Learning From Millionaires The Right Way - FDDTC #32
7 Jun 2023 · 11 min
Devin Zander went from delivery driver to CEO of a multi-million dollar company. He explains why some advice only clicks when you're ready for it, and shares how the right mindset lets you learn from people ahead of you.
What's up, guys? Devin Zander here and today we are talking about how we go through seasons of life. It might not make sense, but don't worry, we'll get to it. I need to apologize for being late. They just sprayed our office for bugs and to be honest, they did it yesterday so I wasn't able to record and it's like awful in here. It is poisonous. So I'm going to try to power through this episode and I'm going to get the out of here. Okay? So, hey, this is Devin Zander. This is the From Delivery Driver to CEO podcast. These are lessons, tales and stories how I went from an everyday normal dude, high school dropout, Jimmy John's delivery driver, to the CEO of an eight figure company. So if you are a regular person and you're ready to change your life, you want to achieve great things and make a bunch of money, you're in the right place. Let's get into today's episode. So this episode is actually a shout out to Mike. I can't remember your last name, Mike, but I kicked you off a zoom call on Monday because you had a really bad attitude. And it's okay, dude, like I get it. I know where you're at. I actually know exactly what's going through your head. And it's that you want some sort of push button magic solution and you're not willing to do any work. And that's okay, you know, but you brought up some really interesting points. And for those of you who are not on our webinar on Monday, essentially there was a guy named Mike. Nothing against him, don't care about him at all, negatively or positively. I mean different. But he was on the call and we were about 70 minutes in. And keep in mind, this was a four hour long call. It was extremely long. Basically an entire breakdown of our how we've made $50 million. So it was quite a lot to discuss. And we're about 70 minutes in. We've taught a lot so far and I know when a lot of people join our webinars there's like all these backstories and like the hero's journey and how I went from a zero to a hero. We didn't do any of that. This was not a webinar where we were selling something. It was literally just four hours value packed content. But anyways, about an hour into it, Mike said, guys, like, what are you doing? This is. So when are you going to finally start teaching? When? When I'm not learning anything. I've been here for an hour and I haven't gotten it. And so on, so on, so on, so on, right? But here's the thing is we. We're already deep into teaching. In fact, we were teaching our 5W avatar framework, which is the who, what, when, where, why? And it's how we've been able to replicate and build brands over and over and over again. But Mike didn't find that valuable. And it got me thinking because I've realized this in my life before. I'm actually reading a book right now. It's called the Hard Thing about Hard Things. It's by Ben Horowitz. It's an excellent management book. Now, the first time I read that book, I didn't like it. I was like, dude, this is so irrelevant to me. This is like, this is stupid. Why would I need to learn this? And I've had similar experiences with another book called Atomic Habits too, right? And I reread both those books, and on the second and third readings, I'm like, wow, this is life changing. This is seriously amazing information. And I'm reading the Hard Thing About Hard Things right now, and it's probably gonna go down as one of my favorite books. But yet the first time I read it, I was like, dude, what is this? This is nonsense. And that is exactly what Mike was going through at that time in that place. Now, I need you to understand something. There are seasons in life. There are certain points when we are not yet ready for certain information. How many times in your life have you read something or gone through something or watched something, and you're like, this is so stupid. I'm not learning anything from this. This is a waste of my time. And then you went back and you viewed it at a later point in time, and you're like, dude, this is. This shit. I love this. How many times does that happen in your life? Chances are it's happened a lot. And that's just because there are certain periods in our life when we feel like information is irrelevant to us, yet we're reading it and it's written by or the content is created by people who are, like, way beyond where we are, you know, like, so, for instance, the Hard Thing About Hard Things, it's written by Ben Horowitz. He's worth like $4 billion. And yet here's me making like a million dollars a year. And I'm like, ah, this is stupid. I don't need this, right? Like, obviously I'm wrong. And it's just because we. We feel that way because we're in a place where we're not yet mature enough to understand the information or to realize how relevant it is, or it seems like too much work that we're just not willing to do right? And that is something that we want to avoid. This comes from a place of ego where we feel like we don't need to learn. And that's what Mike was doing on call on Monday. He was coming in from a place of ego where he thought he was above this information. Even though I can guarantee you, no offense to you, Mike, that you're making infinitely less money. Not infinitely, but you're making many hundreds of times less money than we are. You want to do exactly what we want to do with our business. You want to create an e commerce business. You want it to be. Be very profitable. That's why you're on the webinar, right? Or else why would you be on the webinar? You wouldn't be there. You'd just be wasting your time. And yet, when we're giving you the keys to the castle, you think that, oh, this is. I just wasted an hour listening to this. Meanwhile, if we were to go teach that exactly what we taught to you, to someone who is already doing six figures a year on their store and they wanted to get to that million dollar mark, they'd be like, holy shit, this is fucking gold. This is amazing. Why is that? Like I said, sometimes we're not ready for the information yet. And look, I'm not here to, like, preach. I'm guilty of it, too. I've already confessed two instances where that's happened to me. And it also happened with my biggest mentor, Andy Frisella. When I used to listen to his podcast, I was like, oh, this is fucking dumb. And now I'm like, wow, this is the best business podcast ever. Right? So I want to challenge everyone here that if there's someone that you respect and that you look up to and they're teaching you something and they've already accomplished what you want to accomplish, okay, that's important. They have to have already done what you want to do. And when they teach you something and you feel like it's irrelevant to you or it's unimportant to you or whatever, I want you to challenge that belief because chances are you're wrong. You are just flat out wrong. Now, you might be in a place where you're not yet ready for that information. It might actually not be relevant to you at that point. For instance, if it's something about managing people or if it's about hiring, right, you might be like, oh, well, I don't have any employees like this. This is irrelevant to me. And that's true at the time. But I want to challenge you, right? Because what do you want to do? Eventually you want to grow, right? Like, you want to make millions of dollars a year profit for yourself. And to do that, you'll probably need to hire some help along the way. Whether it's just a virtual assistant, whether it's a writer, whether it's an advertising agency, whether, you know, it's just someone like an operator, I don't know, whoever you want to hire, but you're going to have to hire someone. So while you might be bored by that information, and while you feel that it might not be relevant in that time, I challenge you to go through it anyways. Take it all in anyways, okay? Digest all that knowledge anyways, because nothing gives more leverage than knowledge. If you were to look at some of the most successful people of all time, okay, they all learned from those who came before them. You do not go in and try to figure shit out all on your own when. When there have been hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands who have paved the way before you. They have gone through the trials, they've gone through the tribulations, they have jumped into the fire and they figured it out. And there's so much knowledge out there where they're teaching you how to avoid those pitfalls, how to stay clear of the fire and have a cleaner, less stressful, straighter path to success. So even if you feel like, man, this is just not good, it's not relevant. Understand that you're saying, when you say that, you are saying that, oh, man, this person who just did what I did, and they did it many times over, and they're so successful, there's this thing that's really important to them that they think is a massively beneficial. And it's super helpful in me that the person who has not accomplished it yet is saying that. I don't think it's that important. That doesn't make sense. You need to challenge that belief. You need to defeat it. Because if you do not, you know, like, for instance, this podcast is a lot about mindset. It's a lot about things like vision and goal setting and reverse engineering. I'm not guys, I'm not fucking dumb. Like, I understand that that's not the type of content most people want. What most people want is for me to come on and say, if you press these five buttons you'll be a millionaire. That's what people want. I'm not like, I'm not stupid, but I don't do that because it would be a disservice to you. I'm giving you what I learned along the way that is actually super beneficial. That has made me millions of dollars and it's these things, but it's actually great because it's so much simpler than people imagine it to be. You just have to accept it. There are no secrets. There are truths that people refuse to believe. That's what I'm trying to share with you. I hope this episode made sense. It was just something I thought about because I've already thought about it a lot in my life. The first time it ever happened was with that book, the Atomic Habits book. The first time I read it, I was like, this is stupid. And then I read it again and I was like, wow, this is life changing. So, you know, Mike, if you're out there, dude, I actually don't dislike you. I don't want you to think that I hate you, I'm mad at you or anything. I kicked you because you were being disruptive, but you have an issue with your thinking. Because what Matt and I were sharing when you thought that, oh, my God, you guys aren't teaching anything. It's actually one of the most important things we could have ever taught you. You just have too much ego and you think you know too much to find it relevant to you. And that's okay. If you want to do that, you can. I'm not here to tell you that I'm right and you're wrong. But what I am here to tell you is if you refuse to learn from others and if you, like, take lessons that people who are already accomplished what you want to accomplish and you take their lessons and you say, well, this isn't relevant to me. These guys are actually fucking stupid. Listen, there's a reason that every time we build a store, it gets to the seven figure or eight figure mark. There's a reason. It's because we know what we're doing and we're trying to share it with you. If you don't want to value it, that's your choice. But I'm here to challenge that. Because I've been in those situations where I didn't value someone's advice. And then when I came back to it with an open mind, I was like, holy, this is life changing. So, guys, I got to get out of this office before I die of poisoning my throat actually really Burns. This is Devin Zander from delivery driver to CEO podcast. I hope you enjoyed. I'll see you guys on the next episode. Make sure to like, comment, subscribe, leave a 5 star review and I'll catch you guys later. Peace. Have a good day. Yeah, peace.