In this best‑of episode of the Legacy All Stars podcast, host Alan Pavlosky curates five memorable clips from previous interviews, each offering a distinct perspective on building a life on one’s own terms. 1. Greg Robeson recounts how his nonprofit background led to founding Christian Wholesale Furniture, an estate‑liquidation business. He emphasizes that a company’s reputation is built on the quality of every customer interaction, that integrity cannot be faked, and that hiring should prioritize cultural fit and customer focus over mere problem‑solving ability. 2. Adapia Dirico introduces the concept of Productive Intuition, describing intuition as a form of intelligence that can be harnessed to make more effective decisions without constant grinding. She stresses reconnecting with one’s “inner authority,” listening to bodily signals, and aligning actions with personal values to achieve authentic leadership. 3. Dr. Claudia Six shares practical advice for couples with children, advocating for clear boundaries (closed bedroom doors, no TV in the bedroom) to preserve sexual intimacy, and outlines her framework of Erotic Integrity: recognizing one’s true sexual identity, accepting it, and integrating it into life. She highlights the harm of cultural expectations and the importance of honest communication. 4. Stuart Greif discusses allyship for women and under‑represented groups, describing it as active advocacy—ensuring women’s voices are heard, pushing for equitable pay and promotion, and confronting systemic data that shows unequal access to capital and opportunities. He frames allyship as a data‑driven commitment to dismantling glass ceilings. 5. Andy Elwood explains the startup Stretch, which aims to give shoppers pre‑purchase intent information via a smart shopping‑list platform. He draws parallels to Zillow and Expedia, arguing that transparent information empowers consumers to save money and make better choices, especially in grocery shopping where price and selection data are fragmented. The episode weaves these themes together to illustrate how purpose‑driven entrepreneurship, intuitive decision‑making, authentic relationships, inclusive leadership, and consumer‑centric innovation collectively enable individuals to craft a legacy on their own terms.
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Welcome to the Legacy All Stars podcast. We feature inspirational stories from people who dedicate themselves to helping others. Here is your host, Alan Pavloski.
Welcome to the Legacy All Stars podcast. I'm your host Alan Pavloski. And today we are featuring a special best of episode with clips from past interviews. Today's focus is building a life on your own terms featuring clips from interviews of Greg Robeson, Atapia Dirico, Dr. Claudia Six, Stuart Greif and Andy Elwood. I hope you enjoy the show.
This clip features Greg Robeson from an episode that Originally aired on May 6, 2025.
What inspired you to start Christian Wholesale Furniture and what lessons did you learn from growing and eventually selling that company?
Well, what inspired me was I was doing nonprofit work. I was building youth programs at the time for kids, young adults, training just for the most part creating constructive things for kids to do to keep stay out of trouble. And sometimes that's, you know, we need roast, camp out, social stuff. Other times it was retreats and spiritual, you know, hey, do you realize there's a God who loves you kind of a thing and deep, deeper stuff, you know, but church and non profit work, we, I was having, you know, was married, having kids and there's a growing family in it that generally that sector doesn't keep up with a growing family. We've got five kiddos and so I was looking for ways to diversify and, and I had a friend who invited me to liquidate a hotel. One of those moments, you know, opportunity came along and, and it was a Marriott and hundreds of pieces of furniture and it was the first big five digit deal that made this, it was an eye opener. I was like, look at how much money it took a year and a half to liquidate all that inventory. But that was the launching point to seeing the need that was out there. And that morphed into estate liquidation. I realized how much of a need there was for people when they're moving all these different reasons to deal with their stuff, which is actually, it's funny that that's part of our current model with seniors and also people who couldn't afford retail. And it was huge market for mid century furniture because it's better made than a lot of the stuff that you pay a lot more for today. And that, that's how that, that rolled. It just grew and grew and grew. Yeah, supply and demand. And one of the first lessons I learned is that your work is your signature. Be careful who you hire your company as a brand, the way your business card ends up on a refrigerator is, by the way, you do business, it's not the bottom line. It's not because, you know, someone got the best deal on a brand new mattress they've ever gotten or whatever it is, the way your delivery guy installs the bed or whatever, you know, it's the, the way the transaction is done. And you can fake that. You know, you can fake integrity. You can, you can do things like naturally. You know, my mom taught me to make eye contact and be polite and say thank you and all these habits, you know, you can kind of fake it. When all your heart really cares about is margins, like all you're chasing is profit that, that you can do, but those businesses don't do as well. The businesses that have staying power and exponential growth. And this is what I learned with this first company was businesses run by people who care about people, they care about the needs they see in the community and then building a business around that need and then following up after the sale to make sure that their business continues to meet that need. That's the difference makers in the business community and any community. And that's one of my takeaways from building that company was don't just hire anybody who can fix a problem, whatever that is. Keep my eyes on the customer, the needs that we're meeting and how efficient and how much of a well oiled machine is this company at the need in the person that we're serving. That was one of the key lessons from that first entrepreneurial venture.
This clip features Adapia Dirico from an episode that Originally aired on August 19, 2025.
Let's move right into what I think is going to relate to this subject. Let's talk about your book, Productive Intuition.
Yes.
It's resonated with so many. What does productive intuition mean to you and how do you think leaders are seeking it out now more than ever?
Yeah. And it is because I talk about a lot of this in that book and Productive Intuition to me is the book that I wrote where I encapsulated all these lessons that I learned over the years about waking up. So it's like it's a little bit bohemian and it's a lot business and it's really about we are so intuitive, scientifically proven from there's more brain cells in our guts than there is in our cerebral brain to the electromagnetic frequency of our heart, to you know, all the way out to like clairvoyant or like clairsentient kind of abilities that we have and can activate. But productive intuition Basically is. Is like, listen, we all have intuition. We're all using it all the time. And if you listen closely to interviews with, like, even Gary Vee recently was telling somebody, like, my intuition to pick the winner because I know how this works. We use it all the time. But it hasn't been in the lexicon, like, in how we talk about business until recently. It's starting to come up a lot more. So you can be productive when you're not grinding. Like, there's the big difference. And we have to think about intuition as a different form of intelligence, and it shows up in different ways, and we can use it to be way more productive than if we were just trying to do it all only from the mind. And that's really where that concept came from.
Yeah, great. You talk about the power of reconnecting with your inner authority. What does that look like in practical terms for a founder or an executive?
Yeah. And actually didn't answer your previous question of, like, how leaders can use it. And this is actually this because intuition can maybe feel a little like, that's not a good word for some people. And that's fine. You can call whatever you want. But essentially, it's. There's an inner part of you that knows things that are far beyond what just the prefrontal cortex, like, mental, even. Like, your memory knows. Like, we are so intelligent, so vastly intelligent. And to go back to my story about, you know, when I was younger and I moved to Italy and I did all these things, like, that was me not listening to my inner authority that was saying, like, girl, like, this is not good for you. Like, you are not happy. This is not going well. You're won't even get into, you know, some of the things that the body dysmorphia, just things that I did to try to, like, have control over something. And there was deep moments where I knew it was wrong. I knew I wasn't happy. I knew, but I would just push it down, push it down, push it down. And so transpose that into business. People all the time, especially founders, they're going off of instinct. They're going off of intuition a lot of times, and they're collecting information. And if they're not listening deeply to themselves and outsourcing their decisions to someone else or to the market or to, you know, to whatever, they're giving away their greatest power. Because when we get back to who am I, what do I want? What do I desire? What is meaningful to me? How do I want to contribute? Like, those are the questions that you can, like, anchor into those. And then you go forward from there. Like, you center yourself in who you are, and you don't let that change you. Don't let anyone change you. You can still operate around others, but instead of trying to please everyone, which is completely impossible, you come from a place of deep internal alignment and integrity. And your outputs and your outcomes, they're simply better because they're more authentic to you.
This clip features Dr. Claudia Six from an episode that originally aired on September 2, 2025.
Well, let me ask you a related question about younger parents with kids, and how do you help them balance their spousal relationship while also giving the best of themselves to their children?
You know, there are some cultural issues that come up there because I'm French, it's like, American parents don't tend to close their bedroom door. American parents don't tend to close their bedroom door. Kids have easy access to the parental bedroom and the parental space. So couples are telling me, well, we can't have sex until our kids are asleep, and they don't go to sleep till like 9, 10, 11 o' clock at night. And I'm like, put your kids to bed earlier. Close your bedroom door. Tell them you're having mommy and daddy time. And unless the house is on fire or somebody's bleeding to not come in the bedroom, put a lock on your bedroom door. That's one of the first things I tell people. And I also tell them no TV in the bedroom, because that's the death of sex. You know, there's a payoff when a couple has managed to not have sex for years on end and channel all their affective energy into their kids. There's a payoff. There's something they're avoiding. And my style is very direct in a very compassionate way. But I look at, like, what's the payoff? You know, what's the payoff of not engaging your partner sexually? You know, you don't have to be vulnerable. You don't have to make the effort to get present. You can just zone out. You know, maybe there's stuff you don't want to talk about. Maybe you have a long laundry list of resentments that you've never brought up. And you can't just pretend that everything's fine and have sex with them when you've got this long laundry list of grievances that you don't want to bring up because you don't want to rock the boat. So it's easier to just kind of like, keep things status quo. So Yeah, I kind of confront people.
In your book Erotic Integrity, you talk about being true to yourself sexually. What does that look like in practice?
Well, it starts with really knowing who you are as a sexual being. And so, you know, for years people said, oh, you know, your work is so interesting, you should write a book. And I was like, well, you know, people have been having sex for a long time. I haven't invented anything. You know, if I come up with something new, you know, I'll write a book. And then I realized that I had this lens in my mind when working with clients, which was erotic integrity. And I often never even use those words. But one of the first things I'm doing, apart from all the stuff I've already told you about, because I'm working on multiple levels, is figuring out who somebody is as an erotic being. Because there's a lot of suffering that comes from people trying to be the way they think they're supposed to be. Hetero, vanilla, monogamous, missionary. But there's so much more variety to who people are. And so I try to unpack that with them. I mean, one simple example is, you know, maybe somebody's bisexual and they just never really gave themselves permission. Maybe they had some bisexual experiences in college and then they thought, okay, well that was fun, but that's not okay. So I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm not even going to think about it. But actually it's part of who they are. And so part of erotic integrity is understanding who you are. It's accepting who you are and figuring out how you're going to have that fit into your life in a way that works. You know, maybe you're non monogamous or, you know, maybe you're a little Dom and you just haven't really given yourself permission to be dominant. And so it's not always, you know, crazy stuff. It's just sort of like subtleties in our sexuality that we haven't given ourselves permission for. So those are the three steps to erotic integrity.
This clip features Stuart Greif from an episode that Originally aired on November 18, 2025.
I want to move on to another important subject to you and I. We both have strong women in our lives. You've been recognized globally for your allyship and support for women and inclusion. What does being an ally mean in practice to you?
Yeah, the first thing I'll say too, in recognition and tip of the hat to your wife Gail. My wife Jennifer, both incredibly accomplished. I'm in awe of my wife. And you know, she's every bit a partner and equal. It doesn't mean everything symmetrical or the same. And every relationship's different. But, you know, I know what Gail has accomplished. I hope at some point you can have her on too, if she hasn't been already. I know it might be, but you should, because she is inspirational as well. To me, it's, you know, being an ally and advocate. It's about more than mentoring. It's about even when or especially when women aren't in the room, whether in the boardroom or other context, of making sure they have a voice, of advocating to bring them in so that they are in the room speaking to their leadership and success, making sure there's equity with parents pay and promotions, ensuring that we recognize that, you know, the reality of, again, if we're intellectually honest, most of us like the historical. And this isn't woke. This is just like just stepping out. Just neutrally worded that men have led business historically and therefore it's going to buy us to the things. Do we not think that if it was flipped, if all women had led businesses historically, not men in government, etc. That there'd be, you know, fewer happy hours at a sports bar and probably better balance of, you know, policies around families and family need and having a kid so that one doesn't have to choose stepping out versus pursuing a career without having it be a setback. And so I think the point is, until the data tells me different, and not just with women, with people of color, with different groups, lgbtqia, it doesn't matter when you look at the data and say there are higher hurdles to capital, to opportunities, to promotion. It's not because women are kicking our asses, like, you know, and I say this not to be provocative. You know, in colleges there's even concern for men now. But, you know, the women still have the glass ceiling, as do people of color and others. And so I think it was a woman who at Harvard, at a commencement address, said something to the effect that talent is equally distributed, opportunity is not. There is no way, if I grew up in a small village, let's say in India, far away from the U.S. in our system, or if I wasn't a white man, that I would have the same kind of access opportunities. And yes, you know, not everybody starts out equal in life, but when you look at the data, for example, women drive 80% of the disposal decisions in the travel industry when it comes to travel decisions, yet they represent only 15% of the founders and only get about less than 3% of the capital from venture.
Yeah, they drive 90% in my household.
I was gonna say it's probably 110. My wife and I are, you know, we work together, but. Point taken.
Yeah.
This clip features Andy Elwood from an episode that Originally aired on November 25, 2025.
You know, I've been dying to hear about stretch in a little bit more granular detail. Tell us about stretch, especially about pre purchase intent. And what problem did you see in the marketplace that sparked the idea?
When you think about the innovations that happen, there are a lot of really good features that get built disguised as companies on the seller side of things. There's a lot of things that help companies sell more things to shoppers. And building any company is hard, but building a company where you know exactly who is going to buy this and here's the thing on their P and L that you're going to change by 5 to 15% a year. There are amazing people building amazing companies that do that, but they're features inside of an existing system. Category defining companies that I really look up to that I have been studying and thinking a lot about in my career are companies that build an entirely new way of thinking about things. I'm inspired by companies like Zillow who thought about the person buying the house as opposed to the person, you know, the retailer selling the house. They said, hey, home purchaser doesn't have good information. They don't have everything that they need to know about this except for what's being controlled by the person who's doing the sale. And obviously that's tainted information. Let's give them access to information. Let's have them be able to make those choices themselves. Expedia. Same thing with travel. The purchasers were not necessarily saying colluding, but they were keeping a lot of information away from the traveler. And same thing with like autotrader and cars.com right? When people have information, it disrupts an industry, but it allows the industry to operate much more efficiently. It allows aligned interests in disclosure of information on those lines. The top four uses of household gdp. It's your home, it's your travel, it's your automotive, and it's groceries. Groceries hasn't really changed that much since the Roman Empire. If you really think about it, we all still go to a predetermined place of marketplace that has a bunch of stuff and we hope that the guy at this stall is selling it to us at a fair price and that it's good quality. But we're not going to all the other stalls first. Comparing and contrasting similarly, most Americans are within five miles of 10 to 12 different grocery stores. And they're not checking all the stores before they make their purchase. They're kind of just going to the one that is close by or the one that they know the manager, the one that has good lighting in the parking lot. And so my question was, what would it look like to give shoppers the information so that before they left their house, they could know that turning left or turning right out of their driveway could save them 20 or 30%? So that where I thought about that was on the grocery list, right? Getting things started on a grocery list. There's 26 billion trips to the grocery store in America every year. And 90% of those have a grocery list of some kind. When you think about the amount of information that is being lost on the back of an envelope or a post it note or in an Apple notes on your phone or a text from your spouse, all that information could be the power that the shoppers need in order to get better prices, have better selection, and actually even have some collective bargaining power if it was organized in a better way. And that's really what we're thinking about a lot with Stretch to create a simple, beautiful, elegant, smart shopping list that if you tell me what's on your list this week, I'll tell you every store close by that carries it. And then eventually we'll build in online purchases as well. And it's not always about price. It's about having the perfect information to understand that, hey, today I've got a little bit of extra time, so I'll drive a little further to save 50 bucks.
I hope you enjoyed today's best of episode. I encourage all of you to build your legacy with intention. Don't forget to subscribe to be notified of new episodes. I'm Alan Pavloski signing off for Legacy All Stars.
