Anti-Aging Miracle: Try THESE Plants to Reverse Your Age! | Dr. Christian Drapeau

Dave Asprey talks with Dr. Christian Drapeau about stem cells and how certain plants might activate your body's repair system. They discuss extreme longevity cases and which natural compounds could trigger healing and slow aging.
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You have looked into a guy in China who's reported to have lived for 250 years.
His name was Li Qingyuan. Born in 1678, he passed in 1933. You believe it or you don't?
I can't say with 100 certainty and no one can.
Well, go back your grandfather 10 generations ago and tell me if you can find their birth certificate at 250 years. He's offered a chair. He refuses the chair. He's sitting down on the floor with his back straight. He was using a lot of plants trust nature more, really.
You're listening to the human upgrade with Dan Bass. Today's episode is all about the innate repair system in your body. Because if you want to live for a very long time or you just want to recover faster from whatever you did last weekend, you can change how your body recovers. It'll either recover quickly or it'll recover slowly. And there are different repair systems in the body. So our episode today comes with a powerful expert who happens to be a black belt in taekwondo amongst many other things. His name is Christian Drupeau. He's been on the show before. He's a friend. Founder and chief science Officer of STEM regen. 20 years of studying stem cells and has a degree in neurophysiology and has scoured the planet looking for plant compounds that will activate stem cells. The reason I'm so interested in this is that I do $50,000 stem cell procedures and most people aren't going to do that, at least now, and I recognize that. So what can you do that activates and moves your stem cells around to the right places that doesn't break the bank? And Christian in those 20 years, figured out some ways to do that. And it's stuff that I use. It's stuff that I send to my parents. So I found he's. He knows a lot of core science. I was exceptionally skeptical when I first met Christianity. Talked about what he did. I'm like, yeah, right. You know, 10 million stem cells from taking a couple capsules. I. I don't believe it. And we went really, really deep on the science and he showed me what he was doing and how it worked. I'm like, wow, this is one of those things that radically lowers costs. So today we'll probably talk about some of those plant things, but that's not the point of it. The point of this today is for you to understand how your innate repair system works and the different things you can do to turn on healing and to turn on longevity and I think you're going to find he knows things that you won't typically hear anywhere else. Christian, welcome to the show.
My pleasure, Dave. Thank you.
How does the innate repair system work?
Just like you have an immune system. Nobody puts that in question. Everybody knows that you have an immune system in the exact same way you have a repair system. So you get an injury. Let's make the comparison with the immune system. You cut yourself. You have a bacteria that gets into that cut. It will trigger the release of immune cells from your lymph nodes. These immune cells will be attracted specifically to where you have a cut. They will go there, they will migrate beside the bacteria, they will kill the bacteria. This is very well coordinated immune system. Your stem cells are exactly the same. You get an injury, it. It releases compounds that will go to the bone marrow, trigger the release of stem cells from the bone marrow. We can quantify an increase of up to tenfold in the number of stem cells after a significant injury. Then the affected area will release other compounds that will attract stem cells to that area. Stem cells will migrate into that tissue, and upon contact with cellular debris of that tissue, stem cells will become cells of that tissue. Just so it's your repair system. And what I find fascinating in this is that every single human being on the planet, without one exception, have experienced that the body repairs. Everybody has had a cut, a broken bone, a bruise, whatever. Everybody observes that is witness to the fact that their body repairs. And yet in medicine, until stem cell research discovers the natural role of stem cells in the body, we did not have an understanding. I mean, nobody brought up the question, how does the body actually repair? You get a broken bone, the doctor puts you in a cast, says, come back in six weeks, we take off the cast. There's no language about what do you do during those six weeks to help your body repair? It's because we did not have an understanding. So that's the repair system.
We know that as you age, your immune system becomes less effective. And one of the things that's likely causing a substantial amount of aging is inappropriate activation of immune response inflammation. So this could be food allergies, environmental allergies, or even autoimmunity. And that this tends to make you old and lower performing. In the meantime, what's the difference between activation or inappropriate activation of the immune system versus the innate repair system from stem cells?
In terms of stem cells, the best answer that I can give you is that I'm not aware of a, an actual like activation of stem cells. That could be excess activation of stem cells, we have two things that, that work together. One is stem cells like they age just like any cells, actually more than other cells because they divide so much in the body. So you get improperly folded proteins and everything that comes from a very active cell accumulates in the cell. So autophagy and actually it's interesting to see that fasting that triggers autophagy. Some studies, not enough has been done. But from what has been done, if you take a stem cell from the bone marrow and then you have the person and you test its ability to prolifera a tissue and then you get that person do a three day fast, then you take another sample of their bone marrow. The stem cells have rejuvenated during those three days. So post fasting they will migrate more easily, more effectively, will multiply more effectively. So there's some evidence to show that your stem cell age, but you can rejuvenate them through a fast. That's the first thing that happens to sort of modulate or modify the ability of urinate repair system to function in the body. The other one is simply the fact that red marrow converts to fatty marrow as we age. That happens very early in our lives. By age 15, we've lost 50% of our overall red marrow. In our 30s, it reaches 90%. So as a young adult in your 30s, you start to realize one day you don't repair as well. That's just because you don't have as many stem cells in circulation. That is probably like the main difference that happens as we age. It's a decline in the number of stem cells available to participate to tissue repair.
What can you do to have younger stem cells besides fasting?
I would say the only thing, and it's not a great response, is that you have stem cells in your body that do not multiply a lot. So they then remain younger. So these are fat adipose stem cells. There's a new type of stem cells that are, they're called muse stem cells. Multi, multilineage. You are stem cells that tend to remain extremely resistant to changes, stress. So they tend to remain young. So they're young stem cells. If you try to rejuvenate your own stem cells at this point, fasting is the only thing that I know. Do you know any, anything else?
It looks like senolytics can do the same thing.
Senolytics, I'm not aware of the role of, I don't know if the world of the role of synolytics have been studied in stem cells. In other cells, they Will tend to basically apoptosis, the, the right end path of senolytics. You make them disappear and you replace them. And they're replaced by stem cells.
They are replaced by stem cells. And one of the protocols I've used, you use pharmaceuticals analytics for a little while before drawing marrow cells so that you get rid of all of the older, weaker cells and you get a younger cohort. Doesn't mean you've reversed the age of the stem cells, but you get ones that are as young and healthy as they can be. And so I've got 2 billion marrow cells banked and I've had my fat stem cells banked for eight or 10 years now. And for listeners, if you get a chance to bank your stem cells, it's a really good idea. However, these are expensive procedures to do and I think it's worth it if you have lots of money. And if you don't have lots of money, the easiest thing to do is say, well, how do I make my body release stem cells like I'm young? And you can do that with stem regen. Very briefly, tell me how stem regen actually makes the body release more stem cells.
Stem regen is made of plant extracts that have all been documented by quantifying the number of stem cells in the bloodstream using flow cytometry to put more stem cells in circulation within just a few hours of consumption. And by the way, it's the normal physiology of stem cells. They don't stay in your blood very long, they're released, they go into tissues or they go Back to the B.O. the fact that we find that the effect is short lived, it's almost like an indirect confirmation that what we're documenting is real physiology of stem cells. The way that it's doing it. The simplest way for me to explain it is just like when you have fasting mimicking compounds, let's call them injury mimicking compounds, they trigger in your body the same kind of reaction that would happen if you have an injury and suddenly that injury is calling for stem cells. So it's the release we can pick up in the blood certain compounds like G, GM, CSF, stem cell factor, SDF1. These are all compounds that modulate stem cell function in the body. And these planes just happen to modulate the secretion of these of these compounds in your bloodstream. So in a nutshell, that's what we do.
Okay, makes sense to me. You're causing the stem cells to get released more. Are you going to somehow negatively affect your body if you're causing it to reduce or to release more stem cells than it normally would. Are you going to run out?
I mean, I can answer this question from different angles. Number one, which is to me like the most obvious. How did we find those plants? We found these plants by looking at plants that have been used historically, like for centuries and have been historically associated with many different kinds of benefits. Because if you release stem cells, they will go to the pancreas of the diabetic, the heart of the heart patient, the lung of the person with emphysema. So you would expect a broad variety of benefits. I'm looking for those plants and these are the ones that we have now in stem regen. So you look and these have been used for centuries. So if they're, if these plants or releasing stem cells has any impact, negative impact on the body, it would have been picked up in history. So that's the first way to say they're safe. They've been used for a long time, they're safe. A second way to answer the question, athletes, like Olympic athletes, like intense athletes, the people who will train every day for let's say a decade or more, every time you have a very intense physical activity, you release a lot of stem cells. So are athletes running out of stem cells? No, they don't. And the last, the last angle to answer that question, there's a study done. I won't go into the detail of it because it gets complex, but the answer is mind blowing. The question was if we do myoablation like what you do in a cancer treatment, leukemia treatment, you kill all the bone marrow, how many stem cells do you need to inject to make sure that you can rebuild the bone marrow? And the question was, if you have only one stem cell but you know it's a stem cell, is that enough? And the study have shown that if you inject one stem cell, you can completely in six weeks reconstitute the entire bone marrow in the blood system.
Wow.
So, so releasing 10 million out of your old bone marrow bank is like you taking a bucket of water out of the ocean and wondering if you're going to empty the ocean.
There's no impact stem cells of like little nano machines, it just takes a couple to self replicate and rebuild your bo so they're rapidly generating way, way faster than something like the liver that can also regenerate totally.
And there's a stimulus. It depends what is needed. They can replicate very fast.
Christian, you and I are both interested in extreme longevity reports throughout history. And it has to be throughout history because if you're trying to find people who have lived longer than 120 years, it's historical. I'm aware of a case that's well documented in India of a guy who lived to 185. Have a book about it downstairs. And you have looked into a guy in China who's reported to live or to have lived for 250 years. And yeah, there's all kinds of detractors say that can't happen because it didn't. But let's assume that everyone on the planet isn't an idiot because they don't believe the same things you believe. So we're just being curious about this. What was the reported practice of this guy? Tell me about him.
So it's a fellow in China, I think his name was Li Qingyuan, at least English pronunciation of his name. Born in 17, sorry, 1678. And I think he passed in 1933. Basically the challenge there, like you just said, it could not be true because nobody can live that long. And if it's true, then show his birth certificate. Well, go back your grandfather 10 generations ago and tell me if you can find their birth certificate. So looking back at the history and again, like the one that you mentioned in India, tons of documentation. And when he's asked what is the secret of his longevity? There are three main things. Number one, he was using a lot of plants. And very interestingly, he was using plants like goji berry, photi, photai, and then reishi mushroom. All three were shown to support stem cells. Goji berry, reishi support the migration of stem cells. Photi released stem cells. We did these studies years ago. We even filed a patent on it. So very interesting. He was stimulating his stem cells second at 250 years when in a meeting, he's offered the chair and he refuses the chair. He's sitting down on the floor with his back straight. So he refused any. He walked 30 miles on that day to go to that meeting. He refused to get into a cart pulled by horses. So muscle like activity, physical activity all every day of his life. In the third one, he says, have a light heart. And that was his main comment, have a light heart. So don't worry about anything. Most of the way. It makes me think of Mark Twain when he said, I spend my entire life resolving problems that fortunately never happened. So all the stress of the stuff that we make up in our own minds that actually do not reflect reality at all, just let it go. So anyway, so that was his secrets to Longevity.
I've always been intrigued by these reports of people living a long time. And you look in the Bible, you look in any ancient religious text, they talk about it all the time, hundreds of years. It could be that all of them are just crazy and lying, or it could be that we believe some things that aren't true. Some of these texts also reference ancient cities. And then, oh, look, someone reads the text and goes and digs in the sand and what do you know, there's a city there. So I can't say with 100% certainty, and no one can, that all of these reports from around the world are real or false. But I think there's a pattern that's worth paying attention to. And funny enough, this guy had a very specific protocol that was stem cell focused. So I think they're a part of, of living a very long life and certainly living healthy until you are going to die.
And, and there's documentation of these. Like you go back to the biblical times. I mean, there's no verification. There's absolutely nothing to verify. You believe it or you don't. So let's say even if you put these aside and you go to places like the fellow people, like the fellow that you talk in India or these Chinese men, there is a lot of reports at the time of his living, like I think like every 50 years he got a certificate for his longevity. Well, at 250 years, it's a bunch of certificates that were confirmed. So there's a lot of traces of his existence during all that time. So even if we don't believe 256, let's say he lived a long time, at least 150. And in that way, to me, what is so powerful about these testimonials is that you can't achieve what you don't believe in. So if you don't believe that you can live 200 years, your mind is such that you cannot reach it. So the moment that you see these cases, it kind of breaks your ceiling in beliefs. And now the moment that you start to accept it and believe in it, it gives the collectivity, the ability of basically reaching these, you know, reaching greater longevity just by belief.
One of the things I do for that is when I celebrate my birthday, I just do it in percentages of my minimum. So I'm very serious about living to at least 180. And it's less about not dying, it's more about living all the way as long as I choose. And when I look at the practice of doing that, telling my body that it's at 29% duty cycle is a lot more effective than whatever dumb calendar age. So I think that's part of that being light in the heart and just having a worldview that says you're going to live a lot longer.
I mean, that's one thing that all centenarians, or super centenary centenarians have is that they do not develop a disease until just a few months before passing. So somewhere, anything that can delay the onset of any disease or maintain the health that you have today is basically playing into this whole game of longevity. And that's where stem cells become to me, like such a central part of this whole question, beautiful.
One of the mysteries of the body is that we have these micro capillaries and they're smaller in diameter than red blood cells. So somehow we have this little straw and you're sucking a bowling ball through a straw and it cannot happen because of pressure. You can't blow something through a cell that's bigger than it is. How does that work and how does it affect stem cells?
Well, the red blood cells themselves are just about the size of a capillary. So the real question comes with stem cells. Stem cells can be.










