In this informal interview, Erica Campbell and her guest (Speaker B) discuss the challenges and strategies of maintaining physical health while juggling family, faith, and everyday cravings. The conversation opens with Erica asking how to make time for health, leading to a discussion of discipline framed through the "King stomach" metaphor from Jitson Franklin’s fasting book, emphasizing who controls one’s eating habits. They acknowledge the tension between striving for wholesome nutrition—grinding fresh whole‑grain flour, drinking green juice, and eating fish—and the pull of indulgences like McDonald’s fries and LA donuts. The guest shares personal anecdotes about traveling to Israel and eating bread without weight gain, attributing it to spiritual context. They talk about workout routines, noting that friends like Chrystal Hurst, Elena, and family members provide motivation, with varied frequencies of gym visits, walks, and push‑ups. Genetics and body image surface humorously, and the role of faith is highlighted as a guiding force in food choices (e.g., thanking God before eating donuts). Throughout, the tone remains candid, humorous, and reflective, revealing both the aspirational and realistic sides of a health‑focused lifestyle.
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So how do you make time for physical health?
I got an answer for you.
Let me, let me, let me.
And it's closely related to your arms, which is why I fell in love with you.
I was like, she has 3 kids, she preaches, and she has great arms. I mean, she works out. I want to know her. I just felt that.
And that's when I met Michelle. I was like, I like her because she preaches really good and she loves her husband, kids. She has great arms.
That's awesome. It's a thing. It's a thing. I used to work out with her. I can't do it.
You can't?
Aww. Yes, we can. We work out together.
She said it so gentle. I like it.
Yes, that's her encouraging voice. Take it. Receive the encouragement. No, because she's over there sprinting on 9.5 with arms and I'm going, "Hey, hey, hey." And I'm over there trying to—
Walking on 4. Who wants to work out next to that?
Oh my goodness. I heard you say one time you're trying not to be fat, y'all. I heard you say that.
I mean, I felt so endeared to you when you said that.
I was like, I'm trying too. I'm trying too. Oh, okay. So tell me about that. Tell me about the struggle with French fries. And can I just say she does care about her health because I was doing your radio show, she had this chlorophyll sitting in front of her like, she was like, "Do you want chlorophyll?" Yes, so I know that that said to me, but she also likes french fries. Yes, she likes some french fries.
I'm balanced. Come on. I want to be a good steward over what God gave me, and this is what he gave me. I think it's really about discipline for me. I read, um, Jitson Franklin's book about fasting, and there was a line, and he said, "King stomach," and that just never left my mind. And so when I'm trying to make—
say that again?
King stomach. Who's in control? Like, is your stomach— who's running you? Who's really running this show? Because it'll be something that you don't know you don't need to eat, it's way too late, and you'll talk yourself into it because your stomach is running the show.
Your flesh is craving it.
Yeah, and so I'm like, Erica, you got to get your discipline together. So, you know, I try my best to kind of balance it out, you know, and I don't always make the mark, but because I don't want my husband and my kids to have to push me in a wheelchair. I figure if I make the good decision now, you know, then, you know, I'll be the better for it. I do know that most diseases and things and issues that happen in our body are because of the foods that we eat. And you can change it all with your diet. Like our water is not alkaline or we're not getting enough minerals or, you know, the flour that we eat. I just came back from Israel and ate bread every day and didn't gain a pound.
And I'm going, because it wasn't there.
It's because Jesus was there. It's Jesus bread. We don't have Jesus bread here in the United States. So if you eat bread here—
I have a grinder. You do? I grind my own flour because the flour freshly ground still has the natural oils in it and it's real whole grain and not stripped and all that. And then after I grind the bread and make the— grind the flour and make the bread and all of that, because I'm tired, then I go pick up donuts. It was so conveniently located right next to the Whole Foods after I shopped for the organics and the greens and I got the green juice and the fish straight from the coast.
No honey.
Yes. The fries from McDonald's, hot and fresh, and I will wait 3 minutes for the fresh fries and salt.
Right, pull over to the side please. Terrible. I'm that girl. So I'll have a salad. There's this place called SK Donuts. I happened to Google best donuts in LA, and so SK Donuts came up. Had this deep desire at about 7, so I was like, 7 PM, they're probably closed, but it wasn't that far from my house, so I drove. But you checked to be sure? I drove to SK Donuts and I said, if this is closed, Lord, I'm not supposed to go here. But when I pulled up, it had 24 hours on there.
Oh, Jesus is here. Jesus is here.
I thank you, Father. I'll have kale tomorrow, but tonight it shall be glazed donuts.
Hey! You work out?
I have really good genes. That do not really work out.
Okay.
The Spanx will trick everybody.
Troy is still waiting for you to call him. If you go to Troy, I'll go to Troy. When you go to Troy, that's it.
That's it. See, that's why she has great arms.
She, but no, no, no, don't, no, no, no. Let's, let's, you said good genes.
Yes.
So let's say this. Yeah. Chrystal Hurst has always been very strong. She was a cheerleader, she was a gymnast. So that was kind of baked in. She's really just keeping it up. You are slashing my dreams right now.
Cause in my mind she wakes up and works out for 2 hours.
But you know what she does? How many days a week? It's like 3 days a week?
I'll probably just walk or something and do pushups on my own a couple of days.
Then I go to the gym a couple of days. She'd be in her gym, in her driveway by herself doing pushups. Oh, that's awesome. And she would call me when we lived next door and say, Chrystal, I'm going to do some squat jumps and some pushups. Do you want, don't you want to come over? You didn't join?
The no that's on your face right now.
I would go for a walk with her because that was relaxing, and then she'd say, "Come for a walk," and then half a mile into the walk she'd say, "Let's run a little bit." My sister Elena's like that.
Elena looks amazing. Oh God, she looks amazing, and I don't like her.
Yes, you do.
I do. I love her.
You love her.
I love her. But you know, it's good to have those kind of people around me. Sometimes I work out with Elaine and sometimes I don't. My mom my whole life would do 200 jumping jacks at night. She's 3 pounds. Your mother is 3 pounds. You know I'm—
Wear out your mother. Oh God. Girl, it was all about the thing with her in a dress and you wanted her to turn over. Yeah, she wanted to turn around. She looked so good in that dress. She did look good in that dress. I was like, Mama, please.
