GA 577 | The Potential for Personal Transformation with Patrick Adams

We have to think about, you know, the experiences that have shaped their beliefs, what are their beliefs, what are their values, and that's what's determining their actions. So if you want different results, you want a different outcome, you gotta have different actions. And if you want different actions, you gotta have different beliefs.

Today, I am very excited to welcome Patrick Adams to the show. And, well, I just got done recording the interview, and my head is still spinning a little bit. It was, wow. It's a different type of interview. I mean, Patrick's a big, lean guy and, you know, we could throw down on any sort of lean topic you ever could imagine. But today we. We dig deep into Patrick's story, and when I say deep, I mean deep. We. We really just kind of get into who he is and how he's become who he is today. And in order to do that, we had to go through some really difficult times that Pat experienced as a. As a young person and a young adult. And so he sort of just walks us through his personal story of. Of transformation, really. That's all I can call it. And I don't want to talk too much about the intro because I'm going to screw it up because it's. It's just too powerful and words are really hard for me to come up with right now to describe what just happened. So I'm just going to let it play out and let you listen to it. I'd ask you to listen to this whole thing because towards the. I would say towards the end is Patrick really opens up about sort of some of his personal testimony. So show notes can be found over@gemba podcast.com. look for episode five. 77 again, gembapodcast.com and look for episode 577. Okay, enough from me. Let's get to the show. Patrick, welcome to the show. How's it going?

Hey, it's going good. I am excited to be here. This is. This is my second time on the show. So excited to be back. Looking forward to chatting it up with you.

Yeah, man, I'm excited as well. What episode were you on before? I didn't look it up. I can't remember. Do you remember?

It was. It was right after I published my book Avoiding the Continuous Appearance Trap. So I don't remember the episode number, but it was. It was. Probably would have been. Yeah, just a few years ago now, so.

Well, yeah, I find it. I found it. 354 avoiding continuous appearance trap with Patrick Adams. 354. So, yeah, we'll link that up in the show notes in case people didn't get that first one and they can have a double decker of Patrick.

Perfect.

Where are you calling in from?

I am in Michigan, the beautiful state of Michigan. It's. It's starting to warm up here, but a little chilly today. It's that. That time of year in Michigan where it's hit or miss on whether you're wearing a T shirt and shorts or a sweatshirt and. And stocking caps, so.

Or maybe both in the same day.

Right? That's true. Yeah. That is true. It's not uncommon to see someone wearing shorts and a sweatshirt. Yeah, that's.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. Awesome. All right, well, hey, Patrick, I know you know the drill. We like to get things started with our guests sharing a quote. So what do you got?

Yeah, so I got a quote from Norman Peel, and the quote says, the more you practice the art of thankfulness, the more you have to be thankful for. And I think it's. For me, that's just a. It's a reminder of the importance of gratitude and just being thankful for the things that we have recently had. Was able to hold my family first grandchild in my arms, and it was just a reminder of the. So many things that I've been blessed with and just the. The importance of remembering that. That we are blessed. Very blessed.

Yeah. And we were chatting before we hit record, I. And I. I mentioned that I'm. I'm about 4ish. Well, as a time of this recording, I am four months or so behind you on First Grand, Baby.

So, man, we're excited for it. It's. It's crazy. It's just a totally different feeling. You know, I've had. I have three kids, and it's like every time my daughter sends me a picture of our grandson, I just am like, all smiles. Like, it's just. It sends this feeling of just. I don't know, just, just. Just a different type of love that you get from a grandkid. So I'm excited.

Ah, can't wait. Awesome. All right, well, hey, Patrick, I know. I know you've been on before. A lot of people already know who you are. But just in case folks aren't familiar with Patrick, tell us a little bit about yourself, about your background, what you're up to these days and all that kind of good stuff.

Yeah. So I. My little bit about my background, I spent eight years in the Marine Corps, and when I got out of the Marine Corps, I landed a job as a production supervisor at a plastics plant here in Holland, Michigan. And I just fell in love with manufacturing, and I spent a number of years working in operations management, and then also as a lean coach. I was fortunate landing at a company where, as a supervisor over a well department, our area was chosen to be a model cell for the company that was just starting on their lean journey.

Oh, good.

And so I was very fortunate to be involved in that. I didn't know anything about continuous. The person's name that they hired, his name was Justin, so we called him Justin. Time for all of you. But now I was very fortunate to work under him for a while and then landed a job because of the work there. Landed a job as a plant lean manager at a company that had an amazing lean culture and just continued to develop my skill set. Worked for a lot of really, really great coaches, and then, you know, about eight years ago now, stepped out on my own to help companies develop their own. Develop their own internal capabilities and hopefully, you know, work down the lean transformation journey and have some really, really good, measurable results. So that's what I've been doing since, and it's been a blast.

Nice. Nice. Very good. All right, well, I'm really excited for today's topic, and I want to maybe just kind of kick things off with. I know that you. You're passionate about, well, about people and change and all the rest of it, but wondering if you just. What's it mean to you to empower and equip people for. For positive change?

Yeah, that is my life's purpose, and it has since been adopted by my company as a. As a company purpose and mission to really. To empower and equip people for positive change. I think everything that we do is so much about people and, you know, whether it's family, friendships, work, relationships. I mean, no matter where you are or what you're doing, you're working with people. And, you know, for me, it became kind of a something inside me that was developed over time because I had. As a. As a young person, I had some. Some struggles and challenges in my life, and I had a certain number of individuals that poured into me and they empowered me and they equipped me. And it wasn't until later in life that I look back and I was like, I wouldn't be where I'm at today without those individuals that cared enough to and were genuine, genuinely cared about me and my future. And so there was a point in my life where I said, man, I need to do that for other people. And so I adopted that as my own personal purpose. But then as Lean Solutions began to grow and develop, it was something that I said, this has to be a cornerstone of, of what we do at Lean Solutions, and it needs to be about the people. Yeah, obviously we, we work in, in many different process steps, lots of different companies and industries, but at the end of the day, if, if we're not making a positive impact on people, then, then why are we here?

Yeah, no, for sure. Well, you're sort of kind of hinting at that. I don't want to pry into your personal life too much, but, I mean, I do know, I know you from just knowing you, but I wonder if you'd be open to sharing maybe just from a personal side, you know, some experiences and transformation that I know that you've gone through.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So if I go back, I'm not, I won't get too, too detailed here, but I grew up in a really, really tough home environment. And when, when I was younger, my, you know, my dad left at a really young age and my home was. I was experiencing a lot of abuse, neglect in the home. There were a lot of drugs and alcohol, and it was a tough, tough place to grow up. And, you know, honestly, those experiences as a young child started to kind of create certain beliefs in me about other people, about life, about how to approach certain situations. And, you know, those experiences turned into beliefs which then led to certain actions that, you know, had had me heading down the wrong path. And I got involved with drugs and alcohol. I, I was. Even jumped into a gang at one point. I was running the streets, living on the streets, really getting into a lot of trouble. And I was in and out of runaway homes in middle school and, and by age of 14, I ended up in rehab. And it was at that time in my life when my dad actually, who had been living out of state, removed from my life growing up, he came back into Michigan and got custody of my brother and I and, and brought us to, to his house. And it was like a total, like the pendulum swung in the total opposite direction we went from having no rules, you know, running the streets, doing whatever we wanted to you. We had, we had to do one hour of homework every night, two hours on the weekends. We had to choose two sports that we had to play. We had to completely change our groups of friends. It was, it was tough. I mean, if you can imagine, like, going from one to the opposite, you know, it was like, for me, you know, I still remember the point when I was like, I'm not going to do this. Like, you Know, I'm. I'm out. And I remember leaving the house and running away, which is what I did as a kid. You know, I was. Again, my beliefs that I grew up with, the values that I grew up with, pointed me in the direction of just running away, and that was the action that came out of that. And for the first time in my life, my dad ran after me. Someone ran after me, and it was my dad, and he chased me down. And I remember him sitting me down on the curb.

How old were you when I was.

This would have been 14, 15 years old. It was. He, he. When he got custody of my brother and I, he pulled me out of rehab and brought me to his house with. At 14, 15 years old. And yeah, so he sat me down on the curb and he said, you're not going to run away from your problems anymore. You're going to face your problems, and we're going to deal with this. It's going to be difficult, but we're going to deal with it together. And that was a turning point for my life because I, you know, I had these certain beliefs about things, and because of this, this massive change in direction, you know, where I had someone that was now leading my life or helping to coach me through, and he was teaching me different beliefs, different values. And so slowly my actions started to change. It took a lot of work, but things started to change, you know, and that was really a turning point for me growing up. So I talked about the earlier, I talked about the individuals that, you know, poured into my life. The really cool thing about when I was growing up and I, you know, when I was living with my mom and I was having all these problems, there was one thing that was constant in my life as a kid before I, Before I moved in with my dad, and it was the summer camp that I would go to every summer. I would go to the local ymca, I would get candy bars, and I would go door to door, and I would sell enough candy bars to get me to summer camp because we couldn't. We didn't pay. We couldn't pay for it at that time. But I would get. I would sell enough candy bars and I would get to summer camp. And then the counselors at the summer camp were, were. They knew about my home life, and so they would spend extra time with me. They would, you know, take me, take me aside, they would talk with me. They would. They. They just spent some extra time with me. And then after summer camp, these same counselors would come and find me wherever I was on the streets and they would, you know, take me to lunch or, you know, take me to. To the local ymca, play racquetball or whatever it was. And they spoke into my life. And, you know, each time that we were together, they were that. That one positive piece in my life. So when my dad came back into my life, it was like, you know, I had, I had that and then I had these counselors and it was like these. All these positive male role models that I needed. You know, at this point, really my, My development as a. As, I guess as a positive individual, my, you know, as a. This different path, this change really started to accelerate. And, you know, I still struggled, still had a lot of troubles, but it was those things that really helped put me on the right path. And so I don't know if you want me to go on, but.

No, Well, I guess I don't. I. I'm. I'm hesitant to even ask questions about it.

No, I'm an open book man.

Something private that you don't want to share. But. No, no, I guess what I'm trying. What I'm curious about is as it relates to your. Your relationship with your dad. So when you were. When you're young and your mom and dad were, I guess, together and then like how. And you ended up with your. Your mom, right?

Yeah.

And your dad left.

Yeah.

And that was a bad, like a bad leaving, like. And did your dad had some improvement in his life that brought him back to you? That's what I'm trying to piece together.

Yeah, that's a good. That's a really good question. Yeah, that. That is what happened. I think, you know, he had. As far as I, as I remember, he had moved to Texas and I think he had some revelation that he just wanted to be a dad at some point and decided to come back and, and then, you know, brought my, My mom to court and because of the home life that we had, because, you know, where my mom was at, which, you know, even to this day, she, she still struggles and, you know, she's. She's a drug addict and, and homeless and, you know, so that. Sorry that life was. Was what I grew up in. But my dad had a job and he had, you know, had a house. And so when he took my mom to court, it was no problem for him to get custody of us. But yeah, I think it was just for him. I think he just decided that at some point. I don't know exactly what it was, but he decided that he wanted to be a dad and came back and, and you know, definitely was what I needed at that time in my life, and it made all the difference for me for sure.

So, okay, how old were you when he came back?

Then it would have been somewhere around 14, 15.

Okay, so then talk about your, like, high school years then. So you're with your dad and you're on some rules and all the rest of it, like.

Yeah, so. Yeah, so it was, it was difficult at first because my, my first half, or almost my full freshman year of high school, you know, I was, I was not in school and so I had a lot of catch up to do, and so he helped with that. But I would say probably one, one of the hardest things to do was changing my, my friend group. You know, you hear the, the quote about, you know, the people that you surround yourself are who you will become, or the five people that you surround yourself. I mean, that's, there's so much truth to that. And for me, that was the hardest thing to do. And I remember, you know, those people that I, that I called my friends, you know, they didn't like that. That I was shifting or that I was. And. But I didn't have a choice. You know, my dad did not give me a choice. And it was like, no, you're not going to hang out with that group anymore. And, you know, I fought it as best I could, but once I got involved in sports and learned that I was fairly athletic, you know, I started to make some other friends that were more, you know, athletes and, you know, played on the same teams that I did. And, you know, that, that helped definitely to, to make that transition, but that was tough. That was my first couple years of high school and, and then, you know, obviously, if I'm, I mean, not tooting my own horn here, but I'm a pretty smart guy when I apply myself.

I agree. I know you, you are very smart guy.

Well, in middle school, I didn't apply myself, you know, and, and in high school, you know, doing an hour of homework every night, two hours on the weekends. Yeah, you know, my grades popped up pretty quick and I was doing pretty good with my grades and again, fairly good on the sports side. I was a wrestler and I played football and. Yeah, and I had some really great coaches along the way too. That, that again, spoke in my life and all those camp counselors, they stuck right by my side, you know, even through high school. In fact, it's funny, I still, one of those guys still reaches out to me and I still, you know, head over there and see him around the holidays and. No, this was one of the camp counselors, actually, that summer camp that I went to. So he's still around and still, still, you know, reaching out and checking in on me and.

Well, yeah, but, I mean, I can't imagine the hope that, like, looking at you now, I mean, not to, you know, talk you up too much, but you're a spectacular human being. And when they look at you now, like, golly, that's got to give them a lot of hope and probably gives them a lot of encouragement to keep doing what they're doing, because you're a. A beautiful case study of what, you know, love and focus and compassion and kicking the butt every once in a while, probably right now.

Yeah, I appreciate that. I mean, you know, life. Life has definitely not been easy. You know, when you. When you grow up in that type of home life, it's hard to, you know, get past a lot of stuff. You carry a lot of baggage with you. And, you know, even, you know, through high school, I still got into some trouble and did some things, but I ended up graduating high school and heading off into. To the Marine Corps. And my high school sweetheart, who came with me, we. We got married shortly after I enlisted in the Marine Corps, and she came with me down to North Carolina. And before I talk a little bit about that, you know, that was a time when it was probably. Actually, I think I was in boot camp when I got the phone call that my dad had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. And that was. That was such a difficult point in my life because I remember thinking to myself, like, you know, what. Why. Why, you know, did he come back into my life and now he's just going to be taken away? And, like, I just remember being so angry at the world, angry at God and just, you know, not really understanding why this would happen. He was given seven months, I think it was to live. And my younger brother was a senior in high school at this time, and he was a really good wrestler. And I remember my. My dad had told him that, you know, I don't care what they. What the doctors say, I'm going to be here to watch you wrestle at the state tournament this year. And sure enough, they wheeled him in a wheelchair into the state wrestling tournament and he watched my brother wrestle at. At the state tournament. And it was shortly after that that he passed away. And really difficult time in my life, but, you know, there's so many lessons that I learned from him, you know, in the short time that I was able to spend with him. So, you know, such as, wouldn't. Wouldn't. Such as, yeah, well, you know, I kind of hit on it a little bit. But, you know, the people you surround yourself with are who you'll become. And, you know, that's something that I've passed along to my kids and made sure that, you know, they've, you know, chosen the right friend groups. I think about, you know, just him leading, you know, just as a leader in. For me, you know, just leading with visible participation, like being there actively, you know, through my struggles and, you know, not. Not just telling me what needed to happen, but really being there and visibly being active in my life and coaching me. And, you know, it's. So people can say one thing, but it's really their actions that make the difference. And, you know, for him, it was definitely the. The actions that made the difference in my life. And I. And I, you know, I pass that on with what I do now and, you know, not just with my family and with my kids, but in the work that I do. And, you know, it's. It's something that's important that we're showing up visibly, not just proclaiming it from the. From the office, but really being there active with the people that were coaching. I think about, you know, respect and putting people first. That was always something that resonated with me. When I would watch him at work. He would always put other people first. And the same thing with my brother and I. We always felt like we were really important to him and even more important than his own needs. And, you know, that's something that definitely stuck with me as well. Wow.

Thanks for sharing that, man. That's. I mean, not many people get on that personal and vulnerable. I appreciate that. Talk a little bit about. I know that you're a man of gratitude and gratitude means a lot to you. I'm wondering if you could expand on that a little bit and why that is.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've been given so much in my life. Where I am today, as I said earlier, just very blessed to feel where I am today. And, you know, I think without gratitude, I mean, you have to be grateful for the things you have. And, you know, everybody's at a different place. And, you know, some people, you know, may, I think, maybe get. Get too hung up on maybe the things they don't have nowadays, or, you know, you get on social media and you. You see all these pictures of people on trips and with all these different things, and you think, man, I wish I had that. I wish I had that, you know, and I think sometimes that weighs on us.

Yeah.

But for me, I think, you know, you have to be appreciative of the things that I do have, you know, based on what I grew up, the. The atmosphere, the environment that I grew up in, I didn't have a whole lot growing up. And, you know, so every single thing that I have, I have to be so grateful. You know, the fact that my kids are healthy, my grandchild is healthy, you know, my. My marriage is healthy, my. My work life balance is healthy, all of those things. I just have to be so grateful for my friends that I have now that speaking in my life that, you know, I have a men's group that I meet with every Monday night. These. These guys don't hold back. I mean, they. They will tell you the way it is, and I'm thankful for that. You know, I'm so thankful. Thankful that my dad had the time that he did to come into my life and so, just. Just so many things. And so, yeah, that gratitude is a huge part. And every year I have to be thankful and for all the things that I have. And I have to ensure that I'm also giving back, too. When I think about the beliefs, the values that I grew up with, which then kind of morphed and changed, the beliefs and values that I have now direct my actions, and because I have the value of gratitude so deeply ingrained in my heart, the actions that come out of that are giving back and not only saying thank you, but also to give back and make sure that other people feel that, you know, feel the. The same blessings that I feel, you know, so that's a big part of what we do.

Okay, so I don't know. I'm just going to ask it, but because I don't typically go here on the podcast, but I want to. I'm just. I don't know if you're called to. Has faith played, like, a role in this sort of this transformation that you've experienced?

It has. Big time. I tell you what, there. So there was a time when I was medically retired from the Marine Corps. Well, actually, before I tell you that, let me. Let me give you one quick story because it leads into this, this, this other point. Okay. So I mentioned that my. My wife came down to North Carolina and lived. You know, we got married, and our first few years of marriage were pretty rough, to say the least.

You got married?

Oh, that's a good question. You just celebrated 25 years. I mean, I was 19, I think. 19.

Okay.

So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were young, okay, so young. Military. And when my dad passed away, you know, my dad was a heavy drinker. You know, among the many good things, you know, that was a tough area. But when my dad passed away, I began to drink a lot as well. And being in the military, it's pretty easy to go down that path. And my first few years of marriage were really, really rough because of a lot of the choices that I made. And I think a lot of that baggage that I had from my childhood rolled over into that as well. And my wife and I had a really difficult go. I won't share too many details here, but I'll just say that there was some infidelity in our marriage. And because of that, we were. There was another military couple that introduced my wife to church. They brought her to church and said. And I didn't want anything to do with God at this time in my life, to be honest, I was like, there can't be. God can't exist based on what I grew up in. And then bringing my dad back in my life and then taking him away, I was so angry. I'm like, they're just. There's no way. So I wouldn't go to church and. But this couple brought my wife to church. Well, my wife came home one day and it was like. It was almost like this complete 180. Like, she. She completely, like, changed, and she was. She wanted. She was apologizing to me for. For things, and she was telling me how much she wanted to work on her marriage and all these different things, and I was just blown away by. It didn't matter how mean I was to her or how angry I got. She. She just poured love back into me. And. And so eventually I'm like, I gotta. I want to know a little bit more about what's going on. She's like, you got to come to this church. And I still remember sitting in the. The back pews of the church because I'm like, I don't want, you know, not sure about this.

The further back you are, the safety you are. Right?

Yeah, that's exactly right. Don't call on me for anything. I'll be back here. But you know, what happened during that. The time is I. Something inside me. Well, I know what it is now, but I just felt something really different about this place. And I was watching, and it felt like these people really believed that there was a God. They really believed in what they were talking about. And how they were praising. And I just. Afterwards I went to the pastor and said, I gotta talk to you. And he brought me in his office and he, he showed me this diagram and kind of walked me through some different things and, and I accepted Christ in my life on that day. And it was a complete transformation for me. I looked back on my life, I thought about those camp counselors and I thought about my dad. And I'm like, man, God was there all along. He was there every step of the way. And I didn't even realize it. And I just thought, and I am fully committed to whatever it is that I need to do to give back. And, and again, it added to those, you know, those values that, you know, I talk about the change in my values, the change of my beliefs, you know, integrity, forgiveness, peace, patience, kindness. I mean, all of these values that just started to well up in me. And, and it was something that really started to change my actions in my marriage, in my work life and everything. And really. So then, now we come to the point where I'm getting out of the Marine Corps and I remember asking God, you know, what, what is it that I need to do with my life at this point? And I really felt led to start an organization that would give back to kids that were growing up a lot like I grew up. And it was at that point that I sat down and I just started, you know, typing out everything that I felt like I was being given about how this organization that I felt I was being led to start would, you know, would happen. And I just took different experiences from my life. And when I felt led and I drafted this plan of what this place would look like. And that was back in 2005, in 2010. We had a founding board, we had our first donation to get our 501C3. And we had a group of six families that trusted us enough to take their boys out on a camping trip in the wilderness away from all the, the, you know, the cell phones and you know, all the pleasures of life. And those kids were fully transformed during that, that, that week that we were out. And since then the organization has morphed into, I mean, you know, it's Remembrance Ranch has, has transformed the lives of so many teenagers, boys and girls and, and continues to just be a, just an amazing organization that's making a huge impact in, in so many kids lives. And so I'm super proud about that. But it's definitely not me. I, I give that to God.

So yeah, now I, before the interview, I actually pulled up The. The website for remembrance ran. So. So you're the. Like, a founder, but are you. Are you actively involved today or. I see a whole big team of people there.

Yeah. Yeah. I sit on the board for Remembrance Ranch, and our team at Lean Solutions, we donate a ton of time, you know, a ton of time, Treasure, to the organization. I really. I start. I started the organization, and I was very involved in the programming in the beginning, and, you know, I. I felt like I could be more of a. More of a support in different areas of the organization. So I do still volunteer for summer camps with the organization, but they have a whole team that, you know, that is going out and they're going into the schools, they're mentoring teens on goal plans and getting into the homes with families and helping to stabilize homes and transform the lives of the families there. And. But yeah, so I'm volunteering on the program side for summer camps. Our team at Lean Solutions, they, you know, obviously they. They can decide what they want to do, but they're all fully involved there and. And definitely donate a lot of their time there as well. And then I serve on the board. So. Yeah.

What's lean? Does lean play a part in any of the. The work that you're doing with the. With the young people? Like, any kind of lean principles, you're just kind of in there, and they don't even know they're learning what tak time is, and they don't do.

You know, it's funny. We. We use kata. We don't call it kata, but, you know, we talk about a challenge. You know, let's put a challenge out there. Where do you. Where do you want to be 10 years from now? Where do you want to be 5 years from now? And then we back into that. You know, what's your target condition? Where do we need to go next? And, yeah, you know, well, I need to. That's right. Yeah. But I want to. I really want to graduate from high school. School. Well, what are the obstacles? What are the things that are keeping you from getting there? And let's work on these. So we definitely incorporate those principles. If you were to go into the Remembrance Ranch office, the visual management that they have in place is second to none. It's amazing. And I love going in there and showing that stuff off because they're so proud of the work that they do there. And, you know, I've put. Put some videos out before about, you know, I go in their. Their trailer. They have a backpacking trailer that they take with them on their backpacking trips, and it's all five and, you know, visuals everywhere and. And, you know, each tote is. Has a picture on it with what goes in there. And it's pretty cool to see the staff when they. When they unpack the trailer and when they pack it. I mean, you got new people that are from all over that are coming in, and they have no problem jumping in and helping out because everything's so simple. It's so easy to see where things go and how to organize it. And it's taken so much of the pressure off of the. The program manager because he. He's like, this is this. It's just made things so easy. You know, they have this really nice visual calendar of the entire year, which they. We struggled for years on. Like, we had so many moving parts, and it was, like, so hard to manage. And so they put together this really nice visual planning calendar that works really well. And then every day I go in there, there's always something new that they're just continuously improving.

That's so cool.

It's fun.

Hey, so maybe to wrap things up, I'm wondering if maybe there's someone listening right now. It's got kids, teenagers, whatever it might be, and they're struggling or whatever, you know, and it's tough. I mean, I got teenagers, you know, and it's not always perfect. Right. So, like, what advice do you have for, like, parents listening who might be struggling with. With their rebellious teenage kid or whatever it might be? Like, if. Do you have any, like, I don't know, practical advice on. On that end of it?

Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say that. That I have not. Come on.

You figured it all out.

Parenting is tough. Parenting is tough. Don't get me wrong. But no, you know, just thinking about my. My own personal experiences, you know, I've talked a lot about beliefs and actions. There's a principle. I think it's called the OZ principle out there. Experiences are what generate your beliefs. Your beliefs are what generate your actions, and your actions are what generate your results. And, you know, inside there is an acronym bar. And so I talk about raising the bar. Let's raise the bar. We might have to. In order to raise the bar on our marriage, on our, you know, kids or whatever it might be, we have to think about, you know, the experiences that have shaped their beliefs, what are their beliefs? What are their values? And that's what's determining their actions. So if you want. If you want different results, if you want a different outcome, you got to have different Actions. And if you want different actions, you got to have different beliefs. And so think about that. What are the experiences that your kids have that have shaped their beliefs of where they're at or if they're young, you know, what experiences do you want them to have? What values and beliefs do you want them to have? Because those are going to determine their actions, which are going to give you the results later in life. And for me personally, I had to change those values. I grew up with some really difficult, bad values, and those had to change in order for my actions to change in the. The moment that those changed. I mean, not the moment it took. It took a lot of work, but that's what changed the results. And so I think that, you know, that's a big one. I mentioned some of the things that, That I learned from. From my dad. But, you know, I always tell those. Those teens at the ranch, you know, look at the five kids that you surround yourself with. Are those. Is that the type of life that you want to live? Are they. Are they building you up or are they breaking you down? When I went into rehab, none of those kids showed up to support me. I never heard from any of them. The guys that I surround myself with on Monday nights, they would never leave my side. And they're successful business people that are challenging me to be better every single day. That's the type of people that you want to surround yourself with. So, again, take inventory of who your kids are hanging out with. That can tell you a lot about the road that. The path that they're on.

Yeah. Wow. Well, this hasn't been your typical lean thinking. Hey, man, it's.

It's.

It's human behavior, and I guess that's right. That ain't lean. I don't know what else is, you know, so.

Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. Fantastic. Hey, if folks wanted to connect with you, Patrick, or. Or Lean Solutions, what's the best way?

Yeah, I mean, you can go to our website, findleansolutions.com you'll find a lot about Lean Solutions on there. Obviously, I'm very active on LinkedIn, so connect with me on LinkedIn. Reach out to me. As you heard on this podcast episode, I'm an open book. No matter what I do, I'm going to be fully transparent. And my hope is that through that transparency, that maybe that could help others to share some of their experiences. And also, ultimately, we're going to build each other up and empower each other, equip each other to make a positive difference in the world. So let's do it together.

Fantastic. Hey man, I appreciate you coming on. Patrick.

Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it, Ron.

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