ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, MCS Are Not Psychological Q & A | Ashok LIVE | Gupta Program |

So hello there and welcome back to our Q and A live session. So I'm sure hopefully you have some questions. You enjoyed watching our Facebook live. In terms of is it psychological? And we know it's not psychological but you know, we need to put this information out there and get rid of the misunderstandings about what people think this condition is caused by. So what I'd love for you to do now is just let me know where you're tuning in from. Always nice to connect with you. So just give us, we'll give you a bit of a shout out if you let us know which country you're tuning in from or perhaps which city. It's going to bring up the feed now. Ah, there we are. Judith from Holland, lovely to see you. Tiffany tuning in from Wisconsin in the US saying it's 100 degrees there right now. Gosh, I hope you're keeping cool out there in the U.S. francis from Ireland, hi there. Michaela from Hanover in Germany. Amma tuning in from Toronto. And you know, I am hoping that next year I have the opportunity to come to the U.S. perhaps Canada. I can't promise anything yet, but it'd be lovely to do a North America tour. Tara saying, Alex in Shetland, Jamie in Dallas, Texas. Great to see you. Good. So what I'd love to do is answer questions that are related to what we spoke about in the first webinar. So perhaps questions about the hypothesis, questions about is it psychological? And if you've already done the program or you have the program and you've got questions specifically about the program, please email in to our clinic. We'll be able to answer those questions and obviously we'll be starting our next webinar series on the 5th anyway, so I'll be able to answer your questions there. Antonina from Chicago, welcome to you Henny from the uk. Nice to see a fellow Brit here, Jamie saying we'd love to have you in the U.S. yes, I'd love to come and do some workshops out there. So definitely it's a priority. So we have a question here from Astrid. What about if we have tick borne disease such as Lyme disease now? Very good question. Lyme certainly can be a trigger infection for one of these conditions such as ME, CFS, fibromyalgia, etc. And therefore in terms of chronic Lyme disease, the question is what is causing the ongoing symptoms? So there can be an initial phase where the bacteria itself is causing the symptoms, just like happens with Epstein Barr virus for instance, which used to be the catch all cause for ME cfs. But we've now dialed that back and actually saying, well, actually that's probably just a trigger. So in the same way Lyme disease can be certainly a trigger, then if that immune system and that nervous system gets stuck in that response that we've talked about, then Lyme can become yet another opportunistic infection that never fully gets fought off because the system itself is weakened and it can't fight off various opportunistic infections in the body. And what's the reasoning behind this? Well, we know that in the adult population there are many people who carry the Borrelia bacteria, okay, in their body as an opportunistic infection, but they are symptom free. So having the Borrelia infection in your body does not necessarily mean that you have symptoms as a result of it. And that's the key point. So the reason our program can help people who have Lyme, and in fact, we've got many people who've had Lyme. We. One of the testimonials on our website is from a person from Lyme. One of our coaches, in fact, had Lyme as well and went on to make a recovery using the program. So having the diagnosis of having a Lyme disease doesn't necessarily mean that our program can't actually help you recover. Hello to Mari from Atlanta. Hello to you. Rachel says, does this explain why my lymph nodes swell after overexertion? Absolutely right. What happens is there's what we call this co firing of the neurons. So over time, when you trigger your nervous system, as happens with perhaps when you're exercising, it also triggers the immune system. They get tied together. Therefore, those lymph nodes which are swelling are not because you suddenly got an infection out of nowhere. It is simply the immune system responding. And the vast majority of symptoms that we get in the body from flu or a virus or an infection, they come from our own immune system responding. And that's the key point. Can this program help to recover from ptsd? Well, we have had many people who've used the program for conditions that we don't necessarily target. So we've had people who've healed from PTSD have also supported their recoveries from anxiety and depression. Now, we don't specifically with depression, we don't specifically prescribe it for that, but we know that a range of different conditions which have both a physiological component and a brain component can be supported and healed through this program. Josephine from Ireland, nice to see you. What happens if you have symptoms 24 7? Does it take longer to recover. I'm extremely dizzy. 24, 7 Dizziness is often caused by this autonomic dysfunction. So it can be as a result of inefficient or reduced blood flow to the brain which can cause the dizziness. They can be differences or challenges when it comes to blood pressure. And because of the overstimulation of the brain. There can also be dizziness as a result of overstimulation of the neuronal networks. There can be very many different reasons that cause this dizziness to occur. And if you're experiencing that 247 first of all, I just want to acknowledge that I know that must be very challenging and a difficult situation to be in. And I don't necessarily think it would take longer. When we've worked with patients, the number one success factor, and this isn't putting it on the retrainer, but is actually their commitment to doing the tools no matter what, doing them consistently no matter what happens. And with that faith and commitment in the program, they're able to heal their body. So just because someone has symptoms 24, 7 doesn't mean it's going to take them necessarily longer to recover. They the way to look at it is we don't know what would cause someone a longer period of time to recover. So we just keep going with the program until we make that recovery. Am is saying, do you know of any babies born with me cfs? I was born with issues with respect to profound fatigue. I've always needed more sleep. But now I'm in a full blown me episode. So that certainly would by the way, very sorry to hear that. And there are certainly children who we know have the condition. And therefore once again, that's a proof that it can't be psychological if there are children that have it. We even know that there can be animals who seem to experience some kind of chronic fatigue and have diagnosable and testable changes in their physiology that can't really be explained because once again these reactions are happening unconsciously. So certainly babies, children, there can be an inappropriate immune reaction. And certainly because we're exposed to a lot more pollution and environmental pollutants than we used to be, the immune systems of children can be on higher alert as a result. Now once again, what we don't want to do is make a person think that then that means is going to be harder for them to get better. We have our inheritance which is our genes and our upbringing. But that inheritance doesn't need to become our destiny. So with that inheritance we stay committed to Calming our nervous system, retraining our brain, and moving towards recovery. Margaret from Yorkshire, great to see you. Peter from Sweden, nice to see you. Martha says, can a hormonal change, like the menopause, for instance, be a trigger to developing fibromyalgia? Yes, it can. Obviously, with the menopause, there are various psychological and physiological changes, profound shifts occurring in the body. And we have known of people where that can become a. Not a trigger, but a risk factor to contracting fibromyalgia. Patty saying, what's the difference between a limbic system injury and the amygdala? Depends how we define injury. There are certain conditions where the limbic system actually sustains an injury, where actually some of the physical makeup, like the hardware of the brain, has actually got damaged. We're talking about something very different here, which is there can be shrinking or expansion of various brain structures which need retraining. And certainly the amygdala and the insula are two brain structures that have now been clinically proven to. To be involved in conditioned immune responses. It's the work of Dr. Pachiro Lopez, who's doing some groundbreaking work in this area. Therefore, I wouldn't call this limbic system injury. And if somebody is calling, if another program out there is calling it a limbic system injury and saying that that injury is now being repaired, for me, that's not the way that we look at it. It's not a hardware injury or damage. It is a conditioning. Have children used your program? Yes, we've had parents who've taken the program and used it successfully with their children. Great. So just going through your questions here. Once again, please do share this on other groups. It's always great to let more people know and understand this new hypothesis as to what might be causing this. All right, so Martha, actually talking about, can fibromyalgia have a hormonal cause. For me, it started after the menopause that caused a lot of muscle pain. Now, there are particular muscles. Now particular kinds of pain in my muscles give an overstressed reaction and make the pain worse. Right. So, yeah, that can be a trigger. And once again, what we want to do is not focus too much on what triggered it. There is some kind of trigger that has occurred. Now we understand that. Let's focus on retraining that reaction. France is asking about the psychological components of this condition. And, you know, once again, it's medicine that splits the different categories. This is the immune system. This is part of the hospital that deals with the immune system. This is the psychology department. This is the endocrinology department, etc. Everything is separated and it's recognizing that that's an artificial separation. Are we saying the condition is psychological? No. Are we saying that psychological processes could impact on our recovery? Yes. If we, for instance, are not pacing ourselves and we are getting stressed and anxious and depressed, absolutely. That will have an impact on our nervous system and our immune system and have a knock on effect on our symptoms. But that is also true for many different illnesses that people encounter. Tracey, saying I find a virus takes me from mild to moderate me CFS symptoms to bedridden. It's just taken me six months to recover and get back to work. Can you explain what's happening here in relation to the hypothesis? Well, Tracey, I'm not sure if this is just a one off or you've said that you, you had it, you recovered, and then another virus came along. Now, if another virus came along and we were in the same levels of stress that we had in the previous episode, then the brain is simply reenacting the same process again, where we've got a lot of stress, so that Castle is vulnerable, we have a lot of stress. And that stress then means that the nervous system and the immune system overreact and it learns that reaction. So in the same way, we may have healed and recovered, but if we don't watch our stress levels, whether it's mental, physical or emotional stress, then a new virus may come along and we may reenact the same scenario again. And that may be what is causing that. And to support your recovery, just keep going. And I know that's my mantra. Keep going with the program. It's the only game in town. What other choice do we have? When we keep going with the program, when we keep committing and persevering, then eventually the brain has to get the message to come out of this survival response. Okay, so just looking at some new questions here. Dina Ross, please explain why people with various infections, bacterial infections, are not affected by them. Right. So what we're saying is we are constantly bombarded by bacterial infections and viral infections. Whether they actually create symptoms in the body depends on how strongly the immune system needs to be triggered to fight it off. So our system is in a delicate state of balance, just like we described with Rocky here. Our nervous system and our immune system is at a delicate state of balance. And if we get an infection, there can be just a slight triggering of the appropriate response in the nervous system and the immune system to fight that off, fight off those opportunistic infections. However, sometimes, let's say with Epstein Barr, there is a strong reaction to fight it off for a long period of time. And the more that our system is vulnerable and the more stressed we are during that period, the longer it takes for the infection to be fought off and to be brought to a very background level, which means that Rocky is on his side for much longer. Then eventually when he comes back to his center, the system is traumatized and keeps staying in that triggered state. What we're getting at is that those particular infections can be found in the blood of many different people, but it doesn't mean that they have the symptoms of a chronic immune response. So X does not equal Y. Having the Borrelia bacteria in your body doesn't necessarily mean that, that you're going to have the myriad of symptoms that comes with it. What matters is has the system now gone into an altered over defensive state. And that's why not everyone who gets the Lyme bacteria goes on to become turning into a chronic condition. Patty asking, does your program help us to be able to get more foods back? Yes. So when the system is in this hypersensitive state, it will reject foods that it thinks are not helpful. And that makes logical sense. Right? So if we are in a protective state, a survival state, the brain may make decisions to say that food I'm a bit sensitive to. So an example would be wheat and dairy. We know that wheat and dairy, even in the general population, is a bit harder to digest. And often with this condition, we find that wheat and dairy, a lot of our clients become more sensitive to those foods. They can still eat them, but they feel sluggish and heavy and horrible afterwards. And that may also be to do with Candida growth as well. So we encourage people to reduce those foods. And there can be some other foods which are actually very healthy foods that the brain starts rejecting randomly. People find with a program, over time, as they heal, they're able to introduce a lot of these foods back into their diet and perhaps someone can share that, their experiences of it coming back. I think, Margaret, you're just staying there. It has done for me, Patty. Yep. So it's allowed you to reintroduce those foods. Good. So once again, please do share this. Give us a, like, give us a thumbs up or a heart. Always nice to see those across the screen. And please do share this across your social media channels. And anyone that you know that's suffering from the condition, it's always great for people to, to understand this new way of looking at the condition. So all it's left for me to do is say thank you for watching. I hope you do. If you haven't already, join our free trial@guptaprogram.com and I hopefully will see you soon, perhaps at a Face to Face workshop, perhaps in the US perhaps in our webinar series starting on Monday 5th August. And once again, whatever you're experiencing, I want to give you that hope that so many people do heal from this condition. Whatever you read, all the negative stuff you read, lots of people get better, and I believe that you have that ability, too. So never give up that hope that somehow you can't get better. And even if you've used the Gupta program or some other similar brain retraining program, just recommit, keep going, get back into it. Just because you've had a dip, it doesn't mean that you can't go on to make another recovery. A dip doesn't mean that Gupta's program hasn't worked. It simply means that the brain's got overstimulated, overexcited again, and created this defensive response. So keep going. I really believe in you and you can do this. So thank you for watching and I'll see you soon. Goodbye.