Ep 36: Boyd Martin Eventing Workshop

Hello, writers. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the 2026 Eventing Blueprint Workshop with Boyd Martin and his team. As you're coming in, I'd love for you to look for the chat probably at the bottom of your screen. Hello. Tell us where you're from. Make sure you can hear me. I'd love to see who's here and where you're joining us from. Is it cold where you are? My name is Nat Fox and I'm the co founder here at Performance Riders. And I will be steering this ship through the next hour as these brilliant coaches do their thing. I have a far more capable person by my side to help as well. So to get us started, let's say hello to the Boyd Martin eventing program trainer, five star event writer all around legend, Lillian Heard Wood. Hello, Lillian.

Hi, everybody. So excited to be here watching everybody come in on the chat. Hi, Lisa. Hi, Gwen, Julio, Lauren, everybody. We're just, we're, we're ready to all get together and honestly, I can't wait to listen to what the coaches have to say. So I'm here for, I'm here to learn, too.

Awesome. All right, writers, while Boyd is putting the finishing touches to his hairstyle today.

Hey.

He's making sure it's perfect for you. Here's what to expect in this session. So, writers, drawing up your 2026 training and competition blueprint is going to take some time and focus. In this session, Boyd and his team are going to share strategies and ideas for you to take into consideration when you go and do that blueprint, things that move the needle for them and their students. That's what we're going to be covering. Now guess what? For writers who want to join us in, I'm sure you've heard the whispers about this. The very first Boyd Martin eventing program cohort. For anyone joining in the next 48 hours after this live workshop, we're going to take your 2026 blueprint that you do and we'll get one of the coaches to do a personal review of your blueprint. So we'll give you the template, will include the prompts for today's session. You fill it all in and we will reveal for you. So that's for anyone joining in the next 48 hours and I'll give you lots more information later. For now, let's start by introducing our presenters. Hopefully, Boyd's finished with the, with the hair. So of course Boyd Martin is one of the world's leading event writers and hit number one on the world rankings this year. He's represented the US at five Olympic Games.

Oh, four.

Oh, I know. Just as I said that, I was like, oh, what is that number? World Equestrian Games, Pan American Games. Oh, you all know who he is. Very well. Hello, Boyd.

Are you guys. Thank you all for joining us. This is. It's going to be a fun, fun hour here and appreciate it. Nat and Lil and looking forward to hearing what the. The two legends. Breton as well, so.

Oh, hang on. We've got what we've got. Lillian's gonna sit back and learn. You're gonna sit back and learn. Boyd, someone's gonna have to do the teaching here.

People more intelligent than yourself on the show.

Can I introduce you writers to Peter Wilde, who I'm also sure you're very familiar with. Peter is an Olympic gold medalist for the US and internationally respected show jumping rider and trainer. Welcome, Peter.

Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. And greetings from Ocala, Florida.

Lovely.

Yeah, it's nice and. Well, it's not actually so warm, but I can't really say that for those who are in the north because I just came back from New York last night where I was teaching for the weekend, and it was really cold and a lot of snow, so I'm happy to be back in Ocala. I will be based here for a good part of the winter and working with a lot of different riders and really looking forward to this program that we're doing with Boyd, and I've been working with Boyd for five years now, and it's been quite an experience and also looking forward to sharing a lot of what Boyd and I have been doing for the last five years and a lot of the tools that we use to get. Get the successes that we seem to be achieving, which is quite exciting.

Fantastic. Okay. I'm sure there's no snow where this next guy is. I'd like to introduce you to Brett Parbury, World equestrian games top 10 dressage rider for Australia. Brett has multiple national titles to his name. He's also the co founder with me here at Performance Riders. Welcome, Brett.

Hi, guys. How are you? It's definitely not sunny. It's not cold. We're just in the middle woolen jumper here in the Southern highlands of New South Wales. And yeah, I'm looking forward to sitting back and learning. Spending the next hour and a half in a venting world just watching the numbers come in there. Nat, like, we've. We've already eclipsed our dressage program, which tells me one or two things. It's the Boyd Factor, the Peter factor, the Lydian factor, or it's just the fact that inventors are just craving for knowledge. So. So, yeah, looking forward to it.

Okay, writers, so this is of course an interactive session. Go ahead and use the chat as much as you like. Right at the end of the session we're going to hop over to the Q and A section. You might see that button at the bottom of your screen. So if you have any actual questions as we go, not just little comments, but questions, pop those in the Q and A section. It's a bit easier for us to manage. So let's get started. When we're thinking about drawing up our 2026 blueprint for the year, what are some of the key things we want to have in mind? Let's pick the brains of these fabulous coaches. Boyd, should we start with you? What do you want to start with?

Well, I think, you know guys, this is a very, very exciting time of the year. You know, like for most eventing sports and probably the dressage and show jumping as well. November and December are usually the quieter times of the year. And you know, I always get to the, the end of October, the beginning of November and I'm just exhausted from a massive year of competing and I give the horses most of November off. And then at about, about now, about December time, I start getting fired up for next season and I'm refreshed and ready to go. And you know, I think this is it, a great time to have a bit of a vision and a look forward to coming into next year and the next season of sort of where you want to be with as a rider and where you want to be with, as with your horse, you know. And just for me talking is around this time I do a little bit of goal setting. The first thing I'd say with goal setting is you sort of got to have a sort of a long term vision of where you want to see yourself. And to me, I sort of do this in six month block blocks, you know, and you know, I sort of look at my team of horses and I look at the competitions and, and I sort of have my, about, about now they're all, all the horses are coming back into work and I say, all right, boy, we want to do better than we did last year. That's number one. Every, every year I, I always set myself a challenge of trying to be just a little bit further on or a little bit ahead of where I am. I want to, I want to evolve as a rider. Obviously we've got your Horses, and I think they should have their own plan as well. As we know with horses, a lot of things can change. And I'd say with the horse goals, I'd always try and sort of really map a plan out. But then they're very adjustable goals. You know, horses get injury, they might not feel great in their preparation events. You know, there might be. There might be genuine reasons where you've got to shift your goals. So for me, when I talk about goal setting, I have sort of two types of goal setting. It'd be goal setting for my horses. You know, I've got a number of top, upper level horses. And then I'd have goal setting for me as a rider. So for me as a rider, it's pretty simple. I like to sort of be really, really honest. I want to look at myself in the mirror and say, okay, what parts of my riding do I come up short, you know, and which parts of my riding do I need improvement? And I always find that in training, especially in the early months of the new year, is it's very, very easy to practice what you're good at. And you can almost talk to yourself, oh, you know, the reasons why you're just going to work away at your riding of the parts that you're good at. The two parts of my riding that I really want to improve is my ability to do flying changes. I think in the dressage, Peter and Brett will both agree. That's my floor and this crutch by my side for the last 20 years of my wife that bails me out. She hops on the horses, she does the flying changes, and she sort of sticks me on like a little hunter jumper kid. And I sort of sit there and we hope that the competition sort of comes off and long term that that technique is a flaw, you know, like, eventually you get found out. So, you know, that's one of my riding goals. The other writing goals, as an. As an aging rider and a rider that's been, you know, injured a number of times. You know, when I look at me as a rider, sometimes I look at my position and I see a little bit of stiffness and a little bit of. It's not sort of as silky smooth as I. I want it to be. And if I compare myself to the, the best of the best of the best riders in the world, you know, and I'm talking probably more on the flat than show jumping, but, you know, there's a little bit of stiffness in my seat and my position. Again, these are things that I Can easily talk myself out practicing. You know, I, in January, in December here I'm just in a jump saddle. I'm just going around in rising trot and I say to myself, ah, no sitting trot, boy, they're just coming back into work and then I'm down and in South Carolina in January and then I can say, oh well the most important thing here Boyd, is the horse's fitness. No need to work on that. Before you know it, March, April comes around and like I haven't worked on either of these things. So they're, they're two of my goal setting things as a personal rider. Flying to the ability to execute flying changes and I want to improve my position as a rider. Competition goals for my, the way I do that is me personally, I'm just talking about my upper level five star horses. I try and pick their medicine. It's usually a spring five star. I've got hopefully one going to badminton and three going to Kentucky five star. Then I do a bit of reverse engineering. I say okay, well that's my main goal competition wise. What gets me to that goal? I go back three or four weeks before these big five stars and, and I try and find myself a four star, shorter and advanced trials. The ground's good. I say to myself, okay, I'm going to try and push him there a little bit in the cross country and make it going broke at all costs. But I want to work the horse and give it a bit of a physical push in the cross country. I want to practice a little bit more riding at speed and sort of try and set myself up for this five star which is happening three or four weeks later. Before that I say to myself, okay, I want to do one or two easier competitions. These would be lead up events, maybe down a level to the three star or even the older ones. Might even do a preliminary or two star competition to start the year off. Beyond that I'm going to try and pick out some showjumps where I'll meet Peter at. And again these are more training days than trying to win these competitions. We're more getting the horse in the big rings probably down in Florida and get them jumping around big spooky tackle tracks that, so that it's not a, it's not a sort of a huge oh my God. When we get to Kentucky, dressage wise, I want to pick out a couple of dressages and again the most important thing I think also is having a game plan for competition. You know, I, I use a lot of these competitions as Sort of schooling and prep and then talking about the horse. You know, you got you. I've got this mega goal of being successful at one event or in the. The end of April, beginning of May. Fitness is important. Conditioning, like, back now I gotta go. Okay, where do in December is more just getting the horse doing some long, slow stuff, some basic flat work. January, I'm going to start some long, slow, stamina work. February, we're going to do a couple events a bit slow, and then at the end of February and March, then we're going to start galloping a bit more speed, going up the hills, and knowing that I want to get 14 of these faster gallops up the. Up the hills to be prepared for my. My competition goal of hitting the ball out of the park at Kentucky. Now, guys, I know what you're saying. You go, well, I'm not Boyd Martin, and I don't need to be ready for a five. But I think everyone that's on call has a genuine reason for being on this call. Everyone's hungry for a bit of information. They're hungry, and I think it's sort of good trying to emulate people that are being successful at the sport and trying to sort of formulate what me, Bretton, and Peter are saying tonight and then sort of spin it around and twerk it around to you and your horse at wherever you are. You know, your goal might be the aecs or it might be competing at the preliminary or one star level for the first time. So I want you guys to sort of think about what I. What I'm saying, and then try and flick it around into your own self with your own personal riding goals and your own horse goals. So that's my. That's sort of the two main things that I want to talk about when it comes to gearing up for 20, 26.

Now, that's awesome. Something that stood out for me there, and Lillian, please jump in as well if you'd like. But something that stood out to me, and I circled that in my notebook, Boyd, was that the horse plan is adjustable. The plans for a specific horse are always adjustable. And the thing I find interesting about that is that what that says to me is maybe your rider goals are more set. Like, here's where I'm going as a rider. This is my big vision. Horses. You know, horses are horses. They come and go a little bit. Things happen. So those plans are adjustable, but you're really always on track with the kind of North Star for your own personal riding goals. Is that right?

Yeah. I'd say with the riding goals, they're not negotiable. You know, you're saying to yourself, okay, these are the. I'm not just gonna twaddle around in the indoor arena and go for a hat. You know, it's very easy to just go through the motions. I'll give you an example, Nat, is I've had people come and work for me for a year and they bring their horse along and they, they don't get better. Does that make sense? Like, they'll be here all day, every day, they'll work all day, they'll ride their horse. They're great people, they're fun to be around, but they never improve. And to improve, you have to go after it. Yeah, that you can't just plonk along and think you're going to get better. And the rate of improvement is very, very minute. It's, it's. It's sort of 0.1 of a percent every week. And day to day, you don't feel like you're getting anywhere. But, you know, I kind of like this idea of looking back at yourself two months ago and say how well we're getting somewhere here with the flying changes. You know, day to day, it's frustrating. It's terrible because you, you don't. You're putting in a huge amount of effort, and the reward is very, very minuscule. It's nearly undetectable. But as time goes on, if you stay relentless and disciplined and committed to your riding goals, over time, I promise you, you'll get better. And it's sort of one of, like I said before, it's one of these things that you probably won't notice. Session to session.

And Boyd, I had a question. Listening to you talk about your goals for the coming year, working on your changes, how do you balance, you know, with eventing? There's so many things that we have to work on. I, I struggle with. When I come up with a goal. I want to be a better cross country rider. I still need to do dressage three days a week and show jump one day a week. And like, how do you not lose your, you know, proficiency at the other parts of the sport while you're focusing on the ones that you want to improve on? There's just so much to do in a week. How do you get it all in?

I think the biggest thing I think is you have a great point. There's so many. There's only so many jumps your horse can jump. You know what I mean? So if you want to Work on something. With your show jumping across country, there's only so many opportunities and you know, we're in a luxurious position where we can practice on multiple horses. The one thing I would say, guys, is when you have these sort of goals written out, you know, is on those sessions they have to count, you know, on your dressage days or your jumping days or the, the parts of your riding that really, really wants to be improved. You can't just whiz them around. That would be. What I've noticed a lot over the years is it's very, very easy to. Oh shit, I'm in a hurry. It's getting dark. Let's just spin him around today and we'll, we'll get to work next time. On the, on the goals is like you have to be clear minded and committed that the sessions that you're about to do have purpose. You know, everything you do with your horse, riding wise has purpose. And I've been lucky enough to been around a lot of champion riders in my time and that's the biggest thing I've picked up is their, their focus and their concentration, their attention to, to detail on their training days, you know, and, and it's very, doing more of it badly doesn't make you better, if that makes any sense. You better be focused, detailed and concentrating and, and trying to pinpoint things. It's, it's very easy just to spin them around. And I think we've all fallen into that trap where, where, where basically an exercise rider and the, the true champions have this amazing focus and detail. They still ride their horse for the same window of time, but they're just a little bit more engaged and connected to what their, what their real goal in that session is every time.

Doing more of it isn't going to make it better. Doing more of it badly isn't going to make it better.

I love that.

It's good because we don't have time to do more of this. It's sort of like I'm just that if you have a goal when you're working on it, you have to work at it better and then you can work on all your other goals the rest of the time. I love that. That's great.

Yeah, yeah. It's a weird one, mate, because you often, you have people saying, oh, I don't ride enough to get better and I sort of get that part. But then I've seen riders that ride six horses in every show that are terrible, you know, and they just practice riding in the wrong way, you know, and it's so. It's sort of. And I've been through it myself. I'm a guilty as charged in the. Once you're overwhelmed with horses or you got so many to ride, you just sort of end up just banging them out and going through them and, you know, and you often think that the best riders in the world are the ones that practice the most. And practicing the wrong way over and over and over again almost ingrains it into your. Into, into your system more and more. It's harder to fix.

All right, Mr. Brett Parbury over in Dressage World. And look, Brett, we're talking to event writers here. We're not going to stay in Dressage World for too long or we'll lose them.

Yeah, yeah. Look, to be honest, I love. I prefer being in the vending world, to be honest, but what I'm hearing there, and I really love this is, is what Boyd's saying that I'm picking up is a high performance mindset, is a mindset of detail, working on the simple things, getting them right. And it made me remember that, like, we had a. We have a sports psychologist who often joins our program, and his name is Jonah Oliver, works with sports people all over the world. And he said there's five things to achieving goals that you have to start straight away with, and that is today. Today, today, today and today. That's where it starts. It's what you do today that puts you in the place tomorrow, but it's all about today. And that's what I'm hearing from Boyd is his focus with this high performance mindset, which we always say, a high performance mindset does not only belong to a high performer. There are people in equestrian who are high performers in their profession or in their, their overall lives. That, that, that, that if, if they apply that to their writing, they can just achieve so much more. And, and Lillian said it there as well, like going round, round, if you just take the time, break things down, structure what you're doing, work out the skill sets that you could be missing. How can I improve those skill sets? How can I improve my understanding, improve my knowledge? When you have such a structured, targeted approach to training, it's just so much better for results. But the horses who just crave consistency from us, that's all they want is consistency, preparation, development, understanding. If you can just invest in that. What I'm getting from hearing Boyd and Lillian, I'm sure Peter, who is probably the king of all this when it comes to structure and flexibility within structure, that's What I'm picking up from, from an eventing perspective, and that, that also applies in dressage. I mean, dressage, straight dressage, there's no more structured sport on the planet, really, when you think about it, but that, you know, if anything, you've just got to apply it to two other disciplines.

So when riders, Brett, are thinking about planning out the year ahead. You're the dressage coach in the Boyd Martin eventing program. What advice do you have for those writers who are wanting to improve their dressage phase? What can they start to think about for this coming 12 months?

Well, I mean, I grew up with Boyd, right. So I know that Boyd did a venting because he didn't really like dressage. So he, he, he, he loved galloping fast and he loved jumping jumps. And then he marries Silva, who's a dressage queen from Germany. All of a sudden, he has to start liking dressage. And for many years, he thought, this will just solve my dressage problem. I'll just let her do it all. I'll jump on and look great. But now he's finally in his old age, he's starting to come around. You know, it's all in my dressage. Matter of fact, Boyd, here's a fun fact. Boyd was a very good dressage rider. He did a lot of straight dressage here in Australia and was very. Yeah, no, he did. He was very, very competitive. But, yeah. So with regard to those on the call who are wanting to improve their dressage, really just understand it. It's an. Is such an important part of your sport. You know, when I watch Peter coach, for example, Peter is about beautiful, the, the fundamentals of dressage that we apply. That's how Peter applies it to his jumping. When I have, whenever I get on the ground and help Boyd and Silva with their dressage, it's just simple things. It's never, ever big, magical, mysterious things that only top people know. It is really about simple things. It's. And, and I want everyone from this call to realize this is not complex. The complexity will come the further you go in the sport. But it's all on the back of the very simple fundamentals. So getting yourself to have the knowledge of the simple fundamentals will improve your jumping. Then you start applying that at speed cross country and, and start to get more control over your results. And I'm sure, and I don't know, I mean, I have done a couple of events in my life, but I'm sure it's much more fun sitting in the start box about to Go when you're leading. Is that.

Yeah, no, that's. That's the ide. The idea.

That's the idea.

I'm not sure it's ever fun sitting in the Starbucks, though. That's where you're wrong, Brett.

Depends what you're writing, mate. Depends what you're writing.

Now, Boyd and Brett, for the writers joining you in the program, they actually get early access now and a lot of pre season content is being uploaded. And that's with the two of you, Brett and Boyd, going through the flat work, going through all that fundamental work. Brett working on the ingredients and the aids and layering them together to produce the movements in the dressage test. So, Boyd, is that something that you would like writers to be focusing on, especially at this time time of year when perhaps they're not jumping so much that. Is that a great place for them to start?

Yeah, absolutely. Like, if you think about it, the, you know, my first competition still lasts six weeks away. So to me there doesn't. It doesn't make any sense of doing any test work in your training. You know, like I'm sort of doing some of the movements in the test that you'll see like a leg yield or counter can or a war cult or whatever, but I'm not like in a 60 by 20 arena preparing them for test work. I'm more sort of at this time of the year and in January, really working on their throughness, their balance, their suppleness. I'm trying to engage their muscles that are required to develop to produce these great dressage tests. So again, this time of the year, my dressage work, I'd call it flat work, is quite different to the, the dressage work. You might see me that at the show as I'm warming up. You know, it's a. Probably a little bit more of a rounder, more softer, more supple frame, a little bit longer. I'm using transitions to try and unlock and loosen the horse rather than practicing transition because I know it's at sea in the test that I'm about to do. And then I'm trying to use some of the lateral training like leg yielding and shoulder in, and it's more of horse yoga rather than getting prepared for a test. So obviously the great thing with this course is I think Brett really describes the differences in some of these lateral movements for training to improve the horse, improve their balance, their strength, their engagement, their suppleness. It's a slightly different lateral work to what we need to produce in the dressage Test. So I think you, you make a great point that we, you know, separating a little bit our training just because we are a little bit far out, far away from competition, competition days, you know.

Yeah. I like what Megan said here in the chat. Dressage is definitely one of those things where it's easy to practice what I'm already good at. But she said, I like it more when I improve the stuff that's harder for me. Great point. Love that. Peter, over to you. What is your best advice for writers as they're thinking about planning out their 12 months ahead?

So I, I loved hearing what both Brad and Boyd said. I thought that was spot on. I'd like to add a little bit to boy what Boyd said about the planning. I think what we do in show jumping, but I think it applies also for eventing, is to pick your most important event of the year and then work backwards from that in your scheduling, in what you're, what you're planning on doing and how you're going to get yourself best ready for that particular event. But to add to that, I think Boyd touched on that. But to add to that, which Boyd also mentioned, but I really want to stress is that we oftentimes with Boyd's horses go to show jumping events just to practice, just to take a little bit of the edge and the jitters off of our show jumping performance. And we do it with polo shirts on. We do it not with white britches, but we do it to get the rider and the horse in the ring and get them comfortable with show jumping so that the. Because eventers show jump so much less than show jumpers show jump. Like we, we go in the ring all the time and eventers like it's, it's so it's such few times that you're actually doing your big show jumping performance that and then you have everything else that if you can get yourself and your horse and this probably applies to dressage testing also, but if you can get yourself and your horse to a show jumping event just to practice show jumping without the stress of needing the clear round for the result, you just go in the ring. And we do that also as show jumpers. We take our top level horses to an easy event and just breeze around every now and again just to get the rideability and get them, get them polite in the ring. Which actually leads me to the two things that I want or would think everybody should focus on from my perspective, from the show jumping perspective. And the first one is to establish rideability. That's something that When I look at eventers and when I started with Boyd, that was our big goal was we want to make our horses polite to ride in the show jumping ring. And oftentimes, you know, you see a beautiful dressage test, but then you put the show jumping tack on and you start to show jump and it's, it's totally different. Like the horse runs around, it's too fast, the head's in the air, everything's, I'm not going to say a big mess, but it's, it's not nearly the same quality that you see in the dressage riding. And so we all, Boyd and I do all year long is work on getting the horses, it ties into dressage and that we want them round, we want them supple, we want them light. It's a little bit different frame. Like we don't want to insist that the horse is completely, you know, closed in the neck. It's a lighter, it's a more up frame. But we want to make sure that when the horses are show jumping that they're really lovely to ride. And so in our exercises that we're doing when we're, when we're schooling and training at home, we actually do some coursework where we really work on the horse, staying lovely and nice to ride the whole way around the course. And so a goal for eventers in their at home work and in their practicing and their goal for the year is to really work on, on getting their horses to be lovely and rideable in the show jumping round. And, and Boyd talked about that, about it. It ties into, it's not being a perfectionist, but it's being diligent. I don't want to say militant, but diligent in insisting that you do things well, that you don't just hop on and fly the horses over some jumps and, and you know, sort of, yeah, okay, I schooled him, I got him over some jumps. But you have to do it well and you have to really work on doing your show jumping riding well and, and classic, you know, watch the best show jumpers in the world and watch how their horses go around. A lot of people talk about, you know, oh, BZ Madden. When I watch her ride, famous show jumping rider, it looks like she's doing nothing. The reason why she's doing nothing is because her horses are beautifully trained and she's, she also has worked in herself as a rider to ride beautifully. We see that in Boyd's riding. You know, you watch Boyd's show jumping rounds at these shows at the Five star. And they're incredibly skillful. Beautiful rounds to watch and the horses are going beautifully. And that's because we spend a lot of time when we can, when it's our time to show jump school, we work on rideability. That's a really important part to make your show jumping rounds as successful as possible. So that's a real goal, is for everybody to think about rideability, training the horse, getting you and your horse together and having the best show jumping rounds you can. That translates to clear rounds, which translates to results.

So nicely articulated. Peter, can I get everybody. I'm so curious to hear from the writers on that point. Writers, head to the chat. Let's do a scale of 1 to 10, right? And this is writability. And 1 to 10, 10 is like beautiful rideability. Silent riding, quiet, invisible writing. I love when Peter says writing that you can't see. Minus two. Oh, I haven't even got to the lower numbers yet. And I was going to say one for I need Peter's help. One is I need Peter's help. Ten is we've got this covered. I'm so curious to hear. Oh, yes, a few ones and twos. Yeah, some sixes and sixes.

Come on, come on, everybody. You know, this is, this is what it's about though. But I promise you that if you can work on this rideability and you get this communication with you and your horse, it translates to clear rounds. That's what's important. And, and it, it's what it, what's, it's what helps you get clear rounds in your show jumping. It's not a magic trick, it's not anything, it's not anything fancy. It's just, you know, basic good, classic riding, training your horse to behave and to be polite in the ring so that you have this, I love to use the word rideability and that translates to clear rounds.

And Peter, can I ask a follow up question? I'm thinking maybe a lot of our riders here on the chat might not be able to jump, you know, without their coach and maybe only can jump once a week. How can you work on if you can't jump? But in a lesson, how can you work on this when you're kind of just riding on your own and work on it more often?

You know, poles on the ground are really helpful tool. I'm not saying you set up a whole course, but there's plenty of people that actually you, you see, you know, sort of sometimes these patterns that people canter over or work over and practicing seeing a distance or practicing counting strides, or even practicing, let's say you do one less stride in a line that's a six or a seven. You can do seven, do six, do seven, do six. But then also after you've done six strides, that you land and collect the horse. So we, this weekend, we did this exercise where we lengthened down the long side and then collect, you know, sort of the last four strides of the long side of a course. And it, it's similar to the dressage test when you do the extended canter, but you do it in a little bit more of an idea that you're actually going down a long line, that you're jumping, and then you land from the long line and you collect, you know, get tall and collect the horse and bring it together in a nice round, smooth, soft, supple way. And you can practice that. You can practice that in a field where you get up off the back and you let the horse sort of hand gallop across the field, pick a point to ride to, and then in a straight line, ride the bend of the lead that you're on and collect the horse and bring it together. And that sort of lengthening and shortening in a show jumping saddle, in a show jumping bridle, in that kind of a position, rather than with your long stirrups in a dressage saddle. But do it in a show jumping saddle and practice sort of opening the stride, shortening the stride, opening the stride, shortening the stride, and just repeating that until you feel you can get that comfortably achieved, where you have this sort of seamless communication with your horse and that you're able to lengthen and shorten in a very soft and supple way without getting into a big argument, without the head going in the air, the mouth, you know, they get rude in the mouth, all of that, that takes practice, it takes time. And, and so that's a goal to work on and that, that rideability, not just in the dressage arena, but in the, in the show jumping saddle. Do it in a field. If you show jump on grass a lot. A lot of people were talking about that this weekend at this, the clinic that I taught. They said we show jump on uneven grass fields a lot. And so practice that, you know, good do that. That's a really helpful tool for. But poles on the ground are the closest thing to jumping that you can use to practice.

Fantastic. Peter, what was your second point that you were going to talk about?

So the second thing that I talked about, and Boyd and I again were formulating this all the time. And that is to develop a recipe. A recipe for success, but a recipe. And what I'm meaning about that is to try to be. Both Brad and Boyd talked about that horses like it when you're consistent. Try to figure out what is the formula that I do with a horse for each event that gets the horse in the best possible way. So that when you ride at the event, everything is a plan, it's thought out in advance, and you have what you want to do with that individual horse. Every horse is different. Oftentimes the plan can be similar for all horses. But that means, is it, do I show jump school two days before the event, then I go to the vent? How much work do I do with the horse? Say, for example, this is dressage, but how much preparation do I do with the horse for the dressage? Then the cross country? What do I do in the morning of the cross country test? And then for show jumping, what do I do for show jumping? How much work do I do to get ready? Planning out everything you do. And again, Boyd talked to. Think a little bit about this. Being a perfectionist. Perfectionist. Managing every detail, plotting it out. Don't say, oh, well, I don't feel like riding my horse this morning before I show jump or, you know, whatever it is there. I find the. The most successful way to train horses and work with horses and riders is to set up a plan and try to tailor that plan so it gets this formula or this recipe of how do I approach each event with each horse. And try to get yourself into a schedule.

And.

And then if it doesn't work, then you tweak it slightly for the next event and you do something slightly different, and that involves the feeding of the horse. Are you giving it the right amount of the right energy, the right grain? You know, is your horse too hot or is it too lazy? Do I need to have more energy? Do I need to have less energy? All of those little aspects are things that you need to be aware of and, and make either written notes or mental notes about which, what. What did I do this time? And how. How can I make it better? How can I fix the problem? You know, like, if this happened with the horse and it didn't work, how can I make it better? To make the horse better and really be conscious about everything that you do with the horse? Because as Brett said, horses love consistency. So that would be my second goal for people, is to focus on that and really think about that. Think about what it is that you're doing with Your horses.

Sorry, guys, my camera just died. But don't worry, I'm still here. You can hear me, right? Just give me a nod.

I can hear you.

Oh, good. At a small panic attack. Sorry, Lillian. Now, I know you would be absolutely nerding out. Enjoy listening to Peter there, because you are a planner, a note taker. Do you want to add or tell the writers a little bit about your approach to this sort of thing? Because I know that you love what Peter's talking about and that you will note down everything. Because what human nature is, we think to ourselves, yep, okay, I did this today and this worked or this didn't work. And then 24 hours, we've forgotten what that recipe was and what our experiment was and if it worked or not.

Absolutely. Nat and I were talking about this the other day. That's why she's listening to Peter and thinking about me. I love writing everything down. I have the shortest memory. I every month have an epiphany. And then I think, wait, I think I figured that out a month ago. Why am I just remembering it again? So I've started writing everything down and just like Peter says, having a plan. Like, when I get up in the morning on a horse show day, I write down Almost like every 15 minute interval what my plan is for that day. I'm going to get on my horse now. I'm going to go walk the course at this point. I'm going to think through my test at this point. And of course, most of the time I don't do what I wrote down and I said I was going to do. But it's that sort of having that plan that gives me confidence and makes me feel relaxed. And as everybody who's, you know, all the riders that are on this know and the coaches know, with horses, there's so many factors we don't have control over and we have to be ready to roll with that. But having a really clear plan, like Peter says, actually makes us feel more in control. And I think that's a really powerful thing as a rider to make us more successful, is that feeling of being in control of the situation.

Yeah, I love that. Boyd, I let you off the hook before, but I. I need to ask you, where are you at on average, across all your horses? On average scale, 1 to 10, rideability in the show jump arena, where are you at? What's your average?

Well, pre Peter, I was minus two with one of the. One of the other riders. And, and to be honest, there's. It's a little horse Specific. Specific too, you know, and one of the, you know, we've got so many horses. Some are hot and fiery, some are a bit more warm, bloody. And I think the. The great thing with this, the group of people we got here, is that they're sort of experts in their. Their own discipline, but they've also. They know the eventing world. I'll give you an example. Brett Parbury was the dressage coach for the Australian eventing Olympic team in London. So there's. There's differences between dressage, dressage and eventing dressage. And Peter now, you know, we've been together for five years. And in that five years, we've done badminton, Burley, Maryland. PO A couple times Kentucky. We've gone to two Olympic Games together. A weg together, you know, like. And his understanding of the difference between pure show jumping and eventing. Show jump, there is a.90% of it's pretty close. And then there's this other part that we're dealing with probably more fit horses for the dressage. We're dealing with tired, stiff horses for the show jumping that have been brawled and brave the day before. So I think the great thing. And then. And last but not least, Lillian, Lily and I worked together for about six or seven years. So I think Lillian's been sort of under my wing as a young rider. So she's sort of come up in the system that I've learned over the years too. So we've got an awesome group of people here. And I. I couldn't agree more with the rideability. And I mean, as Peter was talking, I just kept on thinking back to all the amazing tricks and techniques that Peter had. We got this crazy horse called Luke, and about halfway around the course, he gets faster and stronger and wilder and. And it's diabolical at the end of the course. And, you know, when we went to these jumping shows, you know, they were proper shows, you know, Peter would get me to do a trot transition halfway through the course. It's the weirdest thing where you can. Of the course. You do five or six jumps to get a bit picked up. And then we'd bring him back to trot. Trot a couple steps, then you'd pick up can and it. It was almost like a restart. And it was a wonderful technique. It worked wonders, you know. And then in our training, often Peter would stick some bounce. You know, we'd do a course, but then there'd be some bounces halfway through the course. So you'd be jumping the course and Then you'd have to slow right down, hop through the bounces and then continue with the track. And again, all just cool and wonderful techniques for improving rideability. And I mean, I, I just, as Peter and was talking, I was just thinking through all the, you know, when he talks about the process and the system, I'll give you my last sort of rant and rave about Peter is, you know, we are, we've been to so many big competitions together. It's just so systematic. Our warm up. Our warm up is I start floating the horses about 12 horses to go, about six horses to go. Stephanie and Peter get a horse a jump. We start with a vertical and we often. It's a small jump and it's more working on the rideability and the discipline. After the jump would often do a walk transition on the landing side of the fence to try and get the horse thinking slow. We work the vertical up. Then we go to the OXA and, and then this is a cool thing that I learned off Peter is about two horses out. I'd hop off the horse, reset the saddle and just take a 30 second exhale. And what I didn't realize, which I think we, we reset the saddle even if it doesn't need resetting. And this gives me and the horse just a moment to exhale. And you can see it in the horse's eye. It just calms it down. And then Steph throws me back on the horse and then we usually jump. Our last fence is the ride before me, is it, you know, at fence two or three on the course. And it's usually a tall vertical to get the horse jumping up high before we go in the ring. And you know, and, and it's just this methodical system. And when we're doing our training at home, we'll often pretty much always use the same warm up at home as we use at the competition. And I think the horse is fine. For me, a lap feel familiarity in that is all of a sudden they're nervous and they're excited and they're looking around at everything and they're fired up. But then all of a sudden you start going, okay, vertical land walk, okay vertical, you know, like. And you, you go through this system and it's, it's this routine that they're familiar with the rider that's a bit nervous and anxious. I'm familiar with it. And all of a sudden you sort of your body language calms down. The horse all of a sudden gets. I know this pattern. I'm onto it, you know, And I just think it's actually really cool listening to everyone talk because I. Every time Lillian, Brett and Peter talk, is it like it just brings up aha moments on my end. So, so true.

You can never hear this stuff enough, right? You can never hear it enough. Writers, go ahead and hit the Q and A because we're going to come back to the Q and A section in a couple minutes. But I want to know, have a look at this team of people in front of you. Boyd, Peter, Brett, Lillian, would you like this to be your support team? Who is interested in learning about joining Boyd's eventing program? Let me know in the chat. Maybe write me or write Boyd or put a smiley face. Who is keen to hear. Right, let's have a look and if you have questions, pop them in the Q and A. We'll come back to them.

I. I'll just jump in there quickly. I love the, I love the question that just came in there about, and we might flesh this out a little later about what do you do when things go wrong? So can we leave with that? Because I think that's a, you know, things go wrong all the time. It's not about everyone's great when things are going right. It's when things are going wrong, that's when you true self gets tested, your knowledge, your skills. So if there's a chance that we.

Could visit that, we can definitely do that. Brett Parbury requests it, it gets in, we'll do it. Now. There might be some. Yeah, put. Yeah, Brett, type it out. Put it in the Q and A. Writers, there might be some of you thinking like, okay, if I think back to my last year or three years or five years, I'm happy with that progression. I'm improving. Like Boyd was saying, I'm not just writing day after day with no improvement. I've got this and that's awesome. But there will be also some of you who are thinking, I'm actually not getting that progression that Boyd is talking about. I do need some help with this. So I'm just so excited to show you what Boyd has put together in the Epic Boyd Martin eventing program. So this is a training, coaching, mentoring from Boyd, Peter, Brett and Lillian, just as you've had today. Quickly, let's run through it. This is what you're going to get every month live seminar with Boyd. You've seen what he's like here. He's very open, transparent. He's going to tell you all his hard won lessons, winning strategies. He's going to tell you his 1000 mistakes that he's made along the way and how not to make those. Ideally, you're gonna get a monthly learning pack, videos, guides, exercises. This is targeted to your level. You're gonna have live training huddles that we call them. So this is when you get together with one of the coaches and a group of writers at your level. You might submit a video for us to look at. You might have a question. So we get into the real nitty gritty in these sessions. We're going to have guest experts from Boyd's inner circle. So people who know seriously know what it takes in this sport. You're going to get information from pros on rider, athlete development, nutrition, fitness, position, performance. Lillian is going to be helping you in our private members community. So you always have that expert support when you need it. All the live sessions are available on Catch Up. And seriously, writers, where is the access to this group of incredible coaches for this? Absolutely nowhere else. When I was thinking about the value, I was like, honestly, fifteen hundred dollars a month is conservative. It's more than that. The founding memberships are only $89 a month. So I think you'll agree, amazing value. And that's really democratizing, I think access to these kind of coaches. Anyone can do it. Darlene, is it helpful even at starter level? 100%. It's all personalized pathways. So you, you are in this program at the level that's suitable for you. Boyd, how excited are you to be leading a bunch of writers through this program?

I just think it's a really cool, cool idea in the sense of the world's a frigging big, big place, especially the United States, Australia, Canada. Whatever country you're in, sometimes you don't have access to world class coaching, you know, and you could be in remote, remote parts of the world that really, and people that really have a passion for getting better, a passion for doing the best by their horse. And this, this, this huge urge to, to be as competitive as you can be, you know, and for, you know, you know, to, to work with myself, Brett, Lillian and Peter on a monthly basis. You know, this is not just a one off thing. This is month to month where we're covering all, all things. I think is an incredible opportunity, you know, and I, I hope everyone has a crack at it because I, I mean, I'd just listening, I'd buy it myself, just listening to Brett and Pete.

I'll send you the link to sign up.

Boyd.

Yeah, those guys have changed my career, you know, they're Both legends and winners in their own career. And then for them to come in and help the eventing world like they have with me, been a game changer and the successes I've had is not coincidence. Through the, you know, the team of people around me, you know, of, you know, I think there's, as Peter was saying, there's, there's an ingredient for success and part of that ingredient is the team around you. And I think when you talk teams, it's your blacksmith and getting a really good vet and then obviously your coaches and mentors is a huge thing.

And.

You know, I think between me, Brett and Peter, we've gone through every type of horse, every scenario, we've made every mistake you could ever imagine. So I, I can't imagine any question that you guys out there have that we wouldn't have an answer for. So it's, I think it's an exciting, and it's, you know, one of the, the great things with modern technology that you could be anywhere in the world and train alongside some of the best writers and coaches in the world.

That's it, writers. I put the link in the chat, but there's a lot going on the chat, so it's also in your inbox in a matter of a couple of minutes. Boyd I knew that this was going to happen. There are a bunch of writers asking, is this going to be above my skill level? Am I going to be good enough for this program?

Boyd well, let me tell you, tell you one thing. I, I, I think that knowledge and, and wisdom is key. And I think, as Brett said, as Peter said, you, you think that these people that are, that are at the top of the sport are like training under some secret, secret sort of structure that no one knows about, and they use techniques that no one's ever heard of, and that's why they're the best in the world. It's actually very simplistic, simple writing and one of the most, when I first worked with Peter, I was so excited. I thought he was going to come up with the most amazing gymnastics with different, all sorts of exercise that I'd never seen before. And it was incredibly simplistic, you know, and same with Brett, you know, with his training is, is it's the small, fundamental details that make the huge difference. And I'm often shocked when I go to the Olympic Games in eventing of how average a lot of the riders are there. You think that people walk on water just because they're from another country or because you're at a special competition. And it's incredible how basic everyone is. So to answer your question, if you've got an urge or a hunger for getting better, this is a fantastic opportunity, this project, because I think we're obviously at the very top end of the spot support, but the. The message and the information sort of relates from top to bottom.

Yeah. Lillian, I'll hand over to you for. To pick out some questions from the Q and A in a second. Just a couple about the program. Few people asking, is this just with Boyd or with everyone in the session? It's with all of these incredible coaches. All of them. You get Boyd, you get Peter, you get Brett, you get Lillian. How awesome. And for dawn asking, how long is this available? So we've got that I mentioned right up at the beginning. We've got a really cool offer for the next 48 hours after this live session. For those joining us now, we're going to send you out a template to go ahead and complete your 2026 blueprint using all the inspiration and information you got from this session. And for those early writers joining the program, one of the coaches will review your blueprint and come back to you with some comments about next year. So that's an awesome opportunity. Well worth the price of the first few months alone. So that's for the first 48 hours, and then the enrollments are open until the Sunday night before Christmas. Okay. Lillian, do you want to pick out a couple of questions for the coaches?

Yeah. Okay. I'm looking through the questions you guys are sending through. There are a ton. They're all really good. I want answers to all of them myself. The one that is coming up over and over and over again. So we've. We've. It's the one we obviously need to hit. Charlotte put it the best, but she asked, what advice do you have for a rider who has big ambitions but struggles with fear after a bad fall or a bad experience?

Experience.

Boyd?

Well, I've. I'm a master at falling off Charlotte, so come to the right spot. Hey, now, listen, first things first. I want everyone to understand that if you've chosen this sport, you've chosen a tough path in life. This is a. A sport with pressure. It's got risk, and it's got excitement and huge amounts of success. Everyone's going to fall off. Everyone's going to crash. This is part of the reason we've drawn to the sport of eventing. On top of that, I just want to acknowledge that there's 380 million people in America, 95% of them never feel pressure. They, there's no pressure sitting on a couch and drinking Bud Light, watching nascar. So if we've chosen this and the big part of it, which I think we're going to work on, a lot of this is how do you deal with nerves and anxiety, you know, if everyone feels it. And then the biggest thing is how do I make sure that this doesn't interfere with my writing, you know. And I think in this course I'm going to sort of go into parts of things that make me more confident. I'll give you one example. I love the idea of training just a little bit higher and a little bit harder than what I'm going to compete at. I love practicing at home with jumps two holes higher than what I know I'm going to compete. If I'm competing in the one star three day event, I want to be schooling and practicing over two star jumps. I love it when I get to the competition and it's slightly easier and less challenging than what it was at home. And I find comfort in that. The other part that I love or that gives me calmness when I'm feeling nervous and anxious is knowing that I've put the work in. I often, you know, get to these competitions, I'm nervous as hell and I often say to myself, okay, I've done all the work, I've prepared myself, I've done all the training and we're here now. And I feel like if I've left no stone unturned, there's this sort of thing in my mind saying, well, it's going to be what it's going to be. You know, this is still a, still a sort of risky sport where anything can go wrong. You can slip over or you can, you know, these courses are so challenging now. You can have a runoff or a glance or you know, anything can go wrong. But I feel like there's comfort knowing that I've prepared me and my horse as well as I can compare as I can prepare. I've also trained and practiced and prepared a notch higher than what I have to compete. And those things alone often gives me a little bit, you know, it gives me self belief and confidence and I feel like if you go down that path, all of a sudden the nerves and anxiety disappear just to, I know I'm rattling on a bit, but everyone falls off. It's, it's shit. I hate falling off too. But the, you know, to me there's a bit of a theory of falling off as you've number one, you've got to work at getting a secure position. You know, you've got to ride your horse and know that if anything goes wrong in the cross country, that I'm locked in with my position. That's going to be a lot of our work. We're trying to avoid falling off. You know, that's part of our training, is schooling our horses that they don't stop, you know, that they don't chip in or they don't sort of panic. And there's a, a real sort of system, you know, of like schooling horses at low levels. And in training cross country, I love the idea of, you know, jumping up the bank before we jump down the bank and trotting through the water before we jump the jump into the water. And like, there's just thousands and thousands of tools that I've learned over the years that create confidence in your horse, which transfers over to confidence in the rider.

Lillian, just before you hop onto the next training question, just a couple of program questions I can help with. A couple of writers are asking, is there a community? Community? Yes, there certainly is. We run it on Facebook just because that's the easiest for everybody. Most people is using it anyway. And the amazing Lillian is mentoring in that group. So you actually have an incredible trainer, part of Boyd's inner circle in that program with you. That is an awesome opportunity. So take advantage of that. Another question, is this suitable for horses that are new to eventing? The answer is yes. So definitely targeting all the learning resources for all levels. Boyd, it reminded me as well, though, that there are plenty of people. In fact, I'd say when we surveyed people who were planning to join, there was something like over 80% were on, off the track thoroughbreds. And I know when we were talking about this program, you were telling us how important, important it is to be catering for people with off track thoroughbreds. Do you want to speak to that and that you've made sure that that's a priority for you in the program?

Yeah, I mean, I, I think it's huge. I mean, worldwide, I'd say the off the track thoroughbreds, the most common event horse out there, they're, you know, they're tailored, made for the cross country, they're cheap, they're ready to go. And, you know, I, I really made my whole career on off the track thoroughbreds. I've just actually got back a couple days ago from Japan where I did an off the track thoroughbred training with all the, the Japanese riders. And I think part of, part of the, the program with me is. Is going to be focused on off the track thoroughbreds. I think that obviously an animal that has huge amounts of endurance and stamina and courage that we really, really need for the cross country. And then obviously, the challenging part, obviously, sometimes is resetting their mind and having them sort of calm and relax for. For Brett and the show jumping. And then. And then calm, relax, rideable and careful for Peter in the. In the show jumping. So I think generally speaking, my training system sort of covers all breeds of horses and all levels of riders. And, you know, the people with green horses out there. I think you've come to the right spot as, like, part of our training is going to be with the young horses, how I introduce them to the cross country and how I get them starting, how we take them to their first shows, a few of the techniques and ways that I sort of make sure that this is a success. So I think if you've got a off the track thoroughbred, you've come to the right place.

Lillian, do you want to pick out a couple more training questions?

Yeah. Okay, I've seen this one next, which I love and Peter or Brett could jump into. This is not a Boyd specific one, but Francesca asks any advice for how to work towards your goals when the environment or facilities are working against your goals. For example, being confined to a small indoor for the winter or not having access to terrain to ride on. I think Francesca's question here is probably what a lot of our riders are thinking. Yeah, Boyd, we don't have your, you know, million dollar cross country field and incredible indoor. You know, how can all of our riders try and train to the same level that you are without, without, you know, these perfect environments?

Can't Peter?

Well, we. One thing that we do, even at the highest level is take our horses to other rings. And I think that that's a really helpful training tool. And I know in Millbrook, for example, there's Fitch's Corner, which is a. That's where I live in New York. There's a wonderful training field where you can go and school and train. Of course, Boyd's Place, Windora in Pennsylvania. You can take your horse there and train and school. But wherever you are, there must be another facility that's in your area. And don't be shy to do that. You know, people, you know, aren't really motivated or. Oh, I don't know if I really want to do that, but push yourself a little bit. Put your horse on the trailer and take it down the road to another facility and give yourself that exposure. And that experience, that's a really helpful training tool because we all get stuck in our own rings. Even if you have a wonderful ring yourself, like we did that when I was in Europe. I had a phenomenal facility in Europe, but we always shipped the horses to another ring. That was also good. It's not we went to a small ring, but we went to a good training facility where we could practice and train. And this actually would tie into a little bit about what the person with fear, or if you have fear is. Take yourself to another. Get out of your comfort zone of your own ring, not to a horse show or not to an event, but to another facility, which adds a little bit of the nerve factor for both you and the horse. And so it allows you to sort of all of a sudden be confronted with a new experience, but it's actually not the horse show or the event. So you don't, you, you don't worry if you say to yourself, I'm going to take a little pause here and do a reset. Boyd talked about that with Luke trotting on the end of the ring. But think about that in the big picture. When you take your horse to a, to a training facility that's not a competition and just get some of the jitters out, it's. It'll really help your confidence. It'll help your horse's relaxation and his confidence. It's a wonderful training tool. So the answer to the question of someone who doesn't have the facility, I can't imagine that in the area within an hour's drive or 45 minute drive, it's worth it. Maybe not once a week, but once a month, push yourself a little bit, you know, load up the truck and trailer and take your horse to another place. I can't recommend that enough. It's very, very, very helpful, especially because of the fact that you're going to a new facility. But it's not an event. So you can manage the experience a lot nicer for the horse. And it'll help you and your horse get better, I'm sure of it.

That's great advice.

Lillian, final question.

Yeah. Okay. This one, I found one for Brett, so he doesn't get to get away with not answering. This is from Sue. She said, I loved hearing about Boyd's warm up routine. What are some tips for a dressage warm up? I find I just do circles and transitions while trying to avoid people.

I mean, that, that would, I'd say that would be the case for a lot of people. So the biggest thing right Is first of all, there should be arena rules. So arena rules are left to left. I mean, get to know your arena rules and then just be sure that everyone sticks to them so you don't have to just try and avoid people. Because if you think about, you know, driving in Bombay or Calcutta, you're just trying to dodge traffic. And when we drive in Australia, America, New Zealand, we're, we're sticking to rules, right? So when people stick to rules, they know where they're going. You can preempt, but the biggest thing there is to just maintain focus on you and your horse and your structure. Peter said it the best when he said have a plan. Have a, have a, have a game plan for your warm up. Have a game plan for everything. The way you put, put your horse on the trailer, get to the show how many hours before this is planned out. And a major part of that is the warm up plan. So don't let other riders in the arena distract you. If you stick to the arena rules, then they should stick to the arena rules. If they don't, don't look at them and try to avoid, because I guarantee you'll, you'll crash into them. Then once you've got a plan, stick to it and then start to. Because you can only, you can only change something or measure something that is fixed in the first place. So having that structure and plan in place will let you then go. You know what I won't do? I'll do candor. I'll do a little more candle work next time at a matter show or I'll do a little more trot work before I go in or I'll walk or I'll step off my horse. These are all the things that we discuss in that mentorship piece in this program is exactly those questions. You know, I've seen a number of questions come in. I'll just branch off one bit here. They all relate to the same thing. I've seen questions about, is this fit for me if I have a disability? Is it fit for me if I'm not to the skill level when things go wrong? All these questions have the same answer. The answer is, number one, ask yourself, are you getting the most from yourself and your horse? And be very honest right now, if you're not, then that starts the search, right? That starts the question, how can I get the best of myself and my horse? Two, is the, is my knowledge up to speed with what, with what I'm doing, with what I've chosen to do? And Boyd said the best there he goes, you know, we're in a sport where people fall off, we're in a sport where you'll get injured. Like, accept that. That's. I, I love it when Boyd says that because, you know, no one has had more hard knocks than Boyd, but every time he gets up and goes again, right, and he's accepted. This is a dangerous thing. So know the sport you're participating in, know the rules, know the structure of training, know the consistencies that go with it. That enables you to have a foundation that, so that when things go wrong, you can always come back to that foundation and work out how to get it right. Now, if you've got disability, if you've got a green horse, no person can escape the, the necessity for foundations, right? The foundations, the fundamentals. So, so, and then that mentorship piece that comes within that, you know, I'll be watching Boyd, Peter will be watching Boyd. I'll be coaching high level dressage riders doing all those magical movements. Every problem is solved from a farm. Now as and work our way through till we find the problem. So, yeah, I think, I think you'll find that within this format, within the program of this nature, that everybody's needs will be met.

Yeah, exactly. And we have worked hard to make sure that everything is targeted at different levels, which is a fantastic thing. And Brett and I have actually been running a similar program in the dressage world for some years. So this is not our first radio and we've had some practice with what the best format is. So writers, I know it's getting late for some of you, so last thing I want to ask from you, hit the chat. Tell me one idea from this session that you're going to take with you and put into action can be from anything that came up from any of the coaches, but this is a good way to lock it in, make yourself accountable and, and commit one idea that you are going to put into action. I just flicked over to my other screen. I can already see lots of people joining us in the Boyd Martin eventing program. So I am there for you if you have any questions. Me and my team are there. So if you don't know where to go, email is a great place because we have emailed you some details. Check your junk folder, spam folder often. They're tricky things. Also, if you just head to performanceriders.com there's a chat function there that you can reach one of us and ask any questions. Whoa, look at all these action items coming in. That is so cool. Boy. Do you see a couple of those stand out for you. What are you seeing there?

And I'm agreeing with Mohsa. Make every ride count. Practicing the lengthening and collection in the jump saddle. Good stuff, mate, good stuff.

Fantastic. Now presenters, thank you so much. Wow, what a valuable hour and hour and a half we've spent. Boyd, Lillian, Peter, Brett, thank you so much for your time.

Right, well, thank you Nat and like I said at the beginning, this is exciting project. It's basically hopefully coaching and training and spreading the knowledge that the four of us have gained over years and years of decades of training horses and we really think everyone will get something out of it. So please join up and it's going to be an exciting year.

We'll see you live in the new year, Boyd. Mentoring, coaching, making it all happen. Thank you riders. Great to spend this time with you. See you over in the program.

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