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12 Sept 2024 · 31 min
Brad Hunter talks with Dr. Peter McCullough about vaccine safety, regulatory conflicts of interest, and childhood vaccine schedules. McCullough argues the standard immunization timeline has problems and raises concerns about how health agencies handle vaccine data.
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Now, enjoy the show. Okay, everybody, in today's episode, we are going to discuss a topic that is very controversial. My hope here is just that one or two of the things that you hear open up your mind to look a little further, to not just take what the standard narrative has been. And the topic we're going to discuss is just around vaccines. We'll discuss a little bit of the COVID vaccine and we'll also be discussing the childhood vaccine schedule. My guest guest is Dr. Peter McCullough. He is without question one of the leading doctors in the world on this topic. He has the most published doctor in the world on this topic and has been speaking out about the issues of this for years now. Just a few general facts in history I want people to understand. In the 1960s, a child received five vaccines total. Today, a child receives 72 vaccines in total. I will say that number again. Today a child receives 72 vaccines in total. That is absolutely insane. A child that is six months old receives a hepatitis vaccine, which is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease. Why on earth would you ever give something like that to a little tiny child? And there are so many points to this that are hidden so well and are made to look like crazy conspiracy theories. But the fact of the matter is the FDA gets nearly half their budget from big Pharma. So if you can't understand the fact that that would be a huge conflict of interest. The cdc, the CDC advisory committee. So the people that are deciding which vaccines that our children should be taking and we're making the decisions about the COVID vaccines, the vast majority of the members of that committee have massive financial conflicts of interest. But of course, somehow that's okay. That doesn't. I'm sure that's not impacting their decision whatsoever. I'm sure they're strictly focused on the science and the health of it all. In 2020, 2/3 of Congress received donations from pharma. Once again, I'm sure that's not at all influencing their decisions. I'm sure if there was something bad happening, they would definitely look into it in the news and the media. Over 50% of their money comes from pharma. But Once again, I trust the news. If something was going on, my news would tell me about it, wouldn't they? Maybe not. If their money was coming from the source that you're claiming is a problem. To me, there is just some very basic things happening that make it obvious, that make it worth the time to look into and understand. Just recently, Japan launched a task force to investigate after a big study. They found nanobots from the vaccine and 96 million citizens. That's right. Like, to me, the nanobot thing was one of the craziest.
Off the wall.
When I heard that, I was just like, what are you talking about? They're not putting nanobots in the vaccine. I don't know if the vaccine's good for it, but they're not putting nanobots. Sure enough, looks like maybe they are. There are five states that are currently suing Pfizer. The state of Texas, Utah, Kansas, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Way back in January, the Florida Surgeon General declared the COVID vaccines not safe for human use. So there is no shortage of people out there trying to get this message. But unfortunately, there is a much larger, much more significantly funded group that is trying to stop that message from getting out. So, once again, I hope you can just listen to some of the points that Dr. McCullough makes and do a little bit of your own research on this topic. Because as a parent, I think one of the most important decisions you make is how you are going to follow that childhood vaccine schedule. And I 100% do not believe that the vast majority of them are necessary and the dangers behind them are being hidden from us. So please enjoy, and I hope you're able to take some new information from this show. And I am happy to follow up and answer any questions I have from my perspective and things that I've learned over the years about this topic. And I also, in the end, support whatever decision someone's going to make when it comes to their family. I just want to try to do my part to get information out there to the public that I feel is very important. So thank you again for listening and enjoy the show.
And Dr. McCullough, I originally came across you with a Joe Rogan episode you had done a couple years ago there at the beginning of COVID And, you know, coming into that whole thing, our family was not into vaccines scenes before that ever, before the COVID thing ever came about fairly randomly. My wife at the time had just finished nursing school. She was pregnant. She came home one day and she's like, our baby's not getting vaccinated it's like, okay, I didn't really even ask questions, you know, I was like, all right, well, I don't know. I trust you. You just finished nursing school. You must have good reasoning. But didn't think much about it. I was just like, okay, fine, let's not do it.
What year was this?
This would have been nine years ago. And at the time I didn't like I said to me it was like, okay, whatever, don't get vaccinate. And then ended up having another relationship. We split another relationship. And then the woman I'm married to now, same situation, she was very against them. And so then that was the first time to me of like, well, explain to me why like, you know, I was like, our daughter's not vaccinated either. But I never really bothered to ask what was your reasoning? And so then started down that path of really doing some of that research and understand. And to me it was the first thing that I really did is I watched that movie Vaxxed 2 where they went around and interviewed all those, those people, all those families. And you know, to me it was. Didn't take much research at all. And then seeing that and seeing the reality where it was just like, it didn't take much to get me over but it blows my mind, you know, as to still how resistant so many people are to the concept, period, you know, that just the whole like anti vax, you know, if you even dare say anything bad, how could you? Oh my gosh. I'd say in the first question I would have for you is like, what would you say to people? What, you know, to just get them to take a breath and open your eyes for a minute because, you know, it's still, even after all these things, there's still a decent amount of people who, you know, just friends of mine that you try to have a conversation with and they're still so like, oh, I don't know, I don't know where to me it just like spend one hour researching and it seems so obvious so that my first like, what would you say to somebody at this stage who still on the fence of like, well, I don't know, vaccines are good. How dare you say anything bad? What direction would you point them?
The most impactful book I've read is called Dissolving Illusions. And Suzanne Humphreys, nephrologist Roman Abistianic is the data person and you know, the outline there. We've had about 300 years of vaccine ideology where the concept has been that through the brilliance of Mankind, if we give everyone a vaccine, we can make the body more resilient to infectious diseases that we're inherently frail. But the vaccines aren't perfect. So bread to work. Everybody has to take them and if there's some casualties along the way, they have to take it for the team. And this has been inculcated, you know, in the late 19th century this got to the point where parents were being put in jail if their kids didn't take the smallpox vaccine. Smallpox vaccine, you know, 1870 could not have been purified of contaminants and was grossly contaminated with staph and strep and tetanus and syphilis. People died with the vaccines. They didn't work. This led to, you know, major uproars, you know, protests. Anti Vaccination League in the uk. This happened all around the world. So we've had about 300 years of the medical profession and public in general developing essentially a religious belief in vaccines, not an evidence based, scientific, you know, rational understanding.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, and it's still, you know, I would have thought I had, I had hoped because, you know, we were kind of against them before all the COVID things. So as everything was coming out with COVID and as you know, you were becoming very prominent and you know, more and more people were waking up and listening. That was our like, oh my gosh, like finally, finally there's gonna be this tipping point where people are to realize what's happening. And then now here we are like, I mean, there's been some change. Right. But not what I would have expected. Right. Not that like, oh my gosh, it's obvious, you know, we really need to reanalyze this and that Parts kind of surprise me a little bit. But I would say the one, the next question there must be as far as the childhood vaccine schedule and people following that, I assume there is a decent drop off recently in that has there been significant changes?
There is. The Kaiser Family foundation keeps track of. They're very much a pro vaccine group and people are. Parents are dropping their kids off the schedule or spacing things out. What we know is that the number of vaccines has grown exponentially. And a big inflection point was 1986 at the vaccine Injury Compensation act, which provided liability for all the vaccine manufacturers and all the companies got into the game. Very few vaccines have ever been subtracted. So once one is added on the schedule, and this schedule is approved by the cdc, ACIP panel insurances pay for vaccines. But if people are underinsured or not insured at all. The government comes in and pays for it. It's the only kind of government immediately pays for this. Government subsidized health care. And what in the. The book I mentioned, dissolving illusions. Do you know, all these diseases that we get vaccinated for, we're going away or gone before the vaccine ever came on the scene. Right?
Yeah, I've seen a lot of those cracks. Right? Yes. Where it shows it was almost gone. And then here came the vaccine.
Right. So why did measles essentially go away? It's because we had better hygiene. And the same is true for polio. We had water treatment centers and the water supply cleared up, and we can go through disease after disease, whooping cough, etc. So essentially, they're legacy diseases. The vaccines didn't make them go away. It was improved hygiene. And then we saw a philosophy that, you know, even if a particular group does not get the disease, they should get vaccinated anyway just to kind of, quote, wipe out the disease. An example there is German measles or rubella. You know, little boys don't get any significant consequences like a drippy nose. So it's only meaningful in girls as they approach childbearing to try to prevent, you know, congenital rubella syndrome. But the philosophy was, well, just vaccinate everyone. And then other things came in. So, for instance, the hepatitis B vaccine for newborns, it only matters if the mother is an IV drug abuser or with active hepatitis B. That's the only clinical scenario. But the philosophy is, well, give it to everybody. It doesn't matter. Just give it to everybody because it's a schedule and that everybody has to follow the schedule. And the same thing has happened in veterinary medicine. So the pets are undergoing the same thing. And so what happened is with the COVID vaccines became the straw that broke the camel's back. And these, you know, were genetic biotechnology, emergency use, authorized, not fully tested, and they were just added to the childhood schedule. Right.
And yeah, the thing that really just blows my mind is that idea of something as simple as, like, the hepatitis that it seems so obvious. Why on earth would you give that to a child? And if people can't, like, see, see that so obvious thing, it still just blows my mind that, you know, to me it would be like, that's all it would take. That one fact of, like, wait a minute, that makes zero sense at all. Done. So then, hold on, let me. Let's look at all these other things. And then, yes, to me, it was like, you see, the thing in 1986. So wait a minute. These companies can make these things and have zero liability whatsoever? No, you don't see the blaring problem with that part of it. And since then, you know, the schedule has gone through the roof because, of course, it's a great business model. But, yeah, that to me has been the real thing of all. Just sitting back and like, what. What is going to take? What is it going to take to really wake everybody up and really see change? And then. Yeah, the other thing on there is, you know, a lot of my circle of friends and things are in that realm of, you know, they're not. They don't really believe in any of that. What is it going to take to. To actually cause some legitimate change? And what can the average person do to help push that?
The swiftest way to do that would be to repeal the 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act. And every company is going to have to look at this and say, you know, is there a VACC really needed and is it really safe? And I think a lot of companies would peel back the indication and say, no, it's not for all newborns. The hepatitis B is just for this indication. They would narrow the indications. They would narrow the use. You talked about the business model. Can you imagine if you made a product and every single child in America, and by the way, the schedule extends to adults. So in some circumstances, every adult in America has to take your product. The children can't go to school unless they take your product. And the insurance companies must buy your product. And if they won't buy the product, the government will buy your product. Can you imagine a business model? What if you are selling a widget or any other product where the entire population must utilize the product? It's an unbelievable business model.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and to me. And then just you layer on the liability piece and you have zero liability. No matter what goes wrong. You're not. I mean, that part is so. I just don't understand how a person can hear that and not have it click in their head that, wait a minute, wait a minute. Some. But it's amazing. It. I mean, you know, it's still like.
Well, listen, if all the vaccines were perfectly safe, we wouldn't even be talking, Right? So if nothing ever happened after these shots, they were perfectly safe. We wouldn't be talking. But, you know, Johnson and Johnson just paid out a major liability about, you know, talcum powder and cancer. I mean, we always have product liability concerns. And while we know if these vaccines, for instance, because they've never been tested. In giving them in combination, they were only tested in relatively small studies. One vaccine tested in isolation. Now the schedule is stacking up a dozen or more shots on these children at vulnerable ages when they're very young. And what we know, for instance, is Sudden Infant Death syndrome, which is death of a normal baby just found dead in their crib. No medical problems at all. 78% of these deaths occur within a week of getting a big battery of the shots, and way over half within 48 hours. So, I mean, this looks like a major smoking gun. If a child has a severe reaction to multiple vaccines at once, they can develop a febrile seizure, they can aspirate, the parents may not be in the room at the time, and the baby is simply found dead. And now there's a linkage to this whole sequence of this excessive vaccination and the later development of allergic diseases like asthma, allergic dermatitis, a need for tympanostomy tubes, recurrent infections, neuropsychiatric disorders like attention deficit disorder, Asperger's, autism, seizures. You know, it just keeps going and going. Today I saw a woman who, after a tetanus shot, developed Guillain Barre syndrome, which is a form of an ascending paralysis. So what you tell your friends is that, listen, you know, side effects may not be important to you until you're the one or your child gets that side effect and then you can't take it back. You can't take the vaccine out of the body. People will say, well, listen, you know, I'm scared. I'm scared polio will come back, or my doctor says my child will get measles. What we know there is that five studies show that if you go like you did with your kids, go natural, the kids are actually healthier, the diseases won't come back. And dissolving illusions. By the way, in Sweden, they actually took off the market the pertussis vaccine for about. About 20 years because there was problems with it. There wasn't a rebound in pertussis.
Right, right, right. But it does seem like. So now, I mean, to me, it seems like with rfk, it seems to me that, and especially, I guess in theory here this week, he might be joining forces with Trump. Trump has made talks about it. I mean, to me, it seems like there, if those two were to come together, if there was ever a chance for legitimate change, that that could be right on the horizon.
It could. It could be. But we need some new thinking on this. I'm just the opp. My kids took all the vaccines. I took them all. My wife did. You know, we accepted them uncritically. I didn't. You know, I was just told, listen, you need to do it. Actually, many of the vaccines, I was told they need to do it for my job, including hepatitis B and flu shots. I was even told MMR had to be repeated because I didn't have antibody titers, because the vaccines don't last very long. You know, I did it all. Thankfully, I don't think I was harmed. But looking at it critically now, you know, I can tell you I think it should be much more rare. Risk stratify. We have to look at risks and benefits. So let me give an example. A healthcare worker like me, a cardiologist, we work with blood and body fluids. We actually could contract hepatitis B from a needle stick or a scalpel injury. Hepatitis B vaccine makes sense for sure. If I saw a patient this week, no spleen. They've actually had their spleen removed. Ooh, watch out. We could have meningococcal illness, pneumococcal illness. They should get these specific vaccines for encapsulated organisms. So I think there are circumstances. A child with cystic fibrosis, you know, if they get pertussis, what have you, or diphtheria, they could die. So when we have the risk balance, then they should get selected vaccines. But it shouldn't be a giant schedule for everybody all at once in the entire country, you know.
So then the other part of this thing is getting into, like, the bio labs thing. That's the other part of this whole thing that just blows my mind. You know, it's. Once again, you know, the whole thing with COVID how, you know, first I came from a bat. Okay, no, never mind. I guess it came for a lab. I mean, in this idea that, like, okay, everybody now agrees that it came from a lab that was manufactured, you know, on purpose to do this. The only question is, was it released on purpose or was it released on accident? And then. And then it's like all these other things they're talking about, like, it blows my mind. How is there not an outrage to shut down this whole biolab industry? Like, it just happened. Somehow these people that seem to be behind that are seem to be telling us of what's coming next. We have evidence that some of these other things have also been developed. I mean, so much of it feels, when you step back, it feels like a plot of a movie, Batman type movie, that, like, this evil character is creating these things. But that is what is actually happening right now in the world. And there doesn't seem to be be any sort of talk, even talk about shutting them down, is there?
There isn't even talk about regulation. Did you see the movie Oppenheimer? Did you see that? Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Remember, Robert Downey Jr. Plays the person who's in charge of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. You know, at least there they recognize the danger of working with nuclear materials. There seems to be no recognition of the danger of working with these pathogens and doing gain of function research. You know, I'm on a standing committee in the Sen. Senate in Arizona and everyone's asking what can we do now? I said, why don't you do an inventory of your biolabs in your universities, in your state, find out who's doing gain of function research. They're trying to make organisms, bacteria, viruses and fungi more infectious and more lethal in order to try to, quote, get ahead of nature and make therapeutics or vaccines or other ways to deal with it. The biolab area is so richly funded right now by the government sources and Gates foundation and Rockefeller Foundation, Wellcome Trust. There's so much money, there's not a single university that wants to give this up at all. And the other associated organizations like EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Desic runs that one. You know, when they hold the asset, which is the biological threat, and they hold the answer, which is, let's say, a vaccine, you can imagine the power that they could have in dealing with governments and agencies and negotiations and more grants. You can see the Chinese wanted this greatly. In Wuhan they have this National Institute of Virology. They wanted the technology to be able to do this. They didn't need the US money. They had built this biosecurity annex. In fact, Stephane Bainzel, who's the CEO of Moderna, when he was at Biomarke, he helped build the Chinese lab. So Bainzel knew all along what was going to go on there as how Moderna was so well positioned for the COVID vaccine. And the Chinese wanted this collaboration. Anthony Fauci wanted it, Peter Desig, Ecohealth Alliance, Ralph Barrack, who's really the mastermind. And they did create SARS COV2 in this biological lab and it is a biological threat. Now I can tell you, I looked at all the government websites, look at the National Security Administration, SARS CoV2 is not a bioweapon. And you may answer like, why? Why are they making that assertion? Why would they even bother making that assertion? Well, you know, I Think it turns out that there are some regulatory laws saying you can't make a bio weapon. So they're doing everything else to skirt around that word, to say, listen, it's game on for government research.
That makes sense. And then as far as being able to have the conversations about this thing, what platforms allow you to speak freely about this? Is X the only one you can really talk freely? You know, are you censored on a lot of the other platforms?
I'm not sure any of them are clean. Someone just posted an interview I had yesterday with Dr. Drew, and I was citing the data about myocarditis or heart damage with the vaccines and with the infection. I cited every single paper. It was all completely factual. And then it got slapped with what's called a Community Notes. Community Notes is that someone read it and then now puts up a false kind of counterfactual fact checker thing.
Right, Right.
It's essentially a fact checker thing. So you know what stimulated that Community Notes person to do that? And who is that Community Notes person? Why are they anonymous? If they want to reply with some argument, you know, let them be fully known who they are and let's have a conversation. You know, my concern is the Community Notes is funded by, let's say, the vaccine industry that's trying to promote a false narrative. So I don't think any of them are clean. You know that Google is terrible if you type in, you know, what are the COVID 19 vaccine side effects? The first thing it says is the COVID vaccines are safe and effective. And so that means artificial intelligence is not reliable because they're relying on the products of all these different searches.
And then are there any where you just can't even participate at all because anything that you try to say is just totally blocked.
And I think the tightest one is YouTube. I think my name alone is completely scrubbed. So it doesn't even matter what I'm talking about. I think that's gone. Facebook is up there. Instagram people have tried, you know, blanking out certain words or scratching out certain words, and it goes on and on. LinkedIn. All of these organizations have loads of snitches. There must be people actually paid by what I call the biopharmaceutical complex, whether it's an NGO or it's directly, you know, one of these companies or consultants to actually be sifting through social media every day. We know this because in part, this came up with in Missouri versus Biden. Big case where the government agencies are sifting through social Media and they're prompting others to probably take things down or start to rebut them. They're trying to push this narrative to this day and it seems to be hyper focused on the COVID 19 vaccines. Government narrative is they're safe and effective and no one will speak against them.
And now okay, so you know we've been told from multiple sources whatever that you know suddenly now you know we hadn't had a pandemic in what 100 years or so and then suddenly now they're somehow we're told they're going to happen quite a bit it seems. Right. Which seems like an odd thing that you know, with such confidence they telling us what the next one. What should families be doing to prepare? We have a stack, you know we order Ivermectin from overseas and you know a lot of those different. We have a cabinet that's just stacked full of all things. But what would your recommendation be on it? Because one thing I can tell you when I initially got Covid and then you know it's like when you're kind of sick and not feeling good and like trying to figure out okay what there's. I know there was this doctor that I need to figure out his protocol and trying to accomplish that in the middle of it's very challenging because then the places won't blah blah blah.
Right.
But I think if you get ahead of it and just order the different now then whatever might come up and so what would you say some of just the things to have your shelves stacked with.
Well just to just to finish the thought you said, well why now? Last pandemic was 100 years ago. What's changed now? What's changed now is gain of function research in biolabs. That's the new environmental risk. So yeah, these are man made risks and we've been messaged on monkeypox and our bird flu keeps going. I think the best is go to the wellness company TWC Health and you know get a wellness company emergency kit or get a suite of these kits. They have all the drugs in them. They have a very nice refill program. I advise the company as a cheap chief scientific officer. It's a legal way to get the drugs. They're high quality, it's labeled, there's a user guide. It's better than trying to buy them from overseas and that way you're covered. In fact if there's any questions you can just. It includes telemedicine. You just call the doctor and say listen, am I, am I right on you know, what drug I should take and I think the wellness company, TWC Health. Good way to go.
Okay, great. All right. Any other, you know, kind of words that you. I also noticed what about your foundation? You know, kind of explain to me what that's about and how can we help there.
Well, thank you so much. We started the McCullough foundation now about a year ago. It's got four major missions. One is investigative scholarship. You know, thanks to the foundation, I'm one of the most published doctors in the world on COVID 19 and have, you know, deep clinical expertise, I mean clinical practice, but spent a tremendous amount of time doing research on COVID 19 education and media, like we're doing right now. The third area is legal justice. A lot of expert reports, briefs supporting lawsuits out there. And then the last area is public policy. People know me because I've testified both in the House and the Senate and across the world. So all that takes money and resources. McCullough foundation is a 501c3 organization. So these are, are, you know, tax deductible donations www.mcculloughfnd.org that supports me, my mission. We have a clinical fellow, Nick Hoelcher. We'll be bringing more on. We're the major funding source for an independent medical journal. Its title is Science, Public Health Policy and the Law where the major funding source behind what's called ipac Edu they have independent investigational review boards were able to do research. So people say, listen, I really want to support getting to the truth, you know, instead of ponying up to the donation to Harvard which is right now just. Just supporting the government narrative. Consider McCullough fnd.org okay, great.
We a hundred percent I will be donating there. I'll make sure we get the links to everything out there. And I thank you again for everything you've done and thank you for your time today.
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