Sat night Suicide Prevention - Pain and Joy how they go together

I'm starting early just because Jamie is here and I can't type well tonight. I'm not really starting early because I've still got 3 minutes, 4 minutes depending on which countdown clock you're looking at, and then I will do the little banner thing right at 9 o'clock. I will actually do the thing. All right, DJ, I started early just so you know. You don't have to disappear. I am just warning you. So, um, at 9 we'll run the banner thingy, but you're— you can unmute and say good morning and hi. And hi, Moo, and hi, Mark, and hi, Mike. Um, yes, I see you unmuted, so now I'm going to throw you up there. Hi, DJ.

Hello everyone. I was actually just going to try and change my icon. It was that instant enter upon, you know, backroom access sort of thing. It's just like, wait, wait, wait, I don't have my usual icon on. But yeah, I'm glad to see everybody out there in the crowd. And you got a little bit early tonight. I was like just about ready to say hang out in the back room and say, how was your evening?

Yeah, so, um, yeah, no, my plan was at 9 we'll actually play the thing that is the actual start time. But Jamie was out there, um, G-Webs was out there, apparently 2 Live Moo is here now, and Mark and Mike. And Mike and I were texting, or Mike was texting me, I hadn't responded to his text yet. Um, but Mike Ballinger and I were discussing the joy of being married and understanding you have to work at a marriage, and that it's not easy, but it's awesome that it works and that you love the person that you're with. But it's always going to be work. So anyway, is it that time? I'm like, I'm trying— see, now that I went live early, I don't have my countdown timer anymore. So I'm like, wait, what time is it? Okay, I got 2 minutes. Um, so anyway, uh, let's see. Moo, Mark, Keith, his last one who said hi. And, um, don't worry, DJ will have this all together, and in about 10 minutes when I'm done going blah blah blah, um, y'all get an official DJ welcome as well. So it's been a crazy day, hence barely getting on here at all. Like, I, as most of you know, like, I know, um G-Webs hopped on and shared this out because I only announced it like 20 minutes ago, and, uh, that's kind of how that all worked. But anywho, I hope you all are having a lovely Saturday wherever you are. Uh, it is 8:58. We got 2 minutes before we start official official, like, and, um, thank you. I'm actually in pajamas this evening. It's been a long week. Um, yes, this is— these, these— we got a bunch of these robes for the whole family, and they have, they have the thing, so it's like when they're down, it looks like you've got, um, whatever that's called, like a cowl or a neckerchief or something. I don't even know. But I've been— it's been a week. But we'll talk about that for real when it all actually starts in another minute. Because this is just blah blah blah time. Hello, Chris. Um, Chris, you did a post the other day. I know I read it. I'm not on Facebook hardly at all, which is where Chris and I communicate, because you all know how some— sometimes we just have online friends. I mean, Chris and I know each other live and in person though too. Um, so there is that. All right, is it 9 o'clock? It's not. All right, TJ, are you ready? 30 seconds from now when it actually goes 9 o'clock, do you want to push the button that does the video thingy?

Oh, you got control of that from the back side. You take care of that.

All right, I will. I just— I'm like, I know I got to go into the thing that shows the thing that does the thing and find the thing that does the thing.

Well, while you do that, I'm going to welcome in Fiona. It's been a minute since I've seen her name pop up on screen. Good to see you out there.

Oh, And it's that minute, sorry. Ta-da! Now it is officially Suicide Prevention Saturday because it is 9 o'clock. Um, and why are we here? Because 2 out of every 3 gun deaths you hear about are suicides. And if we're looking to actually save lives, we need to talk about mental health and suicide prevention. So I don't know how many of y'all actually read the title for tonight: Pain and Joy, How They Go Together. Um, so many people, so I'm gonna— I'm gonna explain. Um, and sorry, DJ, you, you said hi to Fiona. Was there anybody else while the little thingy was playing, or we good?

I did kind of cut you. Most recently in the room, Guns and Barbecue, and, uh, he wants to know, was, uh What's up?

I'm sorry, all I can think of is what was that— what was that thing with all the Super Friends? What's up, what's up, what's up? What was that one?

An ad campaign for someone, but I honestly don't recall. Someone out there in the text chat will remember.

Yeah, yeah, um, I remember that was— that was— that was early internet. For all of you who are less than 4 decades or 5 decades, you may not know this. Well, at least 3, but anyway. So, all right, suicide runs Saturday. Why? 2 out of every 3 gun deaths. We've heard that before. We know that it is an election season. It's a, it's a big election this year. So I— my big thing is ask people straight up. It's like, all right, where do you stand on mental health and helping people with mental health? So what's up? Sorry, I'm gonna do that all night now. Thanks, barbecue. That's totally gonna be in my head. Is it 7-Up? I don't know. I do not know. Bud Light, Chris says. Budweiser commercial says moo, so Budweiser has it, I guess. Um, I just remember all the clips of the different cartoons saying the thing. Anyway, I digress. All right, pain and suffering, joy and happiness— how is it these things are connected? Well, ah, Life is not a balance. It's— don't— you don't get equal amounts of this thing just because you will get equal amounts of the other thing. So most of us have a lot more pain and suffering than we do have joy and happiness. Now, why is that? Mostly because the pain and suffering we notice a lot more than we notice the joy and happiness, because it can be something as simple as my daughter is— we're driving tonight, bringing her friend home, and she's like, oh, look at it, look at it, look at it. You know what she's looking at? She's looking at the clouds. She's looking at the sunset. She's finding joy in just being outdoors and just being able to see the clouds lit up by the sun. Now, most of you guys here are older. As far as you're not 17, um, or 16. I keep making her older than she is. And when's the last time you looked up at the clouds and really noticed like how beautiful it is? What about taking your feet— your feet— taking your shoes off and walking on the grass and paying attention to the grass and how it felt? That sort of stuff. So those are the joyful things. Those are the simple things of being aware of what's right now. Um, so wait a second, I'm gonna— I'm not gonna read that. I'm hiding the— I'm hiding the comments so I can stay on track. DJ, I know you're gonna keep track of them. So, um, so those are the fun stuff— looking at the clouds, seeing the clouds, feeling the, the ground under your feet, that sort of stuff. And the joy and the happiness and the simplicity of the things that are around us every day are the things that unfortunately as adults we have to work harder at paying attention to those things. Because like this week has been kind of crazy. Now we all have craziness in our life, all ebbs and flows, right? I know there was a time when it seemed like every other month we're going to a funeral or someone else died, and then for the next year we went to what do you call it, weddings, celebrations, and then baby showers, and then back down to, you know, people dying. Like, we have a flow of energy, or I don't know, seasons. DJ, help me out on this one. I'm like, you know what I'm trying to get to, right? And I'm like, uh, the words, the words. Um, but it's one of these things where we have pain. Without the pain, we wouldn't notice the joy. With the joy, we have to choose to pay attention to it. My favorite thing is 'this too shall pass,' because whether it's super elation and happiness, we really want to take that in and really feel it. And then the pain and suffering, we need to feel that and accept it and go through it. You can't go around the pain, you have to go through the pain. And everybody's got the pain, but without the pain, we wouldn't have the joy. So there's my circular talk for you guys this evening. It is Saturday night and it's only 9:05, so I don't know if that's too much stuff for you all at the same time, but the reason I'm telling you about the joy and the pain is because when I tell you the story of this week, just understand that we're working on having a balance, right? So Wednesday, my daughter's homesick from school. I'm teaching all day, and then an hour before my class is supposed to be done, she calls me and we have to go to the ER. And she's been in pain since 2 o'clock in the morning. It's now 4 PM in the afternoon. And so I tell my students, I'm like, sorry about this, but I gotta go. I gotta bring my daughter to the emergency room. So we actually went to urgent care first, and urgent care is like, yeah, we're not really sure, we're not going to charge you, but please go to the ER so they can do imaging. And so, you know, now it's 8 o'clock by the time we get through imaging and everything else. Like, well, looks like you had a cyst, it burst, that's why you're in so much pain. And so that was Wednesday. Then Thursday we go to the doc, she's still in pain. We're trying Advil, Tylenol, that's not enough. Have to put her on something more strong so she can actually sleep because the poor kid's been awake since 2 AM. And then yesterday we finally go to the specialist who checks her all out, and we come up with some solutions. Now, this is a tired mama from going through all of that with my kid on over the course of 3 days. It's like nobody likes watching other people in pain. We, however, put ourselves in pain, and we are in pain, and we ignore our pain. But when it's someone else, all of a sudden it's like that's the priority. So 3 days of that while still working, while still taking care of stuff around the house. Not really, no, it was just the bare minimum that I needed to do. And then you get a diagnosis, and then we have a road to run on. And today, day number 4, she's finally feeling better, and it's a good thing. So as we're going through the stress in life, i.e., watching someone else suffer or letting ourselves suffer, we have to remember to look at the clouds and to remember that there are— there is a— you have to have the pain in order to enjoy this and enjoy the suffering. Yeah, there you go. Well, if you're a masochist, you might enjoy the suffering. However, what I meant was, as you're going through this stuff that is challenging, one of the best things you can do is remain calm versus freaking out. Because I was telling people as I'm going through all this, like, oh well, you're handling it very well. And I'm like, probably, maybe. I feel like I might be the duck, you know. You all know the duck analogy where it's like you're on the water and then all of a sudden underneath are the crazy feet going— so, um, that's what I got for you guys. Mr. DJ, are you unmutable? Are you— oh yeah, okay. All right, so let me know. A, roll call. B, what should I pay attention to?

All right, well, giving you the most recent update, Viejo was the last person in the room. Of course, before that we had Guns and Barbecue. Chris Broncato was out there, so is Keith Gregory. Nice to see Mike Bellinger out there. Mark Thomas is active in the text chat. 2 Live Moo out there shaking it. Got the JH586. Jamie is out there. Gun Websites was the first in the room, and coming up to your screen right now is something from Jamie, JH586. He says, quote, the The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness. I dig it. I'm not sure what to— who to attribute that to, Jamie. Um, so like, let me know where that comes from. I'd like to have people know that as well. That's your roll call.

Yeah, thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Um, yeah, so actually, yeah, to add one more thing to all of that, um, it is all about how you choose to look at life, and we forget that we have a choice and that we get to choose what we're focusing on. And that's probably the biggest mental health thing that we can ever do. Now, having dealt with depression and that sort of stuff, there are times when you can't turn it off, right? But if you can try to remind yourself— yeah. Oh, Matthew, not— okay, that sounds more Psalm-like to me, but that's okay. I'm, I'm not as well-versed as I once was, I'm not gonna lie. So, um, and it's so funny that you should use that as the analogy because here's another thing that added on to that. Today was my mother-in-law's 85th birthday, and my mom was going to help me out, and my mom was going to get, uh, one of Nadia's friends to hang out with her because she still wasn't quite good enough to go to the party. And my mom was going to get the CVS stuff from the pharmacy and then go get the other kid that was going to come keep Nadia company. Well, I call her this morning and she— her eye is all infected and she can't see. Well, she can't see out of it anyway, but she's in pain. So it's like the eye thing is, is, um, it's ironic. Ironic, get it? Eye, ironic. No, that wasn't really what I was going for, but, um, that you would use that because it's like that was one more thing that I thought I had taken care of, and then that got taken away. And you're just like, you just roll with the punches. It's like, okay, that's not how that's gonna work, so we're gonna find another way. And just remembering that you are resourceful, um, pretty much Always. And sometimes it's hard to be resourceful and bouncy and all those things. However, you do have abilities to get stuff done. All right, I'm going with Mark. Stoics are great inspiration and influence as well, if you can understand how, why, what, uh, Stoicism is. And the shortest version um, of Stoicism to me is it just is. And if you can do nothing is good nor bad, it just is, all of a sudden stuff can change. However, it's really hard to do that. Um, yeah, of course. Um, Yes, Guns of Barbecue is blind. And no, you're not full of darkness. But yes, both of your eyes suck. But it's not what you focus on. You focus on what you can actually do. So there is that as well. Um, and my mom's blind in one of her eyes as well. But, um, and you can still see, and you see the light because I watch you look at things, and I know you can still see stuff. So not as blind as you could be. Not like, uh, Patriot in the Dark. Uh, Patriot in the Dark is fully blind. But again, like Jamie originally said, it really is about your choice and what you want to choose. Um, so, all right, stoicism is not being tough, it's understanding of— so yeah, no, and, and just being has nothing to do with being tough. It's It's in— it's challenging. It's a difficult thing to wrap one's head around because there are plenty of examples that we can say that are obviously just bad things. And at the same time, if you can look at stuff just as they are, in that they're just occurring, and, um, and if you can help yourself from labeling bad or good and just All right, Mark, help me out on this. Uh, what is the saying? It's like, um, just— you are a human being, not a human doing— is one of the things that comes to mind. But there's a— there's another saying where it's just like, imagine if life is happening for you, not to you. That helps get us out of the victim mentality, because so often we will find ourselves saying something to the effect of 'Why does this always happen to me?' And that's us being— playing the victim, which is not helpful to us. But if we can look at our pain and suffering— sorry, mouse, whatever, it's fine. It wasn't a mouse, it was a moth flying, and all of a sudden I saw it out of the corner of my eye. But when we look at anything that is uncomfortable, if we can remind ourselves that it is a way for us to grow. Things are not happening to you, they're just happening, right? And if you want to put that positive spin on it, they're happening for you, because pain or joy helps you grow. Pain helps you figure out how to get through stuff. When you break a bone and it mends, that's when it's stronger. So when we go through pain and we learn abilities and ways to get through that, we are now stronger because we now have more tools in our toolbox. And, um, accepting them and adapting, right? So, and don't worry, Tara, it's okay that you're late. You're not late. I started early actually, so there was that. So it looks like we've been here longer than we really have, but we really only started at 9. So, um, yeah, choosing, like, back to the original one that Jamie said, is like The choice of dark and light is you get to choose what you focus on. For example, I'm trying to look at the cat— at the calendar. I've got a calendar over there. Actually, I'm trying to look at the camera so that it looks like I'm looking at you guys, but then I saw the moth off the side of my— I'm like, I thought it was a really big mouse, but it was not. But I can focus back on you guys. And life is— although I'm gonna go with Guns and Barbecue, that moths are demon butterflies sent by the devil. And you guys have gypsy moths that are the size of dinner plates from the devil? I did not know. I mean, our moths are really not that big. So, um, yeah, so stoicism. Yeah, if you can, if you can walk, if you can wrap your brain around stoicism and figure out how to accept things as they are without saying good or bad, um, it can change your life without a doubt. And nothing is easy. Nothing worthwhile has ever been easy. Um, so I'm sorry, see, this is why I should just hide these so I don't look at them, but can't, or, um Cheesy Ghost saying camera position key. I'm not good at positions where you look at or where you're near. Yeah, so on my computer it's a lot easier. Um, this is a laptop, so it's not quite the same. I'm gonna hide all of those. All right, anyone disagree with anything? You're allowed to, you know. Or what is something that at the time was crazy painful, but looking back at it, you realize that, ooh, if that thing didn't happen, I would not be— I would not have the skills that I now have to work with something like that thing. So I have lots of examples in my life which I'm not going to bore you with all tonight. For those you've been watching for a long time, you already know a lot of them. But even that person who's a total toolbag and you just can't stand being around, that person is there for you to teach you how to deal with that. It may not be enjoyable, but if there's a total jerk around you on a regular basis, like let's say a co-worker or something And you're just like, oh, every time they come in, it's just like, well, maybe this is the opportunity for you to learn how to not care about somebody else, somebody else's disposition. Because, hmm, we will be so much happier with the stoicism kind of mindset as far as it just is versus good or bad. And just like being in a traffic jam It's annoying, right? But you're annoyed with a bunch of other people, and then, you know, you get to that point in that traffic jam where usually we have to merge, right? How many of you call somebody a bad name who you've never met, who you'll never see again, but because they didn't let you in? I'm waiting. I'll let you see. Go ahead, answer that one. I know I have. I've called people I will never see, I have called them not nice names, and they didn't deserve any of that. We're just all in a traffic jam all together, and they may or may not have had grace for me for not getting in when I should have back there. And there's never a good time to merge in a traffic jam, it seems. However, if I had grace on a regular basis, and I just— I'm just there in the traffic jam, and I'll get in whenever I get in, when someone decides to let me in, then I can be grateful for the person who let me in versus being angry at the person who did not. And so if I focus on the person who let me in and I am just grateful for the fact they let me in, then I'm a happier person. With the stoicism thing of it just is and it's just an event that's occurring right now. And right now is all that we have— you and me and all of our wonderful folks over there in the side chat. And DJ, I'm going to warm you up for, you know, giving everybody another shout out here because I want to thank everybody that is here. Um, but yeah, it's like so many things. I heard you, so now I'm going to make you say it since I said I'm going to warm you up and let you go.

Well, right on. Chasing Ghosts was the most recent addition to the room, and starting off the evening out there in the text chat was Gun Websites. We also have Jamie JH586 out there. The Two Live Moo has also joined us. Got Mark Thomas out there. A lot of participation from Mark in the text chat. Thanks for that, man. Mike Ballinger is out there. So is Keith Gregory. Chris Broncato joined us this evening. So did Guns and Barbecue and Viejo. Glad to see him out in the room this evening as well. And what I'd like to do now, Brooke, if you can come back over, is to bring up this comment from Gun Websites. He says, things happen all the time, but we are in a certain place at a certain time for a reason. Maybe or maybe not, but we get the opportunity to experience these things. That dovetails in quite nicely with Stoicism. It does. And your example of traffic, working towards the most good by looking at things with, with an open mind kind of thing and allowing that which works to surface is sometimes difficult to do, especially in traffic. I dial it back to one of the public radio stations at the bottom of the dial, and I either get jazz or I get classical music. And so that helps to facilitate a more stoic response than, yep, whatever it is that you toss out at somebody you don't know and who probably wasn't doing anything that you would yourself have done if you were in their position in traffic. So that take a breath, realize where you are, experience the things in the moment. And I need the gentle, sweet strains of some violins or something by a Baroque composer to help bring down, to help me gain composure. Kind of like the way that that worked out.

There you go. Yeah. And I mean, you and I were talking about the fact we really should do a, um, one of these episodes on music, like specifically, because like you were talking about Ogiwoda, like jazz or classical or something like— it's like, yeah, if you're listening to death metal while you're in the traffic, you're not as likely to be nice. Maybe depends on your disposition. Maybe death metal actually calms you down. I'm not here to judge, but I am confident that each and every one of us has a different sweet spot for what music makes us happiest when we're stressed.. And one of the hardest things to do is when you're stressed, remember to play that music because I know when I get distressed and I'm like, huh, I haven't listened to music for a while. That's part of my problems. I know for me, music makes a huge difference. And DJ, I know for you, music makes— I mean, because you make music and get to listen to music and get to see the effect it will have on people sometimes.

Now in radio, you don't get to see that direct effect. But in a club, you get to watch people's response to what it is that you're giving them through those beats, through those melodies. And it is really cool when you— what you look out right before a bass drop that you know is coming in or some quick stab, you know, triple beat stab or something like that that's going to segue into the next record. And you see people's expressions and they sometimes they would look at, you know, they look at you sometimes. And that feels like it made me feel as if I would, almost as if I was the performer themselves, because I am sort of in that, in that role, then I was at least. So it, it's nice to see the effect that we can have on others. And that's something that, you know, we got a text, we have a chat coming up later, um, after this program from Hillbilly Up, and he has a great theme, um, and a motto, you know, make someone's day better sort of thing. That's also the sort of message that we We don't push, but we kind of pump up over here as well. You know, grab some perspective. You know, give somebody a smile. Ask how somebody's day is. Realize that the place you are in this spot in time is not the only spot that you will have, and it's certainly not the spot that others are in. So yeah, a little bit of extra respect can help that out quite a bit. And like I was saying, sometimes the radio will help to soothe my soul for sure. The savage beast at least sometimes needs those beats and rhymes.

Or, or Ming there. Ming was a merciless— Ming the Merciless, right?

Yeah, yes. As I said earlier, I did not mean to have this icon when I came in. It was the last one that I used, so it's all good. I think enough people know me and enough people actually associate that icon with me anyway that it's not lost in translation. But Jimmy has got something out here, JH586, on your screen. The music you choose to listen to becomes the soundtrack of your life. Most certainly does. So you were talking about, you were mentioning, well, what music is it that makes you happy? Think about those tunes, maybe sing them. Just recalling them will probably bring you back, bring back some good memories. I think that forever I will think about some of the relationships and times that I had, not in high school, but in junior high, because that's when a lot of us became in control of our own music, able to buy cassettes. We didn't yet have cars, so we weren't in control of the radio unless we had very liberal parents. When it came to selecting which stations you were gonna listen to, let alone the music. You know, and we also had Walkmen back then. So once the headphones came in, it wasn't such a big deal. We had some control over what we were listening to, but as soon as we could program it for ourselves, we began to generate those soundtracks independently for our lives. And those, you know, some of those recess periods in junior high, mind you, we still had one lunch recess a day. We were like too mature for that. We're hanging out in the library spinning records. And creating some memories in those ways. And so now I just thought of Mr. Mark Renfeldt, Mr. Jay Denn, and Mr. Brian Oakleaf. And, uh, I spoke to one of them just today. So sometimes those good times and that music will be bonded with you for life and with others as well.

Well, and also just like how stuff gets sticking— stuck in your head. Like, I just dropped a link to a song that's totally stuck in my head, and I can't play because I don't want to get cut off for copyright purposes and all of that. But it's, uh, called A Good Day. And, um, and so it's just like, it literally says, about to have a good day. And I promise I'm not gonna sing to y'all, but, um, it's like the lyrics also make a difference.

So hold on, is that a link for Ice Cube's Good Day?

No, no, no, no, no. Okay, a different artist. This is a dude, this is a Christian dude. This is a, you know, it talks about God and Um, you know, just about to have a good day because God knows your name and stuff like that. And it's just like, it's just sort of a, a, a, for me it's a poppy upbeat sort of, uh, thing that gets stuck in my head all the time. And like, I'll, what happens with me is I will get a song and I will play it for like an hour or two and then it'll be a week or two and then it'll be 3 days or 4 days here and there. And then it goes away, but it always gets stuck in there for a while. But like VA was saying, the, you know, great to help remember those good feelings from music. So that's cool. Sorry, DJ, what were you gonna say?

No, I was just gonna say, uh, gun websites perhaps flashing back to 1982 saying these headphones will rot your brain. Sounds like something you might have had a parent say. I remember my father not being particularly fond of of a Joan Jett song. I love rock and roll. I mean, what could be more simple? Not quite as innocent as it might have been in the previous era, but really he just didn't like it, didn't like her voice kind of thing. And it like, it bummed me out because, you know, here's my dad who had had all the influence on what I listened to, and I was trying to give him some of my stuff. That was when in like the first 10 cassettes I owned, for God's sake, and I couldn't share the love of Joan Jett. He just wasn't accepting that day. But we were talking though So music, you know, became a part of this conversation, um, and I was thinking earlier in the cast about a song because we had been using the word simple, like taking a look at the simple things, or it's the simple things in life, um, and I thought of the Shaker hymn Simple Gifts. Do you know that?

I do not know.

You would recognize the melody, which I'm not going to attempt, but I will offer you the lyrics, which are pure poetry. Tis the gift to be simple, 'tis the gift to be free, 'tis the gift to come down where we ought to be. And when we find ourselves in the place just right, to be in the valley of love and delight. When true simplicity is gained, to bow and to bend we shan't be ashamed. To turn, turn will be our delight, till by turning, turning we come round right.

Oh yeah, we sing that all the time, like in third grade or something. But, um, all right, we are hitting 9:30 already, and I even started 10 minutes early. Where is G23 when I actually go long? That is my question. So, um, let's wrap it up. Let's talk about joy and pain, suffering and pleasure. We have all of these things in our lives. We have to pay attention, and we get to choose what we're really focusing on. Um, one of my students today, actually, she was talking about gun-related stuff, and she was focusing on the possibility of shooting herself. And I'm just like, no, no, no, no, we focus on finger discipline and muzzle discipline. That's it. When you focus on the things that you want those are things you get. Unfortunately, so much of our world is focused on the things that we don't want in life, as far as, oh, I don't want anything bad to happen, I don't want anything negative to happen. And by focusing on that, people see a lot more of that. So when you're in the garbage, when things kind of suck or challenging, then realize that, okay, this too shall pass. And when you're happy and joyful, make sure you really feel that and you appreciate it, because this too shall pass. And that, my friends, is really the sum-up of talking about pain and suffering and the joy and bliss that is available to each and every one of us in life. And we get to choose, and we have to make it a choice. So with that, DJ, as always, I'm going to let you close it out with your lovely eloquence as usual.

It's not going to be so eloquent because, at least attributable to me, it's to Mark Thomas. I did not think the eloquence would come from Rob Base and DJ Easy Rock, but it has happened right there. Um, thank you very much everyone for coming in tonight. Do me a favor, hit that like, um, offer some comments. Brooke does check them out. And share. It's something we're talking about doing now— our perspectives, our joys, our difficulties, all of those things. So share this out to someone. Doesn't have to be somebody you think, you know, has a difficult patch right now. Maybe it's somebody who's having a great day and you just want to extend out the part of the community that you're joining in with right now. Appreciate all of that. So until we see everybody again, be safe, have fun, Take care of your crew and yourself, and rock! We're out. Have a great day, everyone.