IG Live! Kara Swisher and Dave Asprey on Tech, Covid-19 & Sean Hannity

Hey, everybody. I am starting Instagram Live with Kara Swisher, the much known and respected tech journalist. You're gonna get a chance to ask her some questions. We just finished an episode on Bulletproof Radio. All right, good deal. I'm gonna read the questions from you guys. So, Kara Swisher, we're not on Facebook Live that I'm aware of, just Instagram Live. All right, she wants to know. She wants to know your thoughts on 5G and vaccine. So there's a bunch of people who are saying, look, there's a connection between mitochondrial weakness and EMFs and all that.

You need to stop. It's one of those conspiracy. I know it's been a big conspiracy theory on lots of different platforms, but I'm not going to comment on it. I'd insult you if I thought just. It's not. So. From what I can tell from the technologists I'm talking to, it's just right now become this sort of talking point on lots of conspiracy websites.

It's an interesting thing where I have gear right behind the thing over there that uses strong pulse electromagnets to cause your muscles to twitch. I know there's a biological effect, and I know some of the people I know and respect are saying, I think there's something going on here. I haven't seen any evidence that 5G is particularly related to anything, but all EMFs cause mitochondrial weakness to a certain extent. So there you go. I'm not gonna say I haven't seen it.

Can I say, Dave, someday there's gonna be a lot of science on the impact of all this technology around our heads. For sure. I don't doubt that it's coming out. I think this right now is a little. It's part of fear of mongering happening during this crisis.

I tend to agree with you, and I'll be the first to say EMFs matter. I just don't think that there's a clear smoking gun that you can use to connect the two. So there. I just. We made half the people happy and half the people angry. Because you don't have to be tribal. You can just be curious and just be like, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Both. We're both saying we don't know, but it's. I don't think there's. There's so much going on there. All right, another question about that stuff. Okay, now there's a question about ufc. All right, guys? Okay. Should the government issue the malaria drug to everyone as a Preventative. And we talked about that on the show. No, there are side effects, and they shouldn't be.

Oh, my God. There's all kinds of trials going on, and they really do need. This is a lot of doctors I know. This is something that needs to be made sure it's safe. There's some very serious implications, and several studies, I've tweeted a bunch today, are showing some very serious problems with certain patients around heart issues, around all kinds of stuff that you really don't want to. You know, you don't want to have a cure that kills you. And so I think the big goal will be to get a vaccine, the proper vaccine for this, for this virus. There are some things that will mitigate, including oxygen and other things that are safer. It's not to say we shouldn't be fast tracking this. It's that we have to be very careful that it's not. People calling it a miracle drug or a game changer, I think, are misspeaking, and it's a dangerous thing to do without really serious medical. And that's. I don't think people are trying to be slow. That's the accusation. Yeah, I think they. There's. I think I listened to Dr. Fauci on this one.

I do believe doctors should be free to treat as they see fit. Of course, the fact that they pulled it off the market so doctors couldn't do that, that is out of the bounds of medicine.

I know, but, you know, some doctors don't know what they're doing. I hate to say that, but you know what I mean, like, they don't have full evidence. I had.

Of course you can have evidence.

Sometimes they don't know, and sometimes maybe we should. If you're. If you're in a desperate situation, you're gonna try anything. And so I get that. I get that normal human feeling, but in most cases, it's probably better to err on the side of caution, especially in drugs like this that are. There's also a drug that solves. Tuberculosis is another one they're looking at, but they're looking at it carefully. And this is a drug that's been around a long time. There's a lot of things that are being worked on, and I think we just have to be just slightly more patient with certain. The ones that have bad side effects.

So I'm concerned that doctors are being guided to not do it when there are doctors who have the ability to do the labs who've worked with the medication before, where at this point, given that we have no evidence of what works, and we don't have any evidence of what doesn't work. It is the doctor's position. It's the doctor's position to make that call, not a government agency. And we have an issue where saying, well, let's wait for evidence. Well, if people are. In fact, one of the people I interviewed, Ann Shippy on Instagram, she's a medical doctor, former chemical engineer for IBM, passes the credibility test. Her patient, who's on this cocktail, goes into the hospital, and the hospital committee said, our standard of care is IV fluids until you need a ventilator. That was all they would do because nothing was approved.

There's also oxygen treatments before that.

Right. But that's. That's not exactly what the guy was already doing that was working. So it's those times where, okay, that standard of care isn't good enough because there's no evidence. So we, we have that. We have that. That going on where people aren't allowed to do it.

I think. I think I would prefer to have doctors who have some expertise in using this drug. I think having doctors that have never used it or don't know about it, you know, just even the smallest tweaking can really be problematic for people. And, you know, there's going to be a million case. There's not a million cases. There's going to be a lot of cases of people who did this. And it was much more. Had a really dilatory effect on them. And I think you'll be. You'll be like, well, why did they do that? So it's a complex thing. Until we get a vaccine, vaccine is where we should be focused on and figuring out the fastest mitigation techniques possible. Again, I think we talked earlier. There were a lot of cures during the AIDS crisis that were very damaging, and there were some that were great. And so I think figuring out the right cocktail to mitigate this is critically important. But again, our eyes should be on the prize, which is the vaccine.

I think our eyes should be on lowering the curve instead of flattening it, even. In fact, you might not need a vaccine if we just make it so no one else has to go to the hospital and they get it. So it becomes more like a common curve that seems more achievable in the short term.

But sure, 100%.

Here's another one. Do you have anything on the beef with Sean Hannity that you want to talk about?

What do you want me to say?

I don't know.

I don't have A beef with him. He has a beef with me. I wrote a column about my mother getting really bad health information on Fox News. And they did it egregiously for a long time in the early stages of this. And she was going out to restaurants, to theater, all kinds of stuff. And she's in the group that's most at risk. And so I wrote a column saying, this is. I mean, I spent a lot of time and my brother, who's a doctor in San Francisco, on the front lines of this were like, do not go out. You're very at risk for. You know, we made her take a regular vaccine for the flu and everything else. We get her the pneumonia vaccine. And she was just saying, it's a plot of Democrats. You know, it was craziness. And so I was. So I wrote a column saying how long it took us to get her good health information. And it was exhausting to try to push back against what we're really. You know, this was like the flu. I was like, this is like the flu, except there's no vaccine. You know what I mean? And so I wrote this column. And then the beginning of the column, I said, sean Hannity, I'm not going to sue you for this because other people are suing Fox News.

Oh, my God.

Yeah. And so I said, I'm not going to sue you because you can do your job badly because you're protected by the First Amendment. And I literally say, I'm not going to sue. And he kept tweeting at me after it was published, and you're going to sue me. And I'm like, the first line says, I'm not going to sue you. So they always try to manipulate whatever anybody says to their own purposes. And so all I said is, proximus, please don't kill my mother, if you don't mind. I really appreciate it. And they got their knickers in a nod over that. And he particularly did and started crazy tweeting at me. So I'm not in a war with him. I just wanted them to stop broadcasting bad health information.

Good luck with that. Personally, I get all of my health advice from Fox News.

Ah, right, Whatever, you know, and now they're doing another whatever I don't like. My issue was they were like, you hate Fox News because your mom likes or like you like Nancy Pelosi or whatever. I was like, my mom can tell me Nancy Pelosi is an idiot all day long. I don't care. But when you're telling her that it's okay to go out to a restaurant that maybe it's not such a good idea for an elderly person. I have a problem with that. So that's all I was saying. I think it was. I think a lot of people who have parents who are in the foxhole, as they say, appreciated me writing them.

Kara, there's a question from Brian. She says, how are you handling the San Francisco lockdown?

I'm actually in D.C. right now. Oh, you're in D.C. lockdown here. I have kids. I have a lot of children, but my kids go to school here, and so I'm in D.C. with them. And so it's fine. I don't love it. I'm a very. As I was talking with Dave earlier, we both travel quite a bit. I don't like not traveling. I love traveling. I. I go back and forth between San Francisco and the east coast. So I haven't been to San Francisco in a while. I think London. Bry did a great job calling this early and getting people to act safely. And I think their numbers are quite good in San Francisco. You know, nobody likes this. I don't think anybody likes this. I don't like not working. I work quite a lot, but it's tiring to be at home all the time. We don't have childcare because we're paying our child caregiver, but, you know, it's not safe for her family. So it's harder to work and have childcare and also try to have a regular life. So it's not great. I think everybody's. I mean, I'm lucky, so I'm not going to complain. I'm a lucky person. I have money and I have savings and I have a job. And so to complain seems untoward, but it's not great. I don't think anybody's happy about it. I don't know. Are you happy, Dave, on your island?

You know, I'm not actually noticing any difference in my quality of life because I already had social isolation. I live in a rural area. And I mean, the difference is it's almost impossible to work from home.

So I'm easier. I have an easier time because I worked at home, so I'm used to it. But work from home all the time now is a little harder.

I miss seeing. Yeah. Seeing the people that I get energy from, where we're doing the bulletproof conference that's been delayed. So, yeah, I miss a lot of that stuff. But in terms of when I'm home, it feels like it always does.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I Appreciate you being on. I'm seeing a lot of questions for, like, ozone and things that.

I can't help you with that.

I know. That's what I'm saying.

I'm thinking that's your area.

It is my area.

I was telling everyone, Dave got me to wear this aura rig. So I'm sort of in your camp now.

That's a big deal. When Kara interviewed me for. When does that come out? The recode decode.

This week. I think it's Monday.

Okay. So this week you'll want to see my. And I'll post a link to it on here. You'll want to see it. It was a really fun interview where she interviews me. And I'm like, I'm keeping good company. I followed her news reporting and tech for years. Like, wow, I'm finally on with Kara. But we talked with Oura Ring, and now I just interviewed her for Bulletproof Radio. And what do you know, she's wearing one and it's the one she's worn for the longest. So maybe that'll work. But for you guys, I'm gonna come on probably sometime later this evening. I'm hoping around 5ish. Don't promise. I'll do my best. I have kids. But I'll come on, answer some specific health questions. But thank you for being on asking some questions of Kara. And you're going to really appreciate that, Kara, thank you. Have a wonderful day.