Akashic Records: The Spiritual Practice You Haven’t Heard of…Yet – Laura Coe | 1139 | Dave Asprey

So the Akashic record, simply put, it's the energetic space of your soul's history, everything you've ever done in all of your lifetimes. So this system is based on a multiple lifetime incarnation belief system. Whether you believe that or not, it's just what the belief is. And it's like a Google cloud, if you will. So imagine a massive cloud with where everything you're doing is stored there and you're able to then pull down and access this information in an organized Google search.

You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. My guest today is Laura Ko. She's an author, a blogger, a certified life coach who's not these days, but she helps in what I'm just going to call the soft intuitive areas of coaching. I've worked with coaches in my life who are very detail and goals and metric oriented or some that are like, you can do it. Like, I don't really need the. I can do it most of the time, but sometimes you'll find someone who just has a unique ability to see, see the unseen. And I heard about Laura and said this is really interesting because she's done real educational stuff, sold, sold her company as a health care tech entrepreneur and then went back into here her kind of philosophical roots. She's written about emotional obesity. But the reason I'm interviewing her today isn't around that. It's actually about something called the Akashic Records. If you're a longtime listener and you're attuned to metaphysics and spirituality, you might have heard me mention this maybe four or five times on past episodes, just in passing. Usually when it's around neuroscience or psychedelics or something like that. But I, I haven't really spoken about that too much publicly, but it's an. An area of, we'll call it shamanic training and other esoteric practices that I'm familiar with. So when Laura learned how to tap into the Akashic Record, she's going to tell us what they are in a minute. She wrote something called the Nature of Series and actually started something called the Little Soul School. That's why she's been in Forbes, Huffington Post, New York observer, and a bunch of other magazines. So we're going to talk about weird psychology, Dreamland, metaphysical stuff on the show today. And am I saying all this is real? No. Am I saying it's not real? No, because I'm not a douchebag. And the people who say that can't be because it can't be. Are circular logic kind of, kind of religious, dogmatic people. What I'm going to ask you to do here is suspend your disbelief if you have it, and see if there might be something to this. In my experience, there is, but it is not always two plus two equals four kind of a thing. So if it happens more than 30% of the time, it's probably, probably not placebo. With that notice, let's go. Laura, welcome.

Thank you. Thank you. I love your intro. So fun to be here today.

It's fun to be able to go deep on neuroscience and then go deep into esoteric stuff. And one of the things I like is that you've actually gone out and done something sizable and successful in the real world. So your credibility when you talk about spiritual stuff is different. And if you say, I was raised in a commune, the first six years of my life, I was in darkness, in a cave, raised by nuns, I, I'm very intrigued by that. But you also could just be batshit crazy. So what you've do is you've shown an ability to execute in the real world and to execute in other parts of the world as well, which is, which is really cool. So people who have a foot on both sides are more intriguing to me. So walk, walk me through the Akashic records. What is that? What's going on with this?

Yeah, yeah. I appreciate the perspective of your audience and what you're sharing. It's mine. I mean, I grew up close to atheist. You know, I built and sold a healthcare tech company and I would have said I was like a healthy skeptic. You know, I sort of believed in maybe something, but that was kind of it. But I bumped into this one day, I didn't know what it was, never heard of it. Went in and did a reading and I was like, what was that? So the Akashic record, simply put, it's the energetic space of your soul's history, everything you've ever done in all of your lifetimes. So this system is based on a multiple lifetime incarnation belief system. Whether you believe that or not, it's just what the belief is. And it's like a Google cloud, if you will. So imagine a massive cloud where everything you're doing is stored there and you're able to then pull down and access this information and an organized Google search. So imagine there's a Google search, and.

If it's a Google search, is there a lot of censorship and manipulation from big Pharma in the Akashic records. I'm just wondering, asking for a friend?

No, no, not that kind of Google search, but just to make it more tangible for people because it's so odd sounding. It took me years to try to explain this to people because of the, the nature of the topic and how little it's been studied. So I just think of it this way, like, you know, you go to Google, you type in a ski shorts and you get back tons. Ski jackets, right? What if you could type in I want to go skiing and you get back one result with, you know, the perfect place for you. The, the boots you need, the jacket you need. Everything's hyperlinked in one result. And so the Akashic records are everything. And then an Akashic record reading is an ability to pull down just the right information for you in this moment in time to help you with the specific thing you're asking about. And it's not about skiing, it's about you learning about yourself in a deeper way to kind of break through. I sort of think if you had like a bunch of friends and a team of therapists and a guru and they were like, how do we help Laura out in this moment?

Right.

In the best way. It feels like that you get this exceptional advice that speaks to somewhere really deep inside of you that even a team of therapists wouldn't have gotten out of me. And it just breaks you open to a deeper understanding of yourself so you can move forward and honestly experience a bigger life.

Right.

Which is what I think most of us want. We want to be happier. We want to experience more.

Right.

And have those two things in tandem. And so that's my quick answer.

What makes you qualified to access the Akashic records? You know, like an encryption key, the right URL? Like.

No, it's a great question. Right? Like I went and did it and I would have said I was like, not a mystical person. Even 1%.

When you say you did it, was this you going into a state or you worked with someone who knew how to do it?

Yeah, I walked in a room, I met with a woman who did it. She was awesome. She told me things about myself that my best friends wouldn't have articulated. It was extremely helpful. So I, I like to explore things that are useful. I did a ton of them and every single time it was helpful. And at one point I heard that I could learn to do this, and I thought, that's absolutely not an option for me. I can't even imagine it. But I did it just because I'm that kind of person. I like to explore things. I don't know. I don't really live in a life where I judge things before I experience them for myself. So I thought, well, why not did it? And I realized me, who doesn't think of themselves as somebody who is mystical or could was able to. And not only was I able to, but I was offering my friends and the people around me, I would read anybody I could for free just because I was like so excited. And they were freaking out, they were crying. They're like, how do you know that? And I could tell them about their kids and their family and. And then one day I just taught my friend on a whim. I mean, I was just like, I don't know. We were at my summer house and we were a little bored and I was like, let me try this on you. And so I did. And then I started teaching more people and I realized, oh my God, like I can kind of teach anybody. And then honestly, Dave, there was this men's group. I have a dear friend and he was running this men's group and he likes this stuff. But the men's group was kind of around productivity and exercise and it was a bunch of guys and goal oriented and he's a trader on Wall street and he' like, we're going to blow their minds and bring you in too. We're not going to tell them. We're just going to surprise them. And I thought, oh God, this is going to be awful. I mean, it's sort of non spiritual guys. Like they're investment bankers and accountants and lawyers and business guys. Like, nothing wrong with it. But I started getting nervous that maybe I was over my skis a bit and it wasn't going to happen. But it was 40 guys and all 40 accessed the Akashic records.

Wow, these are like anchor types, like not spiritual guys, you know, dude, these.

Were dudes, like they were, dude, crying. They were dude, freaking out. They were sweating. They're like, there's no way I'm gonna do this. And all 40 of them did it. And not only did it, but they, they, most of them wrote me and said that was one of the most exceptional experiences. And what that did for me is that I had this like moment of like, oh, like we're all, we're all able to do this. Like, listen, you walk up to a piano, you can touch the keys. Are you going to be good? I don't know, like put the time in, you know, not everybody has the talent. So I think talent and Time are important with anything we do, but I want people to know that it's accessible.

Right.

It's not some mystical, wooey, weird thing. I know it sounds like it is, but I have now taught thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people. And I mean, I have not failed yet. And again, it's like saying, I got a tennis ball. Can I hit a ball? Sure. Are you going to Wimbledon? Probably not. You know, probably not. Not everybody's great. I happen to be pretty talented and I'm extremely tenacious. I put in thousands of hours. So what, what makes somebody qualified? Anybody can do it, but like piano, you gotta practice and probably there's talent.

Right.

Like with everything. Yeah.

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Many, many years ago, there probably was no juggling. And then someone figured out that you could juggle and it looked like a total miracle. And they probably got burned at the stake for a while for doing it. And then eventually, you know, another 10 generations later, juggling was allowed and someone taught someone else how to do it and it spread. So you could say it was a mystical power or just something people could do that we didn't know we could do.

Right.

Like cell phones. Right. Like, nobody would have thought 30 years ago we'd be interconnected like this.

And so some people would have. Like, a lot of. A lot of people don't know this. One of my favorite stories. This is also more metaphysical stuff. We've all heard that in the, the old, like the western part of the US that the Native Americans would use smoke signals to communicate. But as a network engineering guy from Silicon Valley, there is not enough bandwidth to communicate anything in puffs of smoke. You couldn't even do, like Morse code in an effective way. So we just sort of accepted it without thinking. But when you ask them, they're like, oh yeah, we would light the fires to tell the other guys down the road, whatever, to tune in. So then they would pay attention and then they would connect to the other person's consciousness and know whatever the message was. And it was just a reminder basically to go into a mild meditative state where you could receive information.

Oh nice.

And so there are these built in abilities and when you say you've taught people to do this and it's just a skill. I believe that because I learned an ancient Chinese method once from a guy who's like, I'm the 20th generation of this and it's something anyone can do. Just my family hid it from everyone because it gave us a unique advantage. And I decided to put it out into the world. So it was something that's spookily useful. And then we've had what Lisa Williams has been on the show. She's had 40,000 people, had a channel. Some of them are better than others. Right. So bottom line is maybe you're listening to the show, maybe you've listened for 10 years and you've turned on your mitochondria all the way. They have more powers. They're called the yogic Siddhis S I D H I. These are documented abilities of our human hardware that can happen, they're just rare. So this is one of those things where I've run across it in different lineages that I've studied and I've, I've worked with Akashic records directly, especially in very altered states without plant medicines, just at 40 years in with neurofeedback, I've gone really, really deep and, and had communication. So this is like a, maybe Carl Jung's collective consciousness. Do you think the Akashic records are tied into that? Are they the same thing?

Yeah, I mean, in fact, I've been going in the Akashic records to ask questions. You can find out about you or you can ask these really beautiful metaphysical philosophical questions. My first love was philosophy. I went to undergrad and graduate school. I thought I was going to be a professor. I was at Tufts and I just hated academia, but I love the topic. So I've been going in the Akashic records and asking just these philosophical questions. And I asked what are the Akashic records? And I wanted to hear from them. It's not a very documented space. Edgar Cayce went in and he asked all these questions about medical stuff, but not too many people have, have done this sort of broader conversation. And that's what I'm excited by. And it's. It's a grid. It's a grid of information that we are all interconnected within.

Right.

So the Akashic records is. And again, everything is like something. Because I really don't think we have the vocabulary at this point in history to fully understand what this is. I think we may at some point, quantum physics and all that seems to be. I'm not great with quantum physics, but it seems to be picking up on some of the same languaging. But it's an. It's an energetic space. It's a set in a vibration and it's. It's an endless grid that we're all interconnected in where that exists. And all that is still to be, I think, figured out by some brilliant scientists at some point because I'm really.

Lazy and brilliant scientists are expensive. I just asked ChatGPT to explain how the Akashic records work.

Okay.

Just right now, what. What do you think it said?

God, I have no idea. There's so much out there about this topic that I find not so great. So I'm curious. Tell me.

So, number one, I'm pretty good at prompt engineering. I'm running something called the Apollo Group with Vishen Lakhiani and with Naveen Jain. So it's a very small mastermind, $100,000 mastermind for entrepreneurs who want to work with us directly. So we've done some AI training based on Vishen's platform. And so I've kind of gone deep on prompt engineering. So I wrote the right one. But I'm like, I don't care if you think it's not real. Tell me the science anyway. And here's what it says. And these are actually answers I probably would have thought of and you would have thought of as well. And for our listeners, I'm going to run through some of these and I want you to say these are good or bad. And can you go into the Akashic records and ask if these are right.

Or not as we speak? No.

Yeah. Why not?

It's a slow process. I know people want me to do that, but channeling is like an easy sort of flow. This is a. It takes an hour to get a real good question answered.

Yeah, we did a session ahead of time because I basically want to see if you're a full crap because I've had Akashic readings from people who are 80% ego and 20% Akashic, and I've had some from people who are really Just tuning in and new stuff they shouldn't know. And it probably varies by day. But I was like, okay, you're the real deal. And I have enough of an experience to know the real deal versus not. So what it says is quantum entanglement and information theory is one example, which is the quantum mechanics thing. And I would have called out information theory and certainly quantum. And you did. The second one is the holographic principle, the universe as information. Stan Grof has been on the show who wrote a book called the Holographic Universe, I think, or Holotropic Universe maybe.

Yeah, holographic, I think.

Yeah. And he's. I've actually done breathing a breath work workshop co led it with him and his team for a group of my coaches. So the idea there is that the universe is a hologram, which means you can have a tiny piece of it that contains the entire thing if you just know how to look at it. Then funny enough, ChatGPT says collective unconsciousness and archetypes. And Carl calls out Carl Jung, which we just talked about. That's why it's listening. And then it says theoretical physics and multiverse theory, which a lot of people have heard of, at least if you've seen Doctor Strange. And then simulation hypothesis, which Elon has talked about. I've talked about it, Zuckerberg's talked about it. You know, are we living in a simulation? Have you ever asked the Akashic masters and teachers whether we're living in a simulation?

Yeah, I mean, I've asked all of these things and it's tough because the answer is pretty much that our brains are just not quite there to really understand the depths of it. If I'm being honest, it's not a non judgmental space. You don't ever experience critique or judgment and there's no right or wrong kind of energy to it. But they're definitely not impressed with the human mind and so they try to give it to us in a way that at this point in history we can comprehend it for sure. I've heard the holographic universe for sure. It's been sort of a quantum experience, but it's like that is always. It's like this, it's like that, it's like this. And it's not a hundred percent what it is that we're saying to date. It's sort of like that. So I'm working really hard to get it out of the Akashic records. I've been channeling it for the last few months, bit by bit. So I Can get each part as clean as I can, but it's taking a lot of time. I mean, a lot of time. It's really complicated. But yes, I have, I've heard those things.

It's. It's interesting to put science behind it. And, and one thing that impressed me with your work is you went out and you got readings from different people to see if they agreed, which is very scientific. And I do the same thing. I. I honestly think you shouldn't trust any psychic or, you know, fortune teller or akashic records reader unless you've validated them. And the way you validate is three people all say the same thing and they don't know each other. There's a great likelihood that it's probably real. And the skeptic is going, yeah, but they could be like reading your pulse rate and the dilation of your left eye and they're. Yes, there are mentalists who do that stuff, but those aren't the kind of questions you ask. So.

No. And Dave, honestly, I was telling some friends I want to move in a mini. A modern minimalist apartment on the lake. That's super random, right? And I don't even know why I was saying it. I went into my first reading, this lady looks at me. Never seen her before. I told like three friends that she asked me my name. She reads some sentences. She goes in my Akashic field and she goes, I see a modern minimalist apartment on the lake. And I mean, I was like, wait, what? And it was like, random.

Come on. Totally random.

Totally random, right? And then I. The second reading I did, I was in New York City and I bought this Tibetan bowl on the streets in New York City. And the second reading, I was in Manhattan. I bought it with my partner. We were sitting there in a hotel just purchased the day before, and the first thing she says is, I see a Tibetan bowl. And I'm like, what the fuck? And she starts talking about this bowl and explains it in detail. So it's like that all the time? All the time. There's just. I told this lady once in a reading, I was trying to compare her mind to a tape recorder. And I said, you know those tape recorders, the ones that you got in the basement in a desk in a corner where you pull it out and you push the button and the tape is like that old school tape and the reel is really worn down. I'm like, the story you're telling yourself is like that. It's a worn down. You got to just take that thing, put it back in the basement, put it in a desk. And she looks at me and says, you have no idea what you just said. And I'm like, I don't. I've never met her. And she said, yesterday I found a tape recorder in a desk in the corner in the basement. I took it out, I showed my son that I had this old eight track tape thing. And then I put it back in the corner in the basement in the cabinet. And, and I, I mean, I don't think there's a reading that happens where people aren't in this sort of shock and awe around it. And so it's definitely. Listen, I, I have a lot of things to do with my life. I don't have an interest in Google searching. People are looking for their itwitches. I mean, that's a waste of my time too, right? Like, I'm only doing this because it's really freaking cool and people are getting all this value and I got value. And not only did I go around the country and just call random people because I was such a pain in the ass, I would literally try it over and over and over. But then when I started training people, I used the same question on the first 200 people I trained. I'd ask the exact same question, random people. And I got the same, I mean, different metaphor, slightly different languaging, but the same answer would come through over and over because I was skeptical, right? Like my dad's a world famous physician. I didn't grow up with a religion. This stuff was not accessible to me in a. Like this makes sense for me or, or, I don't know, I felt very fraudulent a lot thinking about it. But it, it just has proven to be so true so many times that I was like, you know what? It's really helpful to my life. And it's like this accelerator to personal growth. So why would I not use this? I mean, I don't get it. I don't think anybody does, but who cares? Like, I don't understand love exactly. Like we don't know why we fall in love. It's a strange thing. I still think it's worth participating in. And art, I mean, art's sort of odd. Why do we care about it? But I love it. So it's worthy, right? I mean, not everything has to be perfectly logical to me all the time. So if it, if it has value, right? And this does for me, love that perspective.

You kind of remind me of Julie Ryan who has been on the show as well. She's a Professional psychic, has a big radio show and we've been friends for many years and she has some like seven or eight big patents in med tech and was a very successful entrepreneur. It's like, look, I can do this. And I find that all kinds of people have these things. A lot of them wouldn't talk about it because, well, throughout most of most of recorded history if you could do stuff like this, they would burn you at the stake. Right. So all the people around today who have these abilities, we've kind of multi generationally learned to be a little cautious about it.

But Dave, honestly like I was a healthcare tech entrepreneur. I built this incredible system for chronic illness. I sat with some of the best people on the planet on different disease states. We came together from Stanford and Harvard and all the, to get the guidelines out of these guys on diseases. It was not black and white, it was not so scientific. It was definitely a bit of an art form to it. All right. And it was an awakening for me that science is not as exacting as everybody would like to think. It's true for a period of time. Some of it is very consistent. Sometimes it's a bit of a, like, oh, you know, and, and so I hear you on it and it's, it's, it's not that popular. When I started to, to do this, you know, I'm gay and I came out in the 90s which was pretty brutal. But honestly coming out as spiritual was like way more uncomfortable. I would go up to my friends and I'm like, I think I found this thing that I'm going to start doing because if it's not so proven, people seem to have such an emotional reaction. To be honest, when, when I really shared this, I found a lot of people were really excited that I was willing to. Because science doesn't always work for all answers in life. And organized religion people are struggling with in certain ways. And I think if you're not a die hard of those two things, there's this middle ground world where I love science and I like parts of religion, but I also like to explore everything else and I think a lot more people are like that. But there's this strange feeling that, you know, you're not allowed to just dabble around and have fun.

Yeah, the playfulness sometimes is missing. But I, I just, I'll just say there's a lot of people that figure out they can, they can do some stuff and then there's, there's a lot of different flavors of it and there's still a Lot of, I'm just gonna, gonna call it skept doubt. So you see people who have, you know, a substantial amount of career attainment, then they come out, even come out as, you know, having psychic powers, not the other kind of coming out that you're well familiar with, even what's his name, the guy who did Waldorf schools? Rudolph Steiner. He also invented a major form of regenerative ag called biodynamic. And he didn't talk about this stuff when he was young, but he could see, he could always see patterns of life and all. And he ended up writing a lot of this stuff in his, in his 40s. He said, all right, fine, I'm ready, and just started pouring out A major school of agriculture based on seasonal cycles that no one else could see in a way of raising kids to be emotionally intact and all this stuff. And so if you're listening to this going, what the heck, Dave? Why are you talking about all this? I thought you were a biohacket. I am. You turn your mitochondria on all the way. You edit the settings in your operating system so you're not tweaked all the time by dumb environmental variables. And then you have all this energy left, and you focus it on stuff. You might be surprised at what you can do. So I like finding people who stumble onto this one way or another, which is why we're having this interview. All right. How long does it take to teach someone to do this?

Yeah, I started this class. Well, I started teaching people, and then I couldn't keep up anymore, so I started teaching it at the Little Soul School. And I have this class once a month. It's 90 minutes. I get everybody in the Akashic records in 90 minutes. Are you good at it?

No.

I mean, again, you're going to walk up to that piano, you touch those keys, it's not music.

Right.

It takes time. You got to practice the chords, you got to put the energy into it. And like I said, there's some talent, but to actually just access the space, I, I, I do this monthly class for 90 minutes. It's 20 bucks. I have a free one as well. If you're super skeptical and you don't want to drop the 20 bucks, you can come.

For 20 bucks, you can. You learn to tap into the Akashic records.

Yeah.

That's like one month of chat GPT and you get, like, lifetime access.

Yeah. Yeah. And if you want to think of.

You ever think of, like, hiring someone from Google to help you? The business model so you're like, it's 20 bucks up front and 5 bucks a month forever, just because it's right.

Yeah.

I. I am laughing, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone out there already thought of that. And I don't think you should do that.

No, no. I mean, I. Listen, I. I'm like a big fan of entrepreneurship. I. I love it, but I think this space has been there for thousands of years, and. And it's not mine.

Right.

And I. And I just want everybody to check it out.

And I know you're joking around. Truly a joke. Like, you can't. It's like telling people, hey, I'll let you keep breathing for only $5 a month. Sorry. The air is there, at least for now. Unless maybe one of the large pharma companies has their way about it, so. And for listeners, it's Laura Coe. L A U R A C O E dot com. I have not done her Akashic records training, so I cannot vouch or not vouch for it, but I have other ways. I do it when I go to 40 years of Zen, so I know of what she speaks, but I have my own ways getting there, and I don't rely on them that frequently. In fact, what I found is that I'm capable of doing, you know, some accounting tasks because I have a degree in that stuff from Wharton. I just hate it. And I don't hate doing the records, but I'm not particularly skilled. Like, I can build shelves. They just might be a little crooked. Right. So I would rather have expert help in building shelves. So when I want to go really deep on something where I'm happy to call you or one of the other handfuls of people that I know have a really tight, Like a tight beam access to these things, and they're just more efficient because if you go there all the time, you're going to be good at it. It's like hiring a backwoods tracker who lives in the backwoods versus the guy who goes hunting three times a year. Like, which one's going to know the terrain? I feel like someone who does it all the time is good.

Yeah. Yeah.

What. What's the craziest request you've ever received to ask for the Akashic records or ask of the Akashic records?

I mean, people mostly ask the same couple questions, right? What's my purpose? Why am I here? How do I find love like most people want to? And what do I heal? Right? Like, those are the things most people are interested in. But my friend Called me one day, and she's like, I lost my wallet. And I was like, well, I'm so sorry to hear that. And she said, well, can you open up my Akashic records? And I was like, I don't think that's what this is for. I think this is really about, like, growth and learning. And I. And I have some reverence to it. So anyways, she was desperate, and she's a good friend. So I was like, all right, whatever. My friends for a while were like, can you pop the records open every five minutes? Once they got a taste I could do this, they wanted to ask me thousands of things. I was like, we gotta stop this. But at that point, I was willing. I went in, I saw this pile of clothing, and I saw her wallet was stuffed in there. And she grabbed the clothing, put it in her hamper. And I was like, I think it's in your hamper. But maybe I'm making this up.

I don't know.

I don't think the record store wallets. So anyways, I said, you gotta really empty out the hamper. Cause it's stuffed in there. So she doesn't call me back. And I think it didn't work. Makes sense. Three hours later, she calls me. She's like, found my wallet. I'm like, where was it? She said, it was in my hamper, exactly where you said. And I'm like, why did it take you three hours? She's like, well, I didn't listen to you. I didn't. I just looked superficially, and I emptied it out in frustration. It was really stuffed in there. And then my partner at the time heard of it. She had lost her wallet, her credit card. And like, a few days later. And I'm like, oh, come on. I'm not a party trick. This is crazy. But I checked again, and her credit card was between the seat and the glove compartment. And I'm like, you gotta move your chair forward. And she took a photo, sent it to me, pushed her chair forward, and it was right there. But that really got me thinking, Dave. Because that meant to me that this space is not just some kind of, like, list of things that I'm aware of. Maybe some way that, like, I'm tapping into people's minds, their memories. They didn't know it was there.

Right? Your.

Your credit card falls out of your pocket in your car. You're not aware of that.

Right?

This idea that every thought, feeling and action is stored sort of really settled in for me in that moment, you know, you've got credit cards, you got wallets, you got everything. They talk about the book of life in the Old Testament. New Testament, right, like that. There's this book of your soul's life. So it's not a new idea, but it's pretty mind boggling.