How I Plan To Live To 180+ (Follow These Steps To LIVE LONGER) | Dave Asprey

Your goal is to live to 180.

And at least 180. I don't want to put a cap on it. I mean, don't shortchange me, Drew.

Right. And last time you said, I want to live to 180 or die trying, which I always thought was funny. Okay, real question. How did you come up with that number? Like, realistically, like, you could. You could have said 200, 190. Could say 170. But first of all, you're not joking.

Not in the slightest.

How did you come up with that exact number? Did you do any kind of formulation?

I did. What I did is I took PI and I divided by Avogadro's number. Okay. No, I did.

The videographer shout out to Louis for a second. He was listening in. He was like, oh, my gosh. This is like the secret.

I totally suck you in. And then I did the pyramid frequencies. No, the way it works is really straightforward. We know we can do 120 because we've seen it done.

Okay?

Now, I know because I've run an anti aging Nonprofit group for 20 years, because I've learned from people three times my age who helped me get rid of the diseases of aging that I had in my 20s. I know that the research is happening. People like Dr. David Sinclair is right now saying after 30 years of working in a laboratory, we actually understand how to turn back the biological clock in cells in a way that has never been done before. So if we can't do 50% better than the current best in the next 134 years of my life, it's because an asteroid hit the planet. Seriously, Drew, just from how glowy your skin is, you have to be a little bit younger than me. How old are you?

I'm 37.

37. All right. I'm 46. So do you remember Micro Fish?

Micro Fish? I don't.

Okay, so you're right at the cusp. So people as old as me. I'm not that old. Right. I like to tell myself not don't ask my kids. When I would do research, I would go to the library. This is even at the beginning of when I went to University in 1990. And you want to find a scientific reference, you'd find it in the card catalog. Then you go to the microfiche catalog, which is tiny little envelopes of little transparent pieces of plastic where we would photocopy the stuff down onto these tiny little postage stamp side things, and you put them inside a little machine that would shine a light through it. Through a magnifying glass so you could read it.

Okay, I didn't know it was called that, but we used to look up, like, old newspapers and stuff.

Totally. This is where scientific research happens. So if you wanted to look up stuff about mitochondria, you would spend days of your life pulling little pieces of plastic out. And right now, you and me and everyone listening to this show can go online for free and look at the sum of human knowledge about medical research. Given that, how can we not do 50% better? Given the billions and billions of dollars that are going into this, given the past 5,000 years of research on anti aging, because that's what Taoism is. That's what traditional Chinese medicine is. That's what Ayurveda is. We've been working on this problem for a long time, and we finally have the tools to do it. If we can't do at least 50%, then I'm stupid.

I love it. That's a real answer. All right, we're going to jump around a little bit. All right, so I want to jump ahead, and your book has a lot of great themes on it. I want to start off with something that a lot of people think about. Not just men, women too. You talk about in your book, which is balding.

Balding is a problem.

You wrote in the book that out of all the things related to like, hair and even like, sometimes like, skin, other things, you didn't say fear. But your biggest concern with aging would be with hair would be balding.

For me, I look at both of my grandfathers completely bald. All the men on both sides of the family pretty much completely bald by the time they're 30. So I have just the crappy hair genes, and I'm doing all right. I have a little bit more forehead than I used to. But I looked in detail at what do we know about this? Not the why of sales, not the marketing stuff, but actually what causes baldness. Do you know?

Well, I read your book, so it's.

A little bit cheating.

It's a little bit cheating. But break it down for our audience.

It's not one thing. It's multiple things. Just like aging. In Superhuman, I talk about the seven pillars of aging. These are the seven things that make you old. And if you say, oh, I just fixed three of the seven, well, you'll probably do better than you would have before. But that's like saying, you know, I changed three of the tires on my car. Maybe you wanted to change all four when they were bald, because otherwise you're still gonna have some problems, but it's better than it was before. So when it comes to your hair mitochondrial insufficiency, in other words, the hair follicles can't make energy well from food. That is a major thing. So bioenergetics affects your hair hormone buildup. Something called dht. It turns out it's important for hair growth to have some, but if you have too much of it, it can cause hair loss. And this is something that we've all heard about. Oh, it's DHD causes hair loss. No, it's just one of those Rogaine.

And a lot of other things are out there just focused on that aspect.

You like Joe Rogaine, the podcast?

Yeah, Joe Rogaine.

No, Rogaine or finasteride is the generic term for it. And that stuff is interesting because in some small percentage of people, it actually shuts down all hormone production. It's essentially like being castrated. So there's more of a downside to that than you might think. And so I'm a little hesitant to take that stuff. It was actually originally meant to be a heart disease medication and they found that people were growing hair on their hands in places they normally wouldn't from it. So it became a baldness medication. Not saying you shouldn't do it, just saying it's not without risk. But of the three things that are going to affect your hair, that's one of them. And another big one is heavy metals. And it turns out as we age, like all animals, we bioaccumulate toxic metals and toxic metals inhibit our cells ability to do what they're supposed to do. So the odds are pretty high that if you're dealing with balding, that you probably have some of all three of these going on and you can improve any of the three and your hair can improve, or you can improve all three and you're likely to get much better results. There's other stuff in the book I talk about, like too much sun bad. No sun at all for hair growth is bad. So you need a little bit of that. You can use light therapy to stimulate hair growth. There's topical things you can do that increase mitochondrial function. And this is going to sound crazy given that Bulletproof is the company that put collagen on the map, but eating collagen makes your hair grow faster, like who would have thought? But it does. It doesn't mean that you're necessarily going to rescue an old hair follicle. I even in the book talk about, hey, what happens if you inject stem cells into your hair? Should you do ozone in your hair? Should you do hyperbaric oxygen? What's likely to work? But the lens of everything in Superhuman is through return on investment. Because Drew, you and me and anyone listening could spend 24 hours a day doing the craziest anti aging things and have no time left for life, and you'd still probably die eventually anyway. So how do you pick the ones that are going to give you the results you want in the least possible amount of time, energy, and dollars? And I've gone through and I've done the really expensive crazy stuff in part to write the book and also in part because when it really works dramatically, if it costs $50,000 to do something now, well, a, because I'm writing a book about it, I probably got it for a lot less than that. And, and b, it'll cost $5,000 in 10 years. It'll cost $500 in 15 years, and it'll cost $50 in 20 years, just like cell phones did. So anti aging technologies are just coming online. And part of the reason I wrote Superhuman is our mindset of age, is you are powerful, you are wise, you move under your own power. You look pretty darn good. You have an active, fun sex life, you have a social life, and you have the energy to do all this stuff and you like it. And if that's where you're going, you change the decisions you make right now, and maybe you'll pass on the french fries because you know, there's just better stuff to do. And you don't want to take these thousands of micro hits that we take every day with small choices. You make better choices. You eat food you love that makes you feel good and makes you age less quickly. And as you do that, these amazing technologies are coming online and they're getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.

That's the possibility. That's showing what the possibility is moving forward. We can't fully talk about the possibility without addressing the, the hidden beliefs that people have about aging. In fact, you kind of started off the podcast by talking about this, like, decrepit idea that people have of aging. You were interviewing Maria Shriver, mutual friend.

I love Maria.

And you were interviewing her on your podcast, and she was saying, dave, I know you want to live to 180, and you can have that goal like, I'm, I don't want to live that long. And that kind of led to, like, a discussion and a conversation that you talk about in the book of, well, what are your beliefs about that Part of why you wrote this book is about, okay, what's possible, can we live longer? But what does also mean to live better? So where did these beliefs come from? And sometimes it's like, let's state the obvious, like, what are the beliefs that people do have about what is possible when it comes to aging?

Right now, if you believe that life is meaningless, you have no purpose in life, you should probably check out now. Like, seriously, why are you here? And if you don't know the answer to that, that's your number one thing to figure out. And when you have something that's worth living for that gets you up in the morning, every morning, then you start saying, you know what? I think I like this and I want to do it. So if you're dealing with depression or you're just searching for a reason to be here, it's okay. But you deal with that first. And when you get that solved, you realize that life is precious and that wisdom is precious too. And if you're young, one of the best things you could possibly do is find someone two or three times your age and become friends with them. And I'm fortunate that I had most of the diseases of aging before I was 30. I had prediabetes, high risk of stroke and heart attack, cognitive dysfunction, arthritis, stretch marks, all kinds of bad stuff that no one in their 20s should have. And it was a combination of the things I've written about in the book. Toxic molds, heavy metals and other just genetic things. Right. If I could hack those things, then most people listening didn't start out with chronic fatigue syndrome and all the other crap that I've reversed. But one of the reasons I was able to do this is a friend said, dave, you should go hang out with this anti aging group in the Bay Area. I'm not even 30, why? And they said, just go. These are your people. So I'm already taking smart drugs, I'm trying to fix myself. And I sit down and there's a guy who's 88 years old, his name is Mike. And we stayed out talking till 11:30 at night. And he's just really excited about, there's this new stuff, all these things we learned about coconut oil and we're going to change the world and how do we share this? Like, holy crap, this guy has more energy than me and he's three times my age. And when his wife passed away, he started dating a 36 year old who he was actually in love with. It was unusual, but he had the energy of a 35 year old because he managed his biology that way. And I saw it was possible. I learned from these people. I learned from their wisdom and their mindset. And like, if they can do it with the lives that they've led without the knowledge or the tools that you and I have available, just by virtue of our age, man, there's a lot more capacity that we have as humans, but you have to have the mindset first. That says the picture of aging that I have of being old and decrepit is wrong. I reject that outright. And what that'll do is probably best highlighted by a guy named John Medina who came on Bulletproof Radio. He's a cognitive scientist and, I believe, psychologist from uw. And he talked about a study where they took older people in their 70s, 80s, 90s, and they put them in a hotel that had been decorated like the 1950s, as in the TVs from the 50s, TV shows from the 50s, food from the 50s, all the stuff from antique shops, and they measurably got younger from spending a weekend in that environment. So the mind has so much control over our aging that that's a part of this. But your job, everyone's job here is just say, you know what? When I'm old, I'm going to be giving back. I'm going to be full of energy. I'm going to be under my own power. That is what aging always looked like. The normal way we would age in a tribe was, you were functional. You're old. Yeah, you might have a sore back or something like that, but you were a member of the tribe and you were revered and respected for your wisdom. And. And then one day you died. And it came quickly because you were healthy until you died.

You died in your sleep. You know, my dad talked to him often. He's like, I can trace back, like 13 generations in our family, and I know a lot of people can trace back even more than that. And I would ask him as a kid, like, oh, what happened to, like, this person and that person? There was this trend where it was like, yeah, you know, they were. They were cleaning and walking around and doing stuff. And then, you know, they were living their life and they were in their 80s and 90s and other stuff. And then one time, you know, great grandmother went to bed and then she didn't wake up. Yeah, she was functional. No chronic diseases that were there. And really, I guess what Maria Shriver, you know, who's awesome, was saying is that this vision that I have of what it looks like to be 80 or 90 in that moment, in that conversation is that I'm in a nursing home. I am at high risk of a hip fracture. I am at high risk of getting pneumonia or cancer or one of these other things. And I don't have mobility. And the biggest fear is people feeling like their brain is going to break.

Yeah, that's why I love this broken brain, because of all the fears. Okay, it is ignoble to say I'm wearing Depends right now, but at least you're not locked in a room the way they used to do 50 years ago. Because, oh, if you're incontinent, you're no longer able to be in society. So we've at least fixed that part. But it's another thing to say, I don't recognize my children. I put my car keys in the fridge because there's a very visceral sense of just loss, loss of you. And you can feel it going away. And I know this viscerally because in my mid-20s, I had such bad cognitive function. Things were going wrong. I went to the doctor. I'm like, I feel like I've been poisoned. I can't remember stuff in meetings at all. I have no recollection of being there, but I know I was there. And I'd go to the store and I have no idea why I went to the store. And I'd open the fridge. I don't know why I'm doing this. And I'd sit there and I would say I was going to say something. There's a word for that. And I would just struggle for the word. I'm a New York Times best selling author. I've had almost 700 episodes of bulletproof Radio. I don't forget a word. And if it happens, I can tell you exactly what I did the day before that caused a little bit of brain inflammation that caused it. And when I was in my 20s, I would lose words dozens of times a day. The same thing that happens to a lot of people in their 60s, and it is scarier than hell and it's unnecessary. And it turns out I fixed my broken brain. And yes, you reduce toxins, yes, you fix mitochondrial function and you do the other things that keep you young, young. But that fear of saying, man, I think I'm going to buy disability insurance because I don't know if I'm going to be able to take care of myself next year. It's hard to put words behind the fear that's there. And that is why people are afraid of aging, because you have that picture of I'm losing myself and it's not how it's supposed to be. And if that happens, we can reverse it. You have a whole docu series about fixing broken brains. They can be fixed. The fact that I can do what I do, given where I was, is testimony to the work you're doing.

Bill Gates, I think still the richest man in the world. I know him and Warren Buffett go back and forth.

Yeah, And Jeff Bezos, they're arm wrestling every day over there.

He has a new sort of docu series out on Netflix with the director of the Inconvenient Truth. And I watched the first episode. It talks about his philanthropic work and the legacy and how did Bill Cates become who he is? And halfway through the first episode, the director interviewed him and was asking him questions and said, what's your biggest fear? And his biggest fear was that his brain would stop breaking. And really, in a way, he was saying Alzheimer's and that that is the biggest fear that the richest man in the world has. And yet, going back to your original comment, we are now, for the first time in history, at a much more rapid level through the Internet and all that tension that's on the space, we are starting to spread the message of actually understanding what's possible in helping us avoid, prevent or reverse that.

There is so much good science about it. And what drives me nuts is that whether it comes to what we eat, what we do in a typical doctor's office, it is 20 or 30 years behind cutting edge research. And a large part of my nonprofit anti aging work has just been finding the experts and then finding the experts who are credible and are usually right. And what's frustrating for academics, they look at something and they say, you know what? I think this is probably true. And they might, even if they're adventurous, try it on themselves and get great benefits. But if they publish something that says it's true and they don't put, but more research is needed at the end, and then someone else publishes something, even something that is flawed, that says the opposite, they lose their academic stripes, they lose respect. So we have this fear mongering amongst people saying, well, we just noticed this huge thing that no one ever saw before. But before we do anything about it, more research is needed. And here's the deal, you and me and everyone listening to this, we're on the path towards dying and we can wait until more research is completed, or we can do the things that are most likely to be beneficial right now and course correct as we Go most.

Likely to be beneficial and show and are like the most straightforward to do and have demonstrated to be the lowest possibility of side effects or no side effects.

And in fact some of them the side effects are, well, you feel better like there are some with exceptionally low side effects. And you could say side effects, look, you can have a salad, you can have a piece of grass fed steak or you can have deep fried cheese sticks. What are the side effects of that and why do you think it's okay to eat the deep fried cheese sticks? It actually isn't. If you're worried about side effects, you shouldn't do those things. Yet you do every day. Yet when it comes to doing something like intermittent fasting, which is a pretty potent anti aging technology, what are the side effects? What if it's not safe? What you're doing isn't safe because it leads you to basically start to become infirm around 60 and spend the last 20 or 25 years of your life on a creeping slow decline into feeling like crap. That is what your current path is until you do something about it. The hard part for me is that When I was £300 in my 20s, I did what they said, oh yeah, I'll go on a semi vegetarian, I'll go on a low fat, low calorie diet and I'll work out an hour and a half a day, six days a week. And I did it reliably for 18 months. I did not miss a day, six days a week. And at the end of that time I'm at Carl's Jr. With my friends and they're eating double western bacon cheeseburgers. I'm having the chicken salad with no chicken and no dressing. And I looked at him like I'm fat. It's not fair. I am eating less than my thin friends and I work out more than all of them put together and they look like that and I look like this. And I just thought, clearly I'm eating too much lettuce because that's what we're taught. And the reality was there were other things wrong with my biology and eating a low fat, low calorie diet was not at all what my body needed. And I've lost £100 since then and I don't work out anywhere near as much. But that was following 30 year old advice that clearly didn't work. And it goes so far as I got a chance to ask the first guy to have a is human genome sequence cost $100 million Craig Venter. I said, Craig, you have 25 years of data on the human genome. What recommendations would you make for people based on all, you know, even if you're not sure, but just the ones that are most likely to be true. Or should we all just have pizza and beer and wait for more research? And he looks at me and he goes, let's talk about it over pizza and beer. And I'm like, this is not how it's supposed to be. So it's your job, it's my job, it's everyone's job to say, you know what? You're given the state of knowledge. Now, given how I feel, I am going to do the thing that gives me the most energy and makes me feel the best. And if I don't feel good the next day, it's absolutely my fault. It means I did something wrong, and I'm going to figure out what it is and I'm going to do something different the next day. And if you just do that, it doesn't take that much work, especially given all the knowledge that you're sharing that we're all sharing. Heck, Reed's superhuman. There's a bunch of stuff in there, but whatever it is, those are going to make it. So the choices you decide to try are much more likely to be beneficial ones. And if all of a sudden you go from, you know, I would have given myself a 6 out of 10 on how I feel every day. Now I'm at an 8 out of 10. And I spent the same amount of money and the same amount of energy. That is some of the most precious stuff you could ever do. And that's what's lacking. And because it's academic fear that drives that.

So I want to go back to the beginning. And you present an important distinction in the book, and you've been talking about it recently. I called you the godfather of biohacking. And really, what your key distinction that you start the book off is that human beings have always been biohacking. Right? You just don't think of it that way. And tell us about that. And you have this great story of. Of fire that opens up the book. I would love for you to share a version of that that you can for the podcast.

Imagine a caveman named Thog, and he's sitting in a warm cave with a fire, and he says, all right, it's winter. I'm going to go to the next cave over. And he puts on his animal skin and runs through the snow to the next cave and says, hey, I have this new fire thing and I'm using it. To keep my family warm. Like, come see it. So he brings the other caveman in and he says, oh, well, yeah, it's warm in here. But we all know fire is dangerous because we've seen forest fires. And besides, if you have fire, it might not be fair. What if we don't all have fire? And no, thanks, I'll pass. More research is needed, basically. And one of those two cavemen is our ancestor. And textiles, the ability to wear clothes, blankets. These are biohacking technologies. Biohacking as I defined it, and now it's in the English dictionary. It is the art and science of changing the environment around you and, and inside of you so they have control of your biology. You know what the cavemen wanted? They wanted to be warm. So they changed the environment around them by putting a blanket on or by lighting a fire. And we have been doing things to save effort, save energy, feel better, and live longer every single day since then. And for some reason, probably because of marketing or something, I can't even explain it. In the last 50 years or so, it seems like we lost that. And all of a sudden it's about this. Oh, what's worrying about? Look, we all want to save time. We all want more energy. Everything we've ever done as humans, all of engineering, came about from a group of people who were practicing anti aging medicine. We talk about alchemy, the alchemists, those are guys with pointy hats, you know, Merlin and wizards and Game of Thrones or something like that. Alchemy was about anti aging. It was about cracking the laws of nature so that we could understand it. And all the alchemists were pursuing immortality and Francis Bacon. Most of the names of science that are revered in the west were studying anti aging and alchemy. And there are threads of this that run through Ayurveda, that run through traditional Chinese medicine, run through South American shamanism. So we have thousands of years of anti aging research that have become built into our traditions. And. And then in the last 50 or 70 years, we decided we would just crush those and eat a bunch of garbage, processed food and tell ourselves, oh, that all this decline in aging, all this bad thing's happening, they just happen. There's nothing you can do about them. Food doesn't have an impact on you. I had doctors tell me that just eat less. That's all that matters. But the science is very clear. What you eat determines how you will die.

Powerful. And I think what was powerful for me is that I. I knew that. And I come from a tradition of like the Vedic tradition and Ayurveda. And I grew up with those sorts of things. And I think when I look back at like the last 50, 100 years, there's so many factors that all happened, a lot of them beautiful. Through the growth of technology and our ability to live the life that we have now and have lights and the Internet and cameras and other stuff. In the Industrial Revolution, it all changed so quickly that there's a dissonant distancing between doing something and noticing the difference. It's almost like our diet and lifestyle has changed so much that even if people alter something a little bit small, first of all they look around and everybody's feeling fat and sick.

Right?

Right. So you just feel normal. It's just a normal sign of aging. If everybody's in the nursing home, you forget about a time that people weren't. So it's almost like as a society we've lost our memory and we have to be retold that, hey guys, it.

Wasn'T always this way, it wasn't that way. And we also have this crazy. It's a very Western scientific notion and it's full of scientific hubris and arrogance. And it's that I'm only going to change one variable. I'm going to control for all the.

Other variables in a way. I met Craig Venter once. I don't know him well, but it's sort of like from what I've heard about the project and the continuation of that and other people that are in the traditional space of longevity, we're looking for the one thing that leads to all the answers.

It's such crap. Because I come from a background of computer hacking. I used to teach at the University of California. I ran the program for web and Internet systems engineering. So the Internet is a distributed system of millions and millions of computers that all do different things at different times, yet somehow you can influence the cells in your body are the same way. Cells have anywhere from 100 to 15,000 ancient bacteria embedded in them that run a bacteria decision making process. And there's quadrillion cells or so in your body, depending on how you want to count them. And you look at all this stuff and you go, wow, there's a lot of complexity in this system. What makes you think that one thing is, is going to change a system that complex? What makes you think that one thing is going to build a road? It's not one thing. You needed a steamroller, you needed a shovel, you needed raw materials. So changing one variable and expecting something to happen is actually less productive than masturbation. You feel really good about yourself for doing it, but nothing productive happened at the end. So here's what you do if you're a biohacker, and that's one of the reasons I helped to create that field, is that it was born out of frustration, because I said, I'm going to try these vitamins. I'm a scientist. I'll try vitamin C for a month, and then I'll try vitamin B for a month. I'm going to see which one works. And then I did the math one day, and I said, I'm going to try one nutrient per month for the rest of my life, and it won't be done. But it turns out we understand pathways. And you could say, you need this one and this one and this one and this one. So the way you get results, if you want to fix your brain, you do everything that you can afford that is likely to work all at the same time. And when you do that, you wake up the next day and go, I got my brain back. And then you say, I wonder if they're all useful. Let me stop doing some of those and see if I go backwards. But if you're hoping you'll get the result by only doing one thing at a time, you're not getting it right. In Superhuman. Like, look, there's four things that are likely to kill you if you're average, right? And it's diabetes, it's heart disease, it's cancer and Alzheimer's. Those are going to get most people if they're average. But let's say that you avoid dying of those things, which is a small portion of the book. What are the seven things that are going to make you old? The things you must manage. Now, if you have that western scientific humor says it's one thing, which one thing do you do to maintain your car? Do you replace the tires when they're worn out, or do you change the oil? Maybe you do both. And so the academic discipline says, I want to boil things down to figure out the one thing is useful and valuable, and it's how we discover knowledge. But the way we get results as clinicians in clinics, working with patients, the way we get results as people caring for our system, is to do what works and then figure out which of the things was the most important and which combination is important. And when the researchers say, I controlled for all variables, did you know, Drew, that a major variable that no one tracked and no one understood was that when women feed mice in the lab, their hormones are different than when men feed mice.

Yeah, I had never heard of it before and I'm pretty deep in this space. I actually heard it first when I listened to your podcast, Dax Shepherd.

Nice.

And you could hear. They were like, wait, what?

And also, how many times have you read a paper on PubMed on mice where they told you the type of lighting used above the mouse's cage? Because I can show you a lot of studies about fluorescent lighting, circadian timing and. Oh, wait, are mice nocturnal animals? I wonder if that is an important variable, because it is and it wasn't tracked. Oh, and by the way, how many studies have you seen that look at the phase of the moon? Because my wife's an emergency room doctor and any ER doctor or cop will tell you that when there's a full moon, people go bonkers. And the ER is full. So that has some biological effect. Was it tracked? No. So we just believe that we control for all variables, but you cannot control for all variables in life because we don't know which ones matter yet.

Freakonomics. Great podcast. I don't know if you listen to it. They did a whole series called Bad Medicine. It's a three part series. And in one of the series that they did, I think it was the third one, they basically said that a big meta analysis of other studies came out and said that upwards of like I'm gonna put in the show notes so that you can see exactly the percentage, but I know that it was higher than 30 and I think it was lower than 60. Percentage of the studies that were published out that they tried to replicate were not replicatable. So studies get published. Yeah, yeah, studies get published all the time. And just because they get published and they're peer reviewed, when somebody tries to go back and do that study, they don't necessarily get the same results.

And sometimes it's crazy. Like in the history of the opiate receptor, just discovering the opiate receptor there was a major mistake made over sodium versus calcium edta, because the first person who wrote the study just wrote EDTA and didn't define which metal ion was on it. Okay. Little stuff like that happens all the time. And so, yeah, it can't be replicated. Or maybe it was something else because they had a woman feed the mouse and they got results. And it's our job to understand what those are. But as humans that have onboard systems and the ability to order lab tests, we can now say, you know what? The study of mice says this ought to work. Let's try it for a day or a month or a year. And let's track our results. And if we get the results that were predicted by the study with a reasonable theory of causation, we can say without a double blind clinical trial, damn, that worked. And when I stopped doing it, it went away. And when I did it again, it started again. So this is how humans behave. And the fact that we're sort of handcuffed by this. Well, there's no double blind placebo controlled trial. There never will be a double blind placebo controlled trial of jumping out of an airplane without a parachute. Because it's stupid. We can see that it works or it doesn't work. And many of the things, even in Superhuman, I talk about ozone therapy. And ozone is something that most people think of as an environmental pollutant. It's a strong oxidant that tells the cells in your body that they better wake up and start making antioxidants again. It's a signaling molecule. So I write about that stuff. Who would have ever thought that that was a meaningful thing? But it turns out there's studies and that it works. And people who try it, including Mark Hyman, he just talked about it on his show. And for me, when I did ozone therapy for the first time, I got my brain back in one time. It was only for five minutes. This is the best five minutes I've had in five years. And the next day, I did ozone therapy, And I got 10 minutes. And I did it every night for 18 months. And I got my brain back permanently, along with some other things. But here's the thing. If I had done just one thing, I might have never gotten it. If you're looking to upgrade everything about your life, make sure to check out the video right here. And while you're at it, hit subscribe below.