Harnessing Quantum Energy: Unlocking the Power of Biofields and Consciousness | 1202 | Dave Asprey

So is this alien technology or is this ancient technology? It is certainly ancient. At the same time, it's modern. The quantum field has always been there. It's nothing that we invented. And also people hear me talk about source energy, but we didn't create source energy, right? None of us did. It's bs of course, if anyone thinks, oh, they did that. No, the breakthrough is really that we are able to access this quantum energy in a fashion never done before. We figured out a way how to harness and concentrate it so that now, in this reality, you can tap into them.

You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. It's called the Human Upgrade because when I started the biohacking movement with that first blog post in 2011 and soon after with the biohacking conference and all this content and teachings, anything that improves human performance or abilities is on the table. And that's why you see me with neuroscience. You see me in Silicon Valley using AI to figure out more about what's going on in there and talking with longevity experts and becoming one. And you also see me doing shamanic training, going to remote parts of Nepal and Tibet and the Andes to study with ancient lineages. More than one. It's. Well, I don't care if it's supposed to work. Either it does or it doesn't. A lot of the stuff I learned about over exercising and under eating, that stuff didn't work, even though it was supposed to. So I've just learned curiosity. And I've also come across my favorite kind of skeptic. In fact, I related some my. My late grandparents, who my Grandmother was a PhD nuclear engineer, grandfather a physical chemist who wrote for Encyclopedia Britannica, super nerds. And they would ascribe to this belief that can't be, therefore it isn't. So if you have an unshakable belief that your story of how reality works is complete and the only story out there, I would just like to remind you that the standard model that we use in physics, it's a rough approximation of reality, but it doesn't work when you get into the fine parts of things. So we don't really know how everything works. And maybe sometimes some people know some parts of the puzzle and other people know other parts of the puzzle. The old story about three blind sages meeting an elephant and feeling different parts of it and describing entirely different animals, we're kind of like that with reality. Because that sad little hardware platform you sit in called your body, it's. It cannot comprehend all of reality. Your Brain's not that big and not that fast, even though it's really big and really fast. So your body throws away most of reality before you even get to perceive it, because it would just overwhelm you. Imagine if you had to see every spectrum of light all at the same time, and you had to consciously think about every sphincter in your body and control it all. You would never get anything done. So it's an elegant system, but it's flawed. And when we get into the advanced parts of the world around subatomic physics, quantum particles, neutrino like particles, you realize there's a lot going on. So if you feel triggered when someone says meditation works, or when someone says you can have an effect on someone else, and you say that can't work because there's no mechanism of action. I have an easy, easy fix for you. If you need a mechanism of action. Here it is. Leprechauns. Now what the hell am I talking about? Here's the deal. Every mechanism of action that we believe, including the ones I believe, they are made up stories that help us better work with reality. And sometimes we don't yet know why something works, but we have evidence that it works. And real science never says, that can't be, therefore it isn't. It says, did that really happen? Can I make it happen again? If so, there's a new avenue for exploration. So I would invite you to listen to this episode in the spirit of curiosity rather than the spirit of skepticism. And I'll tell you, when I first learned about this stuff, I was highly, highly, highly skeptical. And I'm not anymore because I've seen direct evidence in some, like more than 36 clinical trials, including double blind, placebo controlled stuff like that. The technology that we're going to talk about on the show today is called quantum technology or quantum energy. Quantum is real. You get a Ph.D. in quantum biology. Ph.D. in quantum physics. It's also misused in marketing all over the place. Our guest is Philip Samor von Holtzendorf Failing. He's a founder and CEO of Quantum Upgrade and Leela Quantum Tech. He's an entrepreneur, a conscious entrepreneur. He's an energy healer and a coach. And he spent 20 years, like me, doing training in shamanic and other energy practices. I have spent quality time with him in person and as a fellow, we'll say person with the ability to work with certain energies. He knows what he's doing. And that's something that I think is important when you're dealing with any kind of newer, emerging Thing like Leela Quantum is. Who are the people behind it and are they real? And I'll say he's not an Internet marketing crypto bro in. In the slightest. So, Philip, with that introduction, welcome to the show.

I'm glad to be here, Dave.

I talked about Quantum Upgrade and Leela Quantum Tech. Longtime listeners have seen me wearing one of your pendants. They might know that I travel with the Leela Quantum block. And they might know that I was pretty skeptical because, oh, maybe five years ago in the mail arrives this little metal box thing, and it has no battery. Like, oh, God, yet another one of these things. And if. If you guys were to live my life, every day something arrives and someone's like, I just hope Davel see this. And then he'll just, you know, talk about it forever. And I'm sorry, 90% of the time, guys, it either doesn't work or has bad stuff in it. Like, so many things. I sometimes receive food products. I can't even give them to my friends because I don't want my friends to eat them. So for me to talk about something on the show is a very, very high bar, and there's a lot of cool stuff out there, and the speed is accelerating. So having received this thing and not done anything with it for a few months, I talked to Philip and said, all right, I'm going to see if this thing's real. So I put flowers on it, mostly to raise them for a video shoot. Just cut flowers. I had two sets of tulips. One is sitting on the counter. The other one is sitting right on top of my quantum block. The flowers on the quantum block live three times longer without wilting. It was crazy. Like, is this nuts? And I've done it multiple times since. And the reality is it's doing something and I don't know what it is. And that's one of the most direct things that. That shows me that it's working. In addition to all of the clinical studies that he published, I got to ask you, why do flowers last longer on a Leela quantum block than not on it? What is going on in there? It's driving me crazy. I don't think it's leprechauns, but I'm open.

It's basically working on two levels because the field that it creates does two things. It harmonizes the destructive waveform patterns that we have In a space, for example, 5G, 4G, Wi Fi, etc, which act destructive or harmful to a physiological organism. We know that about us, right? But it's Also true for plants and for animals. The matter of fact, dogs and cats, I think are very much impacted by that, but so are plants. And if you take that away, that issue, you can thrive more. The other thing is that any physiological organism gets an, you can call it an energy boost, basically which you know, we've shown in, in humans you can, you can see that in an increase in ATP productions or that the mitochondria work and recover faster, things like that. But in plants, you know, I don't know the exact mechanism. I'm, I'm really not too much into plants, but they're a physiological organism and they get a power boost as well. So on these two levels it totally makes sense that that happens. And we've seen even more stuff than that in regards to plants. So we've seen. People may have seen me actually with zucchinis that I've grown in our quantum greenhouse. Those things were so big, it's literally unbelievable. We posted them on Telegram and on Instagram at some point and it's huge. Then we had the base institute in Austria that was not a formal study, but they had flowers that actually started to grow roots again. It's. And they said these were like dead flowers that shouldn't have happened. And how is this possible? So, yeah, there's a lot there in regards to plants, it does make sense once you understand the mechanism, but it's. Each time again, it's mind boggling.

I love it when people who come out of tech or come out of a business career and you were a fast paced business consultant kind of guy, just one day go, oh wow, it's totally different. You're saying we're not sure what's going with those plants or even what's going on with blood flow in humans. But if you're not sure of the effects. How is it that you can make a device if you don't know how it works? And did you like find some sort of New Mexico alien remnants here? Like, what's the genesis of all this Lela tech? I believe it works. I've seen it work. Like, how the heck do you make something if you don't know how it works?

Well, I never said that we don't know how it works. We very much know exactly how it works actually. And we can see and certainly detect, even with studies and experiments, what it does to any physiological organism, which is what I just explained. So we know full well what it does. It basically is literally these two things that you need to think about. And we're excluding frequencies right now. Right? Because if we add specific frequencies, we can promote additional changes or adjustments, right? Or balancing or something. But it's really two things. First of all, it goes to the physiological organism and strengthens it. It kickstarts, you know, self healing powers, you could say, you know, ATP production, etc. So it really works on your own organism, but then it also takes care of the around you, where it takes care of these destructive waveform patterns. And on those two levels it works. And those are the two levels that are just so important to take care of. I always say, you know, we all have a biofield and, and we go brush our teeth in the morning and at night, hopefully and then, you know, we take a shower every day, but we don't take care of our biofuel. So. But that is literally the basis of our existence and shouldn't that be the first thing that we should take care of?

It's funny because it's entirely possible to feel your biofield and to know its state. And you can do that with advanced meditation training, with some kinds of breath work. And if you have a practice over time, in my case it's, it's primarily 40 years of Zen and some psychedelic work, which is why I brought ketamine into 40 years of Zen. But you actually walk around realizing you can feel this sense of interoception, you know, what's going on in my body. You can feel your guts, you can feel gurgles inside yourself and how your joints feel and you can feel how your body moves in space and you can feel this other thing if you're trained to feel it and you can actually manipulate it in a way that can be measurable and can be felt by others. It's part of just evolving your energetics and your awareness. And that's real. It's as real as I've seen anything. So if you've learned to sense this, then of course it makes sense that you should, you know, brush your teeth and probably brush your energy fields or do the equivalent of that because it's a matter of, we'll call it hygiene. But if you've never seen your teeth and you've never seen a toothbrush, you might not know that you have a piece of spinach stuck in them. Same way with your energy field, you might not know that you have one. And someone who's learned how to sense other people's might walk up to you as an energy healer and say like you got some work to do and you're going to say, come on I can't feel this. You're nuts. And it's our instinctive response to say someone is nuts because their reality and mine don't. Don't align at the same place. And that's just a defense mechanism. You say, oh, interesting. So we see things differently. And maybe you're wrong. Maybe we just see things differently. I had an experience like this years ago, and I'm going to share this mostly for listeners. Philip. Years and years ago, I was going on a walk under a full moon in the Grand Canyon with someone really close to me. And she looked at me and she described just, just under the phone, she said, oh, I. I see your energy field, and you have this weird thing stuck in it. She described where it. Where it was used very specific words about what it looked like. And I thought she said, I can't make a budge, but it's weird. There's something there. Okay, I don't see or feel any of this stuff. At the time, I was still learning a lot of things. And, oh, a few years later, the shaman who I saw, who led me on the cave fast, that I wrote Fastest Way about, sitting in her kitchen, she looked at me, tilted her head sideways and said, oh. And she described exactly the same thing with the same words. I don't think that was placebo, because frankly, I'd kind of forgotten about the first thing. Like, what is going on here? Same words, I can't make a budge. And she said, but I know someone who can. And she referred me to a really powerful shaman. And that's a whole long story we're not going to get into. But he had an explanation for what it was and why it was. But the fact that two different people who don't know each other and have never met several years apart, both saw the same thing in my energy field. Hmm, that can't be. Therefore it isn't, or there's more going on than I maybe thought was true at the time. So I've come to the conclusion that we actually live in a. Probably quantum fields and maybe information fields as the lowest level of reality that probably exists. So given that anytime we can tap into working at a lower level, you have much more leverage at the higher levels. It's kind of like fixing your mitochondria is a lot easier than trying to address Alzheimer's disease, because Alzheimer's disease gets better when you fix mitochondria, and so does everything else. So we just want to go deeper and deeper into reality. And I think you've tapped into something here. And for those who just say you can't, you know, you can't know, well maybe you can know because those two people did. I am a huge fan of fat. Not because I used to be fat, but because when you eat the right kinds of fat it can have magical effects on your body. I made MCT oil into a billion dollar industry and now there's a new fat called C15. C15 has 36 cellular benefits, three times more than omega 3s. In fact in studies, C15 provides more longevity benefits than famous pharmaceuticals. For longevity like rapamycin and metformin, fatty 15 makes a science backed pure C15 supplement that reverses aging at the cellular level. It strengthens your cell membranes and it increases mitochondrial function. Those are things you have to do if you want to live way longer to than you're supposed to. Fed 15 even activates receptors that regulate metabolism, immunity, mood, appetite and sleep. It's been a part of my longevity routine for three years and I take it every single day because research supports it and I'm willing to do everything that's going to make me age less quickly than most people. Learn more@fattty15.com Save an extra $15 when you subscribe with code DAVE15. So are you the guy who figured out how to do this? You working with other people? Kind of walk me through how Quantum Upgrade and Leela Quantum how you know it works.

So it's 100% indeed my vision that it was to figure out exactly what we wanted to do. And I couldn't have done it alone though. So I assembled a team for that which was relatively easy for me to do because I had not knowing that I would build this at some point already made all the connections necessary for that in the two decades before that. And among those people certainly are some scientists that help us to validate stuff and provide advice. But also people with X Men type abilities and capabilities. And with that, you know, I don't mean this guy that can spit fire or jump 100ft high or something like that, you know.

You don't know that guy.

I actually don't. Yeah, so that's something you need to indeed watch a movie for. But it's, it's, it's the people that can, that have brain connections that others don't have and, and that can see frequencies and energies on such a granular level that it's just the easiest thing for them to, to see any type of vibration or look at a body of, of someone and, and say what they just ate or where they have an issue in the neck or how they could fix certain things or even deeper stuff and, and see things in your energy field that these two people saw, you know, out of your story, for example, but in a, in a very granular fashion, which then cuts down the time to release a new product. Right? Because you can, you can be really, really fast in developing. You don't have many, many years of trial and error and all of that. You have actually an instant product. You can test it very quickly with these abilities because you can see before and after effects super quickly. And then you can just say, okay, well then now let's just get this scientifically tested and validated. So you, you jumped ahead very, very quickly. And so I must say, because you also asked me that. So is this alien technology or is this ancient technology? It is certainly ancient. At the same time, it's modern, it's ancient in a way because the, the quantum field has always been there. It's nothing that we invented. And also people hear me talk about source energy because there's literally that it's access to source energy. But we didn't create source energy, right? No one, none of us did. It's BS of course, if anyone thinks, oh, they did that. No, the breakthrough is really that we are able to access this quantum energy in a fashion never done before. We figured out a way on how to harness and concentrate it so that now in this reality you can tap into that. That's basically the breakthrough. And with that, there's so many cool things possible now and actually in the future. And so what, what these people saw in your energy field, for example, capabilities like that. We all have these capabilities. It's just those are muscles that we haven't used. We're not used to even think of ourselves as biofields. We think of ourselves as solids. You know, we are this body, right, where that's all we know and grow up with. But there's so much more to us. And I think we're really moving into a time and that's not some talk. This is really happening. That in the next five, 10 years, we speak five years from now, we don't have to explain to anyone anymore, you know, that this is real, or show them the studies. Maybe it's interesting to see the studies, but it'll be totally clear to everyone why this works and why there's actually no question that this does all these things. And we will be way more focused also to include bioenergy, hacking into biohacking. And you're already doing that, actually, which I think is so cool because you're, you're having this holistic perspective. I think most people out there are not there yet. They're getting there because they, they need to remember that we need to also take care of our biofield. And as they do that, they realize, wow, this is actually pretty cool, you know, because it completes my efforts of living longer, being healthier, being more active. And yeah, we can get into that, of course. And I have a personal story also to share at some point about that because I like to walk the talk and I think I've done that in the last several months in regards to that.

I think I'd love to hear that story. And, and for, for listeners, there's a pendant, there's quantum blocks, and then there's a remote service that changes the energetics in your information field. Now, I know that it would be painfully easy for anyone on the planet to just fire up a website and say, I'm going to have remote blessings.com and it could be a total scammer. And I'm super aware of that. And there's so much of that going on. I've also seen people say that they have abilities when they don't and charge a lot of money for it. And I've also seen people with profound abilities who are very humble and never charge for them at all. And coveting those kinds of abilities generally keeps you from getting them. They just happen as you work on your, on your consciousness, at least according to all the yogic writings. So bottom line is we're all a little bit different and some of us can do that sort of stuff, but the people who are very knowledgeable have the ability to influence people remotely. So there's no reason that inappropriate type of quantum technology couldn't do that. So you've got studies that support it. And so I use both the quantum upgrade. I use it on my companies and on my home in person. And then I travel around with a wheel of quantum block because I think the abundant evidence and just how I feel I can see a difference. It doesn't mean anyone has to do that to be a good person or to biohack. They're just added tools. So tell me about your story. How did this affect you?

So obviously I have so many personal stories that I could share, but I want to share the most recent story, and that's in regards to tennis, by the way. I want to break this here, and you may have already talked about that, but whoever does racket sports lives longer. Everyone that does racket Sports lives longer. I think with tennis, it's about eight years on average, which is just absolutely phenomenal because it's such a cool sport now. I love this sport. I played it a lot until I was 18. I played tournaments. I wasn't awesome, though. I was really good. And one of my dreams was to be a tennis pro. Well, my parents didn't like it. Then I got injured when I was 18. Then I stopped playing for four months, and it turned out to be a break of 12 to 14 years where I did not play at all because I just didn't feel like it. I got back into it in 2004, and in between, stopped now. Then I said, well, maybe every five years I play the nationals just for fun. So I turned 50 this year, and in the end of last year, I said, this year I'm going to play the nationals. And then I was like, okay, so if I play the nationals, maybe I have fun doing this to just see how good can I get in a relatively fast time frame. And my first tournament, I played in March, and now I've played several tournaments this year, and I'm already number three in the US in the age group 50 and above.

Wow. Number three.

Yep. Number three in the US and I don't want to stop there, frankly, now. I mean, in between, I said, okay, if I can get top 10 this year, this would be amazing. Right? And I certainly do all this biohacking stuff, but of course. And there are certain things, you know, that work really well, of course. And you talk about these things all the time, but of course, I do the quantum stuff, and I do it extensively. And there would not be a single tennis match where I don't play with charged clothing, for example, or charged shoes.

Do you charge your racket?

Yeah, the racket. The racket is charged.

Do you charge your balls?

I don't charge the balls. I've actually never done that. Not those balls, at least. But I do wear the quantum underwear, actually, so you. Technically, that maybe qualifies. And. And then I. I have, you know, we're talking about the contact, but still I have the quantum upgrade running on booster and Olympic performance, which special frequency for athletes during performance or practice. And it. It gives me an additional edge. Right? There's. There's literally no one that can wear me down if it gets into the third set. And it's close, you know, usually they don't last, you know, And. And it's so. It. It's. It's very obvious to me, and I play better than I've, I ever have literally. And I can even in practice everything, you know, you learn new things and of course I see certain shortfalls also, right Shortcomings where I'm like, okay, I need to work on the back and I need to work on this. But the translation from okay, I can't do this 100% like I wanted to. But to learn to get there. The process is so quick. It's just so quick. It's even surprising myself how quick it is. And I can improve those things very fast. Well, I, you know, I have further goals for this year. So I keep playing and it's just something, you know, if you really want something, you dedicate some time to it, you have a goal and you do all the great things for your body physically, but take care of your energy as well. Amazing, amazing things are possible and yeah, so that's what I wanted to share.

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Yeah, well, maybe I should go for the 35s then.

I dare you.

But I first want to play the world championships in the 50s next year.

Okay, it's a deal. And after that, you're like, yeah, it is just a number. I'm gonna beat the young ones. I think you've got it. More quantum energy. That's so cool. All right, so we've talked a little bit about quantum energy. I'm trying to figure out how to explain the perception of it or what it is. And you go to a philosophy class at the high end PhD level or a PhD level physics class. They sound an awful lot together. But I kind of imagine this just like kind of a quantum realm of fields, and there's fields in it that are alive and interact with each other. And there's actually math that explains how quantum fields interact now pretty accurately. But are you a quantum field? Am I in quantum field? How does that work?

Yes, we are. And even our cells are. That's very interesting. So each cell has a quantum field. That's how the cells communicate at all times, constantly and instantly. And that's also, you know, people have asked us, so couldn't you make a blog where I can just lay in the blog? It's just like a med bed, basically. I say, yeah, we could do that, but you can just put your feet in the blog and then it will support all of your cells. Because if you have enough cells in this field, suddenly it all gets translated and transported to the other cells as well. And so those are all small quantum fields, basically. And we make up a large quantum field. You know, that's pretty much how it works.

I like that description. I truly believe that at the fundamental.

Level.

My overall consciousness is one quantum field. And then every cell has its own field. And every subcellular component, like a mitochondria, has its own field as well. And there's a whole realm of subcellular psychobiology that's exploring this. So what we perceive is a lot of our consciousness is actually distributed consciousness. A lot of a bunch of little ones. And you can say, well, those are cells. You can say, well, those are quantum fields. And if cells that we perceive are built on top of quantum fields, the same thing. So there's a whole mechanism and A whole kind of universe available for playing around with biohacking and bioenergetics. Which is why a conversation about Leela Quantum to me is fascinating. And the fact that the flowers don't age the way they're supposed to on it to me is one of those very easy to perceive things that's testable. And no, I didn't double blind placebo control it. So it could be that using the powers of my mind without, without believing it was going to be true, that magically I made one set of flowers last three times longer than the other set. But if I could do that out of my mind, all the skeptics like, well, that's not possible either. Therefore the flowers didn't last longer. Like, well, actually they did. So I need an explanation here. I think it was the quantum block because I wasn't trying to make them and I didn't believe they would live longer. I didn't believe anything about them because I wasn't testing it. So there you go. There's, there's a way of looking at reality that's just very, very different. So back to quantum energy. You've got Leela Quantum, which is the physical products, and you've got Quantum Upgrade, which is the subscription service that I use. How does the subscription service know where on the planet I am? And don't different places on the planet have different energies? Like, how does that work?

That's absolutely correct. So any location pretty much has a different energy signature and energy field like every, every human being does. It's, we're, we're very different. Even though at core we were connected to the same and part of the same, we still have all a different biofield. So how does the field know that within a pure quantum field, or in this case call it a multidimensional quantum energy, space, distance and time don't matter. And what you need is a specific link to a location. Could be an address, right? Or to you, that would need to be something like a picture. It can also be a data set that is your name, your birth date, where you were born, maybe the country you live in. Those are the data points that we use to also make sure that a John Smith is very unique and not that you have like 30 John Smith and then they all get the energy, for example, and with that direct link to you as the source, you can just be placed in the field. That's the classic quantum entanglement, basically. And then the energy is not sent to you like over, I don't know, like, like electricity would be sent into a home. It literally, because there's a entanglement function. You're in the field. You are in the field and it doesn't matter then if you travel to Australia or to Europe and then back to the US you're just always in the field as long as you want to be. Because you can manage it on, on your end. Right. You could pause it at any time. You can increase it. That's, that's pretty much how it works. It's, it's actually, it couldn't be any other way. It's just so new, you know, it's, it's like the Internet in the early beginnings. No one got it. Like why would we need it and how does it do that? And, and, and what is it even. Right. And the very probably, you know, when the first time I read about the Internet, no clue what that stuff is. And now it's, I mean, no one asks the question anymore. Right. And, and, and this is the same thing. It's just new to us. That's why we, yeah. Don't, don't fully understand it at first.

I like that explanation as much as, as any of them. You're going to hear. You know, it's very hard to put words, words to this. The, the teachers I've worked with in my own experience traveling around, I just got back from remote parts of Western Turkey, like the, the oldest ruins on the planet Gobleki Tepe, which Graham Hancock talked about on the show years ago, about three times older than Stonehenge and possibly way older than that. So I got to go in and see them with my own eyes. I brought my son. It was super cool, but it feels different in Turkey. It feels different in New Mexico. It feels different in the Andes or Himalayas. And it's not just because it's high altitude. How important is geomagnetics and whatever the energetics of different places on Earth? How important is that for the function of Leela? Quantum or quantum upgrade? Like in an energy portal in Sedona, Do I need more or less quantum upgrade? Like what are the interactions?

It's not important at all, frankly. You know, one place could have amazing energy, one place could have bad energy. And you could argue that in a place where you have already an amazing high consciousness level and amazing energy, you wouldn't need such a additional support. Right. If you are in a, in an environment where it's very, very bad energy. You know, that's, I don't know when, when you went to Gaza, without going into any details of what's going on there. Most likely you're going to find, aside from everything that's going on in the outer world, that there's really bad negative energy. Right. And in such a situation it would be extremely helpful if not only you were in the quantum upgrade or energetically in a, in a good state, but that you would take care of the environment as well. Right. Because that is just always around you and it certainly reflects to you while you're walking through such a space. So in that case it's even more important to lift it up. But you can lift up any space no matter if it has good or bad energy. And that's one of the things that the blocks would do or the quantum upgrade that it resets, it resets the energy level of what has been going on there. And then you can go from there, depending on how you set it. Now, obviously Gaza or some other place, we, and we've been asked this before, right? Yeah. Couldn't you just, just put the whole world in this thing? Right. Wouldn't this then be a better place? Well, maybe it would be a better place, but that's, that's crossing boundaries and that's going also into the realm of manipulate, manipulation, which we can't do. So it's free will out there and people can choose to tap into this and use it and they can use it for their own location that they own or for their business that they own, but they cannot use it for a business they do not own. Like we allow no one to put Coca Cola in there. We would allow Coca Cola. If there's the CEO of Coca Cola or the, I don't know, the board, they make a decision and they put themselves in, certainly they can do that, but no one else is allowed to do that for them because we, we don't want to cross any boundaries.

There's a whole bunch of, of integrity rules that good energy workers follow. And it sounds like you're following the same ones as well. Yeah. And it's, it would probably be tempting to, you know, increase the energy of Monsanto or something, but let's not do that.

I give you a good example because I used to work for T Mobile. Right. You know, I ran 14 countries in Europe. I worked mobile, US and we have quite some capabilities to very, very quickly help a company like that or a company like Tesla to get rid of the EMF issues that they have very, very quickly in a very easy and very, very cost effective way. Right. But it's, it's not upon us to just do that they would have to make that decision. And we have no Russia in regards to that. Because that time will come. I'm very, very certain that time will come. That at some point they'll be like, okay, there's enough evidence out there. The reason why they're not talking about EMFs in that industry, the reason is because they fear lawsuits of, of everything that has happened in the past. But the time will come where they will say, okay, there's enough evidence now. The evidence wasn't there, so we're not responsible for what happened in the past. But now we acknowledge there's a problem. So now we also want to address it. When that moment comes, we're ready to go.

I like it. Bottom line is you don't have the right to heal someone who doesn't want to be healed. And that's just how the world works, at least if you're a healer. So I'm with you there. Let's talk about some of the evidence behind what you've made with with Lila Quantum. We know that when people are exposed to EMFs from mobile devices, their blood gets less fluid. So you get stickiness of blood and you can see it on a microscope. Like this is a known effect, and it's probably not caused by heating, it's caused by something else. The frequencies in the phone. What have you seen when people are exposed to Lila Quantum? Like, how do you have to be exposed to it? How long do you have to be exposed to it? And what changes do you see in blood flow?

So if we talk about the physical products, the Lila blocks, for example, then there have been multiple tests in regards to them to either put your hands in there, those were all first tests, always. And you, you put your hands in there, and that's frankly where you get the strongest exposure. And you see the fastest results, basically, and they're also most significant. But then we also did all those studies with just the block being in the room or being in the room next to it, so basically further away. And those were done initially not placebo controlled, but then we moved into completely placebo controlled studies, randomized and blinded, to make sure that all of those placebo effects are completely ruled out. And so you see those effects whether the block is in the room right next to you or if you put your hands in there. It's just the acceleration of the optimization of the blood, for example, is faster when you put your hands inside. That's just basically the only difference. And you get maybe a little bit greater effect through that, but that the Effect is, is there regardless. And it has been shown that it neutralizes any and all visible negative effects of EMF in the blood very clearly in regards to red blood cells. Whereas actually after already 10 minutes, the, the state of the blood was already better than the first test, which happened in a WI fi free environment. And the third test was with WI fi still on. Right? And so, so that's how significant the changes were. The second, the changes were not marginal. Where you see a 0.01% change in something and then you need 2 million test persons in order to then be able to say we had a 0.1% change. Right? No, the, the changes are so crazy significant that you actually need not so many test persons in order to say this is statistically significant. Right? That's how statistics work. And it's, it's fascinating because it activates your, your white blood cells. It neutralizes and reverses stage one and stage two of blood clotting, which is significant in, in, in today's world, frankly, it even decreases parasitic load in the blood. I mean, the most significant change we saw was 80% reduction in parasitic load in the blood after I think in that case that was 15 minutes. Now that's not an average and we're still working on getting an average, but that's what the possibility is. Even that's the base best case scenario. It shows you what's possible. And then of course, we, we, we've seen ATP production increase 20 to 29% in ATP production. We've seen the wound healing, right? Five studies were done and that this was not some random guy on the street that did these studies. That's Dr. Robert Schiff, who's an expert in this field. That's all he does in his lab, right, is testing these things, looking at human cell cultures, human dermat of fibroblasts, ATP production, wound healing of these things. And he did five of these wound healing studies and in all of them he showed it was a 50 to 100% acceleration in wound healing, or you know, healing is a word we are not supposed to use to call it cell recovery. Right? And isn't that fascinating just by the exposure and it was randomized and double blind. And I mean, this guy didn't believe our technology could work, right, because he comes from the mainstream and he has this skepticism. But I found actually in those, and that's not the first time we worked with a scientist that is totally skeptical and says, well, yeah, I can do all these studies, but I don't think you're Going to see any positive results because I just can't imagine how that would work. Those are the best people to work with because they actually kind of don't want it to work. Right. And if they then see it works, there's a complete shift. He's now telling his students about this, right? So it's a regular thing that he talks about and says, guys, I mean, I just learned this myself. There are things possible that I did not know a month ago. And so it's quite significant because we also didn't look at like one cell against another cell. It was always millions of cells in the control group and millions of cells in the, in the treated group. And again, it was done five times. Each of the studies was statistically significant. So that's, that's remarkable. Now we're going further, right? And we've. So what we try to do is not to just to go in one field. We could have just stayed with the blood and just keep analyzing the blood. But there's more to see, right? We've seen attic score reduction by 20 basis points in autistic kits. There was a clinical trial with infinity blocks and with these capsules that ran over six months with 42 autistic kits run by a clinic in India that is specialized on autistic kits. And there were a couple kits off the spectrum after these six month. And on average it was a 20 basis points reduction, which that is huge. It's absolutely huge. Language and speaking skills, improved, attention span, focus, all of those things improved. It was also interesting. Even emotions, you know, we saw in the first two weeks, now that is less tangible, but parents reported that was kind of like a side story. Aside from the addict score, they surveyed the parents, the first two, three weeks, the emotions went up significantly in these kids. And we could already tell, well, stuff comes up, right? Stuff comes up and then it all balance out and they all got so much better and they got pulled into the here now. So that's a completely different test than blood ATP and cell wound healing, right? It works on a different level now. We've, we've moved into, we did HIV testing of course, you know, that was like one of the early things we did. Now we moved into brainwave analysis as well. And there's some exciting studies happening right now. And the first results were just texted to me a couple of weeks ago. And they showed they looked at the travel block before and after with state of the art brainwave technology. And it was an increase in theta production and significant optimization in brain coherence. Just by five minutes of, in this case, holding your hand in the travel block.

Wow.

It's quite remarkable.

It is remarkable. Let me dig deep on that. For people who are listening when we're looking at advanced meditators, and this is stuff I've been doing for 11 years, at 40 years of Zen and for 10 years of just doing home neurofeedback and having my own system before that. You want different brain states, and like theta is kind of the dreaming, collective consciousness, unconscious creativity state. And you want high power, which is like the size of a wave. And then you want the waves to happen all at the same time across the brain. So advanced meditators, with 20 or 40 or more years of practice, if they've been practicing within a certain type of brainwave, they can usually have all the brain waves turn on at all the places in the brain at the same time, and you get really powerful results. But when you have an external technology that makes it easier to do that, and coherence is one way of measuring that, it's mathematically less complex than the one that we use today.