Unlocking the Future: Interactive Cloning Technology in Training

TJ Walker and Jose discuss using AI clones to scale personalized one-on-one training through iterative practice. Jose breaks down the unit economics: early adopters pay premium prices now, but costs will drop as the market matures. They reference an 88-page market study on AI avatars and pricing trends shaping the industry.
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January 30, 2025
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So what I'm so excited about with cloning technology is it gets me back to where I started in my training business, which is truly one on one style, completely interactive training that's not about me giving speeches and lectures, although I love to do that. It's about being 100% focused on helping that person transform some skill to make their life much better. So that's what I see the power of these clones doing and why I'm so excited about it. If I'm working with someone through a live zoom training, it's completely interactive. It's we hop right into them giving a speech, recording it, critique, feedback, try again. And we do that 10, 12 times in a day, whether it's media training or presentation skills training.
I think I couldn't agree more. I think your case really is around condition, right. Is really it can fully embrace what this technology can do. I think there is an aspect, you know, that we talk about all the positive we tend to not say right now. And it's something that for big corporations and individuals to adhere to, this is the financial part. Right. These technologies are not as cheap as getting a private email. Right. You know, they come with some costs and if you want to apply them into your business, you need to make sure that the unit economics work for you. So I think once it needs to be taken into consideration because it's not free, is not infinite.
Right.
You have some limitations depending on the packages that you buy. But I think this needs to be part of the equation to really take the full advantage of the potential.
Now you did in your survey, let's give a brief plug again for your survey. And I know you know someone like Barb who's watching would absolutely love to study this survey. Barb. So if you haven't gotten this, we've posted a link in the comments. This is the new it's an 88 page survey. Tremendous research that Jose conducted the AI driven avatars market study. And in this you talk about various pricing things. Now that the history of pricing and technology is always that the early adopters pay a lot. You know, I'm old enough to remember what was the name of that phone they advertised constantly in 2000, the anywhere phone. It was this giant brick and it was like $2,000 a month or something like that. And now you can basically call anyone in the world for almost nothing. Certainly if you have an old cell phone that you got for $20 in an Internet connection, you call anyone anywhere on WhatsApp for nothing. So the price always goes down. I certainly would anticipate the price going down on people's ability to create actual full fledged video clones rather than just text or audio. But in your survey, what did you find? I know that the Delphi has some kind of free program. I don't know if that's just for text, but are you seeing any any clone companies out there that are giving giving away free access to cloning capabilities or do they all have at least one free tier where they're giving you a taste?
So they and by the way I'm.
Going to show people the list of resources. Do you not remember what page list all the things all the different phone.
Companies I think it is pricing overview 64 so what I've seen TJ is that some companies, they have like a full suite of services, right? They will give you free access to a certain part. In most of the cases the digital avatars, they are not part of that plan. You would need to go into the premium to get access or to unlock it, right?
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