Justin Bieber's Brain | Dr. Daniel Amen x Dave Asprey

This is what kind of drives me nuts, the idea of the meat operating system. And in my book, it feels like the body does something before the brain gets the signal. And, you know, you're talking about these. These specific daily practices, which, by the way, is a great format for a book, like talking about actionable, which is always the challenge. But how do we know if it's like a body trauma thing that then got reflected in the brain versus a brain health thing? Like. Like, how do you even know that?

Well, you know, when I look at scans, you know, one of the things I learned recently is Spocked. The study we do at Amen Clinics is actually measuring mitochondrial function. 49% of the tracer is actually taken up in the mitochondria. And so we're really getting a good look, not just of blood flow, but how healthy your mitochondria are. And you remember when we scanned you, which is, what, 15 years ago, your brain was not healthy, which meant your mitochondria were being poisoned by mold.

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So it was really hard for you to think, even though you're super bright, which is that disconnection between who I think I am and what I'm actually able to do. And I've just come to believe your brain is an organ. So Justin Bieber told me this, and I love him. And, you know, like many of my celebrities, he come. He'd not come. He'd do what I say. Mostly not. But when he went through a hard time, he came into my office and he said, I think I get it. My brain is an organ, just like my heart is an organ. And if you told me I had heart problems, I'd do everything you said, and I'm going to do what you say. And then he got, like, way better. And I think we have to think like that is. The physical functioning of my body is critical to how my mind works. And if I get my vessels right, if I get my microbiome right, if I get my detoxification pathways right, well, I'm going to think better.