Nature's Remedy: The Surprising Health Benefits of Urine Therapy | Darlene Teahen | 1171

What did your advisor say when you said, I want to study urine therapy? I mean, did he, like, literally spit his drink out or. She.

Yeah, she's like, that's definitely controversial. She's like, but she's like, I'm really interested in hearing your findings too. You know, everybody wants to know. Even the, even the people that are disgusted by it still want to know. Is this the future of medicine? Is there validity to this?

You're listening to the human upgrade with Dave Asprey. You're listening to the human upgrade with Dave Asprey. Well, we're going to talk about something that might be triggering for you. Yes, we're going to talk about pee. What? Yeah, urine therapy. Urine therapy is something that has pissed me off for a long time. Hopefully you saw what I just did there. Okay. My seventh grade sense of humor really just injected anti aging peptides into my brain from the dad joke there, but I can tell you probably didn't laugh. So now I'm judging you, but not out loud. So why does urine therapy piss me off? It's because I don't want it to work. This is something that you read about if you're into detoxing. I first heard about this in the late 90s and I absolutely drank my pee one time and was like, that was not really pleasant and that this isn't worth it. And I've also heard from people who say, oh, yeah, you know, I ferment my pee and I, you know, wash my hair with it and put it on my skin. And I'm like, this is a bit much for me. And I'm the guy who like, pulls my bone marrow out a couple of times and I've done, I. I've swallowed electrical stimulators that stimulated my intestines from the inside. Like, I'll do the weird stuff, but years after that, I actually probably a dozen times have injected my pee intramuscularly to modulate my inflammation response in a scientifically validated way that works clinically. So it turns out that there are things in your urine that are biologically useful. In fact, recent study published in a journal talks about stem cells present in urine. In fact, it would not surprise me if we can get over the ick factor if someday down the road you can actually extract stem cells from urine, which is a lot less painful than taking them from your bone marrow or from your fat. So that said, just a quick note about stem cells. I'm a little disturbed. I'm seeing a bunch of kind of low cost umbilical stem cell clinics pop up everywhere in the U.S. and there. There is a downside to umbilical cells that you've heard me talk about in documentaries and things like that, where I think your best bet is to use your own stem cells or to use gene edited or culture expanded stem cells. Maybe they'll come from urine someday. In fact, I'll bet you, but not yet. So our guest today is wrapping up her PhD and hasn't published anything on the topic of urine therapy or urine injection therapy or as it's called in Ayurveda, shivambu. But nonetheless, she's going to share what she knows. Her name is Darlene Tian. She's a naturopath, nutritionist, artist, author, and a fan of urine therapy. Darlene, welcome to this episode of the Human Upgrade.

Thank you, Dave. Thank you for inviting me on your podcast. It's great to get this information out there because I feel it's valid and needs to be heard because there is a big factor to it.

It's kind of funny because, like I said, I have swallowed my own urine and, and I did it in the 90s and I've actually tried it recently as well. And, well, if you know how to eat, your urine doesn't, it's not offensive. And if you eat the wrong stuff, like, gross. But it's not a regular practice. I don't, you know, have a shot glass full of urine every morning, like apparently some people do. And there's so many different ways of using it. And we know it has immune factors like IgG and IT. We know it has stem cells. We know it has minerals. We know it's structured water, your body structures, all that water before it's excreted. So there's stuff in there that's useful. I want to ask you first, before we get into your topic of research, what got you interested in this in the first place?

Well, a client came to me. Well, I met this woman at a gathering and she came to me and she, you know, Herdo is a naturopath. She's like, I am doing this Shibambu practice. She's like, my family is very concerned. And she's like, can you check me out and see if I'm healthy? That was, you know, it wasn't, you know, do you want to do it? Do you want, you know, anything? It was just, can you check me out and see if I'm healthy? Because my. My family's concerned. And I had also heard about it in the 90s and read about it, and I kind of went, I think someone's pulling one over on me. And I put it aside, like it's a prank. Right, Right. And I'm like, is somebody just trying to prank people? And, you know, but when she. And then I had heard it, little bits here and there in my. In my readings and research. And then when she said this, I'm like, I would love to check you out. I would love to know more about this. Anything that I don't know about, I want to know more about it. And so she came to my office, you know, and I checked her out. Her protein levels were fine. Her. You know, and. And she was mostly vegan, vegetarian at the time, you know, and, you know, drinking a lot of Shabamboo to the point where she didn't have much of an appetite. Her weight was good, you know, every. Her inflammation, everything was great in her body. She was very, very healthy. And I'm like, there's something here. There's something here. You've been practicing this for years now, and you are very healthy. Not on any medications, you know.