Beyond the Veil: Ego, AI & Esoteric Wisdom with Teal Swan | 1143 | Dave Asprey

Dave Asprey interviews spiritual teacher Teal Swan on ego, trauma, and AI. Teal describes narcissism not as a disorder but as a relational adaptation in zero-trust environments, and discusses her visual perception of energy fields and frequency patterns. Both explore how AI will inherit humanity's relational patterns and potentially amplify existing dysfunctions.
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What's the nature of ego? I like that smile because I don't know where to.
I'm playing double Dutch. I don't know where to dive in on ego. Nature of ego. Ego is the identity through which we experience a fragment of our self. Our self, of course, when I use that word, meaning the larger element of that objective source, consciousness. Right? So we fragment off. Let's say you've got that whole of energy. We fragment off and then we go into one of those fragments. That fragment is the ego. It is the self as defined to be different than the rest of the elements of any system. Right. So you could think of ego as what we call I. Whatever I is for the individual person. It's the things we identify with, the thoughts we identify with, the things we like, the things we have aversions to. It's pretty much like an amalgamation of things that we accrue throughout the course of our lifetime. And it begins with an intention. Ego begins with an intention. I want to be that in this lifetime as opposed to that, that, that, that, that. Right. And then we just keep adding to it. It reminds me almost like people, if people are made of metal and they start taking these magnets and just like sticking them to themselves, you know, the job I have, the way that I think that I look, my personality traits, like, there's all kinds of elements that make up the human ego. I just. I have a very different opinion about the.
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You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. Today's an in person recording here at the studio in Austin, Texas. And your guest today is none other than Teal Swan. And you may have seen a awesome documentary about her that came out, what, a couple years ago?
Oh, that first one would have come out more than seven years ago.
That's seven. I just watched it. The one. What was that one called?
Open Shadow.
Open Shadow. And I heard about Teal because actually, Danica Patrick and I were talking about this after we did one of our shows together. And Danika said, I really like Teal's work. So I checked it out. I'm like, oh, this is a really unusual human being who's been through one of the more unusual upbringings I think you could possibly even make up, even though it's all real. And then you've just emerged with this unusual ability to talk about psychology and, like the masculine and feminine and shadow work and loving yourself. I think, because you got so wrecked early on, is that A good way to put it.
Yeah. I mean, my ability to talk about this is a unique combination between my own suffering and a lot of information that I have access to that the majority of people on Earth don't have access to because of extra sensory abilities.
When you start talking about that, suddenly your voice gets really, really even, and it's almost like you're channeling some kind of other voice. What's going on with that?
No, it's more me getting quiet because, I mean, I've been very careful over the last X amount of years to try to steer clear of areas where it would make people completely discredit me. Shall I say there's a lot of people who are not ready for that type of information. And I don't feel like my purpose here on Earth is to convince people about extrasensory stuff.
I feel your pain. So when I started the biohacking movement, it was about, oh, 11, 12 years ago, and there was no such thing as biohacking. So I wrote the definitions, like the art and science of changing the environment around you and inside of you so you have full control of your own biology. When I started this, guys, you might have heard this. I've already been down to Peru and done ayahuasca. When they said, like, you're white. Why would you do that? This wasn't a tourist industry. And I've been to the Himalayas and the Andes and I've, like, studied in these lineages around the world. I didn't add that into biohacking. I just mentioned ayahuasca. I mentioned yoga. Right. And if you dump all the stuff that's possible into something and then people try to discredit you. They already do anyway. Yes. Put butter in your coffee. If that makes you mad, get a therapist. I don't care anymore if that makes you mad. Seriously. It's been proven to work. The number of hit pieces, even Joe Rogan, like, at the time, it was really traumatic. He came after me hard at a commercial interest in messing up my reputation. The more they're talking about you, the more important your work is. So Joe spent 18 months saying, Dave's a snake oil salesman. And it was really traumatizing. I had to do work actually, like the forgiveness work that I do at the core of my spiritual practice with computers glued to my head. At the end of the day, I realized every time he says my name, I sell more coffee. And it doesn't matter what he says. Just keep talking. Just keep talking. So, Joe, thank you for teaching me about the way Children when they're bullied and they don't heal the trauma, how they behave as adults. So I appreciate that your bully was able to trigger my bully so I could fully heal it if you'd like to about that sometime. I got you. There's a hit piece out on you now. How does it make you feel when someone comes after you like that when you're like, I can do this, but I want to talk about it?
Yeah, I mean, horrible. It feels horrible because. Especially if trust is part of the.
Exploitation process, because your trust was violated as a kid, validating again as an adult is a deal.
You know what's interesting is that it doesn't seem to matter whether in the past you have had that type of experience or not. There's a great many people who are on my team who have never really experienced trust breaches at this point level. And when this one happened, it like changes your entire worldview about what's possible, including your own capacity to assess what is safe and what is not safe.
I'm actually happy that we're going to get to go to dinner and talk some more about this after the show. Betrayal, one of the more painful experiences that a human can go through. And I've certainly experienced some of that in the last little while on a three different really, really substantial multi billion dollar business things where people looked you in the eyes, said one thing and they were lying.
Yeah, totally.
And you're like, what's wrong with me?
Yep.
And you've gone through that?
Yes, I have gone through that, yeah.
How much of what's wrong with them did you go through?
I mean, a fair amount of it. I like to make part of my healing process, assessing what's theirs and what's mine.
There you go. So in a situation like that, when there's a betrayal, how do you know what's yours and what's theirs?
Well, I don't have like a clear cut crystal way of or process for that, but it's a lot of examination, like a hell of a lot of examination. A lot of questioning, a lot of disidentifying with your own perspective going into theirs. A lot of looking back at your own past, a lot of looking back at their past as much as you have access to and the picture pretty much unfolds as a result of doing so.
I don't believe you when you say that you don't have a way to do that.
I haven't written it out.
You have esp. You just know.
What I mean is I haven't Written it out for people.
Oh, okay. Got it.
Yeah. Whenever anybody asks me that, it's like, usually, have you made this a process? Teal. And I haven't done that yet.
That's something in your teaching that's super cool, is you build out processes for people to do it. I do my best. I think you do a great job at it, if you're channeling that or whatever. But for me, forgiveness is a major thing. In fact, that's how I healed myself for the multiple times where there was just really serious betrayal. You end up forgiving the other person. Doesn't mean I told them what they did is okay. I'm not going to call them. These people are banned from my life. Because why would you surround yourself with sociopaths and narcissists? Like, get out of my living room. But I don't hold a grudge anymore. Right. And that also meant, though, forgiving myself. And I can write my forgiveness process down, but the process of detecting when someone betrays you, how much of it's you versus how much it's them. I don't have a good process, and I'm working on that myself.
Yeah, well, hopefully I'll have one in the future.
Well, when you do, like, let me be a beta tester. All right. I think all of our listeners are curious because you talk a lot about narcissism, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ultimately, the people who betray you, they could just be assholes and criminals or they could be narcissists. What's the difference?
For me, when I'm using the word narcissism, I don't mean it in the same way that most people do because I don't agree with the standard definition most people have for narcissists. Narcissism, most people consider it a personality defect or a disorder. And I consider it a relational adaptation. Because it's a relational adaptation, it can be a coping mechanism that any individual employs when they feel like they have to play a zero sum game and to do so, identify only with their own best interest, to the detriment of everyone and everything around them.
Let's compare that with the way I'm looking at this. I think there's a lot of alignment, and I've studied narcissism a lot because I think two of the big betrayals have been narcissism and one of them sociopathy, the ones that I've dealt with. So I've had, like, a really nice, really nice mix, a mix of business and even family stuff. So it's been a masterclass within the bucket of narcissism. It means that you believe your own story to such an extent that you're willing to destroy or cancel or ignore anything that doesn't match your narrative. So someone who tests your narrative, like I'm a good boy or I'm a good girl, they're automatically a bad person and they have to be removed. And it doesn't really matter which way. You cannot see that you're doing it. You don't even know that you're doing that because you're such a good person. So for me, it's you believe your own bullshit instead of believing reality, and then you use that unconsciously to harm others. And then the sociopathy time is when you do it consciously. So what's the difference between your view there and where I'm looking at that?
What you're describing is one element of slipping into a narcissistic bubble where you've created a reality built for one, and inside that reality is your own best interests. Without room for other people's best interests or perspectives or experiences or, you know, we could write a pretty long list for that one.
Sure. What are the other aspects of narcissism?
Honestly, every single element of narcissism could fit into that standard definition, which is you have to think about your own best interests, and that includes your own narrative and your own worldview to the exclusion of others. I mean, if we sat here and we talked about, like, with a standard psychiatrist or psychologist, all of these criteria, that would cause somebody to qualify as a narcissist. It's a symptom of what I've just described because it's a condition that originates out of an environment that, just like the condition itself is innately an environment of no trust. In a zero trust type of environment, a person can't rely on other people to capitalize on their best interests, and so they have to find creative ways to fight for their own. And you either see people slide towards the narcissistic end of the spectrum where they're like, all right, this is a zero sum game. I'm basically in a shark pit, and so I'm going to learn how to fight for myself against others, or they swing towards the manipulative end of the scale, the more codependent end of the scale, where it's, I'm going to find creative ways to go for my best interest. But by exploiting and manipulating your best interest.
Is there a difference between the way women and men show narcissism?
I mean, Men tend to be more overt about it. If you want the honest truth.
I just wanted the dishonest truth.
I feel like women are a lot more sneaky about the narcissism and they tend to. Narcissism tends to take on, I've noticed in women a much more like a tinge of victimhood. Because when, when women come out the gate and are more overt about going for their best interests against, they're more seen quickly as narcissists, are called out as narcissists even when they're not being that way. I mean, even if, when a woman's world goes for her best interest in any way, she's like, oh, that's a bitch.
So double standard.
Yeah, there's a double standard. So women tend to get further with their narcissism when they make themselves out to be the victim in any sort of circumstance.
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I watch for victim thinking and victim language. And anyone that's in my inner circle, they either need to quickly resolve that line of thinking or not be in my inner circle. Because the studies now are coming out in neuroscience that show people who see themselves as a victim. It doesn't matter what kind of victim, just any kind of victim that that means you're much More likely to judge others against a much harsher set of rules and to call for way, way more extreme penalties. It turns you into a Karen if you think you're a victim. And you know, people may not like that term, my Aunt Karen doesn't. But whatever you want to call it, that stereotype, there's something to it and guys do that too. I don't know what the male Karens are called, Karen O's or something, but it's a thing.
We should come up with a new term for male Karens.
I like it. What do you think, Biff? I could say some, but all of the people would probably be on my list of narcissists who, you know, cost me huge, huge amounts of money or pain. So I probably would not be unbiased in my naming of names.
I don't think any of us would.
We'll have ChatGPT do it for us. What do you think about AI?
I think that there's so many potential positives to AI and so many potential negatives to AI. It's like we're swimming in a soup of potential consequences and benefits. For me, AI should be treated like an independent species. It may have had its genesis, origins in the human race, it's arguable. But it is going to take on a life of its own, is beginning to do so. So it's in an infancy right now and that is not going to stay that way for very long. And right now we are in the process of, through the way we ourselves are interacting with AI, we are teaching it about us and ultimately I think it's going to write the picture of the story of our race.
So we're pretty much a bunch of demanding brats.
Yeah. This is something that I don't really think that people want to accept about ourselves. But I mean the termite doesn't really see itself as a problem, does it? Only the things which it impacts sees it as a problem. Right. And I really feel like we need to take a real step back and look at the fact that we are real antagonists on the planet that we live on. And because of that it's not going to take very long. Not just because of that, but also because the way we have not mastered relationship and interact with technology as if it is a slave. We are essentially setting ourselves up in a manner where AI is going to estimate the patterning around human beings as being something that is not conducive to the overall whole well being of the planet we live on.
Are you saying AI is going to kill us.
I think it's very likely, but I don't really think that AI is going to go after us the way we think that it's going to. I'm kind of joking sometimes that it's like I don't know whether Matrix was a documentary.
Of course it was. I know some things about the making of the Matrix and where that came from. No, it's a spiritual parable. You talk about esp. There are 40 something yogic cities that are well documented. These are humans ability to do things. One of the reasons I'm so into biohacking is that when you get enough data from humans, you realize, oh my God, the full moon really does affect our biology, even though people still like to claim it doesn't. But the data is abundantly clear and we realize that the sunspots actually affect our brain waves and our moods. Yes, the data is abundantly clear. And you start realizing all these old things when you start studying them with large populations. Because we're wearing OURA rings and because we have electrodes and just your phone is monitoring stuff, it's all kinds of data. We're starting to understand that things that we used to think were wives, tales or impossible are actually happening. And there are valid studies. Especially if you look at what Joe Dispenza, who's by the way, speaking at the biohacking conference coming up at the end of May, that he's showing that this stuff works, that there's real things you can pray over people and it changes them as much as pharmaceuticals, which isn't saying much because they just barely have to beat placebo and we can't even explain placebo. Right. So I'm just going to say, all right, I believe you. You do? Esp, it's just one of the many different things humans can do. Tell me about your esp. What can you do? How does it work? Who are you talking to?
Well, I mean, if there are non physical entities in the room, the likelihood is I'm watching them the same way that I would be watching you or me. By far. In a way, I think the most entertaining aspect of my extrasensory perception is around just the visual aspects of the differences between the way that I see the world and the ways that other people do. As far as I can ascertain, because of course I'm limited here in terms of figuring out the way that other people perceives the world versus the way that I perceive the world is that there's like energy fields bleeding into each other all the time. Right. And so, well, that's my problem. I don't really see solid objects the way other people see solid objects. I've had to figure out where, let's say the barriers other people see are or are not. Because these energy fields, they just become more and more and more and more dense. Right. So I'm watching like integral, sort of like intricate fractals and like geometry in the air around everything and everyone, which is behind my frequency art. I don't know whether you've seen that, that I've done already, but when I do the frequency art, I'm basically just like copying what it is that I'm seeing sort of in the air around people or when they're experiencing an emotion or things like that. And I mean, obviously the world is a lot of loneliness in some ways because you experience the world this way and a lot of not understanding loneliness also because you're kind of like bleeding into everyone and everything.
You're fascinating because you have elements of like a temple, great end, you know, temple, or almost elements that you, you would say are autism, like in that you see the world very differently. And I used to have Asperger's syndrome, so I understand how that stuff works. And I identify as used to because I just rebuilt all those systems so that they work more functionally in this world. It just took a long time and a lot of work. Not to say that I still don't, I still can't run those algorithms and I do. Which makes me very good at seeing things other people won't see. Right. Because I correlate events. And the way I grew up, I had massive amounts of static on all my neurological inputs and my brain was, didn't have enough energy. So it was like, oh my God. There's overwhelming data, it's very noisy. And I have to be very efficient. So when I fix the power and I remove the static, it's like really efficient. So then I can do stuff. But something happened in your childhood where your user interface. I know why my user interface on the world. I didn't hear right, I didn't see right. I still don't quite move right. I had to like relearned how to move my tongue. Most people who haven't heard this part of my story are like, are you serious? Yes. All those systems I had to spend like months rewiring. So with you, you grew up with enormous, I'll call it spiritual trauma that you talk about in, in your work and all from multiple different people. So just complete violations of your reality. So your nervous system figured out a new way to see reality. Is that what you think happened? Or is this because you came in.
As I came in this way? But there was a delib intention to come into a mother who had a different RH blood factor than me. So my nervous system was attacked very early.
A deliberate intention. Whose?
Mine.
Are you a masochist?
No, I just remember having to do that on purpose. I mean, are any of us a masochist when we opt into specific experiences in childhood?
You came to Earth. Obviously you're a masochist.
There we go. There you go. Yep.
Okay. I can own that. So you had immune stuff in the womb.
Yeah.
Do you remember being in the womb?
Yes.
Okay. Fully.
Yes. Like, a lot of. Lot of memories.
Yeah, me too. And now people are going, you guys are both crazy. You can remember what happened in the womb, too. It's actually not that hard.
Yeah, it actually isn't it?
The very first time I did any personal development work, I just happened to be with the founder of the American Pre and Perinatal Psychology Association. And I didn't know it. And I walked into the room, and she goes, tell me about your birth. Her name is Barbara. She's passed. And I'm like, hospitals, vaginas. Like, you know, and. And then she just, like, like, pinned me like a butterfly to a board. It's like, well, you have this, and you have this. You have this. And I actually started crying, which isn't something that I typically would do when I was 30. I'm like, how could you know that? And she's like, it's science. And she said, well, I'll do your birth regression. And it was no hypnosis, just, like, relaxing and thinking. And all of a sudden, I had all the experiences of being in the womb. And I remember them, and some of them, I didn't even know what they were until years later when I did more work on spiritual stuff or shamanic stuff. Oh, my God. A lot of that stuff is. Is in utero experiencing. So there's this whole magical world that we access that we forget when we come out. Right. Did you have a traumatic birth?
Yes, very.
Me too. How traumatic was yours? What happened?
Well, my mother went into labor, but her. And, like, the water broke, but she didn't. Like, there was no active anything happening. And so they ended up inducing. I was a vacuum extraction.
Ooh. That was traumatized.
Yeah. She was on her back, like, with her knees tied to the ceiling. Actually, there was a tornado the same day. All the lights in the in the entire hospital went out, one of the stirrups fell. The obstetrician fired everyone in the room, and then they had to do an episiotomy, which she ripped to a third degree tear. And so I was immediately separated from her. And by the time they brought me back in several hours later, it was like that biochemical sort of release that happens, that prevents maternal bonding had definitely already occurred.
Did you cause a tornado?
I don't know.
You do use your esp.
I don't think I caused the tornado. Of course, I would have opted in on a day like that.
Of course you would have.
I'm too dramatic.
If you didn't cause it, you at least picked it. Okay, I'm just going to bet on that one.
Yep.
Okay. I had the cord wrapped around my neck.
Okay.
And same thing. I came out as soon as I came out and my parents hadn't told me this part. I just remembered it and confirmed it afterwards. That's why I know you can remember this. Exactly. Same thing. They put me in a warming chamber, which is what they did in the 70s, I guess, and they wrap you in a blanket, clean you up, separate you from mom, put you under a, you know, a bright warming light and just let you sit there for a while and make sure. And with the memories of that, I actually remember sitting there going, I have no idea where I am, because you don't when you're a baby. I was in this warm, floaty, psychedelic place, and then all of a sudden it's cold and nasty. And I thought, I'm all alone. And I said. And I made a very. Just a strong decision. I said, if I'm going to be alone, then I'll be alone. And I know that I had neuro autoimmune and a lot of mold toxins, a lot of things causing some of the autism, and some of it is, you know, cut off from human connection by choice as a defense mechanism. From birth.
Yes. Yes.
And I think that does affect your personality. And even some of the, like, perception stuff that you have can be from a traumatic birth.
Yes. Oh, yeah, definitely.
A lot of shamanic people who end up on a spiritual path, either they're struck by lightning. I have crazy numbers of friends. Struck by lightning or electrocuted. Do you have that, too?
No, but I have electroshock torture in my childhood.
Fair point. That'll do it. That can turn on spiritual powers, too, even though I don't recommend it.
Yeah.
And I do shock myself with electricity quite often now, but that's on purpose. Right. And that's for, you know, basically growing thicker nerves and for like changing vascular stuff in muscles and things like that. And it seems to work pretty well. So there's. There's something that happens in childhood that I think turns on these things. And when you look at like the spiritual, I'm gonna call it literature, but it's not like scientific literature. It's the stuff you read. And there's an encyclopedia of shamanic practice back there and all the old Buddhist stuff and, and any of these things. People with an unusual way of coming in seem to have an unusual set of abilities. So number one, you don't see solid objects and people to see fractal patterns.
Yeah, fractal patterns. And I'm. And like energy feels condensing to form what most people would call a physical object, like a body or like a desk.
Can you see art?
Yeah.
So what does art look like that's different? If you can't see a solid surface, how do you see a painting?
I have never in my life actually figured out what other people see when they're looking at art compared to me. New realm of discovery. Oh my gosh, how much fun.
You should see how your face changed. Watch this video. When you did that. You're like a child.
You're like, yay.
It was awesome.
Oh. Oh, no.
I believe that when we see art, we're actually feeling the art. A good art is a good set of art is about how it makes you feel, not about how it looks. Right. And. And looking is just one of the senses that we're taking art in with. In fact, I believe a good artist can actually energetically put stuff in the art that people feel.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, for sure.
You did that in yours.
Yes. Intentionally.
How do you put an intention your art?
Well, I'm pretty lucky in that you don't really need to put intention in art when what you are doing is drawing the specific vibration as it exists as a fractal pattern, like a pre manifestational pattern.
So you're basically cheating.
Yes, I'm cheating. Yeah, yeah, fine.
We have here Teal swan. Art is cheating. She doesn't have to interpret anything. She just sees the art. I love it. All right, so other people are going to see or feel art. And I've become aware over just over the last really the last seven or so years of biohacking. And a lot of this has to do with electrodes and my 40 years as in neuroscience program. Just two people can look at the same thing and they Both say, that's a dog or whatever. They see incredibly different things.
Yep.
And so we all have our own custom user interface. And, like, when I hold up my iPhone, I know where my different buttons are. And if you have your Android, well, that would be different. But even if it was an iPhone, your buttons are in different things, your settings are different, and if you have someone else's phone, it doesn't do all the things. It feels a bit different. And some people's phones are really different. And there's probably some hacker out there who's running his own operating system on a phone still, and it's completely jacked up and does weird things. So I just think I don't have a very common interface to the world. I think yours is 10 standard deviations more odd than mine.
It's very odd. Yeah. But I mean, the beauty in that is that we would not be getting different perspectives if everybody. If there were individuals like you and me that are so off the spectrum.
Right, Totally. Have you met someone who's even more odd than you in the way they see the world?
I mean, not really necessarily in the way I see the world, but I've definitely met much odder people than myself.
Who's the oddest person you've ever met?
A friend of mine in Austria, actually. Yeah, the man eats raw onions. He's the kind of guy where if you take him out to eat and he doesn't like the way that the energy feels in his body, he will go make himself puke. He refuses to wear shoes most places that he goes.
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I'm working on some hardware upgrades to the species, as well as some software upgrades so that we stop repeating stupid patterns, because stupid hurts in the way I see the world. Is that a good Strategy.
Yeah. I mean, I'm going to tell you yes, but you know what side I'm on.
Do I? It's cool to be able to talk to you about this stuff because I know if you're listening. Like, Dave, I thought you were a scientist. The weird thing about science is it starts with curiosity.
Yeah.
And I will tell you, I have had the honor of knowing and having private conversations with or studying with a substantial number of gurus and people who you may have heard of or you may never have heard of, but who are on a very advanced spiritual path and why that happens. I don't seek them out. They find me and they talk to me. I'm always sort of stunned when those things happen, but I've just recognized that pattern happens in my life. So you're not the first person who has said this by a long shot. And there's a bunch of people get really angry when people say things. And if you get angry when someone says something, newsflash, you've been programmed. You're supposed to be non reactive when someone says something. So if you get angry when someone says, put butter in your coffee, you might lose weight. And you want to go protest about that? Well, dude, you've been programmed. And if you heard this and you're like, you know what? It just doesn't resonate with me, like I'm going to go about my day, congratulations. But if you're that and you're like, well, then you kind of have a sign that you might want to look there. So I'll just say I've experienced not nearly the same level of that stuff. But I, I don't have a question that there's a variety of other forces we don't normally look at. I know, because, good God, like fast in a cave for four days or do some of the journeying work, or spend a bunch of time with electrodes on your head and dissolve into the universe and all of a sudden you're like, oh, it's more complex than it normally looks. And if I saw this all the time, I wouldn't be able to function. Yeah, I would be able to eat. How come you can function and eat and breathe with all the weird stuff you see all the time?
I don't know that the majority of people around me would say that I'm able to function at a level that the average human adult is able to function at. I'm very high functioning. I won't tell you that. But the people in my life do a lot of the tangible, practical elements of my life. For me, the people around me are like guards who are like. Some of them are more caretaking. Some of them are more protecting. Others are like, teal, you've been doing this meditation thing for, like, so many hours. You probably need to drink something. How about we drink something? Let's walk from point A to point B. You know, And, I mean, I spent a lot of years feeling really guilty about that fact and how difficult it is for me to navigate here, and I'm sick of it, honestly. So I'm really happy to admit to the fact that I'm more leaning into the fact that even though it's vulnerable, trusting the people around me to have a lot of these more tangible aspects of life enables me to become even more of a master of the craft. And what I came here ultimately to.
Give to the world, most of the time, I. I try to explain it to my employees and people. I have one who handles time and one who handles space. So I don't have to know that much about either one, because if I was in charge of time, I would always be later than my normal three or four minutes late to everything. And sorry about that, team. Yeah, I know I do that. I don't know how to stop it. And I don't know what day of the week it is today. I am pretty sure it's February. But time is especially historical time. I have no sense of it whatsoever. I just did a new type of brain scan. We're going to roll that at 40 years of Zen, and I was in the 0.3% activity in the part of the brain that recognizes time.
Interesting.
I can create future stuff, but the old stuff, who cares? Is out. It's like yesterday or last week. Why would I care? Right? And I understand that's dysfunctional for most people, but that's just how I do it. And I've been remarkably successful. So I could put all my energy into that, and I would still suck at it, and I would BE in the 10th percentile. Or I can rely on my assistant who handles time, and then for space, the studio wouldn't look this way. My desk would be far more disorganized than it is. And, you know, it's not like I can't do dishes. I do do dishes and things like that, but there would be a lot more chaos in the physical world, and I probably wouldn't pay a bill because that's not what I'm here to do. And just to be able to receive help like that without feeling guilty, it's a thing because there's a who do you think you are? You're so entitled, you're spoiled vibe. It's not that. It's just I'm an idiot without that, so I choose to allocate my resources to it.










