Transurf and Chill w/ Renée Garcia Reality Transurfing Vadim Zeland

Hello and welcome to Transurf and Chill on Transurfing TV. This is the show where I'm going to be interviewing Rene Garcia about literally every single concept in Reality Transurfing and breaking it all down for you. Really excited to be bringing the show to you all. So without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, the queen of Transurfing, Renee Garcia.

All right. All right. All right. All right.

All right. Oh, hey, Renee McConaughey.

Woo woo.

How you doing?

Yeah, I did kind of sound like Matthew McConaughey in, what was it?

Dazed and Confused.

Yeah.

Yeah. All right. All right.

All right. Hey, you know, he, um, that was his first acting job ever.

Really?

Or like his first big— his first main role in like a movie. He was a total no-name. He was, he was a total no-name, um, when a friend of his said— or I think he even said, well, let me, let me play this role on this movie, and they, and they said yes and they let him do it. And I mean Isn't that amazing how iconic of a role that is now? Like, we all remember that role.

That's so funny. Yeah, and I love Richard Linklater too. Like, the guy that directed that is phenomenal. Like, I love his stuff. He did Boyhood, that one movie that was like— they took him like, I don't know how many years, 15 or 18 years to make it because they use the same characters over all that time. Nobody died somehow. And then he also did Waking Life, which is that lucid dream movie. Where they animate on top. Yeah, he's done some crazy— all his stuff is so much different. Because Dazed and Confused is such a fun, sort of just campy '70s rock and roll movie. And then all that other stuff that he's done is completely different.

There we go. Have you ever seen that movie—

oh, shoot.

What's the name of it? It's an Israeli movie. It came out a couple years ago with Robin Wright, where it's like, half real and then half animation?

No, I haven't seen that one. That sounds cool.

Okay. Oh, you gotta watch it. It is insanity. Anyway, I'll send you the name of it. You gotta watch it. It's, you know, the cool thing about like knowing Transurfing now is like I'll watch certain movies and I can just see like all of the concepts. It's weird. It's like there's another layer of reality behind, um, the layer that we typically see, like when we're not whatever, woke or however you want to say it. Like there's this, there's this layer when you're not asking any questions, right? And then there's a layer when you're asking questions like, you know, what, what happens when I get involved with a pendulum? Like what, what can it do to my life or whatever the question is that like Transurfing can answer. And I'll be watching movies sometimes and it's like, it's like the filmmakers or the people writing the story, like, know Transurfing. They're just not saying anything about it. Do you know what I'm saying?

I do.

It's like, yeah, it's like it all— it's like, it's like, wait a second. Wow, this is incredible how this person just got like hooked up on this pendulum and it's like tearing them apart, you know? And like, I'm watching it and I'm like, okay, this person that wrote this must have read Transurfing, you know? And it's like a mystery if they have or not. It's like, do they know it? Do they not know it? Because all the stuff, all the points in the movie looks like they're making a story about like what not to do in your reality.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I can't even watch, uh, TV with my mom anymore. She gets so mad at me because I'm just like, here's what's gonna happen. And she's like, damn it, how do you know that? Like, she'll even— before she'll even watch stuff before we can watch it together, just because I'll— and, and part of that is, is Transurfing and reading, uh, you know, a bunch of other stuff. But the other part of it is writing, there's only so many things you can do.

Variations. Yeah.

Yeah. So you're kind of locked into one of those, and usually it's foreshadowed pretty obviously.

Yeah. Oh, totally. Very, very, very, very rarely is there a surprise. Um, you know what's even— you know what's even worse than that is, is when you're— this, this is what happens with me. My— so when I first started writing this manual that I created to instruct Transurfing, I, um, I practiced on my elderly grandparents giving lessons. I did like PowerPoint. I was like, okay, this is balancing forces. And I would like sit there and make them watch it. And, and it was so funny because they're like an older generation, you know, but they'd be sitting there watching it and my grandma would be like, this is really starting to make a lot of sense, you know.

Like, did the acid just take hold, Grandma?

Yeah, exactly. And, and, and, and then afterwards I would hear them like they'd be talking to each other and one of them would snap and somebody, you know, say something and the other one would respond like, "I'm not getting involved in your pendulum," you know? But what the worst is now is when my grandmother goes, "You're not acting very Transurfing." That's like something a kid would say.

That's so cute.

Or calls me out. Yeah, I mean, she calls me out all the time. I was getting worked up about something last time I was over there and she's like, "Renee, remember you're Transurfing." That's so good. And I'm like, "Grandma, I don't need this right now. I'm giving in to the Pendulum.

Back off!" Oh, that's hilarious.

Oh my God. Yeah, they're funny. So yeah, my grandma uses that one on me all the time now. "Remember you're Transurfing." I'm like, "Oh." If all my Instagram followers could see like a 20-second clip of my grandma. Is Transurfing shaming me?

Don't Transurf shame me, ma'am.

Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah, good times. Good times. Okay, so what are we talking about today?

Yeah, so we're going to go straight from this very lighthearted, bubbly conversation that we're having straight into an induced transition.

Oh no. Dun dun dun. The induced transition.

I have to cue up some music right there for sure. For sure.

Yeah, really. Some ominous. I like when I'm watching Netflix and I always have subtitles, the captions on because I'm like really hard of hearing. I'm like, what did they say? So, but I love it when it goes ominous music playing.

I love that too.

It's like, okay, I get the vibe. I get the vibe. All right. So ominous music playing, the induced transition. Wow. I guess, you know, the easiest way to describe this one is a bad mood. That affects your reality, and if you can't shake it, it transfers you to another track. And if you still can't get a hold of it, you just continue to, um, you just continue to, to decline in your tracks. I mean, I kind of view what— so when I'm, when I'm imagining my reality, I kind of imagine like a set of linear tracks in front of me, and there are maybe like 10 or 12 of them. And the higher quality my thinking is, the higher I can raise up, you know, and go elevate onto higher tracks and higher tracks. And the higher the tracks I can get on and keep myself on, you know, by positive thinking, thinking about, you know, continuously just focusing on all the positive I can find in my reality and being aware of when I'm induced transitioning myself, as I say. I can stay up on those higher tracks. But when I start to move down, I know that I'm going through this induced transition and I've gotten pretty good with it now. I have to say, like, as soon as something starts to decline, I'm like, okay, what got me? You know? And I can, I can fix it pretty quick now and get myself, you know, back upright and focusing on the positive in my environment. And just, you know, I don't want to say play with the lines because obviously you don't You don't want to play with induced transition. It's not a game. But I can go, okay, and take it very, very lightheartedly now and be like, okay, you're induced transitioning. It's time to focus on the positives, time to take action in a direction that's going to make you think positive thoughts, whatever it is. So I tend to just keep an eye on that every day. How am I feeling? Again, I've gotten pretty good with it. So my quote unquote bad moods or induced transitions will be pretty short-lived. And if they're not, if they last a while, I at least know what it is that I'm doing. If I start to feel depressed about something and maybe I have an opportunity where I can just tune out of my life for a day and watch Netflix all day, I'll just be like, okay, I'm gonna go and do an induced transition. Induced transition for the day and like hang out and just feel whatever it is I feel about this thing. But then I can bring myself out of it pretty quickly because I know exactly what it is that's transpiring and I know what I'm doing. So I feel like I have gotten a sense on how to manage, you know, the induced transition. But that's pretty advanced Transurfing. You know, induced transition is, again, it's something that you're gonna wanna like, you know, just be aware of if you start to feel— if you start to feel bad, if you start to feel like, you know, oh wow, I was doing so good. I mean, this is something that I heard a lot when I started doing— well, I still hear it, but when I was really doing Transurfing instruction a lot, I would hear from people all the time like, I was doing so good. I found Transurfing and I was feeling so light and everything was going so well and like my reality was looking all bubbly and I was on the pink cloud and blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden Um, I don't know, I just kind of went back to my old, like, mindset, you know? And there's, there's a gap there of, like, what happened, right? People still haven't, like, connected what, how, why, why that transpired, right? And I'm like, okay, well, you had an induced transition, clearly, you know? It's like a diagnosis, almost like a, like a, like a psychological diagnosis. You've had an induced transition. Your, your thought quality decreased. Um, therefore you highlighted a different sector of reality that didn't look as good or as promising or as fun or as, you know, filled with an opportunity or whatever it is. And you, you highlighted a different sector of reality. And if you don't figure out what it is you are doing quickly, um, you'll continue to decline and then you're just kind of fucked. I mean, it's, it's really not that difficult if you're, in a bad place, you're in an induced transition. If you're in a good place, your thought quality is, you know, is higher, and you're highlighting a different sector of reality that is in tune with your thought quality, and things look better, you know. So we'll go into a little bit like how to deal with the induced transition, um, and, you know, uh, you know, I love to talk about, uh, the generational shift. It's one of my favorite subtopics of the induced transition, and that's people that, you know, over time when they get older, they just think like the world's going to hell, you know? Oh my God, the world's going to hell! And oh, politics have gotten so bad! And oh, we're, we're on the worst state we've ever been in! And you know, I mean, this is a very common, um, there's a common echo of this mentality, um, going through the U.S. right now. I mean, I know it's worldwide as well, but, um, how many older people do you know that that talk like this is the worst of days.

So many. My grandparents were like such a good example of that. I adored them. They were fantastic. But they looked— they watched the news every single night at like 5:30 or whatever. And oh my God, you know, and we'd watch the movies would come on. People never talked like that. People don't talk like that, you know. That might be true. I don't know. I mean, shit, what do I know? I'm 7 or 8 years old at the time, so I can't argue with them. But, um, but yeah, exactly. Yeah, I see that. I've seen that a lot. Um, you know, just— and, and I think that— I think it's just like any other sort of pattern, like the Wheel of Fortune, you know. You get into something and you establish that pattern, it's just easier and easier to stay there and to stay negative. And, you know, one thing just makes another thing fall down. It's like a house of cards at that point, you know. Like, you just have— yeah, you get that negative attitude and, and everything becomes negative. And I've been there. I've been super depressed in my 20s and even you know, even, you know, 7 or 8 years ago where it seemed like things were going bad and, uh, or like 1 or 2 bad things would happen and I could just see myself. And this is funny because now that I think about it, now that we're talking about it, I haven't done this in so long. I've been really, really resilient. Um, but a lot of times when I would get upset about something, it would just completely turn my attitude toward every other thing in my life, even if things were going good, you know, overall. It would just be like 1 bad thing would happen, like I don't know, something stupid too, like a bill, you know, or something. I'm like, I never have any money, and I just start, you know, just going crazy, just losing it, you know, about all this other stuff. This is a waste of time, that's a waste of time, and just completely turn negative about everything in my life. And yeah, you know, if I could have been rational for just a moment and been like, well, this sucks, sure, yeah, I admit that, but like everything else, this is going good, this is going good, so no reason to spin out about this. But, uh, yeah, it's so funny. I haven't done that in quite a while, so that's good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, I know. I mean, it's, it's, it's like an illness. Um, it's like you get sick with something and, um, if you don't get medicine, you know, it just spreads like a rash or something, you know. I mean, it really— I used to do the same thing and I You know, I, I think what happened to me, you know, I, I've been pretty candid about, um, some parts of my life, um, you know, in, in Los Angeles before I left. Um, I had a great, um, I had a great life. I had a very fascinating, interesting life with lots of cool stuff and, um, you know, experiences that a lot of people don't get. And, um, just, I mean, there were certain aspects of it were extremely magical, but my attitude just fucking sucked, you know? And I was so quick to dwell on the negative. I think in one of our previous talks I talked about, you know, I had this beautiful, like, 42-foot sailboat in Marina del Rey. And Marina del Rey is awesome. The weather is always like 75 and perfect and it's beautiful. And I would be, you know, I'm in this like amazing lifestyle, and I'm sitting on the deck of my boat crying over some bullshit, you know, like I can't even remember now what it was. But I did not highlight the sector of reality that was prevalent in my life, which was, you know, opportunity and cool, cool, cool stuff all around me. I, I focused on scarcity, what I didn't have. If somebody said something to me that was off, or if I got an attitude from somebody because I was kind of an unlikable person, I guess you could say. I mean, I had a great life. I knew that my life was cool and I wasn't— I wasn't, you know, I was not humble about that at all, you know. And, and I would project this thing out into the world. And if somebody responded to me in a way that kind of, you know, burst my bubble, induced transition. I would go into a depression, you know, over what somebody thought about me or how somebody responded to me. And I look back on that and I'm like, my God, you know, like, what were you doing? You know, what were you doing? And I feel like the reason that I understand Transurfing so well at this point is because I fucked up so badly in the past. Like, I saw the worst in myself at times, you know, the absolute worst in myself at times. Like, letting somebody's opinion of me put me into an induced transition. Then I, you know, highlight everything negative in my reality, and that could last for months. I mean, how pathetic is that? And I know this is an extreme example, but But, you know, people are doing this. You know, I see people in my reality now that I can tell they're focusing on the negative. And when you do that, then like all sorts of other crap follows, right? Like then you spiral and then like the people in your life don't want to hang out with you anymore.

Exactly right.

You know, it puts strain on your relationships. Relationships, then the strain on your relationships causes you to feel like something, and then that's something, and it just, like you said, it's like a spin-out or a spiral or like a house of cards falling or domino effect, you know? So when you notice that you're not feeling well, you need to treat yourself, you know? You need to provide yourself with medical medicine, you know, with care, with self-care, with some sort of assistance to get yourself out of it. Because the generational shift, you know, the older people of our generation now, you know, saying that things are really bad and they're the worst and people didn't talk like that when we were growing up and so on and so forth, that all that is, is an induced transition that has lasted a lifetime. You know, it's somebody that has not come out of it and they just continue to focus on the negative and life has become dull and colorless and scary and not hospitable and not a place of warmth and opportunity and love and so on and so forth. So it just kind of like continues to decline and can continue continues to decline. And I think that what happens is the machine in the human being wants to— because I don't think it's happening consciously— the machine in the human being wants to come up with a reason why they feel like shit. So then it's easy to just go, "The world's going to hell." You know? It's like total outward. Oh, that has nothing to do with you, right? That has nothing to do with you, you know. I mean, that's, that's really what they're telling themselves. This is the world, you know. And my grandparents are guilty of the same stuff. Um, it's, it's, it, it is extremely common. Um, and it's funny because if the world were the same for everyone after several generations, right, life would be a nightmare for, like, everybody, right? We wouldn't— like, there's a flow to life. You're born, you have— and this is really like, you could draw a timeline of the human life, and you could apply Transurfing concepts along the way, and like, just pretty much spell it out, and that's how most people live. So, you're born into this world, you have nothing on you. New, right? You have no pendulums, your energy is neutral, right? So, then you kind of go into the world, let's say you're 4, 5, 6 years old, the world hasn't disappointed you yet because you haven't created any importance. So, you haven't invited in any, you haven't created excess potential, you haven't invited in balancing forces, right? So, the world looks grand, right? You feel like there's, as you go through, let's say elementary school you're like, "I'm gonna be an astronaut," or, "I'm gonna be a doctor." Nobody's told you yet, "You can't do that," or, "That's not for you," or, you know, the world is your oyster when you're young. You don't have any importance, there's no Excess Potential, there's no balancing forces, you're not in an induced transition because Pendulums can't really affect your energy yet. And then you move forward and let's say you're a teenager and then you start to experience like pendulums, right? Junior high, high school, you know? And that was my problem. I was a total outcast for a number of reasons. One, I was like, you know, the poor kid, and that hung over my head. I was like, I was the kid walking around with a little rainy cloud over their head. And people call that out, you know, I didn't— in their own way, you know, I didn't, I didn't have a lot of friends. So that was kind of of like my beginning of an induced transition that even though I managed to understand the value of action, right, and Outer Intention, and I could excel in certain areas of my life, I still had this cloud over me, like, "Oh, nobody's gonna love me," or, "Nobody likes me," or something like that, or, you know, "Oh, I'm different," or, "I'm this," or, "I'm that." That kind of stayed with me for a long time, and it sort of bled out into other areas of my life that then caused me to see, you know, a highlighted sector of my reality that was messed up from some very normal, typical things that people go through. When they're young, and they don't understand what's happening to them, right? And so, so, so that's kind of the key when it comes to like developing awareness, right, is understanding and giving yourself forgiveness for not knowing what the deal was when you were young. You let some things attach themselves to you, you tried your best to go through life doing the best you could with this stuff attached attached. And then, if you're lucky, like you are and like I am, you get something like Transurfing that's like, "Okay, here's a new tool chest that's gonna get some of this stuff off you, and you can live a different way." Right? And that's all that's really happened to me, is I had a life where stuff was on me that I couldn't seem to get off. You know, weird ideas that I had about myself or my reality that was not serving me. And then I found Transurfing, and I could see with clarity, you know, what was, was happening and what had happened. And it's not that I've totally eradicated everything from my past off of me, but now when I do something, like I had thing with my boyfriend the other day and I was demanding something of him. I was like, I want you to do this for me. And he was like, whoa, what do you say? You know? And I'm like, oh wow, this is, this is coming from this place. Like, I knew specifically what pendulum had gotten me when I was younger, where I had created some importance about something and it was reverberating through, you know, through the years. And it comes out in this current version of myself and explodes onto some innocent person that has no idea what the fuck's going on. Fair enough.

Yeah, I mean, it's— yeah, that's just being human. That's part of it. And that's, I think, one of the things that we need to have self-compassion like you were talking about earlier. It's like, okay, I'm just having a moment right now. That's okay. And definitely making sure that we don't let it go past whatever it is that we're, you know, upset about, uh, or, you know, like let it fall, like let that waterfall happen or that house of cards or that domino effect happen so that you, you know, that attitude gets carried on to other aspects of your life that you're actually really happy with. You're just in a bad mood right now, which is okay, you know, like that's very human.

But just being like, as long as you don't allow it to push you into an induced transition, you know.

Yeah, bleed over to everything else, which is what I used to always do, and which is why that kept, like, which is why I could never make any progress, right? Like, I would start to make progress and then something bad would happen and I would snap, and then I would be upset about everything, and then every— and then none of those things were giving— were rewarding me anymore. Those would have been maybe pendulums that lifted me up, but instead I got upset about it and I didn't allow that, that to happen, you know, because of my attitude about it. And then it took— it took Transurfing for me to realize that. But I didn't even know that I was— I honestly didn't even know that I had changed that behavior. Like, I just got done eating fro-yo too, by the way. Like, a big bucket of coconut and like, oh man. Oh yeah, so good. That always cheers me right up, you know?

Like, yeah, go get like a— go get like one of the big things of fro-yo and just punch it in the throat.

Judo chop that bitch.

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, there are a lot of different ways. There are a lot of different ways that the induced transition can affect you. You can do it to yourself now. You can have something from the past that comes up, you know, and like, there is a weird— the way that I like to imagine it is like this. This. There, there are different layers. I mean, obviously there are different layers of reality, right? They're, they're like— imagine your reality is a sandwich, okay? And there's different, there's different layers there. Um, you can, you can tune in to one of those layers via something that happens in your current reality, um, and it, and it connects you with something from your past, or, um, you formulate new ideas about something being wrong with something else. Or, I mean, really, the, the, the bottom line of the whole thing is, uh, it all has to do with applying excessive importance to some idea that you feel is necessary to be a certain way in your reality. Is this making sense? Absolutely. Yeah. So importance is a very— it's, it's a very, very simple concept. It's also a very complex concept, because if you experience an induced transition, I promise you, when— if you stop yourself and you go back and you retrace your steps and you go back to where it started, I guarantee you it starts with a Pendulum and Importance, you know. And if you can pay attention to your Importance level, right? The induced transition. Like, let's take the elderly, for example, that are doing the generational shift thing. They unconsciously have deemed it important that reality stay fixed, right? And they want to see things the way that they did when they were a kid. Right? But as Reality Transurfing teaches us, you know, you always get that thing that you don't want. Right? So, there's importance on a complex level, there's importance going on there. There's some sort of entitlement, like, "Well, this is the way that it was when I was a kid, and this is the way that it's always gotta be, and if it's not this way, I'm gonna be pissed." Right? "And I'm gonna be upset, and I'm gonna be grumpy, and I'm gonna say the world's going to hell, and be upset when I watch the news." And there— There is a sense of outer importance there, you know, importance with your environment sort of conforming to your standards. And then there's also an inner importance there. My grandfather says now a lot, he goes, "You know, I just really can't believe that we're gonna be leaving this world in such poor shape." You know? It's like, you know, I love my grandfather, but it's like, who the hell are you? You're not leaving this to anyone, right? You're not— the world is not some legacy that you created that you're leaving when you're gone, right? And all you're doing is just creating some version of reality in your mind. That doesn't mean that everybody else is going to agree with you. I absolutely don't agree with him. I see things very, very differently. But he thinks that, you know, there's a lot of importance there that they wanted to leave the world the same as when they saw it, how they saw it when they were kids. And it's just like, okay, well, if you actually want that, you could do that if you wanted to, right? I mean, that's how I plan to go out. I'm not going to go out saying the world never delivered me anything and it's a horrible hostile place and it's so sad. I mean, I'm going to go out saying, wow, that was pretty amazing. That was a pretty amazing ride and it was rocky at times and scary at times and fun at times and this and that and all the different aspects of it, but I'm definitely not going to allow my view of reality to, you know, degrade over time to the point where I feel like, you know, none of it was for anything and it all sucks and, you know, it's really sad. But that can happen. You know, that can happen if you're not careful. That's kind of like worst-case scenario, right? You become middle-aged and then on to your later years in life and like Vadim says, you know, life looks dull and tired, and there's no opportunity. But he also says that Transurfing can return you to a place where, you know, dreams are more attainable, and music sounds better, and colors are richer, and life more vivid, and first impressions, you know, like you can go back. Transurfing gives you— a choice, right? So what I would suggest to everybody that listens to this is take a snapshot, a mental snapshot of your reality every day, and ask yourself, like, what are you— are you going to those higher tracks, or you— do you feel like you're, um, you know, do you feel like you're on some of those lower ones, or you're declining? And I'm sure that a lot of people are going to be on higher tracks. Because Transurfing does attract people that, you know, kind of get this stuff, and they've managed to find themselves in better circumstances and better thought quality and all that. But to really, you know, ask yourself throughout the day, like, "How am I feeling?" And if something's off, right, figure out what set you off. Figure out where you encountered some Pendulum, or you created some Importance, and it put you into a place where you're not functioning at your optimal level, because, you know, there's room to go up and there's also room to go down, and you definitely don't wanna continue, you know, continue down. When I do the Transurfing instruction with people, you know, usually I do it over Zoom, and a lot of times, I've had a couple of people that really surprised me, like, I would leave them and they'd be so positive, you know, like, "Oh yeah, this is great!" I'm totally getting this stuff, I'm so excited. They'd be super happy and jazzed, and then the next week their image would pop up on Zoom and it was like a different person. And it was like, oh well, um, you know, this happened and that happened, and it was like they had reverted. Actually, I had this one guy, and holy fuck, like, he, you know, he, he was, he was a successful guy. Um, I won't give any details because he was very successful and well-known. And there were days where I thought maybe he was possibly like manic or something because he would be so excited about, "Oh, I think I hit the Wave of Fortune," and so on and so forth. And he'd be so happy and really highlighting a sector of reality. That was like, you know, good for him. And then he would dial in the next week and it was like, whoa, what happened to you? You know? And he at first was not willing to accept that it was something that he did, you know, that it was his, that he was accountable for it. It was so-and-so did this or this thing happened at work or, you know, something. And I was just like, dude, this is what Transurfing is about. It's you.

You.

It's not the thing, you know? It's your poor management of dealing with the thing, you know? And that's the hard part, I think, for people to accept, you know? Because it's so easy— it's so easy to put blame on your environment, you know? But ultimately, um, what it boils down to is that you have a choice, you know?

Yeah, that's the thing I think that's, that's tricky about this is, you know, I can see how the generational shift happens. It makes sense. Uh, it's, it's natural to get more negative over time, right? Like your body's starting to lessen. People view it that way. Oh, I'm getting old, my back, and all this kind of stuff. And it's like, dude, when I was in high school, I had such a hard time. Like, I wound up like getting into Jesus when I was like 17, and then everybody made fun of me for that. They printed my name— my name's Owen Hunt, right? They printed my name Owen cunt in the yearbook. Oh no, in the yearbook. And so everyone would just call me that. And so like, I was— yeah, I was ripped on, dude. I mean, I was like torn to shreds. Yeah, you know, from that place. And like my quote-unquote friends would all, you know, make fun of me. And you know, your friend of me play basketball. Yeah, we played basketball and stuff, and I never made the basketball team. And finally just got upset and, you know, started hanging out with the bad kids or whatever. But I mean, it's And it really, you know, but ultimately, like, what that did was make me really tough, right? So like, I have no issue if somebody has something clever to say to me. I'm usually pretty good with comebacks too.

Yeah.

But, you know, if I need to be. But also, like, you know, you could take that and then make that become this thing in your mind.

That's exactly what I was saying earlier. It's like, it's like it, you crystallize it. Mm-hmm.

So it seems totally natural to kind of go that direction, and then over time it's the world keeps putting a beating on you and keeps, you know, more burdens. And then, you know, you get married and, and, you know, that person's fault obviously, right, for ruining the marriage. And then that goes down south and, and, you know, on and on and on and on, and you don't see yourself at all at the cause. You see yourself as a victim. Victim, and, uh, you, you know, you have to be able to figure out how to put yourself in a position of power over that stuff. Like, if you, if you don't let it affect you, then it doesn't affect you. And I mean, I know that's easier said than done, but like, at the same time, like, you can't just cop out and be like, this happened to me. Yeah, you know, like, things do happen to you, and that's part of life, right? Like, train wrecks are gonna happen. That's just life, you know. People get shit happens. That's fine. Leave it for what it is, right? Don't blame yourself for that either. I'm not saying that, but like, you know, it's like, look, here, here's this crazy thing that happened. Okay, it happened. Accept it and then move forward instead. And but it's counterintuitive as hell though, because like every— it's so natural to go down that negative, uh, okay, everyone does it. Yes, like most people around us are doing that. Absolutely.

Absolutely. And I think, I think we actually touched on this on one of our previous podcasts. And, you know, the theory in Transurfing— well, I mean, it's, it's really not a theory, it's, it's, it's kind of the truth— is that, you know, throughout human evolution, right, we were not in a position when it was— when our fight-or-flight Fight was the thing that kept us alive, right? When it was how great we went into fight or flight was the deciding factor on like, you know, survival of the fittest, right? We had to have a stress response and an ability to see threats in our environment in order to live, to keep living as an individual, as a human being, or you were going to get eaten or torn apart or step on something that was going to give you an infection and you die within days, or who knows what else, right? You had to— you had to walk around as a prehistoric person and be hyper, hyper aware of dangers or things that were going to harm you or things that would get you into trouble. That, I think, in an evolution sense, it wired our brains, our synapses, all the things that happen inside of our mind when cortisol and, you know, all these different stress hormones get going and all this stuff. Our brains want to do that.

Mm-hmm.

Are not, and why would they be, geared in the other direction to when something good happens, you know, our brain goes, oh, that's great, and I really like that feeling, and I'm just gonna stay on that for, you know, like, like, it doesn't, it doesn't work like that. And I had a friend a number of years ago before I found Transurfing He'd say to me, relish in your successes because as you go through life, you will hear everybody tell you about the shit that's fucked up in their life, right? Oh, I had a fucked up childhood. No, I was in a bad marriage. And I mean, God, I did it for years, you know, focusing on the negative. But you rarely hear people go, oh, and then this really good thing happened to me. And then after that, this other amazing thing happened to me. And then when I was 16, this really awesome thing happened to me. Oh, and when I was in high school, you know, like nobody talks about their past like that. You know, nobody, nobody. If you ask someone to tell you their life story, I guarantee you it's going to be like maybe not. Well, I would say majority bad, right? It's going to be like, well, you know, my parents fought a lot when I was young, and, you know, we didn't— I mean, that was the story I told myself for years, right? Like, "Oh, I'm poor, and I grew up poor, and I, you know, didn't have any this, and then, oh, and then that," and blah, blah, blah. But, you know, with the help of Transurfing, I've actually rewritten the story quite a bit, where now it's told in a very, very different way, because I'm highlighting a different, part of what happened, you know, I'm choosing to focus on other facts. But getting back to the thing with the evolution, what happened to us throughout time, it's just, it's so much easier to connect with the negative, right? And what Vadim is proposing here is that we start to try to connect with the positive a little bit more, you know. Do not let negative information into your layer of reality, or try not to, you know. Just don't do it. Like, and, and it can be done. It can be done. And you can start to rewire your brain, you know. I don't know if you're into like all that like neural pathways and all that kind of stuff. But I've actually experienced that myself where my brain will just easily go in one direction when I continuously don't try to stop it from doing that thing. But if you attempt to do this, it will not want to go in that direction as easily. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I mean, I'm just getting flashback after flashback from Tufti or Tafti or however the hell it's pronounced.

Yeah.

That's just it. And I think the difference I've seen, and this is something that, like I said, until right now we're talking, I don't even realize that I haven't done this in probably 2 years where I used to, one bad quote unquote thing would happen and it would literally affect everything. My attitude about everything would shift. And I think it's fine and natural to be like, "Oh man, shit, that didn't go like I thought it would." And yeah, but then Tufti says, okay, good. Like, it's good that it didn't go the way you thought it would. That's actually going to bring you to the thing closer— advantage— and figure out what the advantage is in that. And then I'm like flashing back a little bit, and that's a habit. So the neuro-linguistic programming, that's just a habit. That's just you making a habit out of that thing.

So you're carving out that neural pathway in your head.

Exactly.

Yes.

Over and over again. And then it becomes just automatic. Boom. Just like that. And then like the movie Apocalypto too also flashed into in my head. Yeah, it was like the beginning of it. He's like, just don't let that shit in. Just don't let in the negative stuff. Focus on the positive stuff.

Yeah.

You know, you don't have to be a cheese dick about it either, running around like, oh well, you know. Yeah, like, yeah, fuck you, Malachi. I don't know.

Yeah, totally.

Yeah, don't be that person. You're, you're so annoying and nobody likes you. And yeah, I mean, but at the same time, you can find the advantage in it. Like you said, a couple of episodes because like highlight that sector, what, you know, and focus on that without being like obnoxious or annoying about it. You know, it's like, okay, this didn't go the way I thought it would.

Cool.

So we'll figure out how this is going to work to our advantage. And there is a simple solution to this complicated problem.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, when, when, when I kind of look at Transurfing, the Transurfing knowledge as a whole, I see that there's— you know, you use the Transurfing knowledge as a whole, as a filter to see my reality through. I kinda have like this dual landscape. There is either the side where Pendulums are getting me, I have Importance, Excess Potential, Balancing Forces are coming in, I'm in an Induced Transition, all the sort of negative parts of Transurfing. And then there's the other side, where I'm on the Wave of Success, right? I'm managing my Pendulums, I'm dropping Importance. Goals and doors are much, much easier to see when you are not in an Induced Transition, right? You cannot— I don't care what anybody says, people that are successful, that are finding their goals in life and walking through their own doors and getting the things that they intend to have or create for themselves in this world, they are not in an induced transition. They are focusing on this other side of Transurfing, you know, the Wave of Success, higher life tracks, not letting negative information into their, into their reality. The same friend that I was just referring to earlier that would say, focus on your successes. You know, when you tell your story, talk about your successes. Don't talk about— don't tell the story of like talking about all the messed up stuff. He also did another thing which really fascinated me at the time. I didn't understand what he was doing, but anytime people would start to gossip or there was a problem or there was some sort of drama, he would just completely tune tune out, you know, just completely tune out of it. And I noticed it a number of times, and I was like, oh, that's so weird. Like, why? Like, first of all, why does he do that? And what is it? I didn't quite understand what was going on, right? But now I understand, right? He was not letting negative information into his layer of reality. He was not letting an induced transition happen. You know, he was focusing on the positive, whatever it was, even if he had to go to a distant place in his mind and just tune out the conversation. That's what you do, you know. So induced transition really is about, you know, managing your environment, like learning when you just need to tune out or walk away or drop importance. Again, importance is paramount in managing this phenomenon, induced transition. And the other thing that I tell people a lot when they're, you know, when I go over this lesson with them is I say, pay attention to the other people in your life. You know, I notice now, like when I go for a walk with my dad in the morning, and he's not in the same mood he was the day before. And I'll say, hey, what'd you do? What'd you do last night? You know? Or what'd you do this morning? And I'll try to pinpoint, because I know he is in an induced transition, right? Or somebody else in my life, I can see it on their face. And I try to sort of see what's going on with them, because then I can use that information and be like, use it for myself, you know? Right? Like, it gives me another— it gives me some other tools. Maybe that I'm not aware of that sometimes get me to, you know, it's just bringing more awareness to what sort of things will induce a transition. And I think a lot of it, obviously we know— well, why don't we just, why don't we just go off and like name some off the top of our heads that we can call out and maybe people can start paying attention to them a little more. I'll I'll bring up the first one, uh, social media, you know, seeing negative, negative stuff on, um, I don't think Instagram's necessarily so bad because a lot of people are posting like positive stuff, you know, like, hey, this is me wherever, and this is, you know, me doing this, and this is me doing that. It's a little more geared towards a positive. But I'll tell you what, Facebook is, um, people like, people— my brother is really bad with it, posting a lot of like political stuff, and I just can't. I, you know, I got off Facebook a long time ago, but Um, you know, I— whenever I have gone on to just like see something or maybe give it a second chance, I, I really quickly I'm like, oh man, this induced transition just waiting to happen, you know?

Absolutely. Yeah, I— yeah, any, anything that triggers you, like, you got to be— you got to kind of insulate yourself from that, you know? Um, yeah, yeah, I love the— I love the gossip thing too. Gosh, so good. Yeah, gossip will—

yep, gossip will do it for for sure. Putting yourself in a situation where you think that you're going to get something like some sort of praise or reward or, you know, like a raise at work or, you know, building some sort of expectation, excess potential, right? And then your excess potential, I mean, that's probably my biggest trigger at this point is excess potential. I have grand ideas, as you know, when I've got brand ideas.

I love that though. I do. Yeah, that's a good thing. I think that's a good thing if you know how to manage it, you know? Because nobody who's like down to earth and doesn't dream big ever accomplishes shit. So you got to have a little bit of a delusion of grandeur.

Yeah, totally. Well, I've got that.

I've got that. Well, me too, I guess.

Yeah.

Pride, I would say pride.

Pride. Oh, absolutely.

You're proud of something. Yeah. And then somebody lets you down and and now all of a sudden you're upset because you didn't get, you know, and I guess that goes with accolades a little bit too, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yes. Um, family, you know, family, family can induce transition. Me like a motherfucker.

Me too.

You know, I can— I, I mean, I— the, the last time I was at my grandparents, I don't know what was going on with me. It was so weird. I mean, I can't even— I, I sensed it right away, so I pulled myself out of it, but Um, I think it's just like the dynamic. I, I know what it is. It's the dynamic. It's the dynamic between— there were multiple family members there. I think there were like 6 of us, and there was a dynamic. There's a dynamic like there is in every single family, right? And people assume that they know you 100%, and you know, you assume you know people 100%, and it's kind of like you get pigeonholed hold, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, I'll do something and then, and then my grandfather will say something like, oh, well, you know, that's the way she is, or, or, well, what's the flavor of the week, or something like he has me figured out. And I feel like I'm put into a box and that'll induce transition me really quick. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, oh, 'Oh, you just, you need to make sure that I'm in this role, even if I'm not, like even if I'm not talking about the thing or maybe—' Like, I don't eat pork, you know, I've never eaten pork for my adult life. I don't know why. I'm not Jewish or anything like that. I just don't do it. And he, the first night we were there, he served a meal with pork and I said, I was like, I said, "Oh, is this pork, Grandpa?" And he's like, "Yeah, what are you, you're not eating pork now?" And I'm like, "Well, I've actually never eaten pork my whole life." And that kind of insulted me that he didn't remember that even though I lived with them for a period of time and he was so insensitive to the fact that I did not eat pork and he wasn't being accommodating to me. So break it down right from there. What caused— and then it threw me into a bad mood, right? Threw me into an induced transition. Then I was like, "Oh man, how many days do we have here?" You know, and that's what I started thinking in my mind. And then I was like, "Nope, wait a second. You love being with your grandparents. You love being in Oregon. You love spending time with your family." You know, and then I just go to focusing on the positive, but what happened there was self-importance, right? Um, God, they don't— they don't think about me. They don't remember what I like or don't like. How could they do this to me? You know? And then there you have it, like that— that seed of importance is there, and I get insulted, and then all of a sudden I'm going into an induced transition, you know? It's like, so— so I'm aware, you know? And I'm not— I'm not— I've had a lot of people say stuff to me like, oh man, your reality must be so magical. And it's like, no, my reality, it's pretty good, right? But I experience all the same challenges, um, that everybody else does every day. Every day. I'm no different. I'm sure you're no different. You get— you, you go through all the same crap. The only difference is I have practiced and trained myself to catch myself a little bit quicker when I start to mess it up, you know?

Yeah, me too. Not only that, but I can use it for comedy. So I know that, like, so whenever some negative quote-unquote thing happens or something shitty, or yeah, I try and see the humor in it first and foremost, and then I can capture— I can use it and to make other people laugh. But some other things that come to mind on this is, uh, food can be, uh, some— oh yeah, a bit of an inducer to me. Um, of course alcohol and drugs for people, uh, it can be a very powerful, uh, one, uh, particularly alcohol, I think. Um, and then, uh, romance, right? Like, I'm— oh yeah, I'm working on, uh, some bits about Tinder right now where it's like, oh God, you—

I mean, we could do a whole— we should do— we should— we should plan this. We should do a whole, um, online dating Transurfing episode because— oh yeah, and, and I actually read something not too long ago ago saying that people that are actively on Tinder are like, um, 40% more depressed. Like, it's some crazy number of like, you know, what happens to the human mind when they— when they're on, um, Tinder, you know?

Yeah, I mean, you have to be so resilient. It's like, uh, my, my first joke on the Tinder, uh, little spot is like, I got tired of being rejected by girls, so I got on Tinder, and now they completely me. Yeah. Oh yeah, because that's literally like, you get to the end and it's like, okay, there's no one new. There's no one new in my area. And then you could get like upset about that, like, oh well, they're all just rah-rah, you know. And then, yeah, that's the—

that's what am I doing here transition right there.

That's the spider jumping or whatever. Like, yeah, this town sucks and everybody in it, and these girls are stupid, or like whatever.

And I can't believe I haven't gotten out of here, and what What's wrong with me? And oh yeah, you can— I mean, there were, there were times, uh, the last time I went on Tinder, uh, before I met my boyfriend that I have now, who's actually like the love of my life. We've been together for a year and a half and it's going amazing. But, um, when I was on Tinder before him, you know, I was like late 30s, and even though You know, when chicks go on Tinder, it's a little bit different of a deal. I went on Tinder and my ticker was like going because I paid that extra thing to see all the people that were doing— that were liking me before I liked so I could actually scroll through the people and see them before I could say, okay, I like this one or swipe right or whatever it is. You know that option? Right?

Yeah, I do know that. I know of it. I've never used it personally. I'm scared. Okay, so mine was—

yeah, it's totally different for dudes, by the way. So, so, so I live in a, in a pretty small community, and, and my, and my thing, like, you know, I took a picture of myself in a bodysuit, you know, and, um, I was like, hey, you know, and, and my thing, just my thing was like, I think in 24 hours I had 2,000, uh, swipe right or whatever it is. Like, it just kept going, and I'm like looking at it. So, so that was like, for me, I mean, obviously that hires me up on a higher track, right? But I, you know, I understand it's all, it's all false, right? It's all, it's, it's just going in the other direction than what you're talking about. But I've— but, but in my mind, even when that was happening, I'm like, dude, you're in your late 30s and you're on Tinder, right?

You know, like, come on.

And you're back on on, like, after how many times now?

I've known a couple people do catfish. I tried it one time, uh, to try to get people to come see our band a few years ago. And then, uh, but before that, my friend, uh, who's a comedian who shall remain nameless, he, uh, he catfished a bunch of people out to a comedy show, all these guys. And, uh, oh my gosh, yeah, so they're all in there, it's a full house. Wow. Like I thought, this is brilliant, right? But he totally shot himself in the foot. Like, the first bit that he did, like, he went out there, he's like, how many of you came in to meet Alyssa?

Or whatever. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. Every dude in there was just like looking around.

Oh my gosh, that is amazing. Oh, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I did when I first got into Transurfing and I was living in San Francisco. Um, I wasn't actually even thinking of dating, but I thought, oh, I should go on Tinder. And I linked my Transurfing Instagram feed and I put my website on there and links and like talked about Transurfing and to buy the book on Amazon. And people were like, people were like, how could you use this as a platform to promote your thing that you're doing? I'm like, well, I'm using the pendulum, you know, I mean, to myself. So yeah. Oh, anyway, I think we should really do a whole episode on, on that whole thing because I think that would be pretty funny. But yes, it is true. Dating websites, dating in general. If you have a bad date, man, induced transition city, you know? Yep. Not good. Not good. So cool. I mean, I really didn't talk a lot about a lot of the points that I have in my manual here just because the induced transition is a pretty easy— it's a pretty easy, like, concept to get. If you feel— if you're feeling good and then something happens and you kind of like wake up and you're like, oh wow, I was feeling good and then I'm feeling bad now— induced transition. You got to figure out where it's coming from and figure out how to manage it better, you know, and just continue to focus on the positive. Don't let negative information into your layer of reality no matter what, you know, and just systematically go through your day and try to see what stuff is— you try to add material that's going to help you get to some of those higher tracks and just stay away from the material that's gonna, um, you know, induce transition you. So it's, it's pretty simple actually. Yeah, it is, it is.

We talked about the generational shift, which is basically the natural mental, you know, uh, progression for most people. Um, obviously we don't want to dwell on the negative. We talked about caring for ourselves whenever we get into that state and giving ourselves a little bit of back and being like, it's okay, uh, whatever that takes. How many— however many buckets of Froyo, you know. Yes. And it's like the lifetime of it, you know. And like, you know, we both had— everyone has a hard time in school. Like, school's brutal. Like, kids are mean. And, you know, like, let— don't let those things push you down, you know. Like, you have to take and, and find out how we're stronger from those things. And, and also ask ourselves what we're putting too much importance on. Um, one thing, one thing can be a pain, one thing can be, um, unfortunate, you know, that's unfortunate, but don't let that affect the way you look at everything else in your life. Like, even if one thing's not working out like how your mind thinks it is, well, there's plenty of other things that are going well for you. Focus on those, figure out how the negative is actually to your advantage because your mind's not as nearly as smart as what it thinks thinks it is. Um, tune out of the gossip and the negativity. And I would say learn to shut up too, because gossip is so, uh, addictive and contagious. Yeah, like, if you can learn how to shut your mouth, like, in those times, I think you get a lot more power. Like, if, um, you know, if, if there's certain things that— I don't know, like, let's say special powers or something, right? And you would have to have— you would have to be, like, able to lock that up and not tell anybody. Well, that's a great way to demonstrate that you can keep a secret, right? So— oh, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think so too.

So what are the things that trigger you? Maybe it might be helpful to make a list of, of those things for, for people. I might do that later too, um, and just be like, okay, here's, here's some of the things that I've noticed that when they happen that I— it does get me, it hit— it pushes my button or whatever. And, uh, and that way that might make you a little bit more aware when that does happen. So that you don't, you know, go down the downward spiral and then induce transition and snowball out of that thing.

Yes, exactly. And, and, and the key here is to really just catch yourself before you snowball, you know. Like I said, there are times when I'll let myself go down, you know, if I feel like I can, and it's the right environment, and I want to, but I'll, I'll do it with full awareness of what I'm doing. And, you know, a depressed state for me will literally last a day, you know, because I've allowed it to. And then the next day I'm like, I wake up and it's back to my regular, you know, my regular broadcast, you know, sector of reality.

Like, yeah, that's great. That's so good. Like, after, after I did that cruise in February, I was gone for like 6 weeks on a cruise internship. And so I just came home and like allowed myself to just like lay on my couch and be home for like 2 days. Yes. And you know, I really wasn't like depressed, but it was like, man, like I was exhausted from just going all over the Caribbean, you know. Poor me, right? Yeah, yeah, you had to recover. You had to recover from hanging out with the Impractical Jokers or whatever, right? And so like I had to just lay on my couch, but I did though. I was like, I was exhausted. And, you know, like, I got a little bit of the ship funk. Like, that's part of it, you know. You get like, it's, there's, it's germy on there. There's, you know, a couple thousand people. And yeah, you know, everywhere you go they're spraying your hands with antibacterial stuff saying washi washi, you know. And yeah, so you got to like walk through. But I got a little bit of the funk. I came home and, you know, like, yeah, give yourself some space and whatever you need, um, you know, to just— but it's like we said in the, the episode about, um, defeating pendulums, bring awareness to it. Bring— be conscious about it, whatever that thing is, if you're, if you're present and aware, then it has almost no—

it has way less power. Yeah, if you're, if you're, if you're acknowledging that you're in a bad mood, and you're like, I don't know why, you know, I've had people say that to me in the past. Like, I'm like, what's going on with you? I don't know. You know, and it's like, if you really don't know what's going on with you, or where it's coming from, you're gonna have a pretty challenging time life, you know. You just are. You just are. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta be able to pinpoint it and work it out, you know. That's the bottom line. That's awesome.

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