Building a Brand Bigger Than Yourself: Bridget James Ling on Movement Marketing | #Marketing - Ep. 65

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I am so excited to be here, Russell. Like, this is a dream come true. Thank you for having me. I'm just— I'm ready to provide some value for women who want to scale their coaching businesses.

It's so cool. I'm excited to start because the ending of this is like you're about to do another huge event. Last year you did an event. I think you said 500 women came to it. This year, probably closer to 700. And so that's like the end goal, which I think everyone in our world who's a coach is looking like, how do I build the following and the event and all this stuff? But I want to reverse engineer the beginning of it, because that is where a lot of my listeners are at right now, where they have a vision, have an idea, but they don't know the steps to get there. So where did this whole journey start for you and how long ago was that?

I mean, it, it was really 2020. I've, I've always been an entrepreneur my whole life. I went to school part-time and then also studied how to build brick and mortar dance studios, like highly competitive dance businesses. And when I moved to New York City, I was working for a dance company there, but ultimately realized that I could work for myself. And I started— it was my freedom journey. And I started trying network marketing, teaching fitness online. Like, I was just trying about just about everything. And in 2020, when COVID hit, I felt like it was my time to go. I was already planning to quit my job. And so I booked a one-way ticket to Costa Rica. I started my online business. At the time, I was just helping women manifest freedom in their life, whatever that meant for them. Like, to get a pay increase or to be more confident in themselves. And as my business really took off, I started signing on more clients and built this company called Freedom Queen. And around when I was in Costa Rica, I met my now fiancé who introduced me to you. And he was like, do you know what a funnel is? Like, you really need a funnel. I was like, okay. Like, I literally legitimately— I know you get this a lot, probably— like, thought it was like the thing in the kitchen. And I was, what I was really, yes, I was moved by your funnels, but what I was really moved by, the movement piece. And I clung onto that. I went to my first Funnel Hacking Live. I had no money. I barely could afford the ticket there. I walked in and had a panic attack 'cause I didn't feel qualified to be in the room, literally a panic attack in the bathroom. But when I stood, saw you stand on stage and talk about a movement, I was like, this is my guy. Because I understand funnels and that's important, but the ability to move people. And I felt in that room this like tap on my shoulder from God saying, one day you're gonna host conferences like this for women. Because at the time Funnel Hacking Live was mostly men. And then so on and so on.

How many years ago was the first FHL you came to?

2021.

Okay, so it was not that long ago. This is a compressed timeline for you. That's crazy. So you felt that tap, you felt that impression, and then What was the next steps for you?

Well, at that time I was really building a coaching business, so I was selling my time for money. I was just a regular online coach, like life coach, some business coach. I was a mixture of that. And when you talked from stage about building a movement and I saw what you did with the Funnel Hacker identity, this is when Freedom Queen was born. I realized I need to create an identity for my people and bring them to a shared vision. And so after that event, I remember going live in front of my community and saying, we are Freedom Queens. And I remember signing off of my email saying, I am a Freedom Queen. Hashtag, say it with me, I am a Freedom Queen. And you were teaching me like how to put together a manifesto. And then, and then that just started compounding. So I positioned myself now as a movement leader instead of a coach. And now Freedom Queen Live is an entire conference on how to scale a movement instead of a coaching business.

Yeah, it's so cool. I'm curious, like when you first put that out there, like how long did it take for people to adopt it? Was it something quick or just something you had to keep consistently talking about before people kind of bought into the identity?

It took a minute, mostly because at first I tried to force it. So the original name of the company was like Move and Manifest, like some old LLC. And at your event I thought I needed an identity. So I tried to say like Move and Manifestors. And that wasn't sticking. Like, who would want to call themselves that? Which is like, never try and force a brand identity on your clients. Then I started saying Freedom Queen. I am a Freedom Queen. And that's what I was teaching people to do, how to manifest freedom. And it took a while. Like, this is what I teach at Freedom Queen Live, the power of one. I built a multimillion-dollar company off of the power of changing one woman's life, bringing them into this identity of Freedom Queen, and then it compounds. But it, it definitely took time. But that's something that I love about movements is that they do compound. Like I'm in year 5 of my business, we're doing better than any year, any year in the last 5 years. And it's because of what you teach with movements compound. If I was still a regular coach, my business wouldn't be where it is today.

Yeah, I think it's interesting. I see a lot of people who've tried to take that concept. We talk about building identity and they'll try it for a little bit and then they just kind of walk away from it. They forget about it. And so I think it's interesting that for you it's like a consistent thing as well. And then like over the time, the consistency of it is when people start like adopting it and it becomes a bigger thing and a bigger thing. And then like you said, now it's really cool watching because your events tied to that, to that, like all the pieces are tied back to that, that concept. And it gives everyone like the, the collective, like, like that thing that draws a community together is like that. They're all one person. We're funnel hackers, we're, you know, whatever, whatever the thing is. So I think that's That's cool. So you built the identity and then from there, like, when did you like, like what was the next thing? Like, were you doing events right away or were you doing more group coaching or courses or what was the next piece in the puzzle for you?

After Funnel Hacking Live, the first one I said, so that was like September. I was like, I'm going to host a retreat. So I came back to Costa Rica where I was living at the time, and I had like 2 months to sell out this retreat.. And I just went ham, like nonstop showing up, doing lives. I was doing Your Perfect Webinar, pitching the retreat and this 5K 3-month program live, like all the time, nonstop implementing everything from FHL. And I sold out that first retreat. Now I had just seen you do a pitch at your event. And so I was like, well, I'm gonna do a pitch at my event. So at my, I'm literally just like, what is Russell doing? I'm gonna implement this. So at my first retreat, Costa Rica, I have 8 women in front of me. Out of the 8, like 50% of them had already purchased a program. So there's like 4 qualified people in this room to take the Ascension offer. And so the night before I'm working on my slide deck, cuz that's what Russell does. So I was like, I'm gonna do that. And so I'm working on my slide deck and I go to pitch the offer and I'm in the bathroom before doing the Tony Robbins breath, like And I have a $12K offer that I'm selling for 6 months and I'm so nervous to sell this. And my now fiancé, before I go out, because like what you did was like you had a setter and you got everyone to raise your hands. And so Robbie's out in front of the 8 people like, raise your hand if you're a Freedom Queen and raising their hands. It's so amazing. And I go out there and I make the pitch and 3 people bought the $12K offer and that was life-changing for me. $36K in that moment.. And I was like, hey, I can do this. That was one of the first times where I really realized that I can bring people into the movement. And that retreat, everyone stood around me in a circle and said, I'm a freedom queen. And then I made that offer and I was like, okay, I really understand the power of this. And many of those clients that bought that are still working with me to this day.

That's so cool. What was the price for them to come to the first Costa Rica event?

I was super— oh my gosh, it was like $1,500, I think, for the weekend. Or you could get it included in the 5K package when you paid in full.

Yeah. So cool, man. That's such a cool thing. I'm curious for you. One of my friends, she kind of followed a similar path when she launched her first thing. She sold afterwards. It was great. But then the thing that she created ended up like She had like, you could come to my house 3 times during the year. And so she had like each individual, like she didn't close in like really good numbers, but the fulfillment became so overwhelming that she like went through depression and ended up shutting it down. Because like, how was the fulfillment side after you'd done that? Because I think a lot of people get scared. Like, if I used to sell a $12,000 thing, like, how do I do that in a way that's not going to break me? I'm curious how you structured that and if you had any issues with that or if it was pretty, pretty simple afterwards.

Well, that is, you know, I had just started really building a movement. This wasn't really like the forward or front-facing of my marketing. This was just an idea that I was implementing. I wasn't yet teaching people how to build movements. And so at that time, it was still really access to me that I was selling, selling my coaching time. I was still doing a lot of done-for-you work. Like, with some of my clients, I would do sales calls with them. Like, it was a lot of me. And it was around my second year in business, actually after the second FHL, when I committed, I'm gonna walk that stage next year, I realized that I needed to lead with movements in a bigger way because I started to see my income grow because I stopped saying— this is really important if you want to scale with not your time or not you as the asset, but the movement being the asset. I stopped saying hire Bridget, work with me, and I started saying become a Freedom Queen, join the Freedom Queen movement. It was like the big domino. Once I knocked that down, the brand identity and the pathway to transformation with the shared vision I'm taking them to, Once I knocked that down, it became so much easier because then I started launching like, uh, 6-month-long masterminds, year-long masterminds for way higher price point. And I noticed that when people came into the coaching program, they had a different driver. They weren't just coming in because I want Bridget's one-to-one time. They wanted to be a part of Freedom Queen. So then it wasn't like I wasn't capped, like I could have 100 people on a Zoom call and each of them weren't interested in asking me a question. They were there to listen and mastermind and be a part of the movement that I was creating. So I, I like that big domino is what actually made everything scalable for me to this day.

That's such a cool thing. It's so interesting because I, I see that even myself, like I struggle with that. Like I remember when I first started launching my Inner Circle, it was like Russell Brunson's Inner Circle and people would come for me. But then what was crazy is over time is like people didn't stay for me. They stayed for everybody else in the thing. And I was like, oh, this isn't, me, like maybe initially, like you and your personality, I think it brings somebody in, but yet they stay for that community, for the connection, for the movement that's, that's being built, that they've bought into and that they buy into.

That's such a, such a cool thing. I remember that being in Inner Circle, I don't even think I came on to any of the calls. I would just go to the events and tell people I'm in Inner Circle. That's why I wanted to be there.

Yeah. So cool. Okay, so that, that was the next Next piece of it. So you're doing the movement stuff. Okay, so walk us from that to like now the next event in the queue.

So that's when things started changing. When I started saying to people, coaching businesses are where your soul goes to die, movements are where you're reborn, it took over the marketplace. Like it went like hotcakes. Women started coming up to me and being like, what's a movement? And I have this big background in dance. I have this— I love God. Like, I love movement. I love, like, modeling Jesus and what he created. It's insane. So I really started bringing movement forward in the female coaching market, and no one at the time was doing this. And so I would get on lives and I would say, I build movements. And people would look at me, like, turn their head and go, what's a movement? And they kind of looked at me like I was, like, crazy. But I started to pioneer this. Like, I don't— I never wanted to be just a coach. Like, I love the— I think women are really good at influencing people and leading people and feeling people. And I know a lot of women start coaching businesses that don't actually wanna just coach, they wanna lead, they wanna be famous. Not famous in like a Hollywood way, but in like a legendary way where you're changing so many people's lives. And so I kind of came out with this like cutting edge philosophy or way of thinking and my income started doubling. And then every year I feel like I've just deepened the quality and the intention of what it really means to build a movement. But as soon as I came out with Movements, like, it— that's when it really started taking over the internet and people started saying, who's this Freedom Queen person? What is she doing over here? Because it was something new in the marketplace that nobody else was teaching.

Yeah, so cool. When you started coming out and doing that, did you get haters or people— like, I'm curious on that side. A lot of people I know fear that, or they've experienced it at some point. Did you get any blowback like that?

I started getting hate specifically on TikTok, and I can— I've been like, something about me is I'll just— I don't know that what I'm saying is polarizing or that would like hate people. People would like it on the internet. And so I'm like, oh, you need to build a movement. They're like, you're a cult leader. I'm like, no, no. I remember actually one time it was Christmas time. It was around 2022 when I first started bringing this forward. I started doing 100K months, and that was like transformational. I jumped from $30K to $100K months pretty quickly and I started getting hate. Remember one Christmas I'm with my family and I go to the bathroom and I open up my phone and I just start seeing mass hate comments and I cry in the bathroom stall. And I remember feeling this feeling of my family, like the people that I love most who know me in my heart are at this dinner table and they're waiting for me to come back.. And I just remember thinking in that moment, I'm never going to let someone on the internet who doesn't know me dictate how I feel, and that my family, my relationship to God is so much more important. And something shifted after that. After that, like, I became stronger. I didn't have thicker skin. I actually found I got softer and more empathetic. And then that next year was my first million-dollar year. And I think a piece of that was because I was able to just like know who my anti-vehicle was, know my enemy was, that I'm not here to serve. I'm here to serve this one woman, and I'm just gonna focus on her and not worry about this— these haters. I definitely cried in a bathroom stall. Yeah. So good, so good, so good.

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Max $100 cash back per month. That— I had a flashback when you said that. Uh, when I started my journey, I remember my wife and I just got married. We didn't have any kids yet, so this is way back at the very beginning. And we were at her house for Thanksgiving dinner with her parents and stuff. We're around Thanksgiving table and my mother-in-law was like, hey Russell, I Googled your name and somebody said that you're scamming people. Is that true? At Thanksgiving dinner. And I was like, what? And I remember I was like, you know, trying to like deflect and then like find something. I go to the bathroom, went to the bathroom, grab, you know, trying to like— and this is before cell phones and stuff. I'm sneaking back, trying to get online and see. And like, I see some guy made a video, like a hate video. Showed up number 1 on YouTube if you typed in Russell Brunson. And it was some guy who was not a customer. Anyway, long story short, I tried to get him to pull it down. He refused to, 'cause he's like, no, he's like, I'm getting so many leads off of your name. It's the greatest thing in the world. I was like, you're lying. He's like, it doesn't matter. This is the best lead gen I've ever had. And I was just like, and it took him like 5 or 6 years before he finally took it down. And one day I saw him at another event and he was like, he's like, oh yeah, sorry about that. I was young and naive back then. And I was like, dude, you broke me in front of my in-laws. Like I had explained to them that I'm not scamming people. But it's hard that first time, right? Where just like, You're like, I feel like what I'm doing is good. I'm trying to do my best. I'm helping people. And it's such a thing that makes a lot of people temporarily, or a lot of people just completely shut down forever. And so it's cool that you were able to stop that early, 'cause a lot of people, that's the death blow for them, you know?

Yeah, I can say now I feel very blessed. Over the last year, I've done a lot of work and just learning from people like yourself and prayer that, It doesn't affect me anymore. Like, I recently found a video of somebody and I didn't like me, and I watched it and I'm like, I like this chick. Like, like, she's— I'm like, I like her. Like, I can, you know, like, it's just, it doesn't— it rolls off your shoulder. And I— and back then I thought— would have thought that it would always affect me. And now to this day, it's like, okay, this is a sign. Like, I think of different biblical stories of David and Goliath. It's like, this is the sign that I'm moving in the right direction. So now anytime I get hate or anytime I start seeing an uptick online criticism, I tell my team, I tell myself like, this is a sign that we're moving in the right direction.

Let's keep going with this. Yeah. I always think back to like the thought about Christ and look at like what he had to go through. And one of his, you know, in scripture says that Christ said like, my sheep will hear my voice and they will become one fold, one shepherd, right? I think about that for anybody putting a message out, like your sheep, your people will hear your voice and they will become part of your, again, your movement, your tribe, your, and the other people won't, and it's okay. And that's what's hard at first. Like, I want everyone to like me. That's like what we always want. But it's like, no, it's okay. And for you to actually build the movement, there has to be the division or else it's just a neutral thing that never grows and never builds. Yeah, so it's kind of interesting. I'm curious now with your students, you've been teaching movements and stuff, do you have examples of people who've gone through your process and like, like who are the movements you, you've helped develop that you're the most proud of that you like to, to share?

Yeah. There's this one woman named Shayna. She founded a methodology called Body Talk. And when I first met her in 2022, she was making like $700 a month and she wasn't able to articulate her methodology, which is a big piece of what I teach. Like we need to know your pathway to transformation. Your vehicle needs to be different than what other people are doing. She was still positioning herself as a regular coach, like a lot of 1-to-1 time. And a lot of things, a lot of the problems that people have when they're going from coach to movement leader is that they're trying to position for everyone like you just said, but they also have the same vehicle as everyone. So she was kind of just like an embodiment mentor, somatic mentor for women. And when she would articulate it online, it was really vague. Like, I was like, Sheena, this doesn't make sense. Like, you sound like everyone else. We need to make you different. And so she started her own methodology called BodyTalk, and people started really getting into that. And she started doubling down on the specific methodology, which is essentially in your body increasing your capacity to hold more without talking, just using your physical body language and movement. And once we got that down, the specific name of her movement, BodyTalk, plus the methodology and who she's targeting, she specifically targets women who are more spiritual, more somatic, more EI type of work, it started taking off. And last year she just had a $100K week. She launched her Body Talk book and became a bestselling author with the book. And then I had the honor— she hosted her first event in Mexico this year in January. She had 100 people sign up. She did a live pitch from stage that I coached her on, and I got to speak at her event and set her up for her offer. And so now she's working on an app. Like, it's just, it's incredible to see her grow like that.

I'm curious for you, I know when we succeed and we win, it's always fun, but like seeing our people succeed is, it's just different, it's better. I'm curious, like for you, what was that like seeing her on stage? Like you're helping support her, you're at her event. Like what did that feel like knowing that you were the, you know, helped plant that seed and grow it to what it became, what it's going to become?

I mean, it was the best thing ever. Like, I was there with her in her hotel room. We're like working on the pitch. Her team is at the back closing. I'm like telling my team, I'm like, get in the back and help her close more. I'm just like, just let's do this. You know, it feels like when you, when you're there with your people, it feels like you're on a mission, like you're on the best team ever, the winning team, and you want to do everything to help your team win and make it be this glowing success. And so, I mean, it was just amazing to be there with her. It makes you want to be a part of it and help her win in a much bigger way.

Yeah, so fun. That's my favorite— my favorite part of this whole game is like when you start seeing them win, it's just like, oh, this is, this is so much cooler than I ever thought. Yeah. Okay. So for you, obviously, if you're a big event coming up, but I want to go back to like last year's event and this one as a— also, but like, what did you do to fill up your event, to get 500 people in the room? Like, I know what goes into filling up a room, and most people I see a lot of people over the years try and some people get 30 people in a room and 50, and which is great, but like getting past like 100 people in a room, like again, 500 this year, pushing towards 700. Like what are the things you are doing to fill up a room to get people to actually come to a live event today?

Okay. Affiliates. Affiliates are a big piece of selling out Freedom Queen Live. And with affiliates, biggest mistake people make is they think just, oh, you can get a commission for selling my event. People don't care about commission. What I've noticed and learned, my number one core desire of affiliates is status, importance, VIP recognition. And so yeah, we give an awesome commission for ticket sales, but they're more interested in— we do things like sell a certain amount, you get to go shopping at Dior because it's very on brand. Sell a certain amount, you get to speak on the main stage. Sell a certain amount, you get to be on the podcast. Like, my people really care about that. And some people say that, you know, if they don't have business type of clients, that their people don't care about that. But that's not true. It, it applies in every niche because at the end of the day, what people really care about is feeling important, like they're valued in this world. And so for affiliates, the number one incentive to get them to sell tickets is status, but also the shared mission. So before I launched the affiliate program, I knew that me just getting on the live and saying, you're gonna get these incentives, like speaking on stage if you sell a certain amount of tickets or when the podcast interview that they needed to be bought in on an emotional level. And so I paint the vision of like, this is what it's like to be a Freedom Queen. This is what it's like to be at Freedom Queen Live. This is what it's like to be a pioneer of this movement. Come shoulder to shoulder with me. We're gonna build something incredible for other women that wanna be financially free and be the queen of their life. And that moves tickets 1,000 times better than like, giving, even if you gave people 100% commission, that's not what moves people. What moves them is the soul and the, the heart of being a part of the movement. So affiliates is the biggest thing for me for these events.

So cool. Are you also doing paid ads and stuff like that or just 100% affiliate and your own, your own, uh, social and things like that?

Um, so major, like I haven't started running any paid ads for Freedom Queen Live this year. We probably won't until October. So about 2 months prior to the event, it's all organic traffic right now. No sales team. We're not calling anyone to close tickets. We're not even doing SMS. SMS follow-up. It's all just through social media and the power of women and people and the power of the movement.

You are practicing what you preach, which is what makes it, makes it so cool. So last year's event, obviously you and I had a chance to vox back and forth leading up to it, but, uh, walk us through that because you, you did the event, you made an offer, all kind of stuff. Um, I want to talk— I would love to hear your story about that part of the, the part of the, the journey.

Well, the first event was rescheduled. So I worked so hard to put on this event. I'm there at the hotel. The hurricane hasn't hit in 100 years, Russell, and it hits that weekend.

I remember I forgot about that.

That's crazy. The event by 2 months. And I'm like, Jesus, take the wheel. Like, I am just like, you know, but in that moment, I knew when I had to send out the email that it was canceled, postponed. I knew that God had a much bigger plan for my life. And truly, I don't think that I would have had a million-dollar weekend if I did that first event in September. I don't— the success— I have full chills. The success of that event in November, it wouldn't have been like that in September had this not have happened. And it taught me a lot. And I went through a lot of problems and challenges and hate, and it made me stronger. And it actually built a stronger movement because my people rallied with me. Like, I would get emotional. I've never seen women rally like this for a leader and a group of people while there was like mass hate and evacuations happening. And all these women are coming together like, no, we can do this. We're going to make the event so much better. And so by the time I got to the event in November, I had felt like I just walked through it. I walked through the biggest storm of my life in business at that time. Massive online hate, huge, you know, canceling an event. It's like there's big costs going out.. And at what felt like the bottom was actually the top in so many ways. And so then when I stood on that stage at Freedom Queen Live and sold the offer, I had no fear because it was like I had just walked through some of the craziest things in my life that standing on stage and making an offer is the easiest thing that I could do to sell to them. And, and what's so cool is we had so many people join that offer and now they're gonna walk the stage this year, speak on stage and share their massive wins.

But that was, Nuts. I completely forgot about that. Did you get a lot of blowback? People in your— I had to— because I'm imagining people had flights and hotels and all that kind of stuff, and, um, probably some non-refundable.

Like, how did that part of it all work out? So it was pretty much 50/50, and this is where I say God had a much bigger plan for my life. What that ended up doing was wiping a lot of people that were coming to the event for the wrong reason. They weren't actually bought into Freedom Queen. They weren't a part of the movement. I had also sold tickets. I learned a lot. I, I sold tickets at too low of a price point for that first event. And I had handheld too many people, like, because I was really bootstrapping all of it by myself last year. Now I have this amazing team, like it's so much easier, but I knew like every single person coming to that event, like everyone I felt like had a touchpoint to me. And so I feel the weight of anger when people's emails were coming in. Actually, my whole team got wiped during the situation. So it's like me in the storm alone with God, like, answering emails. And, um, and so yeah, wiped out a lot of people, but it was a huge blessing and it made me a lot stronger in the storm. My, my dream team— like, I'm sure you've experienced, like, you go through something really hard, the people that aren't really committed to you fall to the wayside. And then I watched— I mean, I get chills again— these women come to my support one woman who's now my amazing executive assistant, she runs Team Freedom Queen. She's like, I'm stepping up. What do you need? I'm in this with you. People that I didn't ask to help me during the situation that weren't paid, now they're paid. But so, yeah, it was a lot of— it was really, really hard. But it has made this year's event 1,000 times easier to sell tickets and also know who I'm for and who I'm not for.

Yeah. Interesting way to like, I think sometimes I put out content with the same purpose, like me trying to get rid of people that I'm not going to like, you know what I mean? And so I've done it strategically over the years, but I've never thought about an event like that. Shifting that, you see the people that are usually going to be the complainers, the upset people, long-term, like not dream clients, whereas the dream clients come through and then, and then it becomes twice as good. Such a, such a cool story. Great, man. Well, it's been fun, like, just watching your journey over the last— I can't believe it's only been, you know, 4 or 5 years you've kind of gone through this journey. But I'm hoping people listening, it gives them some comfort. We have a lot of people who are coaches who are trying to figure out the next phase, the next step, and understanding that it's like, it's, it's a progressive thing. Sometimes they'll see a Funnel Hacking Live, they'll see your big event, like, that seems like such a big thing. I could never do that. But it's like you said, the pieces you did, like, okay, what's my movement actually going to be? How are we going to craft that. And then from there we invite the first group. And your first event didn't have 5,000 people or 500, or you had, you said 8, right? 8 people came to the first event and then you made an offer there and then the next one grows a little bit more. And it's like that compounding of just doing it. And, and 4 or 5 years later, now again, you've got an amazing event happening soon. So any of the, the, because I'm assuming I'm not allowed to go to your event. So do you have men that show up to your guys' event or is it all just women?

So we are, we do have some men come. Yeah. And on this, this weekend we're doing a men's day because my fiancé, he's a successful entrepreneur. And so we're going to actually do a men's day. So some women are bringing their husbands. It is mostly women, but if you want to bring your man, bring your man to the event.

Okay. So for the women who listen, or they may, yeah. Um, tell me a little more like when events happen, that kind of stuff, because I'd love to have people build movements with you.

It's, it's in November, November 20th to the 23rd. It's a 4-day event and it is for women who are building personal brands online. It is for coaches. You sell a service and ultimately you want to build a movement. You're not just a coach, you're a movement leader. You're, you know, that God put a calling on your life and that you are someone who is naturally influential. You know that you're here to do something really big. And I would say you call yourself a radical woman, like you have a little bit of edge about you. You don't play it safe and you want to build a massive, massive multimillion-dollar company. And so at Freedom Queen Live, over the course of those 4 days, we have some amazing speakers coming to teach you about charisma and your energy and your energetics. I know, you know, one of those amazing speakers that will be there will be teaching you high-ticket sales because that's something that I'm really good at. No sales team, no long conversations in the DM, just using social media to primarily sell your high-ticket. And then this year I'm also gonna be teaching on affiliates. So how to, cuz women are so good at this, how to use your audience to increase your visibility, your reach, your leads, and also your sales for whether it's an event, a book launch, or just selling out your year-long coaching program. Yeah.

So cool.

Where do they go to sign up?

What's the link? Freedomqueenlive.com. Freedom Queen, FQL. Do your team, do your people call FQL? Oh yes. That's awesome. Well, Bridget, thanks so much for hanging out and sharing your story. And thanks for being someone who takes the ideas and actually runs with them and builds it and then adds your own layer and your own, you know, your own things on top of it. It's just inspiring to watch and see. And, you know, I'm assuming that next 3 or 4 years your event will go from 700 to 1,500 to 5,000 to filling up stadiums. And it'll be fun to watch. So thanks for being here.

Thanks for all you do. Thank you so much for having me, Russell.

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