In this conversational interview, Speaker B explains the Debt Service Coverage Ratio (DSCR) loan product—a 30‑year fixed, no‑doc, asset‑based rental financing program that requires rental income to exceed the debt service by at least a 1.25‑to‑1 ratio. The discussion traces the product’s history (launched in 2019, fell off during COVID, then rebounded) and notes that DSCR loans now account for roughly 65% of the firm’s closings, overtaking traditional fix‑and‑flip financing. Speaker A then shifts focus to the broader market, highlighting a pronounced surge in multifamily acquisitions, evidenced by a flood of recent articles on the topic. The speakers attribute this multifamily boom to a nationwide housing shortage and low mortgage rates that keep existing homeowners in place, prompting investors to target rental‑oriented assets. Overall, the dialogue underscores a pivot in real‑estate lending toward income‑producing, long‑term financing structures.
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Are you seeing any trends in the asset classes, like maybe a little bit more pickup or going, you know, increase in lending for multifamily and commercial, maybe like a little, you know, stagnant or flatness on the single-family side? I mean, what are you seeing in that regard?
So our biggest demand right now is single-family 1 to 4 DSCR loans.
Yeah.
So those are, I mean, they've taken over, you know, they came out in 2019, capital markets did and hard money did. Came out in 2019, then died during COVID and then came back even stronger and then kind of balanced for 2022, 2023. But now everybody is jumping on that acquisition and hold DSCR.
Yeah. And for folks that are on here that might not know, I didn't mean to interrupt.
What is— I didn't think about that.
Yeah. Tell folks, explain a little bit more about— I mean, I know it is, but what is DSCR?
So it's Debt Service Credit Ratio is what DSCR stands for. And basically what it is, it's a 30-year fixed rental program, which we offer with no doc. So you can go get that through Fannie Freddie and all that. You got to provide W-2s, pay stubs, tax returns, blah, blah. We offer it just like a hard money loan. It's no doc and it's asset-based. And basically the rent has to offset the debt by a 1.25 ratio or greater.
Okay.
Meaning I got— if I'm charging If my mortgage is $1,000 a month and I'm getting $1,250 a month in rent, then it DSCRs or debt services the note.
Yeah, right, right.
And so that's what that is. And sorry for being so vague.
No, no, no, no. I, like I said, I understand that majority of our audience will, but just for the folks that don't—
one guy that doesn't know it. Yeah, well, right.
And like you said, it's been here since 2019. Well, I mean, it did come in then and did like— took a dive. Now it's coming back.
But, you know, just, just—
yeah, just so— yeah, just so folks know what it is. Are you seeing more of a trend then of that, of people using the DSCR?
Yeah, we're probably right now, we're probably 65% of our closing is a DSCR versus fix and flip. Okay. And then we're seeing a huge, huge uptick in multifamily. Every article you pull up, you just Google, you know, real estate trends in America right now. And there's 15 articles about multifamily acquisitions. Everybody's getting back into it.
Why do you think that is? Why do you think now is the catapult time to get back into it?
I think, I think here's why, because two reasons. One, we have a 6.5 million housing shortage nationwide, and it may even be bigger than that. We have 6.5 million people in the nation that need housing, and homeowners aren't selling because they went through COVID and got those 2% and 3% interest rates.
