Transurf and Chill w/Renee Garcia #01 "A Date with the Space of Variations" Reality Transurfing

Hello and welcome to Transurf and Chill on Transurfing TV. This is the show where I'm going to be interviewing Renee Garcia about literally every single concept in Reality Transurfing and breaking it all down for you. Really excited to be bringing the show to you all, so without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, the queen of Transurfing, Renee Garcia. Hey Renee, how you doing?

I'm doing pretty good, Owen. Thanks so much. How are you doing?

I'm doing fantastic. It's awesome to be speaking with you about this. I'm really excited about getting into these topics a little bit, a little bit, you know, more deeply. But also, we're kind of giving an overview so these lazy folks don't have to read a book, huh?

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, well, first off, I want to start off by saying, you know, just like, us planning to do this talk, it's amazing how excited I get at the prospect of talking about Transurfing. You know? It's so weird. It's like, I was thinking in my head today about, you know, what I wanted to discuss here with the Space of Variations, and like, as I'm going over the points in my mind, and I'm like thinking about this concept, Vadim lays it out, I'm like super excited. It's so strange, you know, it's, it's really just something that— and I've been, and I've been talking about it nonstop for the last 5 years, and it's like I literally never get tired of talking about it. It's unbelievable.

It's so cool. I do too. And, and, you know, since we've started collaborating, you know, it's just gotten better and better because you get to talk to so many more people about these concepts, and everybody has really cool insights into them, and it just, it just deepens the understanding, which is just going to make everything get better and better and better.

Yeah, it's just amazing. I mean, it never ceases to just floor me that I've truly found something that feels bottomless. You know, it feels like my life just continues to get better and better and better. I start to understand the concepts on a much deeper level. I was telling somebody the other day that just started reading the book, I'm like, this is going to excite you because she was really, really excited. Only 2 weeks in, super excited. I said, "Listen, this is gonna come as a surprise, but like 5 years in, I talk about this stuff, I think about a concept, I view my reality through the Transurfing filter, and I get like energized, I get excited. It's just, it continues to feed me." And I just, I mean, I have such passion for this knowledge. It just, It's all the time. It never stops. I mean, I just absolutely love it. So I'm glad we're starting here with the Space of Variations because I feel like, you know, I've referred the book to a lot of people in the last 5 years. I've stopped doing it so much. I don't really refer it to anybody anymore. I just, you know, let them reach out to me because either you're ready and you somehow connect with the concept before you read it, you know, maybe you hear a little something or maybe just seeing me and how I'm living my life, and, you know, be curious, like, "Oh, you know, what's this thing that you're about?" And then, I like to, you know, I like to offer it. But before, when I used to recommend the book to people, you know, I feel like the Space of Variations was a chapter, it was almost like a gateway. It's either where people fell in love with the knowledge, Or it's where they got intimidated and they shied away from the book and they wouldn't read it. You know? And I've had that happen to a few friends or a few family members that were like, "Well, I didn't really understand 'The Space of Variations' very much. It's kinda weird and, you know, it sounded really technical and sciency." And, you know, I actually sort of thought the same way when I originally read the book and was listening to the audio. I kinda thought that 'The Space of Variations' was sort of— like one of the least interesting topics to me. But over the last 5 years, it's actually changed to the opposite. Like, now, it is the most— this is the topic that continues to unfold for me. And what it is, really, that continues to sort of unfold is this concept that there are infinite variations around us all the time of every— possible scenario you could think of. And your thought quality, or what you're thinking about, or the parameters of your thinking is actually what moves you around from track to track. And when you really can gain a very, very solid sense of this, like, I can transfer over to tracks really, really easy now and create a whole new reality for myself in a matter of, like, days or weeks. I mean, it's really amazing. I am, I am Transurfing around to other tracks because I understand this knowledge. So, you know, what I'm attempting to do at this point is to, you know, allow, um, you know, I, I want to, I want to offer this information in a more, um, in, in a more concise way, um, to, to everybody interested. So, you know, If you're listening out there, you can absolutely do this for yourself. Like, it is super easy as long as you understand what you're working with, meaning your thought quality or the parameters of your thinking, the space of variations, and what you need to do exactly. But once you get it down, it's like, it's a miracle. I mean, you can change and shift and make different choices and connect with different tracks and change, you know, Vadim Zeland says, the set and decorations. The set and decorations can change like that for me. And it's getting easier and easier. So I just want everybody to know out there, this is real. This is real stuff and you can learn how to do this. It's easy once you get it. And that's what I want to talk about today is how easy it actually is.

That's awesome. Yeah. There's, uh, there's a lot of media out there right now that's reflecting a lot of his theories. Um, you know, I watched The OA not too long ago, um, and I've seen several things, even Adult Swim, Rick and Morty. Like, these ideas are kind of, kind of pervasive, and I think that they speak to a lot of people, um, and people kind of pick up on it and jive with it sort of subconsciously. Uh, and also I'll say, you know, I can relate too to when I first got the book. I was so excited, and, uh, I— the book just spoke directly to me, it seemed like, but I was also intimidated at the same time because I was like, oh shit, here we go. Like, I know I'm gonna have to— I know I'm gonna have to make some adjustments myself. But I think it's really going to be helpful for you and I to have this conversation and break this down, how people can navigate through the Space of Variations and exactly what it is. We want to maybe start with just talking about what the Space of Variations is.

Yeah. So, one of the practices that I give the people either taking lessons with me or getting certified, what I instruct the future trainers to do, is to have— So, I think the reason why this can feel like an overwhelming concept is because, obviously, everything that has, or is, or will be, that's a big— thinking about everything outside of us, right? All the matter that the world consists of, or the universe, the infinite universe, all the possibilities, all the parameters of the Space of Variations, it can become a very, like, overwhelming— overwhelming thought, like, oh wow, this, you know, it's, it's so vast. It's like it, it, it eludes people, right? So, so what I tell people to do is this. I say try to think of a visual representation. It can be anything you want, you know. And I, I gave a seminar with Dr. Salah Al-Rashad last year, and I had this as one of our, um, one of our practices. You know, I gave everybody 20 minutes to sit down and and write about, or draw a visual representation in their mind of what the Space of Variations was. And I have to say, like, I almost started crying when people started offering their ideas! So, there were people saying that, like, you know, they were in a spaceship, and they could fly around, you know, space, and land on different planets, and each planet that they landed on would be a different— different set of, you know, it would be a variation of reality for them. Some people would say things like, you know, a tree bearing really beautiful fruit, and you just have to reach up and grab and choose what piece of fruit you want to pick off. Or like mine is, you know, Vadim Zeland's idea in the book that I'm sitting at a restaurant and I'm ordering off of a menu. So, you know, there were lots of them. I mean, there was a few hundred people in the course, but there were lots and lots of them. We only had time to read a few. But I really love this practice, because it brings the concept a little bit closer to the individual. It's almost like, you know, people in AA having a higher power. Right? It's like something that you can turn to and say, "Okay, Space of Variations, let's go! What am I gonna choose? Like, present to me my options!" You know? And your options may be vague, but you at least have the opportunity, then, to reach out and grab what it is that you wanna choose. So, you know, the Space of Variations, again, there's so much there! It's hard. You know, when I first did my first seminar with Salah, I had never spoken publicly before, and I got up on stage with, you know, over 300 sets of eyes looking at me, and I had to stand there for an hour and a half and talk about the Space of Variations. And I have to say, it was very intimidating, because it's a big concept. But, you know, the Space of Variations is— is a good place to start with, you know, how do you choose to see it, right? Are you gonna say it's this big confusing space where you don't know what it is you want, and, you know, yeah, there's an infinite number of possibilities, but you don't know how to, you know, you don't know how to see that and work with it, right? Which is, I think, what a lot of people maybe do feel like. Or you can tailor it. You can tailor it down to something that's easy for you to grasp and understand and work with. And, you know, like I tell people, everything outside of you is where all of what you want comes from, right? Your thoughts connect you with that track where whatever you want exists on that track, right? So, if you— If you wanna just imagine that the Space of Variations is like a treasure chest, right? And you get to put your hands inside and grab what you want, you know? But, you know, obviously, you have to know how to do that a little bit. Wishes don't come true, right? Like Vadim says, wishes don't come true. So, you know, there are a few more steps, but once you— understand that it is easy to look at the space of variations like a treasure chest.

It is.

I mean, everything that you want is right there. It's just you have to learn how to access it.

That's cool. Yeah. So one thing that really helped me when I thought about this was, you know, in traditional self-help, we kind of like have to create our reality. And we have to do this thing to make and manifest and all that kind of stuff. But whenever I thought about this, it was like, oh, well, on the other side of whatever, this 3-dimensional reality, that everything already does exist. And it's like, instead of it, like in The Matrix, when the kids like, there is no spoon, that's not technically accurate. It's like there are infinite spoons. And so you get to choose between all of those different variations. And that's, I guess, why it's named, you know, space of variations. But, but that's really cool. I like the idea. I like the treasure chest visual a lot. And I think it's, I think it's really neat that people can visualize it. However, kind of, they see it. To me, it looks like these, these just like lines or veins that sort of splinter off and off and off and off and off, you know, from one another.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is cool. And I've definitely done meditations and stuff where I've, I've come up with different visuals myself. But, you know, the bottom line of it is, it doesn't matter how you visualize it, or, you know, how you choose to see it, it's really how you connect with it, and understanding your power of choice there, you know? That's the most important part, right? Because no matter how you choose to see it, the bottom line is, is that you're either putting your hands into a treasure chest, or you're reaching up and grabbing a piece of fruit, or you're flying around to another planet, or whatever the hell concept you decide to— you know, visual you decide to assign to it. The common denominator there is that you need to choose then, right? That it's up to you to choose. So, there's an infinite number of Lifetracks, Destinies, for each person in the Space of Variations, right? So, that's a lot, right? But here's the thing, anybody that is resentful of what they currently have, right, that's the wrong way to— you've just, you've, like, cut yourself off at the knees. You have a lot of other options, you have a lot of other possibilities, you know, an infinite number of destinies that are there that you can tap into. So, it really sucks if you happen to connect with one where you're resentful, you know, of what it is that you've chosen. But the cool thing about Transurfing is, all you have to do is make another choice. Mm-hmm. You know, that's all you have to do. So, the problem is, is that, Again, most people don't know how to do this, right? It's like, "Oh, well, that sounds great and all, but how do you actually do that?" You know? And again, it's quality of thoughts. It's what you choose to— And Vadim talks about it in the book, and I use this analogy all the time. So, you have two people. Standing on a street corner in New York, let's say Times Square, right? And one person is, you know, hopelessly depressed, right? And hasn't had anything good happen to them, hates life, wishes they weren't alive, you know, everything that they think is negative. You have that person standing on the street corner, and then let's say you have me, standing next to him, right? I see the world as something that is abundant, right? My world's taking care of me. I, I see magic everywhere I go, right? I see infinite possibilities. I see opportunity, right? So we're both standing on this exact same street corner, side by side, in Manhattan, Times Square. What the depressed person is seeing very different than what I'm seeing, because what they— what their thought quality and what their, their thoughts are is highlighting a different sector of reality. Okay, so, and then, and then the same for me, right? My thought quality, my, my, my, my thoughts specifically, they are highlighting another sector of reality. So everything will look completely different from one person to the next because of this idea, right? That it's your thinking that connects you with whatever it is in the Space of Variations. And remember, it's infinite, right? And the other thing is, too, is that, like Vadim says in the book, there is evidence to support any theory. Every theory, you know. The space of variations, there is no right or wrong, right? There is evidence. If you believe the world is bad and you're never gonna get anywhere, and everybody's gonna get everything and you're gonna get nothing, the world's absolutely gonna agree with you, right? But if you, on the other hand, believe that, you know, the world's full of opportunity and you're gonna be a rock star and you're gonna connect with all the stuff that you want, it's just down the road a little and you need to just just take the right steps towards whatever it is, then you're going to connect with that material, you know, with that material in the space of variation. So like, let's get back to the street corner. You know, the person that's depressed, hopelessly depressed, and doesn't like their life, they're going to see a bunch of shit, right? They're going to see the homeless guy that's drunk and almost dying, laying on the sidewalk. They're gonna see dark clouds rolling in. They're gonna see anything that is attuned to their frequency, they're gonna see that stuff, right? But I've managed to tune my brain in another way, right? Where I see— "oh, there's a 'Help Wanted' sign over there," and, "oh, you know, look at somebody just dropped $5 on the ground!" Right? Like, my frequency is now tuned to opportunity, finding stuff, finding good stuff, finding good people, you know, finding adventures, finding experiences, right? It's all tuned towards the positive. So, in doing that, I am creating my own reality, right? And my reality is agreeing with me because there's evidence to support all theories. So if there's, if there's tons of stuff out there for me and I believe that, and my, my, my brain is tuned to that frequency, what happens? I find the stuff, right? When other people aren't. That's the amazing thing. Other people are missing this stuff. I'm like going through my reality, my day-to-day reality, and I'm seeing all sorts of opportunities and things and people that are offering me information that can do something to improve my life. And I'm like, why isn't anybody else connecting with this stuff? And the reason that that's happening— their brain isn't tuned the same way mine is. So, you know, but I've just been practicing this for a little while, but it works. It totally works. So that's sort of my interpretation of the space of variations at this point. But again, you know, whatever it is for you, it is for you.

Yeah, that's really good. I like, I like, I like your interpretation. Is it with the— now the space of variations, that's the same as the dream world, correct?

Well, yes. So, you know, if we want to discuss the dream world a little bit now, the dream world is a very small chapter really, in the book. And what I tell people that take lessons from me, or people that are taking the certification course, is that the only real point that you need to touch on when it comes to the chapter about the dream world is that you should approach your reality in the same way that you approach— let's say, the dream world, lucid dreaming. So, for those of you that have had a lucid dream, now that's a dream where you're asleep, right, and you're dreaming, and you realize when you're in the dream that you're dreaming, and you wake up inside the dream, and then you have the ability to control the dream, right? You can do whatever you want. And I actually had a really, really, really amazing lucid dream a couple years ago where I, I, I understood exactly why Vadim speaks of the dream world. And he doesn't speak about it a lot, you know, it's a smaller chapter, but why it's there. And, and, and that is because we should approach our waking reality in the same way we would a lucid dream. And the cool thing is, is that you can actually do more in waking reality than you can a lucid dream, even though, you know, it seems like a lucid dream you could do anything. You You could fly, you could do whatever, but in waking reality, you can actually, you know, create material, right? You can actually create material because you can't pull material through the dream world, but you can definitely do that in the waking world. And the other point is that he makes is that, you know, at night when we're asleep and we're dreaming, all that's really happening is our soul, is flying around the Space of Variations, you know, untethered. So, that's why, you know, our dreams, it's like, "Oh, well, that was weird! I had this strange dream that there was, you know, somebody from my life, but they were in a different house, and we were in a different town, and, you know, somebody else was there that I didn't know." And you wake up, and you scratch your head, and you're like, "Well, what does that mean?" Well, there's no real value in interpreting it, it's just that you— actually connected with another possibility, another variation, another track in your dream that is a possibility in the Space of Variation, something that didn't actually materialize, right? And it probably won't. The only thing that I do tell people that is really valuable about the dream world is that I've actually had a lot of ideas come from my dream world. So, I've had, you know, things happen that kind of, you know, made a lightbulb go off, and I'm like, "Oh, that's actually a really cool idea!" You know, like, "Oh, I was speaking on a stage. Oh, maybe I should, you know, think about learning how to speak on a stage," right? So, I can, like, I can get a little bit of a, you know, I can sort of see something and then later translate that to my waking life. But yeah, dream interpretation's kind of— I would say it's not really the best use of your time, probably.

Yeah, fair enough. No, that's really cool. I like to think of it that way, too, because it's like, oh, well, the space variations— well, every, every night you go to sleep, you're proving that the space of variations exists, because that's where your soul is traveling, because your brain shut off. It's, it's, you know, it's not even in the equation unless you do become you know, awake. And I've had a couple of lucid dreams too. They're amazing. But, uh, it's really cool. I like the point a lot that, like, I can't bring material from the dream world into the, the material world, but I can bring material into existence in the material world. That's a really, really cool point there.

Yes. And it, and it, and it, and it helps everyone. It helps me to understand, you know, that I have power, right? That I have power to actually take from the Space of Variations, like, that, you know, it's not just my imagination or a dream, right? I can actually pull material out of the Space of Variations into my reality. And the other thing that I wanna touch on a little bit is, This is exactly why I fucking hate the law of attraction. Oh, God. The law of attraction, in my opinion, is a very— whoever wrote it is an extremely condescending person. And I think that it's confused people, and I think that it has— what it's done is it's actually put material um, further away from, from, from a good majority of the people that, that follow that stuff. And I'll tell you why. The Law of Attraction, you know, it— first of all, it doesn't really teach you action so much, you know. It's more about like thinking of something like, oh, I wish I had a Lamborghini, or I wish I had a million dollars. Right? And what happens when you follow— and I don't know a lot about the law of attraction. I mean, I read The Secret when I was younger and that sort of thing. And I had some luck with it, but my luck was, you know, just that. It was luck. It was like, yeah, it was like maybe I'd get lucky. And I'll tell you one more thought. Remind me to mention the story in The Secret about the feather after I— I give this breakdown. So, the Law of Attraction teaches you more about desiring and hoping. And what happens when a person does that is they're energetically sort of putting whatever it is they're, you know, hoping to have far away from them, right? Outside of the reach. And then, it's like, "Okay. Well, maybe you can reach for it, and you can reach for it, and maybe—" you can get it, you know. And then the thing is, is like, if the Law of Attraction worked or The Secret worked, right? The Secret's like this little book and they say it's so powerful, but if it was so powerful and it really worked, everybody'd be driving around Lamborghinis and have a million dollars, right? Like, everybody would just have everything, right? Um, the difference between Reality Transurfing and the Law of Attraction is Reality Transurfing teaches you that all the things you want are not very far from you at all. In fact, in reality, they're right outside your front door, right? My neighbor has got money in his wallet right now. There's a bank right down the street from me with a bunch of money in there. There's a Lamborghini somewhere. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not that far away from me physically. It's not that far away. I just have to connect with the track where that thing exists, right? And then, it's really close, right? It's a lot closer than what the Law of Attraction offers. You know, the Law of Attraction is like, "Well, just kinda throw the dice out there, roll the dice, and see if maybe you get something." So, getting back to the story that's in 'The Secret' about the feather, So, you know, somebody decided that they wanted to manifest a feather, and then one day they walked out of, I don't know, like Grand Central Station or something, and they walked out the front doors, and then there was this beautiful feather laying on the ground, and, "Oh my God, I manifested the feather!" No, you idiot, the feather was always going to be there, right? The feather was always going to be there. It's that you decided that you wanted to see a feather, that's why you saw it. You know what I'm saying? That's why you saw the feather is because you made a choice that you wanted to see a feather. If you hadn't made that choice to see that feather, you would never even notice.

Exactly. Yeah, that's the reticular activation system is all that is, is that you notice the thing that you think about. That's just a psychological, psychological thing, you know.

Exactly. So, so, so this is where The Secret and/or the Law of Attraction and Reality Transurfing divide. Made, right? Um, they're, they're— whoever wrote this crap, uh, you know, has people convinced that like, you just have to think of it and it'll appear. No, no, no, it's already there. It was already going to be there, right? So what you want, it's already there. You don't have to manifest it.

Yeah, absolutely. I hate that word just because it's been thrown around so much, you know.

You know, it's like, no, no, no, no. It's already there. You just have to put yourself on the track where that thing exists, and then you have to take steps, right? And this is where Tufti comes in. Tufti and the Space of Variations, you know, that's a good place to start if you wanna actually start pulling material into your life from the Space of Variations, right? It's about understanding your power of choice, and then acting in the now, right? Like Vadim says, you can't alter the script, right? But you can choose another variation. So, if I want something, right? If I want, let's say, a new career, right? I'm not gonna, like, just sit there and hope for this new career, and then it's gonna, like, show up. You know, I have to understand, okay, choice, right? This is what I want to see, just like the feather. The thing's already there, I just have to decide that that's what I want to see. And then with Tufti, you know, you start taking the steps. You start— what's the word that Angel always uses? Oh shoot, I'm drawing a blank here. Angel always says it. I want— Compose. Compose. You know, compose. So then, so then composing is essentially action, right? That puts you on the track, right? So you decided what you— you've aligned yourself with the track where the thing that you want exists, and then you have to act. Then you have to take the steps towards the thing. And the amazing thing that I found out is, uh, You know, it happens. Now, you can't control the timeframe, right? The time that you— here's one thing about the Space of Variations that took me a little while to understand. The Space of Variations does not understand the concept of time. You know, time is a human construct of the mind. Like, it doesn't exist, right? So, if you wanna connect with something in the Space of Variations, you can't say, say— if you say to yourself, I want to make $10,000 in one month, you've just fucked it up, right? Now you can say, I want to make $10,000, right? But if you put a timestamp on that, you just— you just kind of made that thing go a little further from you because you're putting parameters on it that the space of variation simply doesn't understand, right? Right, right. Doesn't understand your, your, your priority to get $10,000 right now. Now you can align yourself with the track where that $10,000 exists, and you can, you know, take the steps that you need to take to make the $10,000, and, and the space of variations will agree with you. But it's not necessarily gonna, um, you know, agree with your, with your, with your time frame. Now you could get lucky, but You know, most likely that's not, you know, that's not gonna happen.

Yeah, infinite patience makes things happen a lot faster. I think Ralph, Ralph said that when I spoke with him. And I was like, wow, that's really good. Because you don't put that constriction on that thing, or that timeframe. And at that point, you know, it's gonna work. It's— there's no, there's no trying to convince yourself about it. You're just like, okay, well, that's done. And then you allow it to kind of come to you. So, so as far as the composing and as far as picking and choosing from the space of alternates, what do you have to say about that? What do you— what's your approach regarding that technique-wise?

So, um, I have, um, this little thing that I call the 4 key— 4 keys towards, um, movement forward with choice. Okay, and it goes like this. First, first thing you got to do is you got to inform yourself of your choices. Okay, so that's learning what's available to you, right? I'm always doing research, always, because I want to know what options I have, right? If somebody goes, oh, I just opened a new business and I'm doing blah blah blah blah blah, right? I'll go on to Wikipedia or Google and I'll like research it and read some stuff and I'll be like, oh, that's interesting, right? So boom, I've created— I've informed myself of a choice. I'm always looking around me to like see what other people are doing, how other people are making money, how other people are having fun, you know, what projects other people are getting involved in, because I just— I want to make sure that I have like as many choices as possible to choose from, right? So that's the first one, is inform, inform myself, inform yourself of the choices. Um, then the second thing is, is like, I kind of resonate with those possibilities, right? So this is where, um, you know, the heart and mind alignment sort of come in, right? Usually when I come across something that's really cool my heart will just be like, "Yeah, go!" You know? And then my mind's like, "Yeah, let's run on this!" You know? And that's kind of like me resonating with my options, and then my heart will just kind of like choose something. So then it goes through that passage first, and then the brain's like, "Oh yeah, this is a green light." So then it's like, "Go!" Right? So, it's inform myself of my choices, then resonate with the possibilities or choices, And then it's make my choice, right? And make my choice is like, okay, I'm going for this. Now it doesn't mean that I'm making a lifelong commitment, right? It just means that for right now I'm just gonna run with this and I'm gonna see what happens, right? And then, and then, you know, the, the, the last step is something that just kind of happens naturally for me now. I mean, once I've made— once I've informed myself of my choice, I've resonated with the different choices that I have, and I've chosen one, right? Once I've chosen one, if there's something— if there's something there on that path that I want, I just take calm, non-emotional steps towards whatever that thing is. You know, it's like, I know this— I don't know, does this sound easy or hard?

It sounds— I mean, It sounds counterintuitive, but it sounds easy at the same time. I think that's the difference.

So my brain, I think, functions a lot differently than most people's brain does normally, right? And I think the reason for that is because I have been living Transurfing every single day of my life for the past 5 years. So now, so now the way that I see reality It's, it's almost like a video game, you know? It's like, uh, it's like an advanced video game, right? Like, remember when Grand Theft Auto came out, how cool it was that you're like, whoa, you can like jump in a car and like drive it around and like get out and just start shooting people and like go nuts? And then you can go and you can do this and you can do that. Remember how mind-blowing that was that you had— you had— because before, remember, like Mario Brothers, it was like a linear, right? Like you didn't have an direction. You just went forward, you know what I'm saying? I do. So then Grand Theft Auto came along and it was like you could 360 turn and go in any direction, and you had an arsenal of weapons, and you could jump on a bike or a car or, you know, punch some guy in the face or whatever it was. Um, that's what my reality— I think a lot of people sort of see reality, living reality, in a linear You know, like, you're going in one direction, and I'm turning around and seeing like a 360 view. And I have, and I have lots and lots of different things and lots of weapons in my arsenal. And I can like, go nuts.

No, that makes sense. It's like the difference between, you know, the second and the third dimension, like the book Flatland, you know, it's been a long, long time ago, like people live on, you know, like this flat plane. And, you know, they can't understand what's beyond that, because they can't see past it. But I think the Mario— yeah, you go, you know, that's a great example, you know, between those two things. So first, first key: inform yourself of the choice, become aware of what's out there, learn what's available. And then you want to resonate with whatever possibility, which is not permanent. You can always, you know, go to another goal, or if you get tired of it, or if you change your mind. And then choose— this is the third key. And, and then the— and so if you don't mind just repeating the fourth and just maybe clarifying a little bit, it's kind of like then you've made your choice, right?

So let's say that I like my, my latest endeavor, which I got my first real estate check today, and I'm so, I'm so happy. Congratulations. Yeah, I'm super excited. And I'll tell you why. When I first got my real estate license, 6 weeks ago, I went to a seminar, like a, like a, you know, introductory introduction seminar of like, this is, this is the real estate world. And the guy that stood up and said, okay, all of you look like you're ready to go, and I just want to let you know that, you know, this is a fun business, but it's gonna take some time. He said, when I got my real estate license, I didn't close a house for a year. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't see my first commission check for a year, and I was like, oh fuck, no, that's not— you know what I'm saying? I was like, uh-uh. I'm like, I got— and I, I thought this in my head, I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna tufty this, this is not— this is gonna be— this is gonna be— this is gonna go a lot quicker. Now, I did not set a time frame I did not— I did not say I'm gonna get my first check in a month, right? I didn't set a time frame. I didn't set any parameters. I just followed Tufti, right? I just followed what the book said to a T, right? And 6 weeks later, which, you know, escrows take 30 days to close, so do the math there, you know. I got my first one pretty fast, and I'm in escrow on a bunch of other places. It's happening really fast. But it's like, you know, my reality responds to me quickly because I'm following these concepts. So anyway, yeah, that, that felt super good. So, so back to what I was saying, um, the fourth point is when, uh, I decided that I wanted to be a real estate agent in my hometown, right? I want to try this out and see what happens. Uh, so then I see some things that I want Right? I wanna get escrows, I wanna get checks, I wanna meet clients. Right? So, then, those are the things on the track that I want. All I gotta do is take the steps in the direction to get that stuff. Right? I have to make the cho— like, I've made the choice to do it. Right? Now, I gotta make the choice to just put one foot in front of the other and actually do the things that— and this is the trick about doing something like that. All you gotta do is mimic somebody else that's doing it, that's getting the stuff you want. That's all you gotta do! You know? But if you can keep your thoughts aligned correctly with the objective, right? So, you know, there's evidence to support all theory, and your quality of thoughts is going to highlight a different sector of reality. I just keep my thoughts— that's highlighting that sector of reality where I get exactly what it is I'm looking for, and I just gotta put one foot in front of the other, and I don't even have to take that many steps! It just sort of happens. So, yeah, it's about stepping towards what you desire, or what it is that you intend to have. Right? It's just about taking those steps. And I think a lot of times— and, you know, I had this problem, too, when I was younger. I just didn't know how to put one foot in front of the other, or I cared too much about what people thought of me, you know? Or maybe, like Vadim says in the book, like, "Oh, that stuff's for other people." "Right?" Or—

I don't deserve it. Yeah, you're not allowing yourself to have at that point.

Exactly. Reality is much more agreeable than what is commonly believed. Right? The space of variations is much more agreeable. I've done things that most people— You know, wouldn't ever— You know, when I had my sailboat in Marina del Rey, a 42-foot sailboat, I learned to sail that thing single-handedly, right? And nothing was automatic. So, I learned, I taught myself to take that out into the Santa Monica Bay and cast sails and— and sail that boat completely single-handedly on my own, when most people would say that a 42-foot boat needs 3 adults to sail it. I learned to sail it on my own. And people say, "How did you do that?" And the funny thing now is that I understand, you know, Transurfing in such a deep way, it's like I understand now that— All I did was allow myself to do it and not think, oh, this needs 3 adults to do this, right? I just did it. I just did it. Whereas most people think, oh no, that needs 3 adults to do that, so you can't do that. You know what I'm saying?

Do you understand? Yeah, I sure do. Yeah.

So I broke down— all I did was I broke down the common belief. Right? And that's the same with connecting with material in your reality. Right? There's a common belief that, whatever it is. Right? Don't adhere to the common beliefs. Try things on your own. Now, I'm not suggesting everybody go try to sail a 42-foot boat on their own. You know, it was challenging, and I was scared shitless, actually, while I was doing it.

Fair enough.

Fair enough. You know? But that's what I've consistently done since finding Transurfing. Even before that, I was pretty out there, right? I understood the value of not adhering to common belief. But yeah, that stuff's out there for the taking. There is stuff out there for the taking. You just have to not adhere to common belief that it's not for you. Right? Right? And, and, and, and do what you need to do, right? Keep your thoughts in line with the thing. Read Tufti, you know, Tufti is an amazing book and mind-blowing, you know. Listen to, listen to Tufti audio on Transurfing TV. I mean, that'll teach you, that'll teach you what's up pretty fast. I mean, don't you think?

I sure do. Yes, that book is amazing. I keep listening to it even though it's my voice, which I hate, you know what I mean? It's like I still, I can't stop, you know. It's, it's, it's amazing, just the advantage principle alone. And that's something to keep in mind for that fourth point is when things don't go like you think they should, then just remember that that's actually the space variations working to get you your goal even faster. That's actually an advantage for you.

Oh, yeah. And that's— and that you want to talk about counterintuitive, you know, I mean, talk about jump ship, right? Most people, first sign of danger, And that's the other thing that I think hinders people a lot from getting what they want. You know, if you follow my little formula, right, inform yourself of your choices and then resonate with your possibilities and then make your choice and then step towards what it is that you desire to have or you intend to have, most people are like, cool, I'll inform myself of my choices, yeah, I can do that, I can do that, and then resonate with the possibilities, yeah, sure, yeah, that's easy, you know, I can do that. And then, okay, I've made my choice, and then, okay, I can step towards the thing. And then all of a sudden somebody comes in front of you and goes, oh, wait a second, you can't do that, uh, you were, you know, you're, you don't have this trait or that trait, or that's for somebody else, or blah blah blah. And then most people go, well, that's enough of that, that, that failed, right? Like, like most people are actually pretty quick to, you know, just choose another route or give up on the route altogether, um, when they see any sign of trouble on the track. But, you know, trouble on the track oftentimes is just, like you said, it's, um, diverting you to an easier route.

Yeah, or, or giving you like a lesson that you're gonna need later, or it's for your advantage somehow. And like she says in the book, it's like one way or the other, this is to your advantage. If you don't wake up right now and realize that this is for your advantage, you will look back and see how it was to your advantage. Totally, totally.

And my God, has that happened to me now? You know, like, looking back on my life, I mean, talk about just like a tragic comedy, you know, like, and at the time, I'm devastated. And I'm like, You know, I'm like, oh my God, what have I done to deserve this? Oh my God, I was born poor white trash. And, you know, and oh, you know, and, and, and, and now I look back and it's like, I really am just cracking up now, you know? Yeah, like, how can I not laugh? You know, how can I— how It's amazing! And looking back at my past self, distraught and devastated over something not working out, when I've ended up where I've ended up now, I'm like, "I can't believe it!" I'm like, "Come on!" You know? If I could— I was thinking today, if I could extend to one person a lesson that I had to learn the hard way. And at the time, I thought, "Oh my God! This is it! My life's over!" And I could extend that lesson and be like, "Take that lesson, right? Don't learn it the hard way, just take it from me, and understand that your reality is— your world is taking care of you. Everything is gonna work out for your absolute benefit." You know? And don't make the same mistake that I did of feeling like whatever it was that I used to feel. You know, God, it's so foreign to me now. I don't even— I can't even connect with that thought. But it's like, I just wish that I could extend this to people, you know, that it's all going to be okay. And here's the thing. As odd as this sounds, and I know we've diverted a little bit from talking about the Space of Variations, but the, but the, the, the point that I always find comfort in— and this is gonna probably sound dark as hell to you, but, and to the listeners out there— but the point that I always find a lot of comfort in it, comfort in, is that none of it really matters at all, right? We're all headed in the same direction. Nobody is getting out of this alive. We're all gonna die.

Yeah, it's a video game. It's a video game.

It's a video game, right? Exactly. You're gonna die. And all this energy that you have put out, or felt, or used to do something, or all this importance that you've placed on your action, and your life, and your progress, and your thoughts, and all this stuff, you're just gonna die! And it's gonna dissipate into the Space of Variations, and somebody else will, you know, somebody else being born will be born with all that stuff that you once had, and they'll go through the whole thing. So, it's like, just live it! You know, just live it and have fun, and understand that it's a game! That's going to end, right? Give it your best, be outrageous, go for the gold, as stupid as that sounds. You know, like, who cares if you fail doing it? You're gonna die anyway! You know? At least you gave it a shot, right? And when I go after life, when I go after my reality or the things that I want with that mentality, I get stuff! You know, because I've like dropped importance and I'm outrageous enough to allow myself to have, you know, that's great. That's great. Yeah. So it's—

life's a trip, you know? It is. It reminds me of something that Emerson said. I've read Self-Reliance probably more than any other, like, short book or essay. And he talks about some point in that book where he's like, if you don't say the thing, your truth, like your genius, he calls it in the book, if you don't speak it, than you get to endure having to hear somebody else speak your truth to you. And the whole time you knew it. That's just like the dirtiest thing, you know, just like, oh, that's so insufferable. So if you don't, if you don't allow yourself to be outrageous and allow yourself to have now, then you're just going to get sit on the sidelines and watch everybody else while they do the thing you knew you could.

Oh, God. Can you imagine any more of a tragic way to just burn your life up when, when you, when you can just drop importance on yourself, drop importance on life, you know, and just live and be outrageous and say whatever and do whatever and allow yourself to have whatever it is you want and like do crazy stuff and have experiences and you know, break out of that common belief, right? I mean, honestly, Owen, that's all I feel I've really done. You know, that's all I feel I've really done is I've just managed to break out of common belief. You know? Yep. Yep. That's all I've really done, because if you look at my life, with where I came from. Like I was telling you before we started the interview, I grew up in a trailer park on the outskirts of Modesto, California. You know? Like, there's no reason! There is absolutely no reason I should have any of this! I own a beautiful home that I've paid for with my own money. You know, I have amazing life experiences. I have money in the bank and stuff going on, and opportunities. And I am living my absolute best life, my best reality I can possibly live. And I'm not educated. You know, I didn't even graduate high school! Right? All 4 years of high school, I went 1 year total. If you added up all the time in high school, I completed 1 year of high school. I don't have any education beyond that. You know, the, the— I have defied common belief, but the only reason that I've actually done that is because that's what I chose, one, and two, I took action. That's it. That's the only thing I've done. It's the only thing I've done. Anybody can do this. Anybody can do this. I do not possess any set of skills that other people— I'm not a special person, you know. I just have managed to think— I've just decided to view reality in a different way.

That's the bottom line, via Transurfing. That's great. Yeah, it's, it's amazing. Like, I was watching George Carlin, a little bit of George Carlin's videos earlier today. He also dropped out of school at like 9th grade or something like that and wound up becoming one of the most brilliant, you know, not quote unquote educated either, you know, but he just took a different path, you know, and he's like, you know what, I'm not going to go with the hive mind, the herd mentality. I'm going to go my own way. And so, we all have that choice.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And, the other thing is, you know, you have to look at who you really are as a human being, right? And, what your skill set is, right? What you're capable of and what you're not capable of. And, I know that sounds a little bit contradictory, right? Because here I am saying, oh, you can do anything, um, and then I'm saying, you know, you have to realize what you're not capable of. Um, having not graduated high school, not having any formal education, I knew that I probably wouldn't, uh, get a job with NASA, right? Um, I probably wouldn't become a neurosurgeon. Right? That's not in my realm of possibilities. So, when we say that the Space of Variations is an infinite field of possibilities, that's true. But there is a certain— there is a certain number of possibilities that are more closely— directed at you, right? Me not graduating from school, me not going, going to high school, all that stuff. I mean, that's kind of got like entrepreneur written all over it, right? It really does. If I was gonna succeed, it was gonna be via, you know, some, you know, some variation of me being an entrepreneur because that is a possibility there for me. NASA neurosurgeon probably wasn't gonna happen, right? So, so whatever it is that you possess, right, that's gonna, that's gonna have like, you're gonna have certain goals and doors that are, you know, for you, right? And there's nothing wrong with understanding your strengths and your weaknesses in relation to the Space of Variations, right? Because the idea of Transurfing is that you wanna connect with what it is that you want in sort of the easiest fashion, right? So, what is available to you? Like, what is truly available to you that's something that you could access pretty easily?, right? And I promise you there's a lot of stuff, because if there was a lot of stuff for me, I had very, very, very, a real limited amount to work with when I decided to leave my hometown. You know, I was 17 years old, I had no education, I had no money, you know, I didn't have like a family name or, you know, anybody backing me. I had no safety net, I had nothing like that, right? So if I've managed to come up with what I've come up with, right? And I started where I started. Like, I'm sure most people out there probably are working with a little more than what I had, you know? So, so, so, so, so you guys out there, like, your possibilities are at least as good as what mine are, right?

Totally, if not more. Yeah, no excuses, people.

No excuses. I feel, you know, I feel bad because, you know, I've read a lot that like this reality creation stuff or like, you know, manifestation, you know, even though I hate the word, or all these different lines of thinking, they always say that, you know, it's vict— it's victim blaming or whatever they say.

Have you heard that? No, I haven't heard that.

So, so, so like a lot of, um, I think I even read something online once that said Transurfing is really like bad because it's like victim blaming. It's, it's, it's, it's convincing a person, um, you know, to think that like if something bad happened to them, it was a, it was a product of their thinking.

Oh, I see. You know what I'm saying?

And, and, and remember there is evidence to support any and all theories, right? So, so, so if you choose to believe that, then you're right. That's exactly right.

Yeah. I even had a guy who reached out to me like a year ago, and he was like, oh dude, I love what you're doing. And, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then he had all these things happen, you know, uh, something happened with his girlfriend, and they had to deal with a bunch of stuff. And then her parents were this and that. And, you know, like, I messaged him because I hadn't heard from him for a while and he said, oh, all this stuff happened, you know, and it's, it's— he thought, he thought that he— well, in some of it he did, I think, but honestly, just through action, not thoughts. But, but he was like taking that approach that, that, that more like he was a victim of his own, of his own thinking kind of thing. And I want to just be like, you know, but then again, like you said, there's evidence to whatever. It supports, you know, like you create, you do believe, you buy into that. And so I don't know, it was weird. It was just really weird because I was like, well, dude, I hope you know, like random shit happens. It's not your fault. Like you don't have to blame yourself for like, you know, some, you know, I don't know, like, I don't know, some weird tragedy strikes and somehow you're— it's your fault. Like, that's stupid. That's absurd. You just, you know, that's just life. You know, things are going to happen. You have to just navigate through those things and then just continue on with the path, with your journey, keep going in the direction that you— you have and be imperturbable. That's another angel word that I'll throw in. And, and, but, you know, but at that point I was like, well, I guess, you know, we're probably not going to, you know, collaborate or anything because he just kind of like fell off the map, had a little bit of maybe of an induced transition there. But yeah, I can see that. I can see that. I can. I can totally understand that perspective, but yeah, if you choose to believe that, then I guess it's true for you.

Yeah, exactly. And, you know, the golden rule of Transurfing, as Vadim puts it, is allow yourself to be you and allow others to be themselves, right? So, don't waste your energy. If somebody has decided to see reality in some fucked up way where they're not going to benefit, they never have and they never will, and reality body sucks and Transurfing sucks and you're, you know, like my sister once said to me, she goes, "You know, Renee, not everybody gets to just walk around with rose-colored lenses on like you." And I'm like, "Okay." You know, like—

It's happened to me a lot too. My whole life, like, I've been a raft guide, I've got to work on cruise ships, you know, and film and all this and people think that I just live in this bubble of reality that is like— and they're like, well, it must be nice. And I'm like, well, it, it's great. Yeah, actually, thanks for, thanks for noticing, you know.

It's like, exactly. So, so don't get caught up, you know. My advice to people is like, don't get caught up in somebody else's perception of reality, right? Especially if it's somebody that you have to live with. Right, that doesn't like your, you know, your version of reality because they view you as your head in the clouds or you, you know, aren't seeing things the real way. I mean, if that's the way they choose to see it, you don't need to get involved with that, right? Let them have their reality. That's their choice. And you take yours. I actually was living with a guy in Portland when I first found Transurfing. And it very quickly ended our relationship, you know? And I moved out, because he could not stand— this was before— this was during the, you know, when Trump started to gain some momentum before he got elected. And, you know, he was like this, this foaming-at-the-mouth, you know, progressive liberal that was just unbearable to be around. And he wanted me to hate, you know, he wanted me to hate Trump, and he wanted me to go for Bernie. And I wasn't doing it. Like, I wasn't, you know, I didn't have any, any weight on the matter in any direction. I was reading Transurfing. I was creating my own reality. I was having fun. I was trying to figure out what my next steps were going to be in life, what I wanted to do. I was in the process of reprogramming my mind, you know. I didn't have, um, you know, a bunch of free time to sit around and, and, and entertain bullshit politics, right? Especially, um, you know, hating somebody, right? Like, I could see myself getting involved in, like, you know, if it was adding something positive to, to my life or helping me, you know, resonate on a certain frequency that I enjoyed. But, you know, he got upset with me because I wasn't hating Trump, you know. And that was one of those times where I learned exactly, you know, what Vadim spoke of: allow yourself to be you and allow others to be themselves. If that's what he wanted to do with his time and he needed a partner that was gonna sit around and hate Trump with him, then that wasn't me, right? I excused myself from the deal, and I'm very happy that I did. But sometimes, you know, sometimes you gotta eradicate the pendulum, sometimes you can live with it. I'm sure, you know, a lot of people, it's probably not as extreme, you know, that whole difference in, you know, perception of reality. But let other people think what they want. You think what you want, you know. It's like, I don't know, I'm so, I'm so easygoing with it now. I'm just like, you be you and I'll be me.

Yeah. And I, and then just a tip to anybody out there who's like got that negative mindset, I would just say, like, because I have like my cousin, you know, he just always lands on his feet, you know. And there's a lot of people out there, some people just, I think, intuitively just grasp some of these concepts, you know. And it's like, if, if not that I would ever like try and convince somebody because it's a waste of my time. But if you are one of those people who are like, well, blah, blah, blah, you know, and like very negative and, and all of that, like look around you and see the people who do just somehow like a cat land on their feet time and time again against all odds. And you just see it, you know, and it's like, how, how is that even possible? You know, I'm here in the real world. You know, how do they get to, you know, go on cruise ships or, you know, get a new job even after they've, you know, messed up or done this? It's like, it's all in there. It's all in the way they— it's all in their mentality and the way they view their world. Yes, absolutely.

It's like Vadim says in the book, we all know somebody who we consider lucky, right? It's— yeah, I mean, that person that you know that is quote unquote lucky, They're just highlighting another sector of reality where they view themselves as a winner, and their reality agrees with them, right? Your reality is not biased. It is going to agree with whatever worldview you have decided to adopt, period. You know, period. It will agree with you. Now, it's not gonna agree with you 100% of the time, But if you can systematically learn to look at reality in a specific way, that's what you're gonna get, right? I'm a successful entrepreneur who's had many successes in my life with making money and doing cool things and building projects, and they work out, and really interesting things happen, and people go, "Oh my God, that's so cool!" And, "Oh wow, it blew up because of this reason!" and it's got, you know, and like all these, all these things. And they're like, how, you know, like, wow, you're so— how do you get all this stuff to happen? It's because I'm choosing that possibility.

That's all. Simple.

I'm choosing that. Yeah, it's very, very simple. I'm choosing that possibility, and so there's the and or but, I'm willing to take action on it. "Right? I'm willing to pick up my phone and start calling people. I'm willing to start emailing people. I'm willing to go knock on somebody's door. I'm willing to go and show up to an office and give a pitch. I'm willing to whatever it is!" You know? I mean, whatever it is! But you gotta, again, set aside— the whole, like, you know, the common belief is, you know, you— if you don't have an education, show up to places with ideas, and I promise you somebody will listen to you and opportunities will present themselves.

I'll be honest. Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I have an education and no one's ever even asked to see the certificate, nor has it ever— you know, I mean, if you're like an engineer or a doctor doctor, it's a different story. But for most of us who have a psychology degree or an English degree or whatever, it's just, it's just a bunch of money you got to pay back to the, you know, to whoever you borrowed your student loans from. So, you know, a pedigree or a piece of paper, it doesn't, it doesn't prove anything. In fact, when I graduated high school, my grandfather looked at me and he goes, hey, just because you got a piece of paper today doesn't make make you any smarter.

I mean, oh, oh yeah, oh my God, I missed that guy. Yeah, that's amazing. That's— it's so true. It's so true. But, but here it is, common belief is that it does, right? Right, right. That's what he was trying to tell you. Like, don't— you know, common belief is that if you have that piece of paper doors are just gonna be opening for you, but they're not, right? The reason that that belief is out there, that you need to have, you know, a diploma in order to succeed, is because of massive pendulums. And I know I don't want to get going too much because we obviously can have more conversations later, you know, and make more, you know, talk more about pendulums. And all that, uh, on a deeper, deeper level. But, you know, pendulums want you to believe in the system that they've created, and that is where our common beliefs come from, right? So, so if you can break those down and start to view your reality as there are no real parameters, right? It's about me making a choice and me taking active steps towards whatever that is that I have decided I intended to have, right? That will break down some of those parameters, or some of those constructs, and actually allow you to go after things in a much easier, much more— I don't want to say feasible because, you know, well, I mean, obviously there are positions that you cannot have. Like I said, I'm not going to get a job at NASA.

Yeah, some of us can't sing. It's, you know, it's— you're not going to be a singer, whatever.

Comes back around to what I was saying about knowing your strengths and weaknesses, knowing what you're capable of, of, and what you're not capable of. And just because you go and you get a degree in marketing doesn't necessarily mean that that's what you're good at, you know? Like, you can find what you're good at. If you want to be into marketing, you don't have to go get a degree to do that.

I would argue that you'd be 4 years behind if you went to college to learn marketing, you know what I mean? Because it's just happening so fast on the internet right now.

Oh yeah. So, so, so if you want a degree, if you want to, if you want to, if you want to go out after marketing, you don't need a degree. What you need to do is you need to, uh, maybe start representing some brands, figure out what some brands need, get on social media, learn social media, learn Instagram, learn, you know, what sells, learn how people sell things, learn analytics, learn, you know, whatever it is. Like, you can learn all that stuff on your own. You do not need to go to a, to, to, to, to a place to teach you anything. All this information is out there, right? Space of variations. All this information is out there around us. You just got to connect with it. There's more, uh, paths than one to anything, right? Don't go on the belief that, uh, there's one path to something. There's lots of, lots of different roads that can take you there. And Transurfing can absolutely help you figure out a road that's intended for you to the thing that you're intended to have easily! Right? Easily! Much more easily than some of the ways that people are going for stuff these days. Right. Right. So, anyway. Oh my God.

We're like an hour over.

I know, I know. Okay, so this—

It's really good though. This is really good.

Yeah. So this whole, like, we're going to talk about 3 concepts in an hour.

I don't feel that anymore. Yeah. This has been an awesome conversation though. And yeah, I guess this is a really good place to kind of just wrap this up and Yeah, the 4 keys, I'll go over one more time. Inform yourself of the choices that you have, learn what's available to you, and then find what you resonate with, what possibilities. Make your choice, and then calmly choose, and then start taking action towards the thing that you chose.

Yeah, pretty easy stuff. Pretty easy stuff. Um, I hope that, you know, most of the, you know, I hope that I gave a well-rounded instruction on this concept. If anybody feels that I left something out, or if they have questions, absolutely respond in the comments, or ask in the comments, and either I or Owen, will address anything that anybody, you know, anything anybody has to say or any questions that anybody has. Again, the space of variations is a vast, vast, vast concept.

It's literally infinite.

It's literally infinite. So trying to talk about it in an hour, right? This is just my thoughts and perceptions on it in this moment. But I'm sure, you know, if you guys want to have a have a conversation about it in the comments, go for it! You know, because this is a great topic to have a conversation on, because the more— again, the more options that a person has, right? It's like, just develop it in your way that you understand it and you feel that you can access, that this concept will allow expansion. Accessibility for you to the things that you intend to have. That's the main thing. And again, breaking down all that stuff of, like, common belief is that I can't do this, or that there's only one way to this thing, or whatever. It's letting that stuff go. Space of variations is a treasure chest. Learn to stick your hands in there and pull out what it is that you intend to have. And that's it, you know.

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