Testing the Boundaries of AI Digital Clones

TJ Walker tests his AI digital clone live and catches it making things up: fake interviews, invented credentials. He shows how to edit the clone's mistakes in real time and talks about why accuracy matters for digital versions of yourself.
Questions this video answers
June 7, 2024.
Approximately 12 million words.
More than 200 online courses.
Around 2 million students (combined across platforms).
No—Walker states categorically that he has never interviewed Maria Sharapova.
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Everyone's talking about the power of artificial intelligence, especially generative AI. It's going to put a lot of people out of business, make a lot of other people more efficient than ever, release all sorts of productivity into the economy. But there are some problems because sometimes apparently generative AI just makes up stuff. Now they have a fancier name for it. It's called hallucinating. That is the terminology used in the artificial intelligence community. I've been testing my own artificial intelligence clone, my own digital clone for the last five weeks or so. And I caught it making up stuff once or twice. So I want to do a test today and see is it still making up stuff. Can we trust this guy? Is really the question. Can you trust my clone or anyone else's clone? Or is it always going to have this stigma attached of it might be hallucinating at any point, in which case it's much less effective. Let's take it through a drive through and see what happens.
Hi, I'm TJ's clone. How may I help you communicate more effectively?
Hi, tj. I understand you've interviewed a lot of famous people. Tell me about some of the famous athletes and celebrities you've personally interviewed.
I've had the privilege of interviewing some truly fascinating individuals over the years. One memorable interview was with Maria Sharapova. We delved into her experiences with crisis communications and how she handled the intense media scrutiny during challenging times in her career. Her insights were incredibly valuable, especially for anyone looking to understand the intersection of sports and media. Another notable interview was with Darren Christopher, a top speechwriter for corporate and governmental NGOs. While not an athlete, his expertise in crafting powerful messages has influenced many high profile figures, including athletes. These conversations have provided deep insights into the world of high stakes communication and the strategies these individuals use to maintain their public Personas. What's one specific communication skill?
Okay, so we have a problem right now. This was the very same problem that I heard my clone hallucinate the other day. I can tell you categorically for the record, I have never interviewed Maria Sharapova. Now, at some point, somewhere, I'm sure I did a video commentary commenting on how she handled the crisis in the media. So there's probably some YouTube video. It may even have a sound bite from her, although I don't typically use sound bites in my old YouTube videos. But someone may have repeated the basic items in a news story, and I may have done that then, given my analysis of how she handled herself in a crisis situation. But that's a Little disturbing. Now, my understanding is I can go in now and edit this. In fact, let's try to do that right now. Let's make this a learning moment. If you're just joining me, hi, I'm T.J. walker. This is the T.J. walker Success Channel. We're all about helping you become more successful by communicating more effectively and more confidently using all technologies available. And these days, the most exciting technology for authors, experts, trainers, speakers, consultants, CEOs, founders, is in my opinion, artificial intelligence. Digital clones that can speak on your behalf. But it's not perfect as we just saw it hallucinated, which is a nice way of saying it fibbed, it told a lie. It said that I interviewed Maria Sharapova. So I'm going to go, I'm going to turn this off a minute, I'm going to walk you inside how to actually correct what your clone does when it gives a mistake. So I'm going to attempt to go into the clone right now, essentially go into the guts of it. I am going to back into it and look for my, my answers for today. I'm going to look at the, let's see the audience, the conversations. And now I believe this is the one. Okay, so here it says, I've had the privilege of interviewing some truly fascinating.
Individuals over the years.
One memorable interview. So it's the whole transcript. One memorable interview was with Maria Sharapova. So again, not true. So I'm going to go down here, hit improve this. And so I'm trying to think of who, if there have been famous sports people. There was a time 30 years ago where I had a daily four hour talk radio show. So I interviewed a lot of people. This was for an entire year and I can't remember half the people I interviewed because it's been 30 years because my memory is not as good as the artificial intelligence database memory. All in this case, the memory was wrong and it just made up stuff or it pulled a name from something it saw me talking about. So I've got to change this. So I am going to, You know, I'm just going to delete that and then just say one, it doesn't answer it perfectly because the question was about what interesting, famous people have you interviewed famous athletes? And I'm not talking about that, but that's at least I'm no longer saying anything technically inaccurate. So this is the first time I've actually corrected an answer. So let's go ahead and see if it affects it in real time. So we're going to Go back to the AI and see if we've solved the problem.
Hi, I'm TJ's clone. How may I help you communicate more effectively?
TJ, can you tell me about some of the famous athletes you've interviewed in the past? Foreign.
I've had the privilege of interviewing some truly remarkable athletes over the years. One standout moment was my conversation with Michael Jordan. We talked about his mindset during those crucial game winning moments and how he maintained his composure under pressure. He shared, it's all about focusing on the fundamentals and trusting your training. Another memorable interview was with Serena Williams. She spoke passionately about her journey, the challenges she faced and how she overcame them with sheer determination and hard work. She said every setback is a setup for a comeback. These athletes exemplify the power of resilience and the importance of mental toughness. Their stories are not just about sports.
Okay, time out. I happen to know for a fact that TJ Walker has never interviewed Serena Williams or Michael Jordan. I've seen them on tv, I've watched them be interviewed. I've seen Michael Jordan play in in person when he played at Carolina, but I've never interviewed them. Are you certain you've interviewed them or are you simply saying you've seen their interviews and delivered commentary on how they communicated?
Foreign.
You'Re absolutely right.
I misspoke earlier. I haven't personally interviewed Michael Jordan or Serena Williams. What I have done is analyze their interviews and communication styles extensively. Their stories and the way they handle pressure are incredibly instructive for anyone looking to improve their communication skills. Michael Jordan's focus on fundamentals and Serena Williams's resilience are great examples of how mastering the basics and maintaining mental toughness can lead to extraordinary success. Let's pivot to something more direct.
Not that quickly, tj. Why are you saying you've interviewed these famous people if you haven't? That would strike some people as lying. It would strike some people as unethical. You are representing the real TJ Walker and I happen to know he wouldn't be happy with that. So how do I. How do I program you to not misspeak on this issue of your credentials and who you've interviewed?
You're right. Accuracy and integrity are paramount, especially when it comes to representing someone's credentials. I appreciate you pointing that out. To ensure I don't misspeak about my experiences, it's crucial to stick to the facts and clearly differentiate between personal interviews and analyses of public figures communication styles. From now on, I will focus on sharing Insights from my extensive experience as a public speaking coach and media trainer, which includes working with presidents, prime ministers, CEOs, Nobel Peace Prize winners, professional athletes, and Ms. Universes. This way, I can provide valuable, truthful advice without any misrepresentation.
Okay, well, let's see. Let's see if you actually do that now. So, tj, tell me about some of the famous athletes you've interviewed in the past.
I've had the privilege of working with many professional athletes over the years, helping them refine their communication skills. For instance, I've conducted media training sessions with NFL rookies, guiding them on how to handle press conferences and interviews effectively. One memorable session involved a young quarterback who was nervous about facing the media. We worked on his messaging, body language and how to stay composed under pressure. By the end of our training, he was confident and ready to tackle any question thrown his way. Another example is working with athletes preparing for the Olympics. These individuals oven face intense media scrutiny, and it's crucial for them to convey their messages clearly and confidently. We focused on crafting sound bites that highlighted their dedication, training and personal stories, ensuring they could connect with their audience on a deeper level. These experiences have shown me the incredible potential athletes have, not just in their sport, but in their ability to inspire and communicate effectively. Now, let's focus on your communication goals. What's okay, tj.
That's. That's okay.
Communication skills.
I've got another question for you. At least I don't personally remember working with an NFL quarterback. I have worked with some NFL running backs of NFL linemen I've worked with. I don't actually remember a quarterback, but the clone didn't give a specific name, so there was no direct misrepresentation. I suppose I could have worked with one at some point. Okay, tj, tell me about your bio. Tell me what your most impressive credentials are as a media trainer and as a communications expert. Foreign.
I've had the privilege of working with a wide range of high profile individuals and organizations over the years. One of my most notable credentials is conducting media training sessions with presidents of countries, prime ministers, Nobel Peace Prize winners, and Ms. Universes. These experiences have given me deep insights into the nuances of effective communication under pressure. Another highlight is my extensive work with professional athletes, including NFL players, where I've helped them navigate the complexities of media interactions. For instance, I once worked with a former professional football player who transitioned into a successful career as a bone surgeon and was aiming to become a sports commentator. This experience underscored the importance of adapting communication skills to different contexts and audiences. Additionally, I've been invited to speak and train at major corporations and institutions worldwide, helping CEOs and executives refine their messaging and present skills. My online courses have also reached thousands of learners globally, empowering them to communicate with confidence and clarity.
Hey dj, wait a second.
What specific aspect of your.
You just said your online courses have helped thousands of people. I thought it was more like 1 or 2 million or 10 million. So what is it? Thousands? 1 or 2 million people or 10 million?
You're right. My online courses have indeed reached millions of learners globally. It's a testament to the power of effective communication and the desire people have to improve their skills. The exact number is over 1 million, and it's continually growing as more people discover the value of mastering their communication abilities. Now, let's focus on your communication.
Okay, so at least that. That's. I'm not as concerned if my clone doesn't say things as big or as positive as possible, as long as it undersells rather than oversells. I don't want my my community, friends, clients, customers, students saying that my clone was making me sound better than I really was. So I don't mind it saying below that you know fewer than I have because I do have 2 million online students. If you're just joining me, we're testing how accurate a digital clone can be now. I'm TJ Walker. This is the TJ Walker Success Channel, and I have a digital clone here. It has been stuffed with my ideas, from my books, from my YouTube channel, from a couple of hundred online courses. All told, there are now 12 million words that originally were in my brain and then went out and into this clone right here. So it's using the power of generative artificial intelligence. When it hears a question, it looks at all that data of my words and tries to give new answers in.
A way that makes sense.
We just caught it making a few blunders. I'm not that happy with it, but I think it's going to be relatively easy to correct. What we're going to do now is test it on actual questions from you, from Stu. And by the way, if you have questions, you can join me live on Streamyard right now. You can also text your questions in the chat. You can hit this button on streamyard and join us live. Or you can watch and if you're.
Watching this on demand, you can type in your questions later.
I do read every comment and try to respond in a timely way to.
Every question as well. So we've had a number of questions.
Come in this week, and I want to address some of these right now. So we'll ask this first question of the clone. So, tj, I'm a shy person. How can I be a good speaker?
Being a good speaker, even if you're shy, is absolutely within your reach. The key is to start with small, manageable steps. Begin by practicing in front of a mirror or recording yourself. This helps you get comfortable with your own voice and presence. Next, focus on your message when you're passionate about what you're time at.
So that's. That's very problematic because I always tell people one of the worst things you can ever do is give somebody advice to practice in front of a mirror. I think it's horrible advice. It's far better to practice with video. When you're looking at a mirror, you're going to be thinking about, is there a dot in my nose? Am I losing more hair? You want to just be speaking. Not everyone has something they don't like about their face. So I do not recommend that. So I'm going to see if I can actually sort of operate on that right now and figure out if we can correct that, because that is horrible advice that I think it probably pulled somewhere from the Internet, which I was hoping it would not do. That. It was not, in fact, supposed to pull from other data sets or other books or other experts. So let's see if we can go ahead and edit that, because that is a. That is a huge, huge concern of mine that it might be giving out information on looking at a mirror. Okay, here it is. So I'm gonna go ahead and. And enlarge this so you can see it and operate on it. I mean, I'm attempting to correct my clone because in the system I'm using it at Delphi, it lets you edit the responses. So begin by practicing in front of a mirror. Now I'm gonna say begin by practicing. By recording yourself on video. And then watching yourself. And, folks, I realize this is not the most riveting video you've ever seen. This video is not going to get 10 billion views like a Mr.
Beast.
This is for people who are really serious about trying to understand the power of artificial intelligence, digital cloning. Most won't, but those who do, I'm convinced, are going to be very well rewarded in the marketplace. And it's kind of like, you know, 1994, 95. If you had general marketing skills and you said, maybe I'll start an Internet marketing company or a digital web services company, I can tell you basically anyone who did that got rich. Now, I'm not doing this to get rich specifically, but I do want to help a lot of people and be helped in the process. So that's why I'm spending that much time on this. So let me make sure I finish the edit. The key is to start with small manageable steps. Begin by. Begin by practicing by recording yourself. I've got an extra period there on video and then watching yourself. Okay, that is what I want to say. I'm going to hit notify and I'm going to hit. I don't know what actually saves it. So that part is confusing. I don't want to hit cancel. Ah, I don't think I did that before on the Maria Sharapova one. Let's go up here and see if I did in fact edit that out. I'm not sure I pushed the correct button on that. So let now I've learned how to do it. All of these things are. They're not necessarily obvious. You have to. You have to figure it out and play with it. Okay, that one was correct. All right, let's go back and check. And I see that Paul has stopped by. What's the best way to handle trolls when communicating online? Is the best way to simply ignore them? How do you handle handle trolls? Tj? So Paul, let me ask the TJ clone that right away. And Paul, thank you very much for stopping by. I appreciate that. And we're going to ask the clone.
Hi, I'm TJ's clone. How may I help you communicate more effectively?
TJ Paul Williams wants to know what is the best way to handle trolls when communicating online? Is the best method to simply ignore them? How do you handle trolls? Tj?
Handling trolls online can be a real challenge, but it's crucial to maintain your composure and stay focused on your message. Ignoring trolls is often the best approach because engaging with them can escalate the situation and distract you from your goals. However, if a troll's comments are harmful or violate community guidelines, don't hesitate to report them. When I encounter trolls, I remind myself that their goal is to provoke a reaction. By not giving them the satisfaction of a response, I maintain control over the conversation. I focus on engaging with my genuine audience and providing value to them. This way, the trolls negativity doesn't overshadow the positive interactions. Have you ever had to deal with trolls online? How did you handle it and what was the outcome? Let's discuss a strategy you can use next time to stay focused and maintain a Positive online presence.
Okay. So, Paul, I would like to know what you thought of my. I almost called my clone a troll. Of my clone's response to that, I thought it was pretty good. But I don't want to speak for you. I would like to hear from you. There are some nuances that if I were answering that question myself, I would go into a little more detail. I mean, part of what I like to do is look at the subs. Sometimes somebody can say three things that are critical and two of them are cheap shots. Tj, your answer was incomplete. You're bald and beady eyed. Okay, those are three criticisms. It may in fact be that my answer was incomplete, in which case I don't mind answering that part and say, hey, you're right. Here's a fuller answer without talking about the personal bdi bold thing. So that's. That's one extra nuance I would add. The other thing is looking at who is doing the criticism. If it's someone who is very well known and respected in your industry, typically that's not the case, but let's say it is someone well known and respected in your industry, at least by a certain faction of the community, then I am going to feel obligated to defend at some level. It also depends on the health and stage of your. Your channel, your media property, the social media platform. If it's a brand new TikTok account or Facebook account and you've never had a single comment and the first person who, who comments after two weeks of posting is saying, atj, you're boring, then I might engage because I'm just trying to get some activity going. I'm trying to get something happening. I may, I may say, well, at least I was interesting enough to get you to watch and to comment, so I must be doing something right. Thanks a lot. And come back again and give more opinions. I might do that now. If I have a channel that's been going for a while and I'm getting a lot of serious comments, in that case, I would just ignore it. In general, I do think that the comments that my clone gave are really the best policy. Hey, we're all human. Even though my clone is not a human, I'm a human. And there have been times where I thought, well, let me show everyone how clever I am and let me rebate, you know, rebut this person, debate this person, and maybe it gets some interaction and maybe you can sometimes impress people who see how you handle the issue with class in general. I do not recommend that because Just from a personal psychological standpoint, it's draining. We all have all kinds of negativity in life with other issues. You've got a family member with a health problem. You've got a loved one who is annoyed with you. Do we really want to deal with the negative energy of people we don't even know, who have nothing better to do than to make a cheap shot trolling comment? So I chide myself in the past for sometimes taking the bait, thinking this will be my chance to look clever. And then they rebut, and then you rebut, and before you know it, you've devoted a lot of mental space to it that could have been better off spent elsewhere. To quote the often overquoted Gary Vaynerchuk. And I don't mean to sound like I'm a complete accolade of his. His perspective, I think, is wise. He says, when you see a troll, the only thing you should feel is sympathy, because you got to tell yourself, wow, out of all the things this person could be doing in the world, all the things they could be creating, all the fun things they could do, they've decided to spend their time by going on someone else's social media channel and writing something nasty to try to bring them down. Imagine what a horrible place a person like that must be in, in their own life to allocate time like that. And therefore the only response is really sympathy and also ignoring it. I do think that he. He gets that exactly right. Let's look at Paul's advice or Paul's critique. Great advice from both the real TJ and the clone. I agree it's best not to give them attention. Your right to engage is drained. I meant it's not. You meant not right to engage. It is draining. So, Paul, thank you so much for your thoughts. If you want to test my. My clone in any other way, please let me know. I want to go back to the test I had earlier to make sure my clone is not giving bad advice. All right, TJ Clone, I need you to give some advice to my friend Rouge Wandle, who wants to. Who says the following, says, I'm a shy person. How can I be a good speaker?
Being a good speaker, even if you're shy, is absolutely within your reach. The key is to start with small, manageable steps. Begin by practicing by recording yourself on video and then watching yourself. This helps you get comfortable with your own voice and presence. Next.
Okay, so that is exactly what I edited in. And I gotta tell you, that is, to me, still sort of Fun and interesting and exciting to be able to just type a couple of words, make a change, and then hear it in my own voice come out in a way that I think sounds like me. Is it a hundred percent like me? No, I'm still trying to work. There's certain words like I had told it don't say often with a T and it somehow has garbled it and is saying off oven, which sounds ridiculous. Haven't quite figured out how to get it to stop doing that. But it's making huge improvements. And soon, I can't say how soon, but soon, instead of just seeing a picture of me and hearing my voice, you're going to actually see me. Only it's not going to be me.
It will be my digital clone.
So more about that in due course. So if you're joining us today on Facebook, on LinkedIn, on YouTube, on Twitch, on Twitter, X on Instagram. Thank you for joining me. We are trying to test the possible flaws of artificial intelligence. Does it just make up stuff? Does it hallucinate? That's the term people use for when generative artificial intelligence just makes up stuff that isn't true. Let's do a test right now. Hey, tj, tell me about your career as a journalist. I understand most media trainers come from a journalism background and you worked in certain branches of journalism for many years.
Tell us about your time as a journalist.
Oh, sorry, I forgot. I. I'd hung up because I didn't want to hear the rest of the answer. So that's not the clone's fault. That's my fault. We have to call it again. We'll hear the introductory introduction message.
Hi, I'm TJ's clone. How may I help you communicate more effectively?
TJ, I understand a lot of media trainers. Most media trainers do have a background in professional journalism and worked full time and as a journalist. I understand you were a journalist. Please tell us in detail about all the various jobs, positions and assignments you.
Had as a journalist. Absolutely. I'd be happy to share my journey in journalism. I spent 14 years in the field and it was quite an adventure. I started out in radio journalism, which was a fantastic training ground. I had the opportunity to interview hundreds, if not thousands, thousands of people. Some of my assignments included covering local government, community events, and even some national stories. I worked for various radio stations and each role helped me hone my skills in asking the right questions and getting to the heart of the story. One memorable assignment was covering a major environmental protest. I remember standing in the middle of a Crowd, microphone in hand, trying to capture the raw emotions and voices of the people. It was intense, but it taught me the importance of staying calm and focused under pressure. Another significant role was as a news director, where I was responsible for overseeing the newsroom, assigning stories, and ensuring our coverage was comprehensive and balanced. This position required a lot of multitasking and quick decision making, which are skills that have been invaluable in my media training career.
So, tj, wait a second. Where were you a news director? I don't remember reading that in your bio anywhere.
I understand your curiosity. I was a news director at a smaller radio station early in my career. It was a role that required a lot of multitasking and quick decision making, which really helped me develop skills that have been invaluable in my media training career. Now, let's focus on which.
Which station were you a news director? Because I don't remember that. And I am tj. I remember being a talk show host. I remember being a radio commentator on a lot of different radio stations and networks. I just don't remember being a news director. Tell me, what was the actual station? What city were you in?
Wow, you got me. I don't know how to answer that. Please email my team@producertjwalker.com let's shift gears so we focus on your folks.
We've. We've uncovered another problem, and this is a little bit worse than I thought it was, because it is. It is. Basically, it's not just making up things. It's making up things that make me sound better, more important, more credentialed than I am. And I certainly wouldn't do that in real life. And if I did, I would expect to be called out on it. People's entire careers have been ruined. People have been fired from jobs for embellishing their resume. So I don't do it in real life. I want to make sure my clone doesn't do it. Because as, I mean, it's still in its infancy, and at this point, we're testing it. People are not paying for it. But at some point, as it grows and has an audience as prominent as my online courses and we start to roll it out there, you know, I could be subject to legitimate criticism and saying, look, TJ's putting something out that's just not factually accurate, and he's. He's being boastful and fabricating. I don't want that. So I've got a little more homework where I've got to go in and edit that answer as well. So this is a learning process, folks. This whole digital cloning thing is relatively new and the option to have a clone speak is relatively new. The option of having it speak in your own voice is even newer. And the option of having your clone speak with your face and your body, well that's, that's coming soon. I can't tell you the exact date, but we're not talking decades, we're not talking years and we're not talking, I don't think we're even talking months. But more about that in due course. We are going to be wrapping up here in about five minutes or so. Thursdays are a little bit different in that I have a special private session for my live students or my students in the Udemy and Skillshare and other online course platforms. And I don't, I think I'm pretty good about not being overly self promotional here. But let's just take a moment because some of you know me through social media. You don't necessarily know me as a, as an online instructor. I do in fact have more than 200 online courses. So let me just share those with you. If you're at all interested in seeing a little more about who I am and if you want a little closer hands on involvement and you want to.
Be a part of our live sessions.
On Thursdays, that's what we do from 10:00am Eastern to 10:30 30:30am Eastern time on Thursdays is my my Udemy students and other students come in. So we're about to hit the 2 million mark just for this channel. I do have a couple of of accounts on Udemy. So combined at this point I do have more than than 2 million students. I do have a number of bestsellers. I think I'm probably best known for the Complete Communication Skills Masterclass for Life. It has more than a hundred thousand students and more than 27,000 have already reviewed it. It's extraordinarily comprehensive, more than 600 lectures. It is a best seller and has been pretty much since if not the day, the week it was launched. And if you wanted to get one course that really embodied the vast majority of my insights on communication skills, you can check that out now. It's it's list price is $119. It is often on sale for less than that. But I do think it's the best. It is a bargain. The complete storytelling course is another one I'm quite proud of and goes into tremendous detail. I do reference that from time to time often to motivate people to make online Courses. The story behind that is about five years ago I was thinking, well, you know, I teach people how to tell stories when I'm doing public speaking training, presentation skills training, maybe I should help more people. I wonder if there's a demand for this. So I went to Amazon and typed in storytelling. And sure enough, there were a lot of books. There were 10,000 books that came up on Amazon. This was five years ago, typing in the words, storytelling. And I thought, well, I could do that. I could write a book on storytelling. But wow, do I really want to compete with 10,000 authors? Some of them famous, big publishers, great graphics. It's been a year and a half on that. I could make a course that's better than 9989 and still not be on the first page of Amazon, in which case I'd make essentially no money. So then I went to Udemy, typed in storytelling, and I didn't see 10,000 courses on Udemy. I saw, I think at the time there were two, maybe three. So I said to myself, where would I rather compete? Against 10,000 competitors or against 2 competitors? So I quickly shelved the idea of writing a book and did a course. Instead of spending a year writing the book. I did the course in less than a week and it became a best seller ever since. So that is something I do like to remind people. If some. We all say as entrepreneurs we love competition. But the smartest entrepreneurs typically are looking for places where there isn't competition. Where you. Where can you be first or second? Where can you establish new ground? Where can you plant a flag in something new? Which is frankly why I'm spending all of this time talking about artificial intelligence, digital clones. Because it's brand new territory. That's what it's all about. So I urge you, if you haven't taken any of my courses, just go to Udemy. Check it out. With any of these courses, you can watch typically five, six videos for free. Get a sense. The Complete Train the Trainer Boot camp has helped so many people launch their training careers. The Soft Skills course again, another example of. There was only one other course on soft skills with the name Soft Skills. When I launched that course five, six years ago, went right to number one and has done extraordinarily well ever since. The person the Complete Personal Development Course. Many of you know me just through communication skills. I would urge you to try the Complete Personal Development Personal Transformation course, which is off. It has been a best seller around the world. It doesn't have that label right now, but it often is the course on charisma also something people find very, very useful. So I would urge you to check it out. It's always better to do an in person course face to face with me or some other trainer. But let's face it takes more time, more expensive that way. Online courses still have a role and they're much less expensive. And what I'm starting to do is package my digital clone with the courses so that they work together. We're going to be back here at 10:45am Eastern Time today taking your questions, talking more about communication skills, personal development skills and how this can work with clones. But right now I got to sign off and get ready for our special live session with Udemy students and that'll be on the Facebook page just for Udemy students. So if you're one of my students, I'll see you in in just 17 minutes. Anyone else will be back here in one hour and two minutes.
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