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Hallucinogenic Experiences Vary By Age: Dr. Thomas Roberts with Dave Asprey

Name: Hallucinogenic Experiences Vary By Age: Dr. Thomas Roberts with Dave Asprey
Uploaded: 2020-05-26T20:16:42+00:00
Duration: 37 s
Channel: Dave Asprey
Description: In this brief exchange, Dr. Thomas Roberts and Dave Asprey explore why hallucinogenic substances produce different outcomes across individuals. They…

26 May 2020 · 1 min

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In this brief exchange, Dr. Thomas Roberts and Dave Asprey explore why hallucinogenic substances produce different outcomes across individuals. They argue that a combination of personality, current emotional state, and biological health—particularly age-related liver and kidney function—affects how psychedelics are experienced. Roberts suggests that LSD (acid) may be easier on the liver than psilocybin mushrooms, making it a preferable choice for older adults. The conversation also touches on more speculative ideas, such as Stan Grof’s theory that planetary positions (e.g., Saturn) could influence psychedelic experiences, which Roberts acknowledges but remains uncertain about. Overall, the dialogue highlights both physiological and potentially metaphysical variables that modulate psychedelic effects.

Do you have a perspective on, you know, why do hallucinogens work for some people in a certain way, but not for others? Do you think it's all chemical? Is there something deeper?
Well, it's bound to be a combination of things. Personality, I mean, how the person is feeling at that particular moment. If the person is biologically helpful. I think it's probably these work much better on people who are in their 20s, 30s, and 40s than people like myself who are in our 70s and 80s. And our kidneys and our livers just aren't working that well.
It's another reason to use acid instead of mushrooms because it's a lot easier on the liver.
Well, that's a good rationalization. Thank you.
Just saying.
Yeah, right. So I'm sort of out of the loop now in my 80s, but. But anyway, there are all these. And people were discovering new variables. Like Stan Groff talks about the. The positions of this, the. The planets. Now, that's stretching things for me. And yet this is a guy whose mind I very much admire and his ideas I have learned a lot from. So I'm undecided on what to do with that idea. I mean, the Saturn going to enter, interfere with how I'm doing. Psychedelics or breathing techniques, I don't know.