Lewis Cirne built New Relic by designing roles people actually want to show up for on Monday. He argues meaningful work beats chasing a financial exit, and that a resilient culture comes from making the job itself the reward.
He is also audacious. He is really audacious. You want to make New Relic a huge company.
Yeah, I mean there is—
I mean you are not just hoping somebody buys you someday. You are doing this for a whole different thing.
Then what would I do? My wife would just kick me out again to start another company because I would drive her crazy. So, no, I I built one company and sold it and I have no regrets how that went, but because I talked about my role and how I spend my time, I've thoughtfully tried to design my role in my company so that I love my Monday so much and my employees love their Monday so much, there's nothing we'd rather be doing. I think this is one of the problems with a lot of the companies in Silicon Valley, they think, look, you can put up with a job you don't like for a few years because it will all work out in the end when these options might be worth something and then we can start living the life we want to live. I think that's just the wrong way to way to look at it. I think we should sort of— basically, if you structure your work life so you're doing what you love and you're doing it with people you admire and respect and love, then why would you want to do anything else? And so this is the last job I ever want to have and I want to be doing it for a lot longer. I love to build software, I still get to do that, I still— I'm doing it with— but I love building—
Where did this philosophy come from though? What did that motivate? Was that something— Was it from your parents or was it something you just developed over your professional life? I mean, it seems so simple on one level, but—
I don't know, it's just— I guess it's common sense that in life so many times if all you're doing is chasing the outcome rather than really focusing on why what you do matters, so the outcome might be some financial goal is the only reason that matters. I mean, like, who really gets excited about that? And by the way, those companies where the only reason why people coming to work on a Monday is because there is some pot of gold at the other end and that's the only thing keeping them in the company, those companies don't weather storms very well, right? And startups will have to weather storms.
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