Building Your Team
9 Mar 2021 · 22 min
Brendon TEST Burchard discusses hiring practices and company culture, arguing that values should be named as actionable behaviors rather than abstract words. He emphasizes passion, heart, and enthusiasm as essential qualities in team members.
Hello my friends. I'm Brendon Burchard, host of the Brendon show and founder of growthday.com and I'm honored to be your high performance coach today. I believe that every day we can be inspired. We can live with intention and purpose. We can bring the joy and honor the struggles of each day to push ourselves to grow, to serve, to be a role model, to lead extraordinary lives. I believe that every day is a great day to grow. That's why I started my company, growthday.com it's an online personal growth platform where you can get me and the world's best personal development teachers live coaching you every week, sharing our wisdom, keeping you motivated and accountable, encouraging you to find the aliveness and the connection and meaning of life that we're all after. If you're not a member yet, please go sign up@growthday.com and join our huge worldwide community of achievers. For less than a dollar a day, you get the world's best teachers live every week. And look, you've probably known for a long time that you needed some expert guidance and inspired community and life changing tools. So please, your breakthrough awaits you@growthday.com now let's get to today's episode. My friends, please listen closely. Maybe you take some notes so you remember these insights of personal growth and share this episode with three of your friends because we all have to share more positive messages in the world today.
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Now let's begin people. I want to surround myself with all high performers. I know they have an identity and a need inside. They have necessity for whatever they're contributing to. They want to contribute to it with excellence. They want to do a great job. They want to see it be like awesome. And when it's not awesome, they're like ugh. And they go home and they feel bad they didn't make it awesome. If you have employees or team who go home, they have a bad day at work, they don't contribute, they don't get it done, the project falls apart. If they go home and they don't be like ugh, that sucks. I wish it could have gone better. We could have done this. If they don't have any emotion to it, that's not the team that you want. You want to Have a team that has vested interests, where they go home and they're like, man, I bum that didn't go better, right? That's important for us. Love for the students, our company, we don't call them customers. We rarely call them clients. We call them students. Because you're all here learning with us. I consider myself a student. And if our people don't love our students, that's not gonna go well. Because that's a mission of our company. You wanna hire people who actually love the customers or clients that you serve every day. Do they love those people? If they don't love your customer or your client, that's not someone who should be on your team. We look for the role model mentality. We look to hire people who we can see having the ability to one day manage us. Like when I have my team interview other people, I go, could you see that person managing you one day? Maybe not managing you as your career, but managing you on a project? Could they be the lead on a project for you one day? And if you don't get that vibe that they could lead you, then that's not the person for us. We want people who can lead and take step up on different projects with us. So when you're hiring, hire people who are above you. Hire people who can lead you, who can manage you, and that will do an awesome service to your company. We look for people who have a passion to take initiative, add new value. We look for people who have a spirit of collaboration. You know what the spirit of collaboration always ends up being? It's two things. Number one, spirit of collaboration is enthusiasm. Do they have enthusiasm for the job, for the gig, for what they're doing? Does that enthusiasm show through? Like, I always hire for enthusiasm, but then two. Collaboration requires openness. It requires openness to new ideas, to new people. And that openness. When people have openness, they have a different way of receiving and giving feedback. They're more in the learning mode. And so we're looking for that. And then finally, we look for heart. We look for people who you can just tell from their demeanor, their character, that they care for other people, because that's everything with your team. One of the things that we get asked all the time is how long are your interviews? What are your formats for your interviews? You know, I'll be honest, it depends on the company that I'm hiring with or for. I'll tell you in most of what we do, across the brands that I serve or the companies that I advise, you need a 30, 45 minute interview, tops. Like, interviews should be quick because you should know what you're asking for by the time they get in the door, either you, your HR company or the staffing company you're working with, they should have already done the preliminary work to see, like when they come in the door, they're already qualified. Like at a technical level or an interest level, like they should already, or a project management level or, you know, you see their library of work before. Like it should be obvious that they could do the job or they have interest in the job. So by the time they get in the room, you're not really qualifying their intelligence or their skill sets or their personalities, because frankly, you could assess all that before they get in by looking at their resume, by looking at their library of work in the past, by giving personality assessments in advance, if you want to do that kind of thing. Some of our companies, we give personality assessment in advance. Some of them are, we don't. So it's up to you. So you have to imagine by the time they get in the room, the whole point by the time they're in the room is that's a few questions to really gauge them on the things that are most important to you. Questions like, what attracted you to wanting to work with us? Like, what about our company or this role made you passionate about it? Tell me about a time that you set a difficult goal and you hit it. Tell me about a time that you were on a project or had a goal and it totally failed. How did you handle that? That gets to the points I made earlier. Who do you admire the most and why? I love that question. Because you'll start to see people's heart come out in an interview. Who do you admire? Why do you admire them? But also who do you want to be a hero to? Or who do you want to admire you? Which is a really great question because it gets people really thinking about how they live their life and for whom. And it gets to a more personal level often in interviews. What do you think would make you successful here? That kind of checks? Have they paid attention to the company? Do they know what they're applying to? Do they know what your culture is like? Have they done their homework? Let's see, have you seen our website or what we do in the marketplace? Do you have any advice that we could already be better? Like, where could we improve? What we do? We. What do you know about us? What could we do better? Give us some advice to see if they're actually paying attention. What project would you Consider your most significant career accomplishment. I just like to say, what's a project you've done that you're really proud of? That was really the most important thing? And you hear and get to see their passion and their enthusiasm and the sense of fulfillment that they might have. We also like to say, why would you like to be part of this team? Like, what is it about this place? These types of questions, they're not the end all, be all questions. You could go pick up any book on interviewing at your local bookstore and see, yes, please go to your local bookstore and see hundreds and hundreds of questions. You have to know, what are the questions important to you? And that's it. That's it. And if you ask the right questions and you get the right vibe, then it's like, okay, because by the time they come in the door, they can probably do the job. Now in the interview, it's all about those things of, can you see the passion, feel the heart, feel the fulfillment, see that they're a good person, see that I have enthusiasm about it, see that they're ready and they're hungry to do the work, see that they're confident in it. We did, you know, we've done interviews in the past with some of our companies. The persons we interviewed, they lacked, like, they didn't really want to be there or they didn't seem like they would be good fit for a team. They were more of, like the individual contributor and they were smart, but you couldn't see that they would be willing to work with people. And you're not trying to hire all the same type of person or same type of skill set, but you are as a leader, and you should write this down. You're not trying to hire the same IQ or personality, but you are trying to hire the same kind of heart. You're trying to hire somebody who has enthusiasm for their day, for their work. The kind of heart that wants to do excellent work. The kind of heart that wants to get to work. The kind of heart that cares about other people. So I was saying, when you're building a culture, you're not building a culture based on skill set, you're building a culture based on heart set. Like, are these people who care enough about each other and have high enthusiasm in their life and for the role? And if you get that right, you're going to create some kind of magic and people won't know the magic. They won't know you thought through all of this, but all of a sudden they'll start seeing it right? Off the bat, they're like, oh, there's something special going on here. And it's because you hired for the heart set, not just the skill set.
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Wellness, before you hire, or it's part of your hiring or onboarding process. Because now let's just assume that you decided to hire and now you're going to bring people on. Or before that, I want you to do number three. Step number three is name your values as things we do. Write that down. Name your values as things we do. What does that mean? Well, you know, the old days, like in the 80s and 90s, maybe you don't know the 80s and 90s. I don't know how old you are, but in the 80s and 90s it was very big. Like, put your values in words up on the walls all around your Office. It was like integrity, as if any company didn't have that as a value.
But let's.
Integrity, right? Or you have another one over here of just like, love or like one singular word, you know, excellence. And it was all over the place. And then there was a big poster with an eagle flying and a motivational quote from Les Brown or something. Right? You remember those. Like, that was really exciting times, and people loved all that stuff, and that's all really good, but the issue with it is people don't own it and live it, because you're not naming those things as things that we do versus just cold words on a wall. And so you have to take all of your values and say, what do we do here that makes us unique or good? And so if you have values in your mind that you want all your people to have, write all those values down as a list. But then write them in a way that really defines what those values are as things that you do. So, for example, when I share with my team, when I'm onboarding, I share these four things. I. I say, okay, these are what make us unique and special. This is what we do here as a culture. So I say, this is what we do as a culture versus just a word or a value. Let me give an example. Like, first one, we challenge ourselves. That embodies almost everything that is important to me in this brand, in this business. We challenge ourselves. That's something that we do, right? We challenge ourselves. And so when people turn something in, did you challenge yourself on that? Okay, did you set a larger goal? Are you going for a stretch goal? Are you trying hard things? Did you challenge yourself with what you're submitting here? We want to always challenge ourselves to develop deeper skills, better abilities, better ways to contribute. So we challenge ourselves here. We're going to push, and that also allows an understanding. Like, we're going to challenge you. Because it's not challenge yourself, it's we challenge ourselves. I'm going to challenge you. I'm going to challenge you. You're going to challenge you. You're going to challenge you. You're going to challenge me? Like setting the context. That challenge is part of this thing. We challenge ourselves, and that's the expectation that for me, embodies tons of principles, tons of philosophies, that embodies hard work and excellence, that embodies the openness to feedback, that embodies the willingness to push beyond our comfort zone, embodies so many concepts. We challenge ourselves. Now you need to make a list like This. I don't want you all to just go and use mine. I want you to be like, what's important to you? What do we do here? The second one for us is we take care of each other. That's a huge one. I've been in other companies where they say we treat each other like family or we care for each other like family. Whatever it is, it's like we just say we take care of each other, and that embodies that. We're attentive. We're present with each other. We know each other's story. We know what's going on in each other's lives. We're here for you if something sucks and you need a shoulder to cry on or somebody to help you with your work. Like, we care about each other is important. We take care of each other. We take care of each other like family. We take care of each other. Like, we're all in this together. And that embodies openness, that embodies the willingness for feedback, that embodies the support, that embodies compassion and empathy and kindness. I don't have to put empathy on a frigging billboard in the office. I go, we take care of each other. And that embodies that word. Does that make sense? That's why I'm saying to you, like, write it out as we do these things. Like, that's the way I'm saying it. Name your values as things we do instead of pushing the values. This is what we do here. We take care of each other. And that one phrase embodies it. So that if someone ever screws up, here I go, hey, look, we take care of each other. You're being to this person. Knock it off. It's not living up to value. I don't have to go, well, you know, we have this value called empathy. And I noticed in your last meeting, you were kind of abrupt with somebody. Like, you know, like, that's not. No. It's like, hey, we take care of each other. Remember? Do you agree? Do you feel like you were taking care of her there? No, you weren't. And it gives you a different language to be real and human with number three. We love on our students. It's everything. We love our students. We want to. It's like, if I see an email and it's short and abrupt to our student, I'm like, that's not how we do this. We love our students. We take the time to write a little bit of a longer email. We're thoughtful about them. We Care about them, we're compassionate with them. I don't have to say all those things. We just say we love our students. Does that demonstrate that you are willing to go the extra mile for them because you love them? Because, listen, our students, they not only perpetuate our mission, they're not only our purpose, they pay the bills. So take care of these people. They got family, they got responsibilities. Do a good job for them. Love on them. Because you know what?
They got hard days just like you got hard days.
So have compassion for them and show that. The fourth thing we do in terms of naming our values is things we do. And you can have a whole list of this as just ours is we bring the joy. We create a positive atmosphere, a positive community. We want that enthusiasm and that joy and that positivity because everybody has had the opposite. And when you have the opposite, it sucks. Right? We've all worked for a negative leader. We've all been in a negative environment. We've all been in that place where you're just doing tasks and you're like, God, this job sucks. Because there wasn't a spirit that was imbued there. And you've all heard me say, you know, the power plant doesn't have energy. It generates energy. I don't believe we just have joy spontaneously, though it can happen. I think we're responsible for bringing the joy in our life. We have to bring the joy into our workplace. You're not always going to have tasks that make you feel perfect and bright and fulfilled. So you know what, it's about how you carry that load. It's about your attitude to the activities, about your understanding of how things all fit together to make the big difference. These are concepts that you share. When we say bring the joy, it's like, bring joy into your work. Even if the work is unloading the dishwasher. Bring joy into the work. Even if the work is as simple as, like, answering 50 emails. Bring joy into the work. Even if You've made your 50th quote card for the week. Like, it's like you have to put the meaning into your work if you're going to be world class and not hope for the meaning to come out of every activity and task. Right? It's so important. It's like Muhammad Ali said, he hated every single workout. At some point he hated them, but he knew he had to do them to be excellent. Right? It's easy not to enjoy everything that you do, so you have to bring the joy to that thing. So this is What I meant by name your values. So maybe you and your partner, your spouse or your team sit down and go, okay, what are the values here? And let's operationalize them with phrases versus words and phrases that mean something to us, that make us unique. Like, those make us unique. At High Performance Institute, that's like, what makes us unique. It's like, oh, we challenge ourselves and we take care of each other because we want to be high performing and we love our students because we're very mission driven to what we're doing and our positive energy really exudes here. So we bring the joy. And it's like, that's, for me, what makes us unique. You might have different things for your company, but if you're trying to hire and you can't explain that stuff, then you're just another person hiring. Like a soulless corporate HR person that we all fear. And I really think that's important because I see that in so many times. And it's important because after you have hired your fifth person or your 10th person, you know how it can get. You can be like, okay, you kind of go through the motions and you don't feel it anymore unless you do these things. Like, because I do these things, I feel the hiring process and my sense of team and spirit in a different way than if it was just like, here's the employee handbook. Here you go. Go down the. It's like, you have to have. It's different. What are you creating? What kind of workplace do you want to come into? And you got to name those things if you want to claim those things.
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