What the Bible says About Aliens

There's an 80-year-old global cover-up by governments about the existence of non-human intelligent life. When the truth comes out, it will change every major institution, especially religion. Here is what I have to say to that. There is something spiritual, maybe even theological, about these entities. They are not just advanced, they are other, and there's nothing godly about what's going on. This is demonic.

Obviously, the question we've always asked, is there alien life form? Way out there, that's way, way far away. And what does that effect have on the Bible?

Well, the days of Noah is when you have all kinds of Nephilim and other beings that were hybrids of human and angelic walking the earth. Let's just be honest now, the cat's out of the bag. There are 8 different references to giants in the Bible. Most of them are after the flood. So my question to everybody is, Hey everybody, welcome to the John Bevere Podcast. I'm joined with my son Arden Bevere, and guys, buckle your belts. We are going to do something wild and crazy today. This will actually be a one-off, but Arden, it's because the Holy Spirit woke me up 2 times this week. Yeah, addressing this with me. We're going to talk about UFOs. We're going to talk about UAPs. I know that's crazy. Listen, if you would have told me a year ago I'd be doing this, I would have laughed you right out of the room.

Yeah, but well, actually, you did do that. Exactly. Because when we started and we're talking about this podcast, one of your producers was like, John, I want you talking about this. Yeah, that's right. You talk about aliens. And you were like, whoa, no, no, no, no, no way. That's not me. I want to preach the gospel and preach the word of God. And yet here we are now, a year and a half later. Not because it's the popular thing to talk about, but because there's some— I mean, Dad, I'm excited for this conversation because I looked through your notes and I want— like, as I looked at the things and started understanding this a little bit more, I was like, yeah, that's interesting. Then I looked at your notes and I was like, this makes so much sense. And so I'm hoping I'm not going to jump ahead of you and ask questions.

I'm going to tell you, it's really important that you stay to the end. Yeah, because some of the most important things I'm going to say at the end and they're, they're, they're statements of protection because, okay, let's just be honest now. The cat's out of the bag. I mean, there is a documentary. If you haven't seen it, I think you're on a deserted island somewhere. Everybody's talking about it that it was actually a former— a guy who worked with Steven Spielberg. He loves doing movies and he made a movie. It's called The Age of Disclosure. Now you can, you can rent this or even buy it on Amazon Prime. And he brought in 34— listen to this— 34 high-ranking government officials or naval officials or intelligence officials, and they all testified in front of Congress about the reality of UFOs, which they now call UAPs. All right, UFO is an unidentified flying object, UAP is an unidentified aerial phenomenon. All right, so Hey, whatever you— I might say UFO, UAP, just know I'm talking about the same thing. Now, the reason I kept avoiding this, and I'm like, no, I can't talk about this, I can't talk about this. But this scripture kept coming to me. When Paul wrote to the Thessalonians, he said, now, dear brothers and sisters, this is 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2. Let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Don't be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say. So obviously there was some incorrect things being said. There were some deceptive things being said, but that wasn't what the Holy Spirit was highlighting to me. He said, son, there are going to be believers. He really showed this to me. They're going to be easily shaken by this and they're going to be alarmed. Some might even like question their faith. And that's the reason why I felt, especially the second night, he kept me up for 3 hours. In the middle of the night from 1 to 4. And I finally— the first night he started showing me what to say, and I just thought, I'll remember tomorrow. And the next day I tried to write it down and I couldn't. So the next night when he woke me up again, I wrote— I went up to my office, slipped out of bed, went up to my office and typed this whole thing out like that and then spent the next day organizing it. But I don't want to see you shaken. I don't want to see you alarmed. I don't want to see you question your faith. And I want you to understand that this is something that is real and needs to be addressed.

Yeah. And it's something that as you broke down Scripture, it's clear that this is a part of the end days, which that's why I'm so excited that you are coming out with your brand new book, The King Is Coming, which people can go ahead and preorder or order right now just by going to the link down below.

March 3rd, 2026. I spent the entire year of 2025 writing this book and there are— there might be one other book, but no book of the 25 books that I've written has impacted me personally. There were mornings I couldn't even talk. God had dealt with me so, so profoundly and strongly. It was showing me so much. Now, what we're talking about today, it's not in the book, okay? But this is important. All right, let's just take a few minutes and let's review this documentary. And by the way, you can, you can order it on Prime. To my knowledge, it's still available on Prime. Uh, we're Prime members, so we bought it and we watched it as a family. I had one of our sons and daughter-in-laws with us, and we watched it. But in essence, they say in the documentary— and believe me, there are so many witnesses, it sounds like they're saying it over and over again, but he's trying to establish out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses. Well, he's got about 10. Well, he's got 34 witnesses. Yeah, every word shall be established. But there's an 80-year-old global cover-up by governments about the existence of non-human intelligent life. All right. Number 2. There's a secret program often referred to as the Legacy Program that has been operating since 1947, designed to retrieve and reverse engineer these UAPs. Now, 1947 was the Roswell, New Mexico incident in which on a ranch, one of these UAPs crashed. The rancher found it. I have read his son's testimony. It's mind-blowing because immediately the government covered it up. The man actually on his deathbed started saying again, this is what really happened. And I'm talking about the government official who covered it up. So we have—

and Dad, I think that was good, is I think setting it up, because let's say if I, I am someone that's new to this conversation, and obviously this has been an age-old question, is like, if aliens— and which they're very clear in the documentary to not say that they are for sure out of this world, that they're, they're like not from another planet, or maybe they're from planet— there's no definite answer around that. They're, they're trying to say—

they testify, they're actually saying on this documentary, these beings seem to be intradimensional, not extraterrestrial.

Yeah, and that's what, that's what I think I'm setting up here, is they're very clear not to say that, because I think obviously the question we've always asked is like, is there alien life form? Way out there, life that's way, way far away. And what does that effect have on the Bible? And so obviously someone coming into this conversation that hasn't watched the documentary but has definitely probably had that question pop up— here is this, this setup that there is clear evidence that there has been cover-ups, that there has been sightings, and then there has been very unusual phenomenons that have been happening.

Yeah.

And I think it's just so important as you, as a father in the faith, to actually talk about this, because I remember hearing, I think it was Pastor Matt Chandler. He said this where he said, like, what is it that we in the church should talk about? He said, we should— nothing should be off the table. If we don't talk about it, then we let culture decide and dictate what that's going to look like. And so when this brought up to you, it was very much of a, hey, look, we're going to have this conversation, maybe this will just be a one-time episode or two-time episodes, how many times we have to get through it. But this is so important because if we don't navigate it well and we don't have a spiritual leader speak into it, then it could leave a lot of question marks.

Yeah. And it could also make a lot of us believers not knowing what the Bible says look like we got our head in the sand. And that's what I don't want to see happen.

Well, and there was even a guy in the documentary who confronted the man who was bringing out all this information. He said, we need to leave those alone. Leave those alone. That's demons. And what was in the Pentagon? Yeah. And I thought it was interesting because I was thinking, I was like, man, I wish he would have actually came to him with a clear— as I looked at your notes and actually come to him and said, hey, so this is what I think, what you were discovering. Look what the Bible says.

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So let's get back to this. We got 35 4 former and current high-level U.S. government military and intelligence officials that all testify on this film. They have come before Congress, many of them, including Marco Rubio, who is currently Secretary of State. So we have a current standing, and this is like one of the highest positions you can hold, that is an intermediary between the president and the armed services. All right. So some of these testimonies include dramatic claims. And here's some of the dramatic claims. UAP sightings that defy known laws of physics, non-human biological material recovered from crash sites, even UAP interference with nuclear weapon systems. And we've just heard about that as recently as 2024. Now we've had 366 sightings reported since 2021. All right, these are— think of all the people that think, I don't want to be seen as crazy, I'm not going to report this. So these are people that were so impacted by it they said, I don't care what people think about me, I've got to report this. What's the observables? What are the things these people have seen? And we're talking about skilled naval pilots, Air Force pilots, we're talking about admirals have, have have talked about this. Generals in the Air Force have talked about this. Okay, this is what they've observed. Current fastest aircraft that we have in our military known to mankind can travel 4,600 miles per hour. That's fast. UAPs that they observed, they said they were traveling 40,000 miles per hour. That is 10 times faster than any of our craft. Instantaneous acceleration is what they observed. So in other words, these crafts would go from standing still to full speed, like 20,000 miles an hour, 40,000 miles an hour, just like that. And they said that would literally kill a human being if a human being was in that craft. They said that the SR-71, which is our fastest jet, it takes half the state of Hawaii— of Ohio— just to turn 90 degrees.

Yeah.

Just to turn all the way around. Okay. Okay, so these things can do it on a dime.

Yeah, all right, they can do a right, right angle turn.

That's crazy. All right, UAPs leave no trace, no trails, no exhaust, no thrust. They hit hypersonic velocity without a sonic boom, which we've never been able to do. All right, UAPs move through land, sea, air— you heard what I said, sea, air— without compromise of performance. They would watch these things going in at high velocities in the air, go into the water, not even make a splash. Yeah. Travel that fast through the water, which our fastest vehicles in water are about 35 knots. These things are going like 100 miles an hour or even—

they're going faster.

They're going faster.

But what you said there, you said this really quick, um, they would not make a splash. So there was no like wake that was being created. There was no water that was being splashed up. They would transition from air straight into the water with no no residual effect essentially that was happening. Yet these are Air Force and Navy pilots that are observing them and watching them and showing clear, clear evidence from their radar as it's picking it up.

So a former Naval oceanographer says this in the, in the, in the documentary.

Again, I want to just say this, guys, you have to stay to the end because this is like, it makes sense as you start breaking down what scripture says. Sorry, I just need to say this.

Scripture is going to clarify this for you, and that's what I'm excited to get to, but I got to set up because I realize many of you have probably not watched this. But the oceanographer said UAP have been observed in the ocean, and if aliens are here— which he's one of the ones that think it could be aliens, but many of these people think they're interdimensional, which we'll talk about in a second— he said that's where they would be hiding since 80% of our world's oceans remain unexplored. They are suggesting that the ocean may be a hiding place for non-human intelligence or UAP-associated phenomena. My own son, third-born son, reminded me when we watched this— he watched it with us— Dad, do you remember we saw an alien creature come up out of the ocean and it scared us, and another family was on the beach and they ran? He said that thing came out of the water, it was nighttime, and he said all of a sudden its eyes went pure fiery red. And he said, another family that was on the beach with us ran. And he said, we ran. This was when we were on vacation in North Carolina. Okay. They are suggesting that the ocean may be a hiding place for non-human intelligence or UAP-associated phenomena. Now, I'll get to the scripture in just a moment, but I want to bring out some direct quotes from this documentary. Quote number 1: There is something spiritual, maybe even theological, about these entities. They are not just advanced, they are other. Okay, now here's where I'm going to start bleeding into saying this is where great deception can occur, because I'm going to tell you something— there's no nothing godly about what's going on. This is demonic, and I'll get to that in a minute. So again, they emphasize These beings seem to be interdimensional, not extraterrestrial. I have a tough time with that word. E.T. We— this is a quote. We are not dealing with beings from distant planets, but with intelligence that operate in dimensions beyond ours. Okay. This is really, really amazing. Here's another direct quote. We have non-human biologics recovered from crash events. First one being 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico, which, by the way, it's interesting to me, 1948 is when Israel became a nation. And Jesus talks about the days right before his second coming, and he said, as the days of Noah, so will be the days before his second coming. Well, the days of Noah is when you have all kinds of, yeah, Nephilim and other beings that were hybrids of human and angelic walking the earth. We're going to get to that. That's a little preview of what's coming from the Scripture. Okay, here's another quote. These beings are real. They are not human. We have communicated with them. And here's the key quote that's going to springboard us into the Word of God. When, when the truth comes out, it will change every major institution, especially religion. Here is what I have to say to that. It may change religion, it may change the institution of religion, but it won't change true believers because it only confirms what we already know from the Scripture. This is what science has often done. This is what discoveries have often done. And this is what I believe this is doing. So here's the facts we already know from the Word of God. Colossians chapter 1, verses 15 and 16. Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation. For through him, God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. The heavenly realms doesn't just mean heaven where God's throne is. It's talking about space. It's talking about the firmament where our airplanes fly, where our birds fly all the way up to the exosphere. "He made the things we can see and the things we can't see, such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world." So if you think that everything you can see is all that exists, you're already speaking contrary to what it says in the book of Colossians. So believe me, there are thrones, there are authorities, there are dominions in the unseen realm. If you look at Ephesians, we have another confirmation from another one of Paul's epistles. For we are not fighting against flesh and blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, against hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. That word heaven again, where airplanes fly. If you look at 1 Corinthians 15:40, Paul makes the statement there are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies. Listen to his words. He said there's celestial bodies, terrestrial— there's different kinds of bodies that Bahá'u'lláh talks about. So let's start our study of what the scripture says. Scripture foretells of fearful signs in the heavens just prior to Jesus's return. If we look at Luke 21:11, Jesus, straight from his mouth, said there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. All right, that's number one. All right, let's, let's set this up. The fearful sights, the things in the heavens. Yeah, let's go back to when this all really began, and that's in Luke 10:18 when Jesus said, I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning. And we know from the Book of Revelation Verse 12, chapter 12, that a third of the hosts, a third of the angels, fell with him.

Yeah.

Now there are millions and millions and millions and millions of angels. So when you talk about a third, you're talking about a lot of fallen angels. Yeah.

I think my question around that too is I think when we think about angels falling from heaven and seeing that happen, I think so much of our image of that would look like just angelic beings walking around us. But, um, in your mind, I mean, were fallen angels still possessing of the attributes and the things that they basically had and were experiencing and demonstrating with God in heaven? So understanding is, as they're walking among us, did they have the ability to travel at great distances? Do they have the ability to teleport? Did they have the ability to go through these things?

Absolutely.

Yeah. And I think that's where—

in other words, they can move through space and time, and because they can go from the seen to the unseen. And that's what I'm actually going to bring up.

Yeah.

As, as first of all, something— well, well, if you look at it at Revelation 12:9, because, because you see a reflection of that obviously with Jesus and his reincarnated body. Yeah.

It's him walking right directly into it. And I think that's where we need to almost like reframe how we saw angels, because just based off of my understanding and conversations I've had with It very much feels specific.

What are you talking about with Jesus? In other words, he would just appear in a room.

Yeah.

After all the doors are locked.

After he's—

after he's walking with two guys and all of a sudden, you know, he has dinner with them and all of a sudden he disappears right in front of their eyes. He's interdimensional.

Correct.

His body is interdimensional.

Yeah.

Where they can— you know, he's— he can float up in the air when he's resurrected to the throne in front of all of them.

Yeah.

But he can appear and disappear and be somewhere else just like that.

Which— and then even in this documentary, they highlighted One guy specifically kept saying this, and it seemed to blow his mind, but he said he'd watch as one of these shuttles would come down and it would just sit right there in space, hover for, for 3 hours, and then would just go right back up.

Well, he'd come down to look at it. I remember him saying, and then all of a sudden it was just gone.

And then there was other ones where it's, it's standing in the middle of 120 knots of wind and it's staying completely stationary.

Yeah.

And I thought this was so Fascinating, because I was thinking about— there's a gentleman we both love. He's an astrophysicist, Hugh Ross. And he, he did a deep dive into the Book of Job and has done so many other things. But I love his discovery because he, as he goes through the Book of Job, was understanding him as a scientist in the scientific community. There's things that are framed out that God frames out with Job that scientists have only just recently discovered. And I thought it was so amazing. And I know we'll dive more into this. But they said specifically, as they're talking about these crafts, they said that they exist outside of our space and time.

Yes.

And that's the understanding of why it can go through water or, or any— not be affected by 120 knots of wind. And I just— as soon as he said that, I'm like, what is the Bible already? God's outside of space and time. Like, do you not understand the connection here?

Yeah.

And they're, they're amazed of Oh my goodness, this technology that there's never been talked about before. And I always remember Hugh Ross talking about it. He's like laughing at these scientists that he's like, here's God who has said this from the foundation of time, but yet we didn't clearly understand what was going on.

One example Hugh Ross gives is he said in science up till 30 years ago, and I know this to be true because I have a bachelor's in science from Purdue University, we were taught that darkness is the absence of light, the origin place of darkness.

Yeah.

But yet God in the Book of Job says that darkness is matter.

Do you know where darkness— Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so then they come along and these astrophysicists discover that most of our universe is made up of dark matter, that darkness is actually matter.

Yeah. And that's the origin. That's the origin place of darkness.

And that's the origin.

Yeah. So he's just laughing. But I look at this, it's like—

just like the Bible confirmed what we didn't know until 30 years ago. The Bible already confirmed confirms these UAPs. And that's why we want to show you this, so that you're not shaken.

Yeah.

So that your faith is not shaken. So I love Revelation 12:9 because it says, the great dragon called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world, he was cast to earth and his angels cast out with him. So that's the one I just referenced. But he deceives the whole world.

Yeah.

So what are the ways? This is the question. This is important. This is where I'm going to slow it down because you need to hear this. What are the ways that he deceives the whole world? I think it's very important to point out that Paul says in 2 Corinthians 11:16, Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Now, hold on a minute. It doesn't say he can. It says he does. He transforms himself into an angel of light. In other words, he imitates the way God's true angels would behave. I know of a pastor. There was a young 11-year-old boy who came to his pastor and he said, I haven't even told my parents this, but I was abducted by these beings. And he said they were the kindest and nicest beings, even when they were sticking needles in me. That's what the boy said to his pastor. Now, his pastor said, do you understand this? This is not God. This is ungodly, right? So, you know, I want to say this. I don't want people afraid, but there has been abductions. But the thing is, they have no power. Behold, Jesus says, I give you power over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. That's Luke 10:19. So you have— and he said, don't rejoice in this, that spirits are subject to you in my name, but rejoice that your name's written in heaven. So this is where I'm going to give you a little bit of a taste of where I'm going at the end. Don't become enamored by this. Don't fixate on this. You are to keep your focus on Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our faith. You are not to rejoice that you've discovered there's other beings that were already here the whole time. You just discovered it. You are to set your affections on things above. Set your mind at the right hand of God where Christ is seated. That's where safety is. And we'll get more into that in a little while.

So, and also understand that you've known about this. And this is what I think is beautiful, is you are opening up scripture that just illuminates. I've read this, like, I know, I've seen this already happen. So illuminating that for people.

So Satan transforms himself as an angel of light. So in order to understand what these dark angels do in transforming them, because Satan says so do his ministers, they do the same. So these fallen angels, for them to transform themselves into an angel of light, that's why Paul said, if I or an angel comes and preaches, preaches some other gospel to you than what I've given you, don't believe them. How do they transform themselves into an angel of light? If we understand this, we'll understand how he deceives. All right. So now what do we have to do? We have to look at how did the true angels operate? Isn't that important?

Yeah.

So again, one of the 34 said these beings are interdimensional. All right, so let's talk about interdimensional. Let's think it through. Jesus makes a statement in Matthew 18:10. He said, beware that you don't look down on any of these little ones, talking about little children, for I tell you that in heaven their angels are always in the presence of my heavenly Father. Their angels. Listen how he personalizes. In other words, I believe this with all my heart, God assigns to every one of his children, an angel or angels that are guardian angels. I believe this is what this shows. But now, how are these angels with me and also before the Father in heaven? It's because they're interdimensional. They're not bound by one space and time. I remember Gabriel looks at Mary and says, I am Gabriel who stands in the presence of God. He's, he's in her presence. Yeah, right there in her room telling her she's going to get impregnated by the Holy Spirit. But he said, I stand in the presence of God. Yeah. So how is that? It's because you got to realize the heavenly realm is different than the physical earthly realm. We're bound by space, by matter, by time. Heaven is different. So Jesus is saying they're angels, which tells us what? There are millions of godly, good angels. I mean, two-thirds of them didn't fall with Lucifer, right? Now listen to what the writer of Hebrews says. Don't forget to show hospitality to strangers, for some who have done this have entertained angels without realizing it. Okay. Did you hear what he just said? They literally entertained people they thought were people, but they weren't people. They were angels. Okay, let me give you some stories. I was preaching for a pastor down in Trinidad. We were doing a conference and this pastor— I'd been down there 5 times and this was in the 1980s. And we had developed a very close friendship. And his big church, he had one of the biggest churches in the nation, was in San Fernando. San Fernando was about an hour and a half drive from Port of Spain, Trinidad, which is the capital of Trinidad. And there's only one road that goes from Port of Spain to San Fernando. Now, that road is mostly bush, jungle, whatever you want to call it. It's very thick. "It was a very dangerous road at night. There's a lot of crime at that time." And he said, "John, you never would walk, never would walk. You would never want anything to break down on that road." Well, he said, "I was coming back from a meeting in Port of Spain, driving back to San Fernando." And he said, "My car broke down." And he said, "I knew my life is literally in danger right now." He said, all of a sudden he turns around and this man and a boy were coming from out of the thick woods. All right. And he had a lawnmower. I said, he had a lawnmower? He said he had a lawnmower.

Yeah.

And he pushes the lawnmower up and he looks at me and he said, having trouble? He said, yeah. He said, mind if I look? The man opens up his hood, takes a piece from the lawnmower, puts the piece into the car, grabs the lawnmower, starts walking back into the woods and disappears.

Yeah.

And Nelson said they were two angels.

Yeah.

Okay. I look at Dr. Mary—

starts working.

Car started working.

Yeah.

He drove back to San Fernando. Dr. Mary Neal. I've not met Mary, but I've read her book. She was kayaking in Chile.

Yeah.

Her kayak goes over a 13-foot drop and wedges between two boulders. And she is 2 feet under the water. So the water's beating down on her, breaks both of her legs. Yeah. And she's strapped in, can't get unstrapped because of the pressure from the water beating down. Eventually it breaks, snaps both her legs, and she— she— it breaks the belt and she starts watching her body float down the river. Right. She's dead for over 30 minutes. Her husband, who wasn't kayaking, was reading a book on the shore. They came running, said, hey, there's been an accident. They go looking for her and there she is, washed up on the riverbank down the river a ways. And they're sitting there going, what do we do? All of a sudden they turn around and there's two Chilean men and they have an upside-down kayak. They grab her body, put it on the kayak, and they start macheting their way through the jungle. Yeah. And all of a sudden they've gone a ways. There's a road, a dirt road. And on that road is an ambulance. Ambulance. And there's another Chilean driver. The two men load her body onto the ambulance. Her husband turns around to thank them.

Yeah.

And they're gone.

They're gone.

Then they drive to the hospital. He goes to thank the driver and the driver's gone. There were probably three angels. Hardin.

Yeah.

So what am I saying? Angels have the ability to move in and out of space and time. Yeah, they're interdimensional, godly, good angels. That's why he says some of you are going to entertain them and you're not even going to realize it. All right. So now that we've established that true angels are interdimensional, which means what? That means Satan and his fallen angels can be interdimensional. I know of ministers of centuries back. One, one, one was back in the 20th century. He woke up one morning and there was a demonic I mean, angel standing right at the foot of his bed. He was a very bold minister. I believe it was Smith Wigglesworth. He looked at him and said, oh, it's only you. And he rolled over and went back to sleep.

Yeah. So, I mean, fear.

I mean, just— I'm amazed. All right. So number 2, point number 2, because we're building a case here. Angels can operate without any craft or machinery. We know that. Yeah, right.

But obviously it's this documentary talks about crafts or machinery.

However, angels oftentimes use— I'm talking about angels of God now. Yeah, they use some sort of craft, right? Or some sort of vehicle. Ezekiel chapter 1. This is verses 15 through 24. Now, as I looked at the living creatures, behold, a wheel was on the earth beside each living creature. This is God in his throne with these massive seraphim angels who John, you know, Isaiah calls them seraphim, John calls them four living beings, Ezekiel calls them four living creatures. And he said, each living creature with its four faces, the appearance of the wheels and their workings. Listen to that. And their workings. And their workings. These are wheels. And there are some that say— I heard one pastor who said that in his study, that word workings can mean their mechanics. So the appearance of the wheels and their mechanics was like a wheel in the middle of a wheel. So imagine like a gyroscope. Yeah. Remember, remember, you'd have one on the outside.

Yes.

And what does gyroscopes do? They stabilize.

Yeah.

We use gyroscopes in some of our older, right, our airplanes, ships or whatever. Yeah.

Okay, that's come.

So it was a wheel in the middle of the wheel. When they moved, they went toward any one of the four directions. They did not turn aside when they went. Aren't these vehicles going like this?

Yeah.

All of a sudden making sharp turns. When the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them. And when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were also lifted up. When they went, I heard the noise of their wings. Now, when we hear Ezekiel say wings, we're thinking bird wings.

Yeah.

However, when we say wings today, what do you think of?

I think of airplane, a craft. Yeah, right.

A rocket, an airplane, right?

Yeah.

I heard the noise of their wings like the noise of many waters. Now, does Ezekiel know to say it sounded like a jet engine?

No.

Does he know to say it sounded like a Saturn V taking off? A space shuttle taking off?

Yeah. Well, even, even his description of a wheel is like, that's the probably the best understanding that he knows to compare it to. In their language and vernacular, which is so interesting because obviously when they're talking about these spacecrafts, they very clearly say that they believe— and what they've observed— is it is existing with inside of a circular sphere, that that circular sphere is bending reality, space, and time. And so that's why it cannot—

in the document—

cannot do it. And so you have a circular sphere— and then a craft within this sphere, that that circular sphere is bending as it's growing through. It is bending the time and space and matter all around it. So it's going around that sphere. So like, when I read this, I'm like, this is, this is exactly what he's talking about, potentially. I know he's just— his, his words, his language is different probably than how we would have described it today.

Let's make this clear, we're not talking about these UAPs right now that that are being cited. We're talking about how God's angels operate. Because remember, Satan and his angels transform themselves as angels of light. So I'm showing you how true angels operate. I mean, how about— how about, uh, who is it?

Zechariah.

What did he see? A flying scroll. Yeah. What is a flying scroll? Do you think that possibly it was some kind of a ship that he had no other way of describing? Others, that looks like a scroll. I mean, how's he supposed to say I saw a spacecraft hover flying through the air.

Mm-hmm.

What's, what's the flying scroll?

Yeah. Well, and then I think probably people's questions right now, which I know we're going to get into it, is why would it be a craft in this manner? Like, why was it— maybe it was existing that way. And there is actually a genuine understanding and reason for it that I want to make sure people are waiting and still listening through because it's very important.

Nobody leaves us yet because this is so important.

It makes sense.

Okay, I'm going to give you two more. You got Elijah and Elisha. Yeah. And we read in 2 Kings chapter 2, as they were walking along and talking, suddenly a chariot, another craft of fire appeared, drawn by horses of fire. It drove between the two men. Okay. Why does God need a craft? Why? Why does he need a craft? For what purpose? And I'm going to show you this craft isn't just because We got to transport Elijah because with Elisha, it happens again. But there's a lot of crafts and these crafts are driven by angels. Okay, so watch this. It separated them and Elijah was carried by a whirlwind into heaven. Elisha saw it and cried out, my father, my father, I see the chariots and the charioteers of Israel. And they disappeared from his sight. I told you about Elisha. What's going on? Elisha is seeing what the king of Aram is doing. This is amazing. Yeah. And he's telling the king of Israel, hey, don't go there because the armies of this king are going to be there. And this king gets so angry. He's like, how come Israel knows where I'm going and what my battle— do we have a mole? And one of his officers look at him and says, no, it's Elisha. Elisha is telling the king of Israel every move you're making. Yeah, he knows what to do. So the king of Aram sends his armies to take Elisha. Right. So here's where we're reading. When the servant of Elisha got up early in the next morning and went outside, there were troops, horses, and chariots everywhere. Oh, sir, what will we do now? The young man cried to Elisha. Don't be afraid, Elisha told him, for there are more on our side than on theirs. Then Elisha prayed, O Lord, open his eyes and let him see. The Lord opened the young man's eyes, and when he looked up, he saw on the hillside around Elisha was filled with horses and chariots of fire. Yeah. And sure, godly angels.

Uh-huh.

But why do they need chariots? Yeah. Why don't they just, you know, float around?

And the amazing thing of God or Elisha praying for his servant's eyes to be open, and then he sees them. I think this is kind of what the interesting reason why we're having this conversation is to open our eyes to the awareness of this. But then Elijah's response is Elijah walks out and sees the enemy army and is like, like, that's fine.

Lord, blind them.

Yeah, like, it's OK. Like, we're OK. I see what God is doing in the spiritual realm. I see. I'm aware of that. I know what my mission is, what I'm called to do. What you were saying earlier, don't be distracted, don't be thrown into this, this whirlwind of—

that's the purpose of this podcast.

Yes, exactly.

So we want you to know it's not a surprise to God. It's not a surprise to walking in Christian— living our lives as Christians. It's all in the Bible. And I'm just bringing out scriptures that will show you how this can be. Now, this is where it gets real specific to what we're seeing. The third question is, whose body is it that they retrieved from the crash like at Roswell? Who are— because they said they have actually two different species of these, right? This is where it's going to get really interesting because angels can't die, but yet they found crashed UAP with the being in it. And so we know that being can't be a fallen angel, right? So what does that being— it's so simple. If you go to Genesis 6, You'll find out. This is verse 1. Then the people began to multiply in the earth, and the daughters were born to them. The sons of God. Now, who were the sons of God? If you look this up, you will find out from the Midrash, from all the Hebrew teachers. If you look at the words, it's, it's the fallen angels. Saw, because this is repeated in 1 Peter when they are— Jude, excuse me. When they left their habitation, they were put in chains of darkness. Doesn't say they all left their habitation. It said many of them did. Then the sons of God saw the beautiful women and took any they wanted as their wives. These are angels. Then the Lord said, my spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years. In those days and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth. For whenever the sons of God had intercourse with the women— so these are the angels having intercourse with the women, the fallen angels— they gave birth to children who became heroes and famous warriors of ancient times. Now, I'm going to—

we talked about that a few times ago and understanding, like, that's probably a lot where you see the Greek and Roman mythology coming from.

Yes. Yeah, without a doubt. Where did that all come from?

Because they all died off.

I'm going to give you 3 commentaries. The Sons of God. This is one commentary. The Sons of God appear to be heavenly beings, angels associated with God's divine council who were appointed to oversee various territories and peoples. These heavenly beings overstepped their power, resulting in unnatural elevation of humans to semi-angelic status. In other words, hybrids. Yeah.

Yeah, mixing.

And if that disturbs you, I mean, our Lord and Savior, his dad wasn't a man. His dad was the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Okay, so there you go right there. All right. And while— or here's another commentary: while the majority of critical scholars understand these sons of God as divine beings, the passage fundamentally speaks to a moment when supernatural entities transgressed divine boundaries by sexually intermingling with human women. And the third commentary, because I wanted to get a bunch of commentaries, this narrative develops the idea that God established clear boundaries in creation which are now being breached. Yeah, as wickedness increases.

Well, and then I want to make sure this is clear because obviously you have Goliath and his brothers. That is after the flood. After the flood. So there's, there's two common understandings of why there would still be giants after the flood, because God wanted to wipe all of them out. Number one is, and I think we both said that maybe not as much, but it's that it's from that it's coming from the lineage of Noah's daughter-in-law's, that there was some Nephilim genes that were still continuing to be passed down and then her offspring. The second thing that one is that Yeah, that one, that one, we're kind of like, that doesn't fly very well with— no, it doesn't. No, not to me either. But the other one was that these angels, these fallen angels, had come back and continued to cross the boundary.

Well, or new ones.

New ones.

Because God did chain up the ones that had already done it. There's, there's millions and millions and millions of godly angels. That means there's millions and millions and millions of fallen angels. Now you have to remember, a fallen angel is not seeking a body. But demons are disembodied spirits. Remember the demons?

Which weren't the demons— majority of them, they're Nephilim, right?

I believe the demons were the dead Nephilim. Yeah, because remember, Nephilim could be killed.

Now that's why they don't have a— they don't have a home. It's not— it's not hell. It's not heaven. It's— they're bound to this earth.

The judgment hasn't fallen on them yet. So that's why, just as these angels are making hybrids to try to pollute the seed, even so now I believe we have fallen angels that are— I mean, we have accounts of farms that have been— have cows that have been surgically— their intestines and their blood has been taken out of their body. And we have people that have been abducted and women claiming that they were impregnated and then re-abducted. And who knows? Yeah, well, what I'm saying is we know the angels can't be the, the people that are flying these crafts, because if the person dies, there's no way an angel can die. An angel, a true angel could have a crash in a craft and not die because you can't kill angels. Yeah, right. But you can kill something that was physically made by what? Genetically messing with— by putting some kind of fallen angel with a human, you get a hybrid.

Yeah. Which was a lot of what was happening in obviously Genesis or Noah's time when he was seeing those things. And we even talked about this as the creatures. You looked at kind of examples of the creatures at the bottom of the ocean is that there is some very strange looking creatures that seems almost like if you were just to look at it like, that thing looks like that's been genetically modified in some significant way. And you see that there's examples of this and they were tainting God's creation. And that's why God just said it's gotten so far that I'm just going to restart. So get every single clean and pure animal, essentially the genetic consistent animal that I have created and get them onto the ark, and then I'm going to wipe out everything else.

All right. So Enoch writes about it. He said they took wives unto themselves and they became pregnant and they bear giants and they began to sin against birds and beasts and reptiles and fish. And the earth became corrupt. All right. Here's 1 Enoch 8:1-3. God is actually— Enoch, excuse me. Now, remember, Enoch's not Not in the Bible. It's not in the Bible, but he's quoted by Jude. He's referenced that he walked with God. Yeah. So let's read his book, not as canonized scripture, but let's read his book as we would any other minister. Yeah. He said he actually names the angels. He said one angel taught men to make swords. Another one taught to resolving enchantments. Another one taught astrology, and they corrupted the earth. So you look at all the genetic corruption that is happening right now. You wonder, are these things being taught once again? Except now we're using medical means of doing it. But are these beings also wanting to do this? Yeah. If you look at 1 Enoch 10:8, it says the whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel. Azazel being one of the fallen angels that is now imprisoned. Yeah, first.

But I mean, can we talk about that though? Yes, because obviously there is a significant way that— I think it's either Azel or Azazel, I say— but the way that he corrupted mankind was what? He taught them how to create swords. I think within the documentary, and I don't know if I'm skipping ahead, but they very clearly understand that they have been— they feel like that they've been almost left these crafts. They didn't say like they feel like these crafts were just— they keep stumbling upon them. They actually feel like they have been left these crafts, and that these crafts are not just being left in the United States. It's not just a United States issue. These crafts have been left in all of these different areas, and they feel like they have been leaving them these crafts to engineer the technology that has been put and then used in these crafts. And so what happened with Azazel or Azel. Yep. Is he taught man how to create swords. I'm looking right now and they are engineering these technologies oftentimes to see how can we better our fighter planes, how can we better our technology, cover up.

All of a sudden we come out with stealth bombers that can't be detected by radar. You think maybe—

well, and that's the interesting thing is one of the reasons why they said that they were— they recently detected them so much is that they upgraded their radar system on these airplanes. And as they upgraded these radar systems, they finally started to significantly spot them a lot more. Yes. And so you're seeing this where they're leaving them this technology. And this is one of the reasons why they say that the government has not openly come out about it. They said that the presidents have known.

Oftentimes they have not known.

Yes, some presidents have not known. Oftentimes when it got up to a president, the biggest question always was, is how will this affect the economy and how will this affect our enemies? How much do our enemies know? Are enemies actually further ahead of us in this area? Do they not know anything in this area? Are we the only ones with the crafts? And this is something that's so interesting to me is because they talked about how these crafts would go and they would hover over nuclear sites, and they would activate warheads, they would deactivate warheads. They would just basically show like, we can interfere with what you guys are doing right here. And it's almost like they were just observing is how far is our swords, the swords that we are creating right now, how are we utilizing the technology that they've essentially left for us and given to us in the same way that Azazel gave to man back then and completely corrupted the world by giving them swords. That's what's happening right now. But yet, so there's a part of me that wonders if our genetic modification— because we're doing crazy things genetically right now, we're trying to bring back mammoths, I've heard.

So I mean, could this be something that in the secret programs they've learned how to do, just like the people of old? And, and so I mean, this is all a possibility. Um, I have so much. I— but I want to— I want to get down to how did the early church fathers interpret the corruption of the flesh? Yeah. I look at Justin Martyr, believed that the Watchers corrupted human nature through forbidden knowledge and demonic influence. Irenaeus, who was a disciple of Justin, who was a disciple of John, John the Apostle, said he connected the corruption to the rise of giants and the distortion, distortion of God's created order. Okay. What are we seeing today? We're seeing crazy things happen today. All right. Tertullian, who is a well-known church father, taught that the angels taught humanity technologies and practices that destroyed the nature God gave. What is happening right now? See, I think they're just working but in a different way. Yeah, because they know that we have the technology where they can actually— like, if you're dealing with somebody maybe back in the days of Noah, they have a limited amount that they had already discovered, right? So they had to kind of go to the fundamentals, the foundationals, and they wanted to corrupt. But today you're just wondering, okay, wait a minute, what's going on? And are there these hybrids that are among us? This is a crazy story, but there was a guy who actually, you know, he, he, he met a girl and she was in a party. And he said in the middle of the party, he said something she didn't like and her eyes went red, flaming red. And so I don't know if that story is true, but my question is, could they actually be among us? As well as in these crafts? We don't know. What we do know is if you got giants walking in the land in the days of Noah, and Jesus says, as the days of Noah, so will the days be of the coming of the Son of Man. Yes, he goes on to say they're going to be eating and drinking and all that. But, but is there something more to as the days of Noah, so it will be in the days of the coming? And I find again it interesting that this crash happened in 1947, which kind of like 1948 started marking the beginning of the last days. Right. Because Israel becomes a nation. Yeah. On May 14th, 1948.

Yeah. Can, can I ask you parallels to the Antichrist? Because I think this is actually interesting. As we were talking about this, I remember in the documentary they said, you know, if they come forward with this, one of the things that they think actually could be happening and as a result to this is actually a unification of all nations. And looking at this of the signs of the Antichrist is number one, it's obviously talking about he'll be a powerful political leader. He will be charismatic and persuasive. He will oppose God and exalt himself, which to me, even this whole— that documentary when they were talking about this, how it's going to— hey, this is going to you know, change religion in that way. I kind of felt like that was even a little bit of a, hey, look, it's going to change religion. Like, we're just going to get away from God and let's exalt man. Like the unification of mankind. He will deceive through signs and wonders, and he will make peace or covenant agreements.

Looking at this, you missed a very important one. Yeah. He will worship the god of forces.

Hmm.

Okay.

What does that mean? God of forces.

It's unclear in the Hebrew, but many believe that it's a very occultic thing. Mm-hmm. But go ahead.

I mean, it keeps going. It says he will persecute the saints violently. He will control the global economy and he will empower directly. He will be empowered directly by Satan. He will demand worship as well.

There he's also called Antichrist. Mm-hmm. Jesus, uh, came forth from a human, Mary, being impregnated by the Holy Spirit. Now, would Antichrist— the reason he's called that by the Apostle John— be the fact that some woman was impregnated by Satan himself and a hybrid comes along that looks very much human but now has all kinds of lying powers and deception, is completely filled with unrighteousness.

Yeah, well, and that's, that's why I think I'm asking this question, is I feel like when I'm thinking about the state of the world and this understanding of the Antichrist being able to basically— I mean, maybe I'm reading it wrong— but unify the world. And they say essentially in that documentary, like, this would be something that could either completely go cause everything to go into chaos or something that could unify the world. That sounds nice in theory, but And yet it feels like it's basically what the Bible is, is, has already foretold and is showing with one of the signs of the Antichrist.

I want to, I want to make sure everybody understands something. There are 8 different references to giants in the Bible, and they're not all— most of them are after the flood. You've got Anak, the founder of the race of the giants. That's Numbers 14. So when Israel went to spy out the promised land, they said the descendants of Anak are there who were giants. You've got names given: Sheshai, Ahiman, and Talmai. They were Anak's sons. You got Sippah, a Philistine giant warrior. You've got Goliath, who's over 9 feet tall. You've got Lamai, Goliath's brother. You've got Og, king of Bashan, who had a massive iron bed 14 feet long and 6 feet wide. You've got Ishbi-benob killed by Abishai, who was another giant. Yeah. You've got an unnamed Philistine. Abishai was Job's little brother.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, then you've got an unnamed Philistine giant. Now all this is after the flood. Yeah. An unnamed Philistine giant who has 12 toes and 12 fingers, right? So you've got freaks. Again, this is not before the flood. This is after the flood. So my question to everybody is, couldn't this happen again today, as in the days of Noah? As has been happening even after the flood, it certainly can be happening today. I want to, I want to share something with this as we close. I know we've gone a long time, but there's two dangers I see here. Danger number one is being ignorant and having your faith shaken and even shipwrecked. Yeah, that's the biggest danger— people going, well, if there really are aliens, and does that void everything? Does that make void my faith? No, it doesn't. I'm trying to show you references where you got hybrids and freakish things happening in the scripture. Why can't it happen today? The second thing that I'm very concerned about that caused me to want to do this program is obsessing over this. Um, there's a pastor friend of mine whose brother was a Christian. You know, he wasn't a pastor as my friend was, but he got obsessed with UFOs and literally walked away from the faith. He felt like UFOs negated faith. Yeah. And I've heard other such stories. So So this is one of the reasons that I felt so strongly to do this. It's not like me. There are others that talk about this in a much better way than I do, but I wanted you to hear the words to keep your eyes fixed on Jesus. Yeah, I want to tell you a story. I had a youth pastor who was my assistant back in the days when I was youth pastor of a very, very large church. We had a lot of witches coming into our services and they were getting saved. I mean, it's a very occultic area that we were pastoring in. In Central Florida, and we were seeing a lot of success of, of actually witches and kids in witchcraft getting saved. Well, my assistant pastor felt like he could minister to these guys better by reading books by witches and former witches and understanding how they operated. And I looked at him and I said to him, them, don't do this. The Bible says that we keep our eyes fixed on Jesus. And I gave him an example. I said they did an experiment where they put a finch in a cage with a, um, one of those big snakes. Um, anaconda? It wasn't an anaconda, but it was a boa constrictor. Yeah. The finch went crazy. They had a branch in there, and the finch was like over in the corner freaking out. And the boa just sat there and stared at the finch, didn't move. And after a long while, the finch kind of calmed down, and the finch started looking at the boa. And then it jumped down to the next branch, kept looking at it, jumped down to the next branch, jumped down the next branch, got on the ground, kept looking at the boa. The boa opens its mouth, and this is what happened in the experiment: the finch jumps into the boa's mouth. And the boa consumed it. The Bible says that we are to keep our eyes fixed on Jesus. He's the author and the finisher of our faith. I see it like this: you keep your eyes on Jesus. If the enemy gets in the way, you blast him with the word of God, and you keep your eyes fixed on Jesus. Because we're told, he said, Jesus said, hey, don't rejoice that these spirits are subject to you. Rejoice that your names are written in heaven. And then you've got Colossians, it tells us to seek those things which are above where Christ is. Set your mind on things above. So I'm hoping that I'll actually discourage you from doing a deep dive into this kind of stuff. I really, to be honest with you, once I was done with this today, I'm done with this. You know, I might, hey, I might do this casual reading and kind of enlighten myself, but I'm going to keep preaching the gospel. I'm gonna keep seeking to get people saved, to disciple people, because this is what we're told to do, to keep our eyes on Jesus, to keep discipling people, and don't be distracted. Don't be lured away by what people do or what these creatures do in darkness. It's gonna happen. They're gonna be judged one day. The coming day of the Lord is coming. There will be a new heavens and an earth. Where righteousness will rule and reign, where there will no longer be this kind of corruption and sin and deception and evil. And keep your eyes fixed on Jesus. He's your Savior. He's your Lord. And don't be obsessed by this. That's the most important thing I've said this entire podcast.

Yeah, I agree. And I love that you took the time to actually do this because obviously, like we said in the beginning, It was something when we first presented to you a year ago, it was like, no, there's no way I would ever talk about this. But understanding— and I can just say for myself, as I've been looking at things and looking at your notes, is understanding, which I hope people know, actually, we do a whole basically a discipleship spreadsheet that goes in the bio. So if you guys want to see the notes and everything from it, you can look at that in the description below. But as I was just looking at this, I just thought, you know, how amazing it is that you actually took time to break this down for people. I think a lot of times, similar to as what I said, that, that man in the documentary did, where it's just like, hey, don't, don't do this, don't talk about this, don't— stop investigating this, these are demons. I, I just think I wish he would have taken the time to actually look at scripture and come to that man and say, hey, let me show you what I'm finding in scripture. Do you see— have you seen these similarities? Have you seen these things? Because I think too many times we're quick to just like shut off from something, or then we leave areas of unknowns or doubts, and then it starts welling up inside of us, similar to what you were saying of then it becomes something that unmakes everything that we think and believe. And the fact that you would take time to actually break it down and clearly show, which as I look at this, I'm like, this clearly shows what it is that they're looking at, discovering. That just is so valuable for people who might not get the ever the opportunity to hear someone actually describe this.

It's really simple what you just said. If those angels, fallen angels, taught these women how to do things that mankind never knew how to do before, yeah, how much more today can these fallen angels and these hybrids teach women, teach men teach people how to do things that never should have been taught. And that's what we've got. We've got the very same thing that went on in the days of Noah and even after the days of Noah still going on today. Yeah. And so let's be sons and daughters of the light. Yeah. Let's glorify Jesus and let's stay on task and advance the kingdom of God. Until next time. This has been a wild, wild John Bevere podcast episode. You probably won't see one like this again, but I hope you see my heart. I don't want to see your faith shaken. I don't want to see you unnerved. I don't want to see you moved away from the faith. I want to see you strong. So until then, this has been the John Bevere podcast. God bless you. Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review and also share. With your friends.