Tribe Sister Stories - Find out what they love about TRIBE!

Okay, hey everybody, we are here with some of my Tribe Sisters today. We have, uh, Bonnie and Amber and Kirsten here with us. We may have another one popping in, um, shortly, but these are our Tribe Sister interviews where we're getting to share some of the stories of some of our members, and it's just fun for you guys to get to know them. It's fun for me to get to hear their stories and a little bit more about what they love about being a Tribe Sister. So I'm just going to start with some quick introductions and have Miss Bonnie start us off.

Okay, my name is Bonnie Osha, and I'm a retired school teacher. I got interested in trying to paint when I went to a paint your pet night with friends at Paint with a Twist while I was in Florida for the winter, and I don't even have a pet, but I painted my daughter's pet and it turned out so cute, and I loved it so much. I thought, I want to, I want to learn how to do this. So then COVID hit, so I looked online and I followed some videos for a while, and then I found Kristi's ad for A Jar Full of Sunshine. So that was my first painting with Kristi, and that was in March of 2022. Later, I joined her Painting of the Month Club at the very end of that month in March of 2020— oh, March of 2021, that was. And I've loved it. I loved it so much, but I wanted more. So I joined the tribe in April of 2022.

Just gives you a little taste. Yeah, but awesome. Well, thank you for sharing that. So you've been a member since— in TRIBE since April of '22, right? Is that right? Okay, yeah, so just around a little, a little over 2, 2 and a half years there, right? That's awesome. All right, Amber, what about you?

Hi, I'm Amber Scott and I live in central Pennsylvania. I am an art teacher, um, and it's so nice to just paint for fun, learn from somebody else, and not be the one teaching, um. And so I guess last fall, uh, I saw Kristi's— I saw an ad for Kristi's The Sunflower, uh, the workshop, the fall sunflowers.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I was just like, that's what I want for my birthday, because my birthday's in October. So I was like, yay, I Happy birthday to me. Um, and I love sunflowers, so I did it and fell in love and just loved how you focus on the Lord and everything. So right after, or during, I don't know, some point in the— I was like, I'm joining Tribe, and I've been here ever since.

Awesome.

And you have also been a Tribe Sister of the Month, um, that we had earlier this year too. So Amber's been a very active part of the community as well. And, and we'll get more into what our, what our community looks like and what our sisterhood looks like. But, um, it's a pretty, it's a pretty awesome group of ladies, and this is just 3 of the many that are in there. Um, and next up we have Kirsten.

Hello, I am Kirsten Baer from Wausau, Wisconsin, and I'm a children's ministry director at my church. And, um, I kind of got interested in painting. I've always loved to dabble with creative crafty things. And I was part of a lettering club, but I think Christy was a guest artist on that club, and I liked her painting. And then I think Facebook popped up with one of her special paintings of— I think it was the Funky Fall Flowers— and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna join that. Had so much fun. And then when I saw that she put this beautiful Journey to the Manger painting up for Christmas, I just had to join. And I thought, well, I'll just do it for a couple months and I haven't been able to leave. I just love it. So it's been— I was just thinking, I think it's been like a year and 11 months I've been part of Tribe.

Oh wow, okay, awesome. So yeah, we've got some 2 and a half plus. You guys are all little variations of the last couple of years, but thank you for kind of sharing how you found me, and thanks Facebook for me popping up in, uh, in your feed. So I'm, I'm glad you guys got to do those workshops. I love doing the workshops. And obviously I love painting flowers. I love every single one of you were like, I joined from a flower workshop, all different. Um, but, um, just to let everyone know, we paint more than flowers inside of TRIBE, but those are our most popular workshops, um, to share with people. So, um, what would you say— and I'll just kind of open this up and let you guys, um, kind of answer, um, whenever you want to. Um, what do you feel like, um— or maybe I will start with you, Kirsten, because you said Well, I was just going to do it for a couple of months. So what has being a Tribe Sister changed for you in your personal life? What has made you want it to continue to be a part of your life outside of just the painting part?

I would say there's a few reasons. One, um, I just love how it stretched me and also just taught me skills for painting. Like, I think I had skills for it, I just didn't know how to use them. And so I've now learned all about color mixing and how you blend. And then I've loved learning about how to use different media, using the modeling paste and the gel mediums. And I have fallen in love with painting with texture. And so that's just really grown me as an artist. And then something I just— I guess I didn't totally expect is just the online community that has developed by interacting. I don't get to go to the Zooms very often that we have paint Zooms because of my job. But when I have, it's been really fun to connect with the faces that I see in the feed all the time. And I just like the positivity to encourage one another, like, just do your best and have fun. And painting has just been a really relaxing outlet, um, too, for me to just have quiet time with the Lord, to, um, just be that thing that I can be refilled and enter— have energy for all the other things in life.

I love that. I think it's like, you know, I talk about it all the time, but like, as women, we always kind of put ourselves at the bottom of the list. Everyone comes above us, um, because we're servers and we're caretakers and, you know, all the things. But I think it's so important for us to take that time to pour back into ourselves, to have time with God, to have time to slow down, because when we do, then we're better versions of ourselves for everyone else around us.

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What about you, Amber? What, what do you think has, um, or what have you gotten the most out of TRIBE, or what has changed for you personally, um, in your journey?

Yeah, um, uh, I would say it's probably very similar. Like, taking the, the, the, the workshop, I, I had a taste of the community and everything and a taste of just being able to paint with others and talk with others about art and everything. And it's the same in Tribe but bigger. Like, there's everybody so positive and has great feedback, um, and is always cheering you on. And I just love that. And I love that God is brought into it. Like, there's so much out there about art being healing and beneficial and so on and so forth. And I don't feel there's as many Christian, you know, art groups out there. So I love that, that we have that aspect too. And it's, um, yeah, and I work at a private school, so I don't have formal training in art. Like, I've done it all my life, so it's— I took, uh, and finishing up your master class, and I love getting the, the nitty-gritty in it, and I'm able to take it and, you know, relay it back to my students and all kinds of stuff.

So I really I think that's awesome. I love— and I love that you bring the art to your kids too. Like, you're doing it for you, but it kind of again overflows into your, your work life too. And we have another art teacher in the group, I can't think of her name off the top of my head, and she just posted the other day that she did like the Impasto fall birch trees with all her students, 6th, 7th, and 8th grade. And I was like, oh my gosh, it just makes me so happy. I love seeing it kind of like, you know, just everyone, um, You know, I just love that we all love art. And like you said, that there's a place that you can talk about it, because I don't know about you guys, but it's not like I'm— I mean, I am friends with other businesswomen who are artists, but they don't live near me. We live all over the United States. I have no local friends that get to geek out with me over when I'm excited about a new painting technique that I try. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's just fun to have a place to go where We all love the same thing, and we're excited to talk about it. What about you, Miss Bonnie?

Well, I have loved learning so much from you, Christy. You have changed my life. I love painting so much now. I'm retired. I keep busy painting almost every afternoon, but it has brought so much joy to my life. You know, I just never in a million years did I ever think I could make such beautiful art. In fact, I'm even selling art in a little— in a home, in a shop in town. I have— I do craft fairs here, and I have a home in Florida for the winter. I do craft fairs there. Never in a million years did I ever think I would do that.

That's so awesome. I didn't know that.

It makes me so happy.

I can't believe you've got to feel proud. And I think You know, there's a lot of women who are going to be watching this who maybe were like you guys and hadn't painted before, or maybe dabbled in it some, but like in their heads they're thinking, that's cool for them, but that'll never be me because I don't have that experience. What would you guys say to them? Do they need experience before becoming a part of TRIBE?

Really, I keep telling my friends, you don't have to even be able to sketch. I never thought I could sketch before.

Yeah, right. And I think that's like the biggest— you know, I, I've been reading a lot about like the misbelief and the lies that we tell ourselves versus the truth. And I think like that's a big one, is like being creative, being artistic, calling yourself an artist. Like these are things that, you know, women are scared to do or say because they're like, no, I just wasn't born with it. Like because most people I meet, when I tell them what I do for a living, I'm like, I'm an artist and I'm a teacher. And they're like, oh, I draw a stick figure. Like, oh, you'd never be able to teach me how to paint. And I'm like, yes, I can. Come on over. It's true. But I think we all have, you know, like, I talk about this a lot in the group, but, you know, we were, we were designed in God's image, and God is the original creator. And so if he's a creator, so are we. And I think for many of us, it's just having that help uncovering those skills and teaching you those skill sets um, that you need so that you can learn and continue to grow. And I like hearing how, like, you're doing that and you're selling. Or is anyone else selling or doing any paint parties with your work? You are too, Amber? Oh, you both are? Okay, sure.

Just on occasion. On occasion.

Yeah, that's awesome though.

Yeah, I mean, I definitely share a lot of what I learn in Tribe with my students and stuff. Um, always talking about— you just mentioned the, um, you know, that we're created in God's image. And just because I'll get kids—

it—

at the school I work at, it's only 50 kids, so art is more of an afterthought, which is fine. I mean, that's, you know, it's just a special, and so there's no real structural organization to it. But so I'll get kids like, I can't even draw a stick figure, you know. And I'm like, And the things I have learned and everything. And, you know, I take my iPad now and I can do the tracers for them. You know, like, I can make art accessible to them. And they have such pride in being able to look what I created, look what I made. And then paint party-wise, I've only done so far 2 were fundraisers.

But, you know, it'll come, you know, when the time is right.

But I enjoy doing it for fundraisers, like friends are like, oh, we're doing a silent online auction, can you donate something? I was like, I'll do a paint party, sure.

Yeah, that's awesome though. I mean, I, and I think it's just a great way to, you know, share your love for art. And, you know, Bonnie, going back to what you say, and you're saying how much joy it brings you, and I think like that's so important, and we don't put enough emphasis on joy in our lives, and whether that be bringing it into ours but also pouring it out to others. And I just think there's such a huge ripple effect with, like, when you start infusing this joy and you start feeling this joy and it overflows out of you. And I mean, I think we can all agree the world needs a whole lot more of that than anything else right now. So, um, and you know, we've talked— a couple of you have mentioned, like, the positivity inside of the group. And for those of you that are watching this and you're not Tribe Sisters yet, um, I'm a little strict, uh, mama bear when it comes to protecting this group. And, um, there is a no drama rule. There's no negativity. Like, we, we guard and protect this group, and we want it to be a safe haven, and we want it to be a place where in this world of chaos that we're in sometimes, that when you come inside of the Tribe Sister group, that it's a peaceful and joyful place that you leave that group feeling filled up instead of, you know, bogged down even more. Um, and that's kind of my goal with the group is to give you guys a community. And we have over 1,200 women in the group. Um, and, you know, obviously some are more active than others, but you start building relationships with these other women in the group. And it's so exciting for me to see, um, because when I started this over 6 years ago, I had no idea that this is what it would turn into. Do you know what I mean? Like, you couldn't— I couldn't envision that. I was just like, yeah, it's just like me teaching paint nights locally, but it's not at all. It's, it's so much more than that. And, um, you guys have become like such a huge part of my life, and, you know, um, it's just a beautiful— I feel like family that we have in our group. Um, let's see, what other questions did I have for you guys? Or if there's, if there's anything that you were just wanting to share, you can let me know that too, and then I'll ask a question afterwards.

I think I said it before, you just make everything really accessible. Um, you know, making sure that, you know, either it's accessible, but if you want to, you know, be challenged, like, oh, okay, I'm not going to use the tracer, I'm going to try and You know, like, there's a whole range of ways of doing the pieces and of art, and you mentioned different techniques you could do this way, or you could— so I really appreciate that.

Yeah, I do. And I think that's the fun part of art is, you know, I— people always want like a definite answer, tell me exactly what you do for every single painting, and I'm like, I don't paint like that. Like, every painting I do is completely different, and I think there's different ways to get your end results. And I think that's important for you guys to also, um, discover as artists too on your own. Is like, like, um, now I can't remember, was it Kirsten who said you liked playing with the modeling paste? I can't remember which one of you said it now, but like even like something like that, you know, like, and I'm always like, once I get excited about something, then I love to share it with you guys. And it's just fun to experiment and see all the different things we can do with art.

And I really like that you— well, in the beginning I needed to follow you step by step, but then as I grew as an artist, you know, you gave us the freedom and encouragement, go make it a little bit your own, or go make some twists or turns into how you paint it. So that's been fun to now broaden my horizons.

And I love getting to watch you guys grow and learn too. So, um, for those of you watching, there are all different levels, um, of artists in our group. Some who are completely brand new, some who have been painting for years, and then everything in between. But people always ask me like, well, what are your easiest paintings? And my answer is that's super hard for me because I do feel like I break everything down in such a way that you can do any painting that we have in the Tribe Vault as long as you are willing to put the time into it. You know, some are more time consuming than others, but it doesn't mean they're harder. And I think a lot of times people say things are hard just because they take longer. It's not harder, it's not more difficult. You just have more steps to take to get to the final result. But we have different tutorials for every level of artist. So we have super easy, just quick blending and make a pretty scene. Then we have, you know, maybe something more intricate, even like the one behind me over here. You know, there's a lot more detail inside that floral arrangement. But we— I— and I want people who look at that and think, there's no way I can ever paint that, what would you guys say to them?

Of course, step by step, step by step.

Trust the process. Trust the process. Yeah, trust the process. That's right. So I did a little homework before jumping on here with you guys, and I hope it's okay with you, but I wanted to share with the people watching some of what you have done inside of TRIBE. So I went into the group and, uh, pulled you guys up so we could kind of share your journey, um, with some of the ladies that are watching, because it's cool for them to like hear us talk and they're like, how do we know what they're really doing? So I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull up our Facebook group and I'm gonna start with Miss Bonnie here at the top. Oh, okay. So this is, um, I love— so this just— Bonnie, we may have some repeats here the way Facebook pulls this up, but, um, I basically can just pull Bonnie up by her name in the group and it will show me her artwork. How beautiful is her hummingbird? And then, um, her, um, American flag. And you can see here, these are some of her recent photos. So we were just talking about the one behind me, and this is Bonnie's beautiful version of that. Um, so I love just getting to share these little, you know, peeks inside, uh, inside what you guys are creating. Here is our tulips. That was a really good job on this one too. And then Bonnie, tell us a little bit about, um, these— I'm gonna see if it will show me when I'm scrolling— these bags.

Well, that was a guest artist. I forgot.

She's one of our tribe sisters, Vicki.

Yeah, yes, yes. And, um, I just followed her, her video and painted them. And then I put my daughter's name on one and put different names on them. And, and, and gave— I gave one to my daughter, one to my daughter-in-law for Valentine's Day with filled with candy and stuff. And they loved it.

I love them. And that has been, uh, I'm just going to keep scrolling while I'm talking to show off some of your artwork.

I just did that tractor again yesterday.

Oh, did you? It's so good. But I love, like, even stuff like that. I think people don't think about how you can use art to give gifts, um, to people. And again, we talked about, like, spreading the joy and love and how art can really just brighten someone's day. And you never know when giving someone a little gift like that. Or even we do a lot of, um, postcard exchanges inside, like card and postcard exchanges inside a tribe, because who doesn't love getting happy mail? Like, not a bill in the mail, not junk mail, but like you open it and a hand-painted card from someone. So, um, you know, we do a lot of that inside a tribe. These are so pretty. I love this purple version of your palm trees.

Well, see, when I'm in Florida— so when I'm in Florida, I do more beachy stuff. And my friend has a purple bathroom, so I painted that for her.

I love it.

Wow, beautiful.

So fun to see. Okay, let's jump over to, um, Kirsten. Your newest one, is it showing? Oh, hang on, never mind. Hold on, I gotta, I gotta switch. I was just doing it on my tab and realized it wasn't sharing it over here. Okay, now we see it.

Oh yeah, I love it.

So tell them a little bit about this. This is something new that we've recently done.

Yeah, so Chrissy did a porch leaner with us, which was super fun to be able to have a fall decoration as I'm really running out of wall space. Um, I, I just went out to my garage and found a random board. It's a little short for a leaner, but I still love it, and it was just so fun to paint step by step.

I love that. Yeah, I decided— I have been wanting to do a porch leaner for my own house for like the last 4 falls, and every fall, like, we're too busy and I never get it done. And I was like, I am doing it, I am making it this year. And I feel like this has been one of our most popular paintings over the last month. There have been so many Tribe Sisters doing the fall porch, and some even doing, uh, paint parties with them too. This is a great way to if you're wanting to make money with your artwork, um, doing something like this, especially fall, fourth quarter, everything is all about arts and crafts, right? And people are doing booths and giving gifts. So it's a great way to like use these tutorials, um, to, you know, sell and make money in addition to doing some for yourself as well. Oh, pretty watercolor too. Oh, I'm going to click big on this. This is one of our newest paintings too. This is the Impasto Fall birch trees. Did you have fun doing this one?

Yeah, if you notice the next picture, my kitten made it really fun. She, she stepped in the green and then stepped up in my lower dark color, so I had to do a lot of repainting.

That's so funny. She was over here on the left stepping in the trees, wasn't she?

Yep, yep.

If you look carefully in there, you can see where stepped. There we go. Yeah, I have to keep my cats out of my— I keep a sliding door so they can't come in there because they love to get up on the counter. This one's really pretty too. So this is— so I'll explain this really quick. So you may see the hashtag #TribeTravel on Kirsten's posts. So we do challenges inside of the Tribe Sister group too, and these are really meant to stretch, um, Tribe Sisters and push them out of their comfort zone and kind of do some different things that maybe they normally wouldn't pick. And we give them kind of like a game board and challenges for them to do over a span of time. And so this is one of her, um, takeaways from that. She did— I'm gonna just read your thing. Actually, you just tell me while I'm reading it what you did.

Yeah, so I took a mashup of the Enchanted Pumpkin painting with one of the Sunflower Fall paintings and decided to make the pumpkin the vase, do the flowers, and then I had to do with impasto style. So use modeling paste to put a lot of texture in there. So it took a lot of layers and coming back and forth to it as the layers dried. It was so fun.

That's beautiful.

I love that. It is so pretty. And I love— I have never done a, you know, a pumpkin with the flowers on top, so I love that you combined those two. Um, so yeah, this is just her sharing some of her, um, Tribe Travel from the contest that we did. We've got Monet's Garden here. And then this is— tell me a little bit about this. This is from a trip? Yep.

So I went to Vienna, Austria and saw this statue of Mozart, which is a photograph that had hung in my grandma's house when I was a little girl. So I was like, oh, this would be fun to try with watercolor. So I went for it.

Awesome. As a postcard. It was a postcard. So fun. And the more impasto— you guys are going to hear us say that word a lot. If you hear impasto, that just means thick acrylic paint. It's thick-bodied paint. But I have also kind of become obsessed with it lately. I just love playing with it so much. So you will see several paintings of this style. But, um, this is one I took home from my trip to Europe and was just so inspired when we were going up the Italian, um, coast. You just saw this blue and white pattern and the lemons, and it's just such happy— I don't know why I love this painting so much. We're just happy colors and simple, you know, very fun. Oh, this one's really good too, one of our beach scenes. And so we also paint on all different sizes, so you may see, you notice as we're looking at their artwork, lots of different sizes of paintings too. So I don't always just paint on a 16 by 20. I like to, to play and do different things. And you'll also learn with me, I get bored with things easily, but I think part of that is being an artist. So I'm constantly changing, um, what we're doing, and it's not the same old thing every single month. So every month is a completely, um, completely new experience. Now let me go to Amber here. I love this post, Amber. Oh yeah, all of them. Yeah, this is all of her, uh, paintings that she just did on the last challenge. I was wanting it to start. I'm gonna try to start. Look at this! So what size is that one?

Uh, I don't know, is that 16 by 20 or probably bigger?

Yeah, it looks a little bigger, 24 or something like that. I don't know, it looks really good. What was your favorite one that you did out of your, uh challenge?

Uh, the trees, the, the aspen trees, I think.

Yeah, that one's pretty too.

Thanks. Oh, those were from the beach.

I did on my iPad, but yeah, if that was on your iPad, that was cool. But it's fun to just be able to sketch wherever you go.

Yes.

I love these. And did you like doing the impasto birches as well?

Oh my goodness, so fun.

That was such a fun project.

Yeah, so you're seeing all my, uh, tribe travel. That one was a fun one too. I enjoyed that.

Yeah, and that one was like, you know, um, I feel like more of like a graphic style, you know, like something like you'd see on like a t-shirt or something. So It's just fun to kind of play around with the different techniques. So this is, this is a class that you taught. Was this one of the fundraisers?

It was, yeah. So, um, so it was a family and, uh, the grandmother in the middle had, uh, won the, the auction and wanted to do it with her daughters and their kids. So it was so fun. Um, you know, like to work. So I, you know, for the little ones, I had already drawn it out for them, and then I let the adults try to draw it out, and they just had— they had so much fun. And you could see they all had such different styles and everything.

Yeah, you can tell they're all happy too. Like, they— that looks like a really fun, um, paint party. And I love seeing like all the different versions, the kids versus the mom and dad, you know, the moms. Um, it's fun.

So cute.

Fun to see. I just love seeing people do art together too. It just makes me happy. Oh, these are really good. These were from another Tribe Sister, right? Correct. Yeah, that was from my Tribe Sister mail. So yeah, this is kind of an example. We do different things throughout the year. We do contests and then we do like postcard— what do I want to call it— Tribe Sister card swaps where, um, you sign up and if you want to be a part of it, you can send, um, your paintings to some of the other Tribe Sisters. And it's just a fun way to continue to share it. Look how good you did on this too. Thank you.

Yeah, I was recovering from surgery for that one, so I actually— that is only on my iPad. I had a lot of fun with that, but I do want to go back and do it you know, on canvas too, because it's so beautiful.

Yeah, that's really— you did a really cool job on— I know, like, not until I clicked on it did I realize it was done on your iPad. I thought that was paint, but that's really cool. Yay! Well, that's so awesome. Thank you guys for— that was kind of a surprise to them. I didn't tell them I was going to share their artwork, but I was in there sneaking around and wanted to show off what they were, what they were doing too. So, um, as we're Wrapping up, do you have anything that you would like to say to any of the ladies watching that maybe if they're on the fence about becoming a Tribe Sister and they're debating and going back and forth, what, what would you share with them? I'll just let you guys take turns.

I would say just don't be afraid to jump in because you are the best teacher in the world and you take it step by step and you make it so easy. That anybody can paint with you. I mean, it's, it's amazing. Don't be afraid, you know.

Don't be afraid to do it. Very sweet.

Yeah. I would agree totally. You're a great teacher, and everybody in Tribe's so nice. Like, and there are several people who kind of just hang out in the background and do their artwork, and they're there. Um, but eventually you see them pop up and they start sharing. So it's really, it's really cool. So if you're really nervous, you don't have to share if you're not ready. Um, you share when you're ready. Um, and there's— yeah, it's just such a safe space and such a happy, joyful space.

Yeah, I love that. And I do think, you know, it can— and I do want to say this because, um, you know, it's really easy to let comparison steal your joy, right? Um, and it's really easy. I mean, and I'm speaking to this as an artist myself, you know, competing against other artists in the online space too. A lot of those women happen to be my very close friends, and we don't view it as competition, and we say community over competition. And that's the same way that it is in Tribe. But I also just want to even speak to that further, is like, when you're comparing yourself, or if you're feeling intimidated and you might be looking at some of their stuff, or maybe women women who have been painting for several years, and instead of inspiring you, it defeats you, and you start feeling like, I'll never do that, and mine's not as good as hers. I just want us to all be really careful, and we talk a lot about mindset inside of Tribe too, that you are on your own journey. You're on nobody else's journey but your own. Your art is your art. Mine is mine. Tamara's is Tamara's. Casey's is Casey's. And we all serve different people, and there's enough room in this big world for all of us without competition. And I think inside the group, it's— I feel like it should inspire you because most of these women started exactly where you were, feeling like they didn't have the skill sets to be able to do these things, and now they are. They're accomplishing so much. And when they started, they were newbies just like several of you watching this, and worried whether it would work for them or not. Um, so let it inspire you and don't feel like you have to have it perfect before you post your artwork. You will know as soon as you post your work, you're going to get inundated with love and support and encouragement, and it's going to make you want to do more because you have such a positive, great place to come and share your progress. And if you're struggling, then your tribe sisters are going to come in and give you some words of encouragement, um, on that front as well. So it's definitely not a come and show off how great you are kind of group. It's the opposite of that. It's more of like, we're in this together and we're all learning and we're here to support and love on each other. Kirsten, what did you want to share? I'm sorry, you fell off and came back in.

So yeah, my computer just suddenly turned off. I'm like, okay, so I missed what the last question.

Oh yeah, I was just saying if there was— if any ladies here watching, if they're on the fence about joining TRIBE, what would you say to them to encourage them, or from your point of view?

Just do it because you won't regret it. That's for sure. It was like the cost, and then once I got in, I just— the Lord provides. And I just have loved the community and loved of all the things I learned, it's just totally worth it, right? You gotta do it.

Thank you, ladies, so much. I love getting to chat with you and see you, at least on the computer screen, um, if we can't be in person. So, um, thank you guys so much. And, um, for those of you watching this, if you have any questions, you can drop them in the comments below, and my team and I, and I'm sure these ladies, will let them know about the post, and they'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have from them as well. So thank you guys so much, and I will talk to you soon.

Thank you.

Bye.