TJ Walker Live Workshop

Hello and welcome. I'm TJ Walker. Thanks for joining me today. We are live and this is a time for you to ask questions about public speaking, communication skills, one on one communication, speaking to the media. Whatever the issue is for you when it comes to communication, I'm here for you as a resource. Hello to our friends on TikTok. Thanks so much for joining us live. We are still trying to figure out the. And I see Shiv has joined us. Hi, Shiv. We're still trying to figure out the best way of connecting with TikTok and with my colleagues on YouTube, Facebook and all the other social media platforms. So I'm having to broadcast from my cell phone here and my regular broadcast cameras for everyone else here. This is the microphone just for my. For my TikTok cell phone. And a regular shotgun mic is what people are hearing on YouTube now if you're joining us for the first time, this channel is all about helping you become more successful in life, your business life, your professional life and your personal life by building your communication skills and your confidence in your own communication. So that's what we're about. If you want to join me live right here on screen, you're more than welcome to. You can ask me questions. We can have a debate, although we don't debate politics here and we have a lot of fun. It's also where you can get critiques as well from how you speak if you want to post a video. And we have a friend, Irfan has joined us from TikTok. How are you today? And let me turn up the volume. So apologies to my YouTube friends and folks on Facebook and other places because we still have not integrated our TikTok community and our Streamyard community on all the other social media platforms. We hope to do that later today. So right now, Irfan is joining us from TikTok. How are you today? Can you hear me or fine? Pakistani. Pakistan. From Pakistan. Great. Good to see you. Tell us what you're doing with your communication skills these days. Where are you trying to improve? Are you able to hear me? Okay, just.

Just one minute. Just.

Okay, great. And I see Eduardo has joined us. Dayton Montel has joined us. Dale has joined us. So many good folks are joining us from around the globe on TikTok. The TikTok platform, tick tock. Getting a lot of attention here in the United States where one branch of our federal government, the the House, the United States Congress, voted to essentially ban TikTok unless. Tick tock, the parent owner, the Chinese parent owner, ByteDance, sells TikTok to a US based company. Now, apparently there's no danger of TikTok being banned or removed anytime soon, but six months from now could be a different matter. Okay, Iran, tell us what you're working on and how we can help you today. Go ahead, Irfan. Did you, did you, did you just want to say hello or did you want to talk about what you're working on these days with your own communication skills? Okay, so I might not even have my microphone. Okay, great. Well, we're very happy. We have a. We have a huge community here. People around the world where English is not their first language. So do not feel in any way left out. What I have found in working with people around the globe who quite often are not sure insecure about their own language skills is their vocabulary is fine. They just need to practice more and not apologize for it. We also have Rosalind. We also have Rosalind joining us. Rosalind, how are you today?

I absolutely don't accept it.

What's that? I didn't quite hear you. Let me turn up my volume here. Well, Rosalind, thanks so much for stopping by. My name is TJ Walker and in this channel we help people with communication skills every aspect of giving presentations, talking, one on one job interviews, giving speeches, talks, media interviews. So understand if you accidentally popped in and can't stay with us, but we want to thank you and invite you back anytime. Thanks so much. And we leave alive.

I'm sorry, I just bought it, so I don't know how to leave.

Well, believe it or not, this is only the second time I've used live. I don't actually know how to disconnect you, so I, I have not figured that out. And that was on my to do list from yesterday because that was the second thing. So I don't know, I mean, if you, if you just so you can.

Do your thing, it seems important.

Okay. If you want to, I guess just exit the app and then go back, we'll probably do it. Rosalind, thanks so much. And I want to say special to all of our friends joining us on YouTube, LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter and Stitch, I believe, and a few other platforms. So we're going to dive right into questions today. These are questions that you have asked me and Irfan, I'm going to let you go too. Do you mind swiping up, I don't know, swipe right to filter comments? I guess I'm getting comments. Ben, I'm going to need you. My colleague Ben is with us. I'm going to need you to tell me exactly what to do to help people exit because this is a technical glitch. Okay, so we're getting comments in. Paige has joined us. Greg Riley, Tristan Pepe, tremendous number of people. We have dozens and dozens and dozens of people who have joined us on Tick Tock this morning. So it's a fantastic community. So Ben, do you have an answer for me yet? I really need to know how to do. So let's just bring Ben on. Ben is my colleague, has worked with me for many years. Ben, good to see you today. So I just wanted anyone who want to be rude to Irfan, but I think he's. He's shared with us what he wants to. And just as a technical issue for going live, I need to know how to, you know, keep people in. But so I do need to know how to take them off because we're hearing background sounds and such.

Yes. So what you need to do, you need to click on the. On the box of the person.

What box?

Yes, where the person is appearing. The box.

Okay, so I pressed on the box where I see Irvine's face. Okay, I see that.

You see a pop up. That is a two something.

Hang on one second. Or final. My colleague Ben is giving me some tutorials on how to deal with the TikTok. Yes, Ben.

Okay, so you see an image of two person. I see an image and an X on it.

No, I'm not seeing an X on the image. I only see a flag. And I do not want to suggest that Irfan or any of our guests are doing something inappropriate or being flagged with the system. So I know I'm seeing a follow button. I see something that says a heart team at LV O but I am not seeing any sort of X whatsoever. So I see no possible way.

Okay, let me check it. I'll get back to you.

Okay, so for those of you joining us live on YouTube and those of you joining us on TikTok, we're doing a little bit of experiment today. So I am TJ Walker. I'm a communications expert. I've been broadcasting live on a lot of different platforms, but today is only the second day to broadcast on TikTok live. So I'm trying to be respectful to Irfan, but I need to take him off and I need to figure out how, once we've finished a conversation, how we can politely take people off the screen. And I don't know how to do that yet. Melvin has joined us. Melvin Fister's so good to hear from you and see from you, Melvin, if you want to join us live on our streamyard, we'd be happy to have you find out what you're up to. Okay. We have a couple of other folks joining us now. We see Chota and we see. It looks like Melville. Is that. Yeah. How are you today? I'm going to. I'm having a hard time reading on my phone, but you're appearing on the bottom right. It's. It looks like Melee. Is it? M E I L I. How are you today? Thank you. Yes, tell us. Tell us what you're up to. Yeah, it's good to see you. Where are you joining us from today? And do you have any particular communication challeng. What's that? Yeah, and we have Chota joining us as well. Okay, now let me ask you, anyone who's on the screen, Forgive me, but this is really just my second time doing a simulcast where we're on YouTube, LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, through one channel and one camera and one system. But we're also broadcasting live on TikTok and we're really happy and excited about the TikTok community. And what this channel is all about is helping people improve their communication skills. I'm seeing things that say match, invite and connect. So I'm sort of experimenting with that. But what I do need to know, if any of you know, say someone has come on, they've had a question. We've. I've answered it and. But now we're getting background sound from them and I need to take them off. I don't know how to take someone off the live feed. Is there anyone there who can help me with that? Melee, do you know how to do that? What's your name? I'm TJ Walker. Irfan is with us. It looks like Chota is with us. Yes.

Yes. Thank you. What's your name?

Okay, so now we have people joining us from the Philippines today. You know what we're going to. Here's what I'm going to have to do. So this is a part of the live experience and I could have worked all this out on my own. We've done all sorts of tests, maybe waited six months to work out the kinks. But part of what we're doing right here on this channel is taking you behind the scenes. You've seen me do this before, but metaphorically taking you behind the curtains of what it's like to try to communicate at a mass level by being a content creator. I do public speaking training, media training, communication skills training, everything from in person, one on one and group training to online courses where I've got a couple million students around the world. And then I also help people with short form videos for places like TikTok and YouTube and all the usual suspects and long form videos. And for the last month or so we've been doing live three hour broadcast simulcast on platforms around the world. So we're doing this and showing you the flaws. When I make my short form videos, when I make my TikTok videos and others, I show you exactly what I'm doing. So you see the mistakes, you see the mess ups, you see it all happening right there and why. The reason why I'm doing that is I want you to see this whole process demystified. I want you to think, well, TJ is kind of messing up. He has a stammer, occasionally he has to redo it. If he doesn't have to be perfect, I don't either. So I want to empower you and give you a sense of exactly how you can do this as well. Now, we don't all have to broadcast three hours a day and post a gazillion videos a day. Maybe for you it's one video a month. Maybe for you it's 30 seconds a month. It's up to you. But I do want to give you the tools and sort of show you, walk you through step by step how it can be done. Ben, do we. So, Ben, what I've done, my colleague Ben is with us. Ben, what I've done is I've simply turned off the volume because we were getting so many people joining us from TikTok. That's not a workable way of doing it. What we're trying to do for our second session today live is figuring out how to integrate TikTok with our Streamyard system using another system called OBS, which I believe is for open broadcast system. So we're going to figure that out. My apologies to our friends and colleagues joining us for the first time from TikTok. I'm still new at live streaming on TikTok, so I've not figured out how to do these live streams. So. So right now I have the volume off, so apologies, if you are speaking, I can't hear you. So I do want to apologize. I have to figure out basically how to have one person on at a time and how we can have a dialogue conversation in a smoother way. But I haven't figured that out yet. So we're going to try to figure that out in the next break. So, Melvin, a special Invitation to you. It would be great to talk to you live. Ben has. My colleague Ben, under my name has posted the Streamyard link. If you click that link, you can appear right on camera. Ben, do we have any update on how. More of how Twitter. Excuse me, more of how TikTok works?

Yes, the research I just did now, it shows there should be a guest on your hub. So if you can have a tab where you have a guest, then you see two head, like a group of people to just.

Right now I see a couple of faces. Irfan has joined us and everyone, I have to say is everyone's being completely polite. There's always the school of thought of, oh, you got to really be careful. People are going to do all sorts of horrible things and we've had nothing but positive experiences anytime I've gone live on any social media platform. But still. So what do I act? You know what? Let's make this a real learning experience. Okay, so. Whoops. I just. So, Ben, I'm showing you my phone with my TikTok screen. What are you suggesting? I. I've got to get out of the screen, otherwise I'll mess up the autofocus. What are you telling me I should literally.

I'd like you to click on the face. On the face of one of the.

So I've done that. This is what pops up. You had mentioned there was an X. I saw no X. I have touched everything on there. I've touched the. The flag on the right. But that's alerting TikTok that he has done something inappropriate or against the rules and he hasn't done anything inappropriate. So I don't want to get anyone in trouble or appear rude. Those of you just joining us on YouTube, Facebook or LinkedIn, we're doing multiple live streams and we're learning as we go how to do the connections, how to moderate conversations. So what are you seeing that I should do, Ben?

Actually, I'm not getting the response I searched online. This is not what I was given.

Okay.

So actually I meant to see a group.

I'm gonna put this back.

Okay.

And so for our friends joining us on Tick Tock, want to say hello. Thank you so much for joining us today. We do, we do really appreciate you stopping by and we're sort of learning on your time. I do apologize for that. But this is only the second time I have broadcast doing live streams on TikTok and I just don't know how to do the maneuvering of taking people on, muting people, bringing people off. So we can have a conversation. But I'm extremely happy to see that so many of you have stopped by to say hello. And I see a lot of folks and it looks like the NYC and I can't see the rest have joined us. I apologize, but I've had to turn the volume off because I cannot hear when eight people are talking at a time. We're also simulcasting today on my YouTube channel. If you want to talk to me, I'm happy to talk to you, but it would have to be through our regular Streamyard connection. And you can, you can basically reach me on any platform using Streamyard. So if you go to YouTube.com the TJ Walker, excuse me, TJ Walker Success Channel, that's where you can find me. We've posted a link to joining me live on streamyard and I see here some of you are talking. I apologize, I do not in any way want to be rude, but I've had to turn the volume down because we had eight people talking at once and I have simply not learned the moderation function yet for TikTok Live. So we're hoping to come back today for a second session probably around 10:45am Eastern time. I'm hoping we get that part set and straight because, and I apologize, I do see that the woman in the car is talking but I can't hear you at all because we had to turn the volume down. I haven't figured out how to moderate people's audio. So you know what? Let me try one thing. I do see a button where it looks like I can turn some people's audio off. And let me see if I've gotten it down to one. Now I hear you. Yes.

Much followers just from like my posts and stuff and like interacting. But that's how I came on here because I was like, let's try this.

Okay, now I'm hearing you. My name is tj. My name is TJ Walker and I see, I see the woman on in the car that says that NYC can you hear me all right.

Yeah, I like, I like being in the car with this because they've got a built in system.

Okay, great. And what is it you do that involves speaking and communication? Because yeah, that's what this whole channel is about.

My kids also are particularly bad at eating and sleeping like they are. So.

Okay, so I think we're actually in a couple of different conversations. So again, this is a, this is, this is a work in progress. What?

Ben, are you seeing any X button?

I see absolutely zero X buttons on my TikTok page on my, on my phone right now.

That's what I saw. I was told you should seal X button next to the guest.

There is. I see a plus button. When I hit this plus button, nothing really happens other than the plus button disappears. So we're going to have to work on that. And Ben, my colleague who's worked with me for many years, helps me with behind the scenes with so many things, is going to try to help me figure out how we can bring our TikTok community into our Streamyard community so we can all be sort of at. At the same place. So we're working out the kinks right there. But I do want to say a special hello to folks joining us for the first time on TikTok. If you are looking for more information on how to be a better communicator, please check out the videos right here on my TikTok account or my YouTube page. And that's really the best place to get more information. Free information tutorials on how to communicate effectively. So again, a special invitation to Melvin if you want to join us. Hugo, thanks so much for you stopping by to say hello. We have another colleague from the Philippines who's joined us. We can't see your name because you haven't signed into to Streamyard yet. But if you would like to join us, you would appear by audio or video or both, you can do that. You can come right into our green room, our green room here on streamyard with a click of a button. But we're also happy for you just to listen, watch, participate, post your questions, post your comments right here. So in just a moment I'm going to do a demonstration where I don't talk about how to create YouTube shorts. I'm actually going to make them right in front of you. You're going to see kind of the rough draft. If you see anything you like, let me know. If you see something that doesn't make sense, let me know. Your feedback is very much appreciated and very. And I just realized I forgot to put my hard drive in for saving these in the higher quality. So I have to step away for just one moment. Apologies for that. And seems like I did this earlier this week as well. You may detect the audio getting weak. That's because I have a shotgun microphone that's just out of camera. So if I walk around as I am now, it's getting further away. So I'm plugging this disk, this sand disk into my mixer and that way we can capture the audio at the highest quality. I guess I will in fact leave this microphone on so our friends on TikTok can hear. And it is again, it's nice to see. Just appears to be hundreds of people joining us on TikTok today. So thank you so much. We're still working at the Kinks, so apologies, I don't have my audio on. I cannot hear you. So I apologize for that. But we're going to work out the kinks for this so that you can be participating and be a part of the conversation. So that's really what we're about here at the T.J. walker Success Channel. It's a conversation designed to help more and more people get better at their communication skills. Whether it's talking to one person, going on a job interview where there's one person talking to you, giving a presentation to larger groups of people, speaking on a stage to a thousand people, or speaking to the news media, it's really about helping you get better and build confidence with every aspect of communication. Now today is a little bit different in that we have to take a break. At the top of the hour, I'll be doing a special live session for my Udemy students. If you're not familiar with Udemy, it's an online course platform, video based courses where people can sign up, take a course on demand on virtually any subject in the world. It is the most popular online course platform in the world. They have more students than anyone else to my knowledge. And I'm on about 100 different platforms, but it is the dominant one. It has essentially become to online video based courses what Amazon has become to books. And yeah, there are other places you can buy books. You can buy books on Barnes and noble.com and walmart.com but the vast, vast majority of books sold online are sold on Amazon. And it's getting to the point where it's almost like that with video based courses where Udemy is so dominant. So if you're interested in any of my courses, there's a link in my description on my YouTube page and on my TikTok page and basically all my pages. If you want to see more about my online courses on Udemy, you can always go to tjwalker.com and find out more there as well. Okay, I'm going to hop right into some questions. Sometimes the questions are emailed in from you, sometimes you post them right there. Sometimes the questions are generated by artificial intelligence using chat, GPT and other sources to aggregate sentiment around the world. So I am going to do these in some short form and long form ways right now that will be used by my editing team to polish them up and put them together so they can be pushed out on social media and people can watch them anytime they want. Because not everyone, believe it or not, wants to come to a three hour live show. But there are plenty of people who first thing in the morning or last thing at night will spend 15, 20 seconds learning something new about communication skills. So that's how I'm trying to help people in different formats. Okay, so I'm going to go to camera two. This is what I typically do for my shorts because it seems to resonate best with audiences. So the topic here is how can I project my voice without shouting? I'm going to try to get the papers out of the way. So what's the best way of projecting your voice when you're giving a presentation without shouting? Because you don't want to shout. That's annoying. But if you just use a normal voice, it may come across too soft. Think of it this way. You're at a noisy restaurant, you're with a bunch of friends, you're telling a story. You're not shouting, but you are speaking louder. Your highs are higher, your lows are lower. That's how you speak loud enough without shouting. Okay. And those of you just joining me, what I'm doing there is I'm actually running my own mixer and I am stopping and starting the recording in there. Now everything we're doing here is being recorded, but I'm recording things at a much higher quality with a feed coming in from 3 cameras at 4k quality. If I record 3 hours on 4k, it becomes enough data to fill the earth. So I'm not recording all of it in 4K. So that's what I'm doing. When you see me pushing buttons, is it the easiest thing in the world now? It takes a little getting used to. Is it the hardest thing in the world? No. I'm certainly no technical genius, but it is something anyone can learn. And I'm sharing this because I want more people to live stream and I want more people sharing their expertise with the world in a video format and a digital format. Because as much as I love to speak in front of live audiences, and I've done that for decades, it is really nice. Just like today, I've already spoken to people in the Philippines and in Pakistan and all over the globe, which would not be able to do if we had to physically go and be in the same room with each other. So that's why I'm Urging you to think about how you can do more content, create your own content, share your own expertise in the world, doing things like this live, doing recorded videos. So let's go to the next topic. And that is what is the ideal pace of speech to maintain audience engagement? Fantastic question. Get again to camera two. What's the best pace in a speech or presentation to keep engagement with the audience? Well, it's not about 160 words per minute. The main thing is you want variety. Sometimes a little faster, sometimes slower, and occasionally a pause. Okay, so that is an important one. It comes up a lot. I do think that that's a topic that does work pretty well for a short video. And I'll sometimes say a TikTok or a YouTube short. Basically every social media platform these days loves short form content. So that's one. If I'm doing it, I typically try to do it what has to be less than 60 seconds or it doesn't count as a short video on most platforms. And what I try to do is less than 30 seconds, ideally less than 20 seconds. That seems to resonate the best for sort of content that I do that people like and then tend to watch and share. Again, a special hello to our friends joining us on TikTok today. Thanks so much. This is our second day doing it with TikTok. We're trying to integrate you with our other live streams because we are live right now on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and a number of other platforms. I've not yet learned how to really do the engagement, so I apologize for the people who came on live. I couldn't hear you properly. I also couldn't figure out how to let one person talk at a time. So I have you on mute. But rest assured, I do want to hear from you. This is not just me giving a big monologue all the time. We let people share their thoughts, ask their questions, get their own presentations, critiques. In fact, if you're on TikTok now and you want to join me live, all you need to do is go to YouTube.com and we have in the, in the comments section a link to Streamyard where you can join us live. Plus we have posts we post every day in the community tab on my YouTube channel. The link for the day where you can join us live. But I do want to say hello to Nate, hello to she's in the Wind to Megan, Elizabeth and everyone else who's been nice enough to join us on TikTok. Thanks so much. Okay, we're going to be doing More production of short form videos today. How do I modulate my tone to convey different emotions or emphasis? Okay, you know these questions I'm sharing with you, I'm reading them for the very first time with you. So sometimes I'll hear a topic and I'll think, does that lend itself to a short form video or a long form video or both or neither. Sometimes I need to hear it, maybe think about it for a day. Other times it's a question that's come up many times and I feel like I already have a good response. And yet other times I'll see the question and I'll just start talking on it and think it through with you. Occasionally I might do that and say, you know what, that's no good. And I'll say to the editor, hey, just scratch that. I don't think it was good enough. But sometimes really good stuff will come up just thinking in front of you and we do it together. So I do want to thank you for your question. What happened yesterday, in fact is I did a short form video and one of you asked a follow up question, a deeper question about a specific sub niche within that topic. I did another short form video and that actually was a lot better than the first one. We'll probably use both. But that's one of the reasons why I'm doing this live. To my knowledge, every other communications expert, when they are sharing their videos on YouTube, TikTok, other social media platforms, they do everything behind the scenes. You don't see the messiness, you don't see the mistakes, you don't see the blunders. I'm showing everything here so you can see it, you see the process. And I'm hoping so that you don't get intimidated, you realize, well, if this guy can make a whole bunch of mistakes, but he can put finished product out there, so can I. That's really what I'm hoping for. Okay, let's see what we can do on this topic. How do I modulate my tone to convey different emotions or emphasis? I'm going to do this one from camera three and those of you on TikTok, you're only seeing me from one camera. But in our normal flow on all the other social media outlets, I have three different cameras here in the studio and it gives people a little, a little greater range and it's just a different experience. Okay, so about modulating tone, So how do you modulate your tone in just the right way to convey the appropriate level of emotion when you're giving a presentation A talk, a speech. Well, guess what? You already know how to do that. When you're talking to a friend one on one, your tones change. If you're talking to them at their funeral versus a popular football game or sporting event, you naturally do it. So what happens to people when they're giving a speech or presentation is they're outside of their comfort zone, so they're freezing up. So that's why you're thinking about how do I artificially do this? The secret is you need to talk more, present more and rehearse more to get to the point where you don't feel any different talking to 5, 10, 100 people as you do your best friend. That way the natural emotion will just flow. Okay, so that was a little longer than what I typically try to do for a YouTube TikTok short. We'll see what the editing team comes up with that now. They'll, they'll add some graphics and a little more pizzazz. I'm slightly out of screen here and we'll see what they come up with. You know what I can do? Even though we don't have the audio right, I can look to see if any of our friends on TikTok have asked questions because I am seeing what appears to be dozens and dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of people have joined us live on TikTok and do want to say thank you for stopping by. We're trying to, to work out the kinks, get things better. I'm seeing some of you are putting in emojis. Well, thanks a lot. I'm. I'm going to hope and assume those are, are nice comments some of you are trying to join right now. I apologize for those of you trying to join on screen on TikTok, but I haven't figured out how to bring people on and take them off with this, the settings yet. So we're still in a learning mode there. So apologize for that. But do if you want to join us live, I'm happy to have you. I'll need you to come over to YouTube. Click the link in the comments section for Streamyard. That's how we're connecting live to today. So I do want to apologize for that. Okay, let's go to the next question and a quick program note. Typically we try to go from 9am to noon, a three hour block Monday through Friday here on this channel. Thursdays are a little bit different because I have a private live session just for my online students from the Udemy platform form and that is from 10am to 10:30am we will be back here live with everyone, and I hope with Tick Tock as well, at 10:45am today, going to noon, maybe even a little later. So we have time right now for one more short form video. So let me take a stab at that. The question is, how do I avoid speaking too quickly or too slowly? These are fantastic questions and I love questions that come from real people, but in this case, they're derived from conversations from real people. So this is what artificial intelligence has pulled from various chat rooms, comments searches around the globe. So let me go to camera two, back to camera two for this and about speaking too quickly or too slowly. How do you know when you're giving a presentation you're not speaking too quickly or too slowly? Well, the thing is you don't want to do either one. And it's not that you want to be exactly at the same moderate speed. Now, great speakers are constantly changing their speed, sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Now you'll never know this unless you take the time to rehearse on video. You've got to really hear how you sound in practice before you know your speed is just right for the real audience. Okay? So those of you wondering what I'm doing, it seems like I'm stopping in an artificial way. What I'm trying to do is we're doing two things at once. I brought you into my workshop here. It's messy. I'm essentially rolling up my sleeves and doing the dirty work here. I'm talking to you. I want to be responsive to you. But I'm also doing the work of making my YouTube shorts and TikTok shorts and long form videos for social media. And I'm showing you the rough draft. Sometimes I have to do two takes, sometimes three takes. So I'm doing different camera angles because that tends to work differently for different audiences and be better. And I'm stop, I'm pausing before I start and after I start. It's not because I forgot what to say. I'm making it easier for my editing team to know where to start and where to stop. So that's, that's what we're doing here. Right? I'm going to have to sign off now. Again, very much appreciate all of you on Twitter for joining. Excuse me, on TikTok for joining me today. We are streaming live on Twitter right now. Twitter X right now. And hello to all of you. We'll be coming back. I'm hoping to have figured out some of the kinks of working with our friends on TikTok. So I can have you join us live and everyone else who wants to join us live. The surest, easiest way to do it is to go to YouTube, type in TJ Walker Success, you'll see this channel. You go to the Community tab, you'll click the streamyard link for the day, and you can join me live right here on screen. So thanks so much, please. We'll be back in really just about an hour, hour and three minutes. So I'll see you then.