which course were you in?

It was a podcast course I went on and also it was for the news reporter anchor.

Okay, and what position are you applying for right now that you're hoping to be the host for?

Well, right now I am applying for. It's a news presenter role for itv. So in the past, you know, I've always loved doing podcasts. I've always liked interacting with people. I have been out in the media quite a lot through the book that I've done. I've done a book called I Believe in Angels and I dedicated it to my late husband. So I just felt I needed more training and I needed, know, educating just that step further. And when I saw your course, it's just, it was a perfect course for myself.

Well, I'm glad, I'm glad to hear that you got a lot of value out of it. You know, I'm always trying to make things better. So one of the things I've added recently to all the courses is the video and audio AI coach, an actual clone that can coach people. So Rather than me just talking about what I want for the course, it allows you to be responsive or the clone to be responsive to you. You don't mind? I'll just do a little demonstration. Let's see if we can get some added value to you and what you do. We'll just do a little simulation here. I'm going to pull up my video clone and we'll see if it can give you some help. So we're going to call my, my TJ Walker AI Clone. See if it can give you some practical advice. And I, I did the Spanish version. It does now speak in multiple languages, but since I don't speak Spanish, we're going to stick to the English. So this will be the. The English version of the video clone.

Right.

See if it can give some specific help. Hi, I'm TJ's clone. How may I help you communicate more effectively? Do you have an upcoming presentation or media interview you'd like to rehearse? Hi, tj, My name is Elaine and I'm trying out to be the lead presenter for a major news program on ITV in Great Britain. What advice do you have for me to really show more poise, more polish. Because there is a big difference between being the anchor and the lead presenter versus merely a good guest. A good guest. Give me your tips on how to be a great host and presenter. Presenter. Focus on three key areas. Preparation, engagement and adaptability. First, prepare thoroughly by knowing your content inside out and anticipating potential questions. This builds confidence and allows you to handle unexpected situations smoothly. Second, engage your audience by making eye contact, using expressive body language and varying your vocal tone to maintain interest. Lastly, be adaptable if something goes off script. Stay calm and adjust your approach to keep the flow going. Practice these skills on video until you're satisfied with your delivery. What specific aspect of hosting or presenting do you find most challenging? So we can go on in a lot of different ways. So that's one of things I'm very excited about with the clone. Now here's the other thing.

Elaine, brilliant. Do you know I went and spoke when I shouldn't have spoke?

Oh, no, that's okay. It's supposed to stop listen to you, and I think it didn't quite hear it. So here's something else the clone does, if you don't mind me showing you one more time, that I think it's fairly interesting because it can give me feedback on what I'm actually wearing too. So that's. That's kind of interesting as well. Hi, I'm TJ's. Clone. How may I help you communicate more effectively? Do you have. Yes. I've got a question. I am trying to get ready for my my tryout as a host on itv. I'll be doing it from my home studio shop. Just wondering if you can give feedback on my set, my set design, my clothes, what do you see me wearing? What do you think of my set? What do you think of my lighting? And is there anything distracting with my lighting? Your set has a modern and professional vibe, which is great for a home studio. The colorful lighting adds a dynamic touch, but the blue and green hues might be a bit overpowering. Consider softening them to ensure they don't distract from your presentation. The camera setup looks solid, but make sure the lighting on your face is even to avoid shadows. How do you feel about the overall ambiance it creates for your audience? It's not exactly right. I think you've touched on some right points. What do you think about what I'm wearing? Your suit looks sharp and professional, which is perfect for a host tryout. The classic style conveys authority and confidence. Okay, so you could see it's giving me real time feedback that it's not simply giving me a generic loop. Now, for my clone, it was pulling from a side angle from a laptop. So it was in fact looking at the lights from a weird angle and it correctly picked out the point that the light was too bright from that angle because I didn't build my set to be looked at from that particular camera angle. So that's part of what I find fascinating by it. Elaine, what did you think?

I found it really fascinating and I absolutely love ChatGPT or I'm a biggest fan of ChatGPT. And then to me personally, I do think AI will take over eventually. It's just so good and you can just do so much things, so many things with AI. And you know, even like if I've ever done an article, I'll just get a few ideas, ideas from using Chat GPT. And I just think it's amazing. It just educates us so much and just so we know how to word things, how we put things across. And I just think it's the future. AI, to me personally, is the future. And I just love the way you've done all these clones. It looks so realistic. You think that was you, not the actual robot. When you're looking at it and you.

Think, wow, well, I mean, it essentially is me as much as what you're seeing right now, because what you're looking at on screen isn't really me, just a digitized version and pixels of me. That's what we were watching a moment ago. I agree with you. AI is the future. But what I think a lot of people don't quite realize is AI is the present as well. Because it's not like I am the head of some multi billion dollar corporation and this is all, you know, test stuff that consumers won't see for another 18 months. I'm just a consumer of a platform. This is relatively inexpensive. I'm using a consumer platform called Delphi AI. Now here's something that I grew up thinking was the few. I grew up watching Star Trek from the, in the 1960s version. I didn't watch it till the 70s where they had something called the, the Universal communicator in the 23rd century could convert any language to any other language. Well, it turns out we don't have to wait for the 23rd century. It's already out now. I accidentally played a little clip of it for you earlier, but here is my audio clone and I can go up here to the top right corner. I mean you're, you're a sophisticated European, Elaine. You probably speak French and Italian and 10 other languages, but I'm just, I'm the ugly American. I only speak English. So my clone now allows me to speak to people in all of these languages. Arabic, Bulgarian, Danish, Tamil. I don't even know what that is unfortunately. Vietnamese, you name it. So since I know just a couple of words of Spanish, we will try that one just as a test and it's going to identify itself as a clone, as I recommend. Hola. Hola senor tj. Me problemo is not. Amenudo setrata de la falta de practica y exposition. Te recomiendo grabarteo mientras habla sobre un te maqueno. Practicar. So I don't really know what it's saying because full disclosure, I don't really speak Spanish other than a couple of words. But the one thing I know with absolute certainty what that clone just did was a thousand times better than what I would do myself. That's really commercial because I only speak a few words. So that to me is what's so exciting is that now someone can learn from my expertise without having to filter things through another language. If English is their first, second or third or fifth, or maybe they don't speak English at all, it doesn't matter. And I might not speak their language, but we can still communicate. So this has happened just in the last couple of weeks. And again, science fiction authors thought this wouldn't happen until the 23rd century. And it's happening. It has already happened. Right now what I'm doing is a cons from a consumer grade platform. I use a platform called Delphi AI. They even have a version for people who want to start out for free. I'm not a spokesperson for them, but you can try it out. I have all of mine housed at my website, tjwalker AI. So if you want to try mine out more or ask it questions, or even do a practice interview, you can do so. But I think anyone who deals in the realm of ideas, whether you are a speaker, a trainer, a consultant, a professional speaker, a management consultant, anyone, a portfolio manager, a startup founder, someone in charge of sales or customer service, people who have to talk all day long and share expertise, they're going to want a digital clone because it can scale you and make you available for one on one style conversations with anyone in the world, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, any language while we are doing this show. Right now, my clone is talking to other people in different countries. And I don't have to be physically in two places at once or having two conversations at once. I can focus on you, Elaine, while my clone talks to other people. So that's really why I'm so excited about it. Yeah. Tell me more about your world and if there's any other way you think either I can help or my clone can help.

You can help, oh gosh, tremendously. With the courses that you actually do. And look how good. Look where you are now on your journey. You've done absolutely amazing. You know, you've, you've actually been a TV presenter yourself and with your history, you've done really well. So tell me about how did you very first get into the TV industry?

I won a contest. It was 1975 and I won a lookalike contest for a well known American sitcom star called Fonzie from a show called Happy Days. And he had thick black hair and I had thick black hair back then, greased back like a character from the 50s. And the reward was I got to do the newscast for my junior high school the next day, the seventh grade newscast. And that was kind of my first time on camera and I liked it. And then I started getting involved in student government, student politics and speaking a lot. Everything I've ever done since then is some combination of speaking to live audiences, speaking to the media, helping people with politics or business. So it's all sort of started from there. How did you get started?

I just mainly got started really through doing the book. And when I kind of done my book, it was like my book on my enlightenment. And I dedicated it to my late husband who passed away five years ago. But I've always liked to put a negative situation into a positive situation. So through getting in touch with yourself, it's been really good because for me personally, I feel like we can bounce off one another. You know, you're giving me information and I'm giving you information back. And it's just. I think it's crazy how the universe works, because I know I wanted you to come on my podcast, and then you want me to come on your podcast. So we're kind of both interviewing one another. So this is kind of like throwing me thinking, wow, I've never had this before. But it's just kind of resonated with myself, you know, I've just learned so much from yourself. And to me, it's just a nice, relaxed podcast because I'm only just starting out doing my own podcasts. And my own podcast is going to be called It's Lloyd's Worldwide Podcast. But that is down to you. If it wasn't for your course, I wouldn't be sat in this chair today.

Okay, well, I'm glad it had a positive impact on you. Big question I have. If this were 40 years ago, 30 years ago, even 12 years ago, I could understand wanting to have the goal of being a presenter on itv. I'm a little confused and not saying there's anything bad about it. I'm a little confused in this day and age, because increasingly we see people like a Piers Morgan in your country leaving traditional broadcast media because they figure out I can make more money, have more fun, have more freedom just being on YouTube and social media and Twitter. Here in the United States, we have people like Joe Rogan, who used to work for big TV networks. Start podcasting, grow an audience, and they're having more fun, making more money, reaching more people than they ever would have in a traditional media environment. So my question, why do you even want to be a part of a big bureaucratic organization? Nothing against itv when you could just build your own audio podcast, video podcast, YouTube, LinkedIn spot. There's so many distribution methods now.

I agree 100% with you there. You're spot on there. But it goes back to my childhood when I was a child. I used to always, like, say to my parents, I want to be a TV presenter when I'm older and this is my goal in life. And I think it's only now when I've kind of got to like 52 years old, I'm thinking I want to kind of do it before I'm too old. And, you know, age is just a number. You're never too old. And my late mother, God bless her, she used to always say, you can do absolutely anything, Elaine, if you put your mind to it. And it was kind of me mum who kind of inspired me to do me book and I've launched my own perfume and I kind of done everything I've wanted to do in my life. And then I keep thinking at the back of my mind, I used to always, you know, I've always said about being a TV presenter and I've not kind of carried that out. Another one. I used to always say, I want to have my own car showroom, Lloyd's car showroom. But now I kind of. I'm thinking, I should have done that way years ago. I should have set up doing my own car showroom. So I was kind of going on the road of do I do a car salesperson to kind of get me on that path again. But now at the back of my mind, I'm thinking, come on, Elaine. There's so many creativity going on in my brain and sometimes I think you've just got to think of one idea, one goal and focus on that one thing, because otherwise you can just get involved in so many things. And my brain, I feel I'm a bit like yourself. Our creativity, we just go on and on and on. And I don't know if you feel like me at times. Your brain never stops and you're just thinking of the next thing to do. And sometimes you think, you know, just sit back and relax. But with me, I can wake up early hours and I can just start writing and I'll be writing a song and this, I just never stop. But I think when you're just so creative, that's how our brains work.

Well, I'm a big fan of being creative and being creative at any age and not. Not just telling yourself, oh, that's it, I can't do that anymore. So I'm totally on board with that. And I wish I were as young as you. I'm going to be 62 this year. But I'm constantly trying to reinvent myself. I'm trying to reinvent myself all the time, doing new things. And in fact, I'll just share with you. I mean, just today I published a new book. Building an interactive AI video Clone.

Oh, fantastic.

And it's a new book, it's available on Kindle, it's available on paperback, it'll soon be available in hardback as well as an audiobook. And it's based on my course on how to make an interactive clone. Some people like to read, some people like to listen, Some people like to watch. I personally love to read. That's my prefer. Even though I spend most of my time making video in the world. But I figured out for most of the last 15 years I have focused on making video courses. I have found that to be the most lucrative for me anyway. It's been easier to reach large audiences that way. So I made this course, Interactive AI Video Clone Creation, the complete course, which is on sale right now. But I wanted to make it accessible to people who want to read books. So I did my first book in about 15 years. So I'm a big fan of always trying to recreate continuing the creativity journey in someone's life because that's what makes it exciting to hop out of bed in the morning.

Of course it does.

Here's the thing I would ask you to think about, which is sometimes we're all guilty of putting ourselves in boxes and not looking broadly enough. For example, the show we're doing right now, I can go home later today and watch it on my 85 inch TV screen. It is TV. If I choose to watch it on TV, it is TV. Would you know there are some people in your country who enjoy watching Piers Morgan on their big TV and they're in their living room and they're watching him from on his YouTube channel. So if the goal is television, you already have the power to do there, to be there today, you don't necessarily need that stamp of approval of ITV or BBC or anyone else. Again, I don't want to put cold water on your dream. Continue pursuing itv. But I am a big believer that this is the most exciting time in the history of humanity to be alive because there's so few gatekeepers. The number one thing holding people back today is themselves. Now, I'm not talking about the people who are the bottom billion people who live on less than $2 a day and are just trying to get subsistence. But for people who live in advanced economies, the top 3, 4, 5 billion people in the world, the thing holding us back is not the big TV executive who's in charge of network programming. It's not the publishing CEO in New York or London. It's not the radio executive deciding who gets The Saturday evening talk show host, it's ourselves. Because gatekeepers have lost power. And if you want to have a show seen by a lot of people, one avenue is to kind of get lucky and have ITV or BBC hire you. Sky TV can hire you, it's possible. But another avenue where you're taking much more proactive control over your life is to just start doing it today. Building an audience member one at a time. I did my first TV show in the late 1980s and I physically had to drive to every TV station in about a 800 mile range in the state of Florida. I would knock on doors of, of program managers at TV Stat. There was no Internet back then.

Yeah, that's right.

There was not even that much cable. I had to knock on doors.

Yeah.

And I finally was able to talk program managers into carrying my show. One station in each market. And, you know, after two years, I lost. I was probably $100,000 in debt. I wasn't able to get them to pay me. It was just syndication, just a joint venture syndication deal. So I personally was never some big national network TV star or syndicated talk show host as far as making big money. But I don't hate to sound like I'm bragging or like the ugly American who thinks money's the only thing that matters. I frankly made a lot more money than most network TV reporters or hosts because I have built an independent base through things like online video courses and YouTube and books and training and consulting and speaking and workshops. I built my own business as opposed to just being an employee. I mean, being an employee at a big TV network, if it lasts for 30 years, great. But these days you can be hot. One moment. I mean, just yesterday, a top reporter analyst at espn, the major sports network here in the United States, he was making a million dollars a year. Toast to the town. And later the day he was fired. We don't want to pay you anymore. It happens every day in the media. And I like, frankly not being able to be fired. I mean, I have thousands and thousands of customers and some clients every month. Therefore, I'm not dependent on anyone. So I would just toss that out to you as a possibility because to me, I see the people who have the most fun these days are not working for big TV networks. The people I know at work at big TV networks, they're, they go in every day scared like, oh, the whole network is going to get shut down. I mean, they get fired. They're 28 years old. They're worried about being replaced by a 21 year old who will work for $10,000 a year. Everyone is nervous and scared at big TV networks. Whereas, you know, you look at. Sorry to give this reference again, if he's not as well known to you, but well known American podcaster Joe Rogan. He's doing his show, he looks really relaxed. If he wants to talk to someone for an hour and a half, he will. If he wants to talk to someone for four and a half hours, he will. He asks whatever he wants, he dresses the way he wants, he takes what sponsors he wants. I mean, at this point, he's been paid hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. He can just decide he doesn't want to come to work for two weeks or a month and he's. He's in charge. And to me, it's not that we all want to have to be Joe Rogan, but I think for those of us who desire to communicate, which I sense you do, who desire, who enjoy some aspect of performing in front of a camera, which if that's the goal, I understand. If someone just gives you a talk show host or it falls in your lap, take it. But I think even then, the people who are most successful are still focusing their energy on podcast here in the United States. Top network TV host like Seth Rogen, like Bill Maher, all have podcasts too, because they're all preparing for the day when the network goes under or says, we don't want you anymore. They're building their own independent audience. They're building their own independent media companies. That's what I think the future is. And that's changed even since the course I made that you took on how to be a news anchor. It's changed a lot. I should probably update that.

Yeah, I can imagine. But it was still good because it's still got all the basics that you need to know because you need to have that knowledge. And even like you say, just reading the news, it's all to do with your body language, the movement, you know, you can't. It was just so beneficial for me to go on that course and, you know, just give me so much confidence and I just know it's the right path I want to go down. Maybe, you know, if I'm not successful to be an ITV news presenter, if it's way above me, I can be doing me, just carry on doing me podcasts worldwide. And this is why I apologize.

But I want to caution you, thinking of it as above you is one way of looking at it. What if you're above it? What if you could actually create a show and talk just about what you want to talk about to help the people you care about the most and talk to the most interesting people in the world that you want to talk to. Wouldn't that be far above having What, a set 30 minute or hour break where you got to talk about news, weather and sports and a lot of stuff you don't care about on itv? Wouldn't that actually be better?

Yes, it would. Yes.

The other thing about if you, if you create your own independent media company, no one can ever force you to retire. You know, the people who have their own independent base do it till the day they die or whatever, they just want to hang it up. They don't have to worry about some network executive saying, oh, you know, tj, your, your hairline doesn't look as good as it used to be, or you're getting a double chin. Let's get some, a younger, fresher. Tj, you don't have to worry about that when it's your own media company and you essentially are your own producer and director and network executive. So again, you're a lot younger than I am. But when I look at most major news networks around the world, they are, you know, they have some people who are older who are really well known because they've been on the air for 30 years and they have a fan base. But the average presenter, news reader, they're more than happy to find somebody 25, 22, really good looking, skin glowing without even needing makeup because there's always someone new like that every single day showing up at TV news networks. And you know, I, I don't want to have to compete with someone based on their hairline.

And yeah, to me, I think, I think everyone's beautiful no matter what age, you know, color. I just think me personally, you know, everyone is absolutely beautiful. You know, to me, I just look at everyone like that. I don't look at the age and it's how they are. You know, as long as they've got a good heart and they've got compassion, that's all you need to get by, I think, in this day and age, as long as you.

Well, but let me, It's a wonderful sentiment and I like to think I subscribe to that a lot of times too. But let me ask you, when you, when you and I have seen itv, but I haven't seen it lately, when you look at the people they hire as on air presenters and hosts and reporters, you know, think of like the 10 most obvious people you, you've seen in those roles. I'm not saying they're all beautiful looking movie stars, but now think of it, when you go to the grocery store or the mall or just the average walking downtown in a regular street and look at this, the, the looks of people there. Are you telling me that the, the host on ITV really seem to be completely average looking? Because my, I mean my perception is still to this day is that, that most TV hosts, reporters, anchors, presenters are substantially better looking than the average person on the street. But I could be wrong. Tell me your perception.

Yes, 100 they are. Because they've got to be heavenly at the end of the day, you know, you've got to be that person who looks perfect in front of the camera, not camera shy. So when you do look at, you know, an ITV presenter. Yes, I'll. TV presenters, they're all, I'd say they're all good looking, they're all kind of so confident and I mean generally they're.

Better looking than average. There's no doubt about it. So again, that leads me to why focus your energy there? And I'm not saying you're not better looking than average, but again, neither one of us is 24 years old. And when you are, when you have your own show on YouTube, on Twitter, on LinkedIn, on other social media platforms, you don't have to worry about some executive saying, ah, TJ is getting a little too wrinkled, let's kick him out on the street. You don't have to worry about that because the ultimate, I mean the whole reason a TV network is attractive to people is it has relationships with an audience, it has relationships with advertisers that will allow you to get paid. Well, these days, entrepreneurial minded people can do the very same thing with social media in their own independent companies. Now I'm not a fan of Rich, of what is this.

Brand?

A brand?

Russell Brand, is it?

Russell Brown, comedian with long thick hair. Brand. His name is not Ellis, but it's Brand.

Yeah. Russell Brand.

Russell Brand, yeah. I'm not a fan of his politics.

Yeah.

But he understands that, you know, he doesn't need the big TV networks and the big newspaper behind him. He's created his own media company. Same with Pierce. Piers Morgan. In your country and here in the United States, there's countless people who have made more money just running their own independent media companies than when they worked for a TV network. So it's just something I'd ask you. The other thing about it is you can do a show every day if you Want you can do a four hour show every day and get better and better and better. You work for a big TV network. Yeah, maybe they have you on one hour a day, which is plenty, but then a new program director comes in. Maybe they keep your salary the same and you're doing one hour on the weekend. So now you're sitting around all the time and maybe doing other things you don't enjoy. Create your own media company and you can be on people's TVs as much as possible. Again, I can go home today, watch our interview on my TV set if I want to. And it would be really big. You know, it's a large tv, so if the goal is to be on tv, you don't need any executive to give you permission.

This is what family keep doing as well and blessing me. Uncle ran me this morning and he says, I've been watching you on my big TV screen. I said, have you, Uncle Dave? And he says yes. He says, Dust Till Dawn Studios. And it's my local recording studio where I am now. They've been kind enough to let me use the studio for the podcast. And you know, they're amazing, they're like based in Chadderton in the uk, but it's just like when they do all my songs, you know, everyone, all family are watching like every recording, they'll watch it on the big TV screen. So like you say, you can actually do your own media, can't you, to get yourself out there and, and this is what I want. I want to kind of come across as confident as you come across and I want to, you know, have that audience that you have as well, you know, so the more I learn and the more, you know, I need to learn as well, the more courses I'll definitely go on. More courses that you've done as well.

Well, you, you look and sound confident to me, so that's great. It just becomes easier the more you do it. People ask me if I get nervous before doing interviews or being interviewed, whether it's CNN or BBC or talking to folks like you. And the answer is no. It's not because I was born with a thousand times more confidence in anyone. It's just that I've done thousands and thousands and thousands of hours in front of a camera. I've made thousands of videos. It's really hard to be nervous or uncomfortable with anything you've done a thousand times. The first time anyone's ever drives a car to the grocery store, if they're 15, 16 years old, it can be pretty Nerve wracking. But if you've been driving for 15 years and someone tosses the keys to the car and said we're short of milk and you go get it, it's pretty hard to be nervous driving to the store. Why? Because you've done it a thousand times. It is exactly the same thing.

It's like riding a bike, isn't it? Once you've, you've learned it, it's just practice makes perfect, isn't there? Where you'd never have thought you would have been shy as a child because you don't come across shy at all. To myself. But you know, like when I've been reading all about you and doing all history on yourself and I used to be really shy and you'd never ever have thought he was that shy child. Definitely not.

I was very shy as a kid. So, you know, people can, you can really take control over your destiny and your personality, I believe, if you actively decide you want to. I mean, you have a passion for counseling people, helping people during bereavement, other, other psychological ways of helping people. I would just ask you to think about if you could talk to the hundred most interesting people in the world that have something to do with your passion in life, who would they be? And then why not call them, write them, email them, text them, tweet them, ask them if you could interview them. Worst thing that could happen is they say no or they're too busy. They're too busy. But some of them will say yes. Some of them will have a new book out. Some of them will just be actively looking for attention. Why not do that? Because if you're. Again, I don't want to sound like I'm anti itv, but if you're an ITV presenter, they may ask you to, you know, interview a football star. And maybe you don't care anything about football. Not really going to be that interesting to you. I know personally, I don't like football. American football or American what, what we Americans call soccer to the rest, just doesn't interest me at all. I wouldn't, I wouldn't be a very good interviewer or someone like that. And maybe you would. But if you could interview people who are already in the space that you're passionate about, why not focus on that?

I've been doing that this morning and I've actually been via LinkedIn. I just love LinkedIn. I just think it's so good. People don't know how to use the platform. Sometimes people will say it's like Facebook, but I'm not on Facebook myself personally, but with LinkedIn because it's a professional business platform. I've always loved LinkedIn. Sometimes I've come off the platform in the past just so I can spend more time with children. And, you know, I've kind of deleted my old profile on there. And sometimes I'm thinking I shouldn't have done that. I should have just closed it down and then I've gone back onto it. But I've connected with so many interesting people and this morning I've had a few messages to and from people as well who I want to, you know, be on my podcast. But I just wanted you to be the first person. Just so I want to make sure I'm coming across okay, I'm coming across, you know, professional. And if there's anything you want to, you know, tell me what I need to do better, how to better myself, I prefer you to tell me that and I'll learn as a.

Well, one. One thing, I don't know if it's you, but it's. I'm getting a lot of pixelation and it's. I can't see you clearly. So my only suggestion there is when you're doing any kind of interview through Zoom or streamyard or anything like that, now it's clear, just make sure you have the absolute highest quality Internet you can, preferably not WI fi, but, you know, a plug, a cable that goes right into your computer for the greatest amount of clarity. That will help. And I. And because it's a little fuzzy, I can't tell if you're giving me good eye contact or if you're looking at me on the screen here. I can't.

I'm looking at you guys on the screen.

Yeah, you don't want to do that. You want to maintain. You want people to feel like you're looking at them. Like, right now I'm looking at you more like looking. If I look like this the whole time, I'm actually looking at you. But from your perspective, it looks like I am ignoring you checking email or Facebook or something. So I'm not going to look like this during the interview. I'm going to look at like this because I want you to feel like I'm looking at you. Plus, I want anyone watching this at home or office or anyplace else to feel like I'm looking at them. So I do want you to focus more on eye contact with the camera. So a little bit different than if you're in studio. Yeah, if you're in a studio, and you've got three cameras on and there's a guest sitting right next to you. Then you do want to look at the guest and the camera. The director will figure out what camera angle is the best or it may show both of you. But if it's done something with an in house studio or Internet studio, you really want to look at the camera. The vast majority.

Now that straight ahead at the camera.

And it's a little unnatural. The more natural thing is to look at the person I'm talking to, but it doesn't look natural. Great. Well, I really appreciate our time together. Is there anything else you wanted to know from me to share with your own friends, fans, followers and connections on social media?

Just to say thank you for this podcast, really. And the podcast is mainly. It's giving out ideas from both of us as well, isn't it? So it's, it's to kind of get me going to do Lloyd's worldwide podcasts. And I think everyone's got to start somewhere. And as long as you're confident and focused, you know you can do anything and you can get your podcast out there. I loved all the AI clones that you show me and I love that you can actually do it in all different languages as well. That's a amazing.

Yeah. And for any of your friends who are interested, again, they can, they can access it without. Not only do I not charge them anything to try it out, they don't even have to give an email address. They can just ask my clone questions and text if they want to talk to my video or audio. Then they have to give an email. But there's no charge for the first, you know, eight minutes of conversations and messages. So feel free to try it out. It's tjwalker AI. Plus I've got the new book out on how you can build an interactive AI video clone. That's on Amazon. You'll find out more about that on tjwalker AI. And if you're thinking about building your own, you may want to check out my course on how to create. It's a video course on how to create your own interactive AI video clone. Elaine, thanks so much. Hope to see you again soon.

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye.