Suicide Prevention Saturday - with Special Guest

What? Here we are. Ta-da!

Hey guys, what's going on?

All right, so it's Saturday.

It is.

So what does that mean? What are we doing right now?

We're doing Suicide Prevention Saturday.

Yeah, and together. It's so hard not to laugh because suicide is a serious issue here. So, uh, we are definitely not laughing at suicide, but we are family, so that helps. Yeah. All right. So here we are, uh, Saturday night, Suicide Prevention Saturday, because as gun owners, we need to make sure people understand 2 out of every 3 gun deaths the CDC tells you about are suicides. And if we want to prevent loss of life, we need to talk about the mental health thing. We didn't plan any of this. She's just being her.

I'm sorry.

Uh, DJ pointed out before that, uh, we're wearing the same color sweatshirts. We did not plan that, just to be clear. Um, so I'm Brooke. I'm the owner instructor here at Great Start Shooting School, little thing up there. This is my daughter Nadia.

Hello, friends.

And, um, she was supposed to come on last week, but she ended up going to a, uh, a game dinner. Oh yeah, game dinner. So she had deer and deer meatballs and different soups and stuff like that. So yeah, this is the encore of when she was supposed to be there.

It's not Encore, it's just a core.

Core. All right, so you want to tell them what we're going to talk about today? Let's see if she can pull herself together at all. We'll see how this goes. This might just be a giggle fest. All right, yeah, apparently not.

Okay, so usefulness of being calm in stressful situations is number one, like the overarching thing that we're gonna go over. Number two is boiling water. You'll get more context later. And the third one is going into the ER. Yeah, and being too polite for her own good.

So in other words, this is my daughter tattling on me a little bit. We did pre-discuss this, so she's going to be super excited when she gets to the 'I told you so' portion of tonight.

I am.

So Um, and just so y'all know, uh, because this is distracting enough, I am not looking at the comments at all. So DJ is—

what do you mean?

Well, no, because see over there, that little button, it says 11. So like at least 11 people have popped in, said hi, all that sort of stuff. But I'm gonna try to focus on you guys and her. So DJ is going to pull any questions as we go. Um, so DJ knows this, but I just want to let you all know, if you're saying hi Brooke and I'm not saying back right now, Um, with that, due to the fact there are already 11 comments, DJ, would you like to do a quick roll call?

Absolutely. Uh, Thea is last in the room. We're joined by Guns and Barbecue. Guns was calling for, uh, yeah, he was calling for Max as well, but, uh, decided to be satisfied with Nadia. So welcome in.

Max might be coming in a week or two, but next week is G23.

So, all right, go ahead.

And, uh, PNW— the former PNW Woods— Woods is out there as well tonight.

Hello, Woods.

All right, is that everybody? We got everyone?

Yes, ma'am.

All right, sounds good. All right, so a couple weeks ago, I'm sitting on the couch and my sweet child, um, is waiting on me, and she— I asked her to make me, uh, tea. And so she brings me tea, and then she brings me honey, and I said, I don't like that honey. So I've sent her back to get the other honey. So I'm sitting on the couch, there's a little table in front of me, and, um, she goes and get the other honey. She hands me the honey, and then what happens?

When we're in between— I don't hold honey like this— well, in between holding the— I'm handing the honey to her and I let go before she actually has it, and it just so happens that the mug of boiling hot water that I just brought to her was right beneath where we dropped said honey. And I don't know how to explain how it went down because we were in like stress mode because it was something bad happening, but the honey fell into the mug and it like did a little volcano thing where the honey just went down like—

I actually think it was this mug.

It was not that much.

It was not this mug. No, but imagine a jar of honey dropping into this, perfectly fitting just inside. So just enough so it submerges completely, splashing all of the boiling water because she had just put the tea down, um, all over the table. Oh, there was a laptop there.

There was also a laptop.

And all over my legs.

Yep.

So I think the funny part here, yeah, is that for me— for you, like she was saying, when you're under stress, everything slows down. So literally watching the honey drop in here, watching all the hot water splash out everywhere, some going on the laptop but mostly going on my legs. So I now have boiling water on my legs. At which point I sort of look at her in disbelief because this just happened in the slow motion thing. And then I get up, I take my pants off because, you know, a burning thing, you want to get off the stuff that is burning you. And she goes for the laptop.

May I go for the laptop?

Flip it over, turn it off so it doesn't short out. And so at this point I'm doing everything and I'm composed.

She is so composed. I'm like, Does boiling water not hurt that bad? I was so convinced that she was like fine or that it didn't hurt that I was like, and instead burns really suck a lot.

And it did hurt.

She showed me later.

Yeah. Over the weeks, blisters and all that kind of stuff.

The yuckies.

So my whole thing when this all occurred was, ow, this hurts. Then I'm like, okay, I need to remove any cloth or anything so that it doesn't continue to burn me. And so that's why the pants came off. And then, like I said, she worried about the electronics.

And then— Well, you sound fine.

No, no, no. And then so afterwards we did an after-action report and be like, so what could we have done better? And this is where she told me that she thought boiling water didn't hurt.

Yes.

And so that's why we—

I was so surprised too. I was like, doesn't that hurt?

Oh yeah, it hurt.

It did.

It hurt a lot. But had we— so we talked about, had I freaked out, thrown everything, started screaming, we would have made a bad situation worse.

I could have been boiled.

Yes, because she was in front of me. If I had jumped up and dropped the laptop, put boiling water everywhere, way worse. And the hysteria of when someone screams, it generally freaks other people out. So the good news is I was thinking through what could I save? How do I best deal with the challenge that I'm currently having, which is my leg burning? And you know, how do I do the least amount of impact? So when we're talking about what could have been worse, and that was the— if I went crazy and went, just jumped up and I could have burned her, uh, destroyed the laptop, all that could have done wreaked so much havoc.

Wreaked so much havoc.

So much havoc. So boiling water on the leg and just how our minds were working at the time. She went for the laptop. I went for how do I stop the burn? And afterwards we talked about, okay, what was good? What was bad? Obviously the best thing would've been if we hadn't dropped the honey, but we can't go back that far. No. So The usefulness of stress when you're under stress to be able to remain calm.

Yes.

We were— what was the other story? Oh, I know. We were watching a show called Scorpion.

Yeah.

And there's a— it was a mom was telling a story about how she just lost her job. She had nowhere to live. She was about to be on the street and she had her son with her. And that was her little brother. No, it's her son.

Oh, it's her son. Oh, it was.

And so if she'd freaked out at that point in time, she wouldn't have had the wherewithal to walk into a restaurant, ask for a job, get the job because she was cool and composed. At the end of the day, when her son was no longer around, she went and cried because it was a lot of stress. So the usefulness of calm in stress is allowing you to get through the thing that you're trying to get through and to pay attention to what's happening as far as how do I not make a bad situation worse? Because we're generally stressed out by bad situations.

It's true.

So, but yeah, when we did the recap, I was surprised when she's like, I thought maybe boiling water didn't hurt.

I, I thought, I thought it hurt a lot less than I would have like originally thought.

So later that day when I showed her the blisters on my legs and stuff she understood that there was actual pain involved. Burns really are kind of the suckiest.

Yeah.

So because they just totally suck unless they're really, really bad burns and then they burn all of your nerves and then you don't feel anything. But that's a whole nother problem. All right. So that was like 2 weeks ago. Now we're going to go back to last week.

Last week. Only last week.

Well, a week ago Friday. Right. So a week ago Friday, a week plus 1. Yeah, so Friday I'm teaching all day. I have a headache.

She ignores.

I get migraines from time to time, not so awesome. And, oh wait, sorry. So DJ, are there any comments or questions we should take before we go to our next jump in this whole conversation?

Well, Mike White wanted to make sure to say hello to Nadia specifically, but carry on ladies, carry on.

Thank you. All right, all right. All right, so last week I got a headache, and sometimes every couple years I get a migraine that I can't control with my normal meds. And last Friday was that day. So go ahead, go ahead, this is your time.

So I get home from school, I think, or no, I get home from school and, you know, I do whatever teenagers do, eat like half the house. Of food and then sit down. And I'm sitting there and mom comes in, she's like, oh, got this headache, I'm gonna take an Excedrin migraine, I'm gonna take another one in an hour. And I was like, how long has this been going on? And she's like, all day, but not like that. But I'm exaggerating. She tells me it's been going on all day and I'm like, I think it's one of those like not so crazy insane old bananas migraines. And she's like, oh no, let me just wait another hour, we'll see what happens. The Excedrin hasn't it hasn't actually kicked in yet. And I'm like, you've been taking Subdren all day, it hasn't kicked in yet. And so she goes and like teaches another student or something, right? You go and teach another student, comes back still migrating, out of this world. She lays down. I'm like, oh, do you want to watch TV? And she's like, yeah, right, sure. We watch TV and she's sitting there like writhing in pain silently.

There's only a small bit of exaggeration. No, I'm holding my head with an ice pack.

She's holding your head with an ice pack, not speaking, barely moving, light hurts her. And I'm like, Mom, you need to go to the ER. And she's like, no, I'm fine. And she's like, oh, I just need to sleep it off. And I'm like, okay, I'm getting mad. And so I was getting so mad.

She texted her dad next.

No, I called dad.

Oh, you called dad?

I called him. Ring, ring, ring, ring. Hello, this is dad. I'm like, hi Dad. I'm like, hey Dad, Mom is having a really bad migraine and I need you to take her to the ER. And he's like, okay, we'll be back in a little bit. And I'm like, love you, bye.

They were Boy Scouts.

They were Boy Scouts. And so Dad gets home and she is in her bed trying to sleep it off, which doesn't work. I'll give you a—

Most of the time it does.

Most of the time it does, she says. And dad gets home, it's my bedtime, so I go to sleep all angry. I'm so angry, I sleep so hard.

I go to bed so angry sleeping. Who knew that was going to be a thing?

Oh my God, it does.

Okay.

Yes. And so I hear the next morning that she and my father had to go to the ER at 2 in the morning because her headache didn't go away.

I drove myself at 2:45 AM. Yeah, I did not bring Dad. I, I considered waking you up because that way you wanted to go. So she wanted to go to the ER with me. I did. Yeah, but so, but it's 2:45 AM, but on a non-school day, but whatever. So 2:45 AM, I wake up, my headache is still not there. I have a full day of class on Friday. So, oh yeah, so yeah, it actually started on Thursday. That's right, because there's Scouts on Thursday. So anyway, 2:45 AM Friday morning, I'm waking up and I'm like, ooh, I'm not gonna be able to teach all day. And I had students all day, so I dragged my butt out of bed, I hop in the car, I drive to the ER, and I'm just like, yeah, here for a headache, I can't make it go away, once in a while I have these. And I brought my meds in so I could say this is what I took, this isn't working, so on and so So I have a lovely doc. He was adorable. He was like, like Mr. Happy Happy Joy Joy at 3 AM in the morning. I'm like, oh my gosh, he's so cute.

Yes.

Um, so, uh, he's like, okay, we'll start you in on IV. And I forget the name of the drug that they give me, but like I said, something, whatever. So my, my nurse comes in and he runs my IV. It doesn't feel quite right. So I'm sitting there and it's like, it's really uncomfortable and it's really uncomfortable. And as I'm sitting there, it's getting more and more uncomfortable because, you know, I'm not one to complain, uh, but it's not comfy. So because I did my EMT training, I learned that we're supposed to stay soft and squishy. When we start getting hard to touch it's not a good thing. So my arm is getting hard to touch and my— it's very uncomfortable. So it probably took me sitting there for 10 or 15 minutes before I felt like pushing the nurse button. And I'm like, I don't think this IV is right.

She's getting a goiter.

And so the nurse comes in, turns that off, gets a paramedic. The paramedic does my other arm. All is good in the world. Except here we are a week and a day later. My arm is still sore from that crappy IV.

Because she wouldn't speak up.

So there's also the other side of being too calm because I really probably should have told the nurse as soon as he put the IV in that it didn't feel right, but I didn't want to complain. And I'm a baby. I don't really like needles being stuck in me to begin with, but at the same time, I also probably should not have waited as long.

So there is same thing for when you had the migraine in the first place.

Because she told me so.

I did. I told you so.

So, so the calm in the stress situation, bonus. And you know, there's pros and cons to everything. So that's it. That's what we got for this evening. We got that. She got to say I told you so on air.

I did. I love doing that.

So, but, and these are just examples that just happened to happen in the same week. Maybe no, 2 weeks apart. Cause I think the T thing was like longer ago. I don't know. I've still got scars on me.

Whatever. So there's that. It still happened.

Yeah.

She's got the, she's got the battle scars to prove it. I do.

I still have the bruise from the IV and everything, but I bruise like a Georgia peach.

So there's that. I got a random bruise on my knee the other day.

Okay. All right. So back to Sous Chef Brunch Saturday. What are we talking about? The importance of being calm under stress, under bad conditions. In the gun training world, it's super important as well. When you are handling something that looks like this, we want to make sure that you stay calm. Like, y'all who shoot semi-automatics, you know, the hot brass comes out and can find its way somewhere down your shirt. Super painful. You need to stay calm because My students will wave this around when they're trying to go for their hot brass. So boiling water, hot brass— the more exposure you have to things that hurt, the easier it is for you to calm down.

So, but it also depends on who you are.

It does. Well, yeah, but practice helps.

So yeah, practice. Okay, I want to say something. Practice doesn't make perfect. Practice makes improvement. That's all I'm gonna say, period.

Wait, you wanna grab that one? Which one? Under the duck butt.

Under the duck butt?

Yeah, show everyone the duck.

Hello, duck.

Yeah, so grab that other thing.

There it is.

All right, go ahead, show them. Yes.

Yeah, practice makes perfect, so be careful what you practice.

That's especially for people like DJ who are watching on their phone right now.

So why call out DJ, man?

Well, because I know he's watching on his phone. That's like, yeah. All right, so we got all that, we got all that. So stay calm under stress. By all means, melt down and cry when you need to after you've gotten through the hard thing.

Know the right time.

Yes. All right, DJ, what do we got for any comments, things? Yeah. Oh, look at him.

See, quotable quote, quotable quote. Indeed you are. And so I also wanted to welcome in, um, Gun Metal Guy USA came in a little bit late to the discussion but was glad to be here. Let's see, Gun Websites also did. Stephen Sheets was in the room. If I didn't mention that Fiona was— Fiona, she is ever present. And so was Tara Smith's Kitchen. So I did have something that was kind of interesting from Woods. Asked for a question and got this one. So Nadia, is it weird for you to grow up in a pro-gun house compared to your friend's parents And what's your favorite to a person who is not your mother?

It was, it's, you know, it might be kind of weird to grow up in a pro-gun house compared to my friends' parents, because I think that they are far more like, like, I don't want to sound rude, but like kind of more closed-minded, I think, and less accepting of other viewpoints. They don't have to face it as much as we do as a— just as a family, period. And what's my favorite 2A person? I don't know what 2A person is.

So like, I'm a Second Amendment advocate, violence prevention and suicide prevention, right? And so, um, pretty much all my other gun friends are also additional 2A advocates.

Who's the one that come—

who's A pirate.

Tyranny's dad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I have a, I have a student who's been with me since 2014 and our families go to places together. So, and we call him the pirate because he's got earrings and he rides a Harley and he just, he looks like a pirate. He's spiky. He looks a little bit like one of the Lost Boys actually. So not a name anyone would know, but that would be the other person.

I think.

Right on. Thank you for that.

Yeah, happy to. Yeah.

And as far as Woods goes, I just want to say, yes, I know revolvers never burn.

It is pretty awesome to be in a pro-gun house. I'm so many things.

Yeah. I mean, experiences. She got to go to her first rally at 5 years old at the Capitol. Is—

count them on my fingers—

she was introduced to, uh, you know, just the government in general, being aware. Because I didn't know anything about guns, and I didn't know anything about our government. Once I got into guns, then I'm like, oh wow, there's a lot of stuff here that people should actually pay attention to. But without firearms, I had no idea.

A gateway. Like drugs, but not drugs.

Oh, but see, I'm gonna throw up a few days too. You're not advocating for my health.

Yes, I am.

Oh, and to Fiona, yes, I'm feeling better. Um, the migraines are just one of those things. I have them and they come and go, and usually if they've lasted more for 10 or 15 hours is when I tend to go. Um, to the hospital. But I was really kind of hoping that I could just get through it. I was wrong.

You were so wrong.

Yes.

Oh my God.

And so—

and I was so right.

And she didn't want to go to the hospital.

I was gonna drive you, so— but it came to that.

Yeah, well, any excuse, because she's not 16 yet, so she can't drive yet. But thank you, Gunmetal Guy. I also am glad that I am okay, and health is the next thing I'm planning on focusing on a lot more. Drinking water, taking vitamin D, those are two that are super important just for general mental health. Most of us are true low on vitamin D, and that's one of those mood enhancers.

Being out in the sun.

All right. Oh my goodness, she's not going to answer this question because she does not know, but go ahead.

I don't know.

It says, what's Nadia's favorite gun?

Whatever Max's is, his custom one, the one that says the rifle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever that is.

You tell them we can't talk about that in Connecticut. Oh, we can't? No, right now we are actually, um, yeah, are we coming? Oh, it's just, well, we're currently— all of Connecticut is currently in a— CCDL is in a court case against the state of Connecticut for the rifle bans, and we actually don't know where all of that stands, so we're not going to talk about rifles right now. That's how great it is to try to be a law-abiding gun owner in Connecticut. So, yeah, yeah, it's kind of crazy. So she really likes the Ruger 10/22.

I do.

Yes, because I'm sure I do, that your dad made for you that has the adjustable thing that fits you just so, and it's little and it's light. Um, so that is actually— because that's when you go to rifle club, that's the one that you is your 10/22.

Nice.

So I do like that one. She has, um, but yeah, I haven't shot Max's, so no. But she does like a rifle more than handgun.

I do. I like your teal one.

Yes, it's pretty. It's cute and little.

It's little.

That is a Walther in robin's egg blue.

Robin's egg? Tiffany?

I know I call it Tiffany blue, but Tiffany is actually copyrighted. Again, back trying to be log biting. There's just too many.

50.

Yes, that's cute. Well, because it does, it goes pew pew. It's very light. So couch Glocks, great idea. Oh wait, what'd I miss?

Revolvers don't melt.

Uh, oh wait, revolvers don't get chewed up by the dog. Couch, couch Glocks. Yeah, you're— it's very sad to have a gun turn into a chew toy. That's like a seriously expensive chew toy. It's like, at least you didn't leave me with strong dog teeth, man. So there's that.

What kind of dog you got?

I think— does he have Shepherds too? I think he might have a Shepherd too.

Yeah.

So, all right, all right, anything else? I don't know. Oh well, yeah, the, um, who's in what's it.

I know you are, Payne.

Oh, I just read the— I know your pain. I wasn't going in the grammatical police area, but in case anyone else should wonder, Gunmetal Guy knows the difference between your as in you are versus your as in possessive, in case anyone else needed another grammar lesson today. So that is that. All right, anything else?

Anything else, DJ?

You have any questions about our lovely little story about the usefulness of calm in a stressful situation?

No, I'm glad to have it reinforced. It's hard to remind yourself in that moment, but CALM will definitely help the steps that you take next, no doubt. Ladies, I am dropping right now into the text chat a link to today's conversation in order that others may pass it along. I encourage everyone out there in the crowd, maybe send it to two friends today, or someone maybe that you haven't talked to for a while who you're not having the best friendship time with. It's the kind of thing that can bring folks together. Simple conversations are best. Some days aren't they? And that's all I got for you guys.

All right. Oh, and yeah, I'm so— yeah, GT3, uh, may not be with us right now because I think he's still in his chat, but, uh, GT3 is going to be our pre-record for next Saturday because Fiona is going to be here with me because we're having 10-hour days for our instructor training on Saturday. Um, so next Saturday is going to be pre-recorded. GT3 and I are going to be discussing his suicide attempts and what changed in his life and why he was where he was at and that sort of stuff. So it's— we've agreed we're gonna have a fun conversation about it. It's a serious topic, and so many people want to understand what makes you want to kill yourself. And he did it more than once, and he failed every time. And we're gonna get into all of that next week. So there's my teaser for next week. Um, hopefully we'll have a link up by Tuesday for that. So y'all can do the notify thing. All right. We are out according to this one.

We are.

Yeah.

What do you mean according to this one?

You, you're this one. All right. And we will, yes, it will be very interesting. We did the pre-show earlier and I had to move his interview, but we're going to get it done tomorrow or Monday. And then as soon as we get it done, we'll put it up. So you'll be able to get notified on that. And with that, I bid you all goodbye.

Adieu.

See you later.

Bye, everybody.