276 - Make America Healthy Again with Del Bigtree

We've all been pushed by the media that we watch. It doesn't matter which side, whether you're watching conservative media or liberal media, it is all divisive, polarizing, polarizing. It's awful. It's really, truly the biggest problem in this country. We could, we can solve any of the issues that we think we disagree on as long as we can communicate.

Hello and welcome to the Remarkable CEO Podcast, a show dedicated to chiropractors who want to transform their job into a business so that they can have a remarkable practice as part of a remarkable life, not instead of one. With your hosts, Dr. Pete Camiolo and Dr. Steven Fransen.

Welcome back to another episode of the remarkable CEO podcast, Chiropractic's number one business chiropractic podcast podcast. I'm Dr. Pete Camiolo.

And I'm Dr. Stephen Fransen.

And Doc Steven. We are thrilled because today we have a guest with us in the studio. I'll tell you, this guy I know mainly over the years from his show High Wire. The High Wire, that's where I found this guy. And I would just love watching these episodes. They're not short, they were long. And I could just sit there and just, just, just sit in it and spend a few hours just learning. And from him and his passion to support people and speak the truth and get the message out there, we are honored. Dr. Stephen today to to be interviewing on the CEO podcast Del Big Tree again, host of the High Wire, also president of ICANN Informed Consent Action Network, producer of Vaxxed From COVID up to Catastrophe, and the Emmy award award winning producer of the Doctors. He also has some other things he's up to right now, which I'm sure we're going to get into. So, Adele, on behalf of our podcast listeners, welcome to the show. Thank you for taking the time out of your very full schedule to meet with us here today.

Oh, man. Thank you for taking the time to invite me, have me here. I just feel really blessed to have this opportunity to talk with you guys right now.

Well, it's an honor for me. So while I was thinking about our, our podcast, Dr. Steven, and I was remembering, I'll. And I'll throw it over to you after this, but I was remembering watching Dell. It was, it was probably 2021, but you went live from Washington D.C. and, and we were just marching in Washington, D.C. just really committed with a committed group of people, just committed to, hey, we're not okay with the way things are. We, we need to do things differently. And I'll I'll just never forget that. I also remember you showing up to New Jersey, which is my home state, and being there with that crowd of people. A lot of my brother's family was there, and I just remember that. So, man, I just want to recognize you just for your faithfulness, your commitment. I also see that you're all over the place. So thank you for your commitment to serving and. And being a man on the mission. That, man, I'm so thankful and grateful for you.

Thank you. Thank you. I'm. I'm enjoying myself. You know, I. I say, you know, warriors love war. We're in a war here for, you know, light over darkness. And, you know, I kind of wake up every morning pinc myself. I get another day. I think. I think we were born for this time, you know, that's why we're here.

Yeah, 100%. So I had an opportunity to hang out with Dell down in Florida at the Ultimate Achievers Club. We had a. He was one of our speakers, and we spent some time together. I was just so impressed with his message, which, you know, of course, I'm very, very familiar with your work, Dell, but there's nothing like, you know, hanging out, breaking bread, and having just the. The side conversations where you get to know the man behind the message. And I'm just so impressed how aligned we are. I just appreciate everything that you've done for, let me just say, for America, for American families, for parents, for children, but for chiropractors specifically. And I wanted to invite you into this conversation because, you know, truth be told, and I'm just going to be very transparent through this, is like, there was some trepidation to bring you on because, you know, Dr. Pete and I recognize that there's a massive responsibility that we have in reaching our audience and being careful not to polarize people, like, just say, let's say this politically, but we have no problem polarizing people on our position or our policies. Right? So, you know, at the end of the day, I thought the way that you have navigated this has just been beautiful. So, you know, inviting you into this conversation, recognizing that this is this situation right now where. Where we find ourselves is bigger than our platform. It's bigger than, you know, trying to couch the language and protect our brand or the integrity of. Of, you know, honestly, I'm on the other side of that now because these issues are too big, like what we're facing right now. So letting go of the fear of being agnostic, you know, or apolitical, the reality is we need to have a political conversation here, and we. And all we have to do is talk about the policies and. And then let the. You know, the chips fly. Because at the end of the day, there is so much at stake right now for humanity, right? So there's so much at stake right now for Americans, for America, for our families, for our children, and definitely for chiropractic, the way, you know, we went sequentially through, you know, I think starting at the top with censorship and, you know, how dangerous that is to, you know, all of those interested parties that I just listed and. And talking about the collusion between big tech and big pharma and big medicine and big government and big food. I mean, just. We can just keep going, but that the. The. The fact of the matter is that we're.

We're.

We're dealing with so much corruption and collusion right now. It's incredibly difficult for us to navigate this. And, you know, depending on which way this election goes, that's only going to either get worse or get better. It's not going to stay the same. And then I think, very specifically, getting into the current state of the health of America, right? And specifically the health of our families, of our children. And this whole theme of Make America Healthy again, which, of course, I wore my hat today. So if you're watching this on YouTube, this hat is four years old because we created this Make America Healthy movie for the last, you know, the last election because we wanted to present ourselves in the middle between these two parties. We produced the third party called the Vitalistic Party, where we brought our platform to bear. And, my man, it was like you were reading our notes when you're in front of the room. So I'm super excited about this conversation today. What do chiropractors need to know? What's on the line, Dell, And I'll let you take it from here, man. I knew all you needed was a little bit of a poke and a shove. Let's have this conversation.

Well, you know, first of all, I just want to say to everyone out there, you know, I've had the opportunity to walk with Robert Kennedy Jr. For the last 18 months as his director of communications. And, you know, we've been in the gauntlet dealing with censorship at levels we've never really seen before. Many of you probably watched. I mean, not a single mainstream news entity would really interview Bobby, even though when he was polling 20, 25%, which. Which I think, you know, we should look at that as election interference. When you have someone that's you know, making that powerful, you know, a statement in this country, we should want to hear from them. We should hear from them. Everyone should get to decide candidates. And so I would say from the very beginning, you know, there's a lot of questions, you know, our election stolen. I will say that this election has already been rigged. It already has been rigged the way it was designed. You didn't get to see Robert Kennedy Jr. On a debate stage, even though he was pulling high enough to be there. That's. That's rigged. I think that, you know, my feeling is if Robert Kennedy Jr. Had had the opportunity, as he should have, to stand on the stage with Donald Trump and Joe Biden, there's a very good chance for those of you that have heard these great podcasts and things he's doing, that I think he could have woken up the next morning in first place and been on track to, you know, be the president, United States. But we don't have a system that is working fairly. You know, many rules on the Fairness Doctrine where the media used to have to give everybody equal time is just a part of it, legally having that broadcast. Right. Those things have disappeared over years, and both parties have been a part of, you know, manipulating the system so that they can control it. I think in many ways, when people say it's two sides of the same coin, most of the time that is the case. And so I want to say in this conversation that I can't expect people to meet me right where I'm at. They haven't seen every nuanced detail that we've gone through in this journey that brought us to, you know, and brought Bobby to, I think, one of the most difficult decisions he's ever made in his life, and I think one of the most courageous decisions any politicians ever made. But before I go there, I kind of just want to back up a little bit and say, you know, how I got here. One of the things I was sharing at the event that you were at, Dr. Steven, and that is that I never went to a doctor when I was a kid. I. My parents raised me, you know, in a, like, supernatural health space. Sometimes we'd be macrobiotic, other times, like, they tried a bunch of different things, but they really, truly believed that our body was designed to heal itself. They had a very strong connection to sort of the power of your mind. So we weren't. We didn't. Weren't allowed to watch a lot of TV or radio. But I remember when, you know, a commercial would pop on about cancer, my mom would Just run over and just turn the TV off. Said, don't, don't bring those words in your consciousness. That. That's not, you know, you know, just, just stay clear, stay connected with God. And the only, the only practitioner I ever saw was on occasion, if I wiped out on my skis or something, was feeling like particularly, you know, not well, we would go to chiropractors. And so in, in essence and, and think about that. Until I started touring with Vax and doing all this work that you guys have been so supportive. I just realized, you know, actually I grew up with chiropractic and, and what was amazing in that journey, and I said, I've said to a lot of you guys at dinners is, you know, the chiropractors I went to when I was a kid just kind of popped and, you know, rocked. And then you were out the door and sitting at dinners with you guys and hearing, you know, the philosophy of the innate and, you know, the, you know, the connection with God and how perfect we perfectly were designed. I just thought, man, I wish I'd have heard more of that. It was truly aligning with how I was raised. But, you know, I also talk about. My parents pulled me. My mom pulled me out of school when I was in about third grade. I was. I went to school one day with a T shirt on that I'd made an art class. It said the flyers on it. I'd made it, like with batik dyes and wax and the art class, I thought it looked cool. Anyway, we would walk home for lunch every day. And I came home from lunch. My school was just a couple blocks away and I wasn't wearing the T shirt. And my mom's like, oh, what, what happened to the T shirt you were wearing? And I said, oh, Craig thought it looked stupid, so he lives right next door. And I just borrowed one of his T shirts. My mom pulled me and my sister out of school that day. I didn't see a public school again until I went back in 10th grade. And she just said to me, I'm never going to raise kids that care what other people think. You like that shirt. That's what you were guided to wear. You let someone else's thoughts about you change. You know, your decision. I'm not going to raise kids that, that I'm going to raise kids that listen to God, listen to their intuition and question authority. I was taught to question authority. And that meant anyone, meant a teacher, meant my own parents. Makes it very difficult, difficult to raise your kids when you tell Them, they're allowed to question authority. I, I had the same rule in my house. And sometimes, you know, I had a, my, you know, a friend visiting and my son was arguing back on something I'd asked him to do. And she's like, will you just do what your father said? I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. In this house, you're allowed to make your legal argument. He gets one leg argument. He's making a particularly bad one at the moment, but let's let him finish it out, you know, so I really believe in, you know, that sort of inspired learning space. It's what made me who I am today. Never having been near doctors. And what was crazy was just my trajectory with my career. I, I wanted to be in film and television. And my first break was the Dr. Phil show as a field producer. And then ultimately he created the show called the Doctors. And I ended up being an Emmy award winning producer on the daytime talk show the Doctors. My mom would call me and say, what are you doing working on a medical talk show? You've never been to a doctor in your life?

Hold on.

You know, and that was, you know, it was a good question. And, but, you know, I didn't really know, except I said to her, I, I mean, God obviously wants me here. The, the doors opened up in such a way that this is where I've landed and I'm kind of a Trojan horse because no one knows where I come from. They don't know my background, they don't know I've never been to a doctor. And they're not paying attention to the fact that all the stories I'm doing are actually challenging the medical establishment. You know, I'm interviewing doctors that are using less invasive surgery techniques. Or here's a story. The Cleveland Clinic is now bringing in chiropractic right into the clinic. Or here's a doctor using acupuncture instead of anesthesia. And then, you know, stories about drugs gone wrong and people being injured by hospitals and, and so, and I ended up being the highest rated producer on the show. And just everything I was doing rated very high. Because I think deep down people have always had a question, is this feel like I'm handing my life over and I don't feel like I'm getting healthier. So I sort of, you know, laid that out in my, you know, if you think of the show is like five days a week. I, you know, I had, you know, one of those days with, with one of my shows. So that was my background. And then of course, you know, when I ran into the whistleblower store at the CDC, Dr. William Thompson saying that there was, you know, that they were committing scientific fraud in the vaccine safety studies. And just incredible set of miracles that took me from the moment of the doctors introduced me to Andrew Wakefield. Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who was already making that film. I just, I could go on all day at the. Just like, I mean, just straight up miracles everywhere. I was making a prayer that I wanted to be a part of the whistleblower story. Minutes later I get a call, introduce me to Andrew Wakefield, and just. I've had that kind of incredible journey, especially right at that moment where I made Vax. And of course, that's where. I mean, I don't think that film would have been made without chiropractic, you know, is a, you know, we made it on a wing and a prayer, but the parts of it that actually needed cash, that. That mostly came from the chiropract all over this country. And I knew when I ran into that, that moment in that film that I'd sort of. I found my destiny. The reason I'd been on a medical talk show was I had been, you know, God was training me with my 10,000 hours of editing science and medicine for regular people. Because when I ran into Andy in that film, the information was there, but it was just way too technical and sort of written by Andy as a doctor would defend himself in court. But it was, it wasn't going to be understood by people. And so I, I remember when I watched it and just thought, not only am I the most, you know, not only qualified, I think, to be involved in this film, I just thought, I think I'm actually the most qualified person in the world. It was like this thing had been designed for me and it's been just a brilliant faith journey ever since. Started the high wire I can. I wanted to investigate vaccines further. And of course, that's where I ran into Robert Kennedy Jr. Who has really stood his ground in such a beautiful and honorable way. And just for a moment to talk about him. When you think of vaccines and politics, I mean, here's a guy who was the darling of the Democratic Party. They begged him to run as senator in New York. And he stepped aside, said, no, why don't you let Hillary do it? I mean, that's how close he is in those circles. And all because he was an environmental attorney fighting for the earth, which was something we, you know, all cared about getting poison, toxins, you know, pollution out of our rivers. Our air, our food. But as soon as, you know, a parent, you know, really forced him to sit down and look at the chemicals, especially mercury and vaccines, I think he, you know, he even said he avoided it for a long time, I think. And we've dealt with this through covet. A lot of scientists, they're like, oh, man, I don't want to look.

Oh, it's electric fence. There's no question it is electric defense.

It's just, you're screwed, you know, And I don't want to know if it is true. I don't want to be stuck with information that if I go near it, I'm going to, you know, you know, get electrocuted, as you put it. So. But to watch Bobby for, you know, nearly a decade, just getting dragged through the mud on that issue, and, you know, he's like, this is a Kennedy. This is like being born Nike. You know what I mean? You're born into a brand name that has to carry. I can't imagine the pressure of that on these families, family members, as they wear that everywhere they go. Are you going to be a politician? And. And, you know, in all of that, he never walked away. And I, you know, I asked him a couple years ago, like, bobby, why don't. Why don't you just walk away from the vaccine issue? I mean, you can go back to the environment handling all these other things, and this one's just really been so brutal for you. And he said, you know, my dad, Dell, would drive into the poor neighborhoods every time we would go on a trip with the family, and he would say, look around at these people. You know, you see the homeless shelters where people living in. In, you know, paper shacks. And he. And he said, you know, my dad would say, these are. These are the Kennedy people. These are who we fight for. Not the people that can afford lobbyists and get everything they want, the ones that are getting overlooked. And he said, dell, when I recognize that kids were being killed and injured and maimed by these vaccines, no one's defending them. No one's fighting for them. They're telling every parent going through this that they're crazy. He's like, I don't. I'm not. I. I was designed to choose that as my mission. That's my mission. I've got to fix that issue. So it's. It's been really incredible to know him through the years. And so then when he decided to run for president and asked me to. To get involved with him, help him there, you know, is it was an honor. I, I, I kept my, somehow so far I've kept my non profit up. Haven't really missed a high wire episode yet while, you know, really dedicating so much time to, to helping Bobby with the media around his campaign. And so, you know, when you look at American politics, you know what? I, I played a little piece of his, his speech stepping down where he decided to suspend his campaign. And you know, first of all, everyone should watch that speech. I mean I, I think it, I think it'll go down history as one of the great speeches ever given. It is so raw. We can put a link to that.

Honest show notes so we get a copy of that or just stitch it right onto the end of this episode.

Yeah, it's so raw and honest about what the issues are really going on in this country. The corruption that's taking hold, the corporate corruption of our government that owns our government, also owns our televisions. We are in a, you know, in private, a propaganda bubble that we, it's very, very difficult for people to even recognize that they're in it. Our, our Internet is being whitewashed now. You can't even search for the same terms or ideas as used to. They're going in and making sure your searches are only bringing up what they want you to see. We are really so close. This dystopian experience where you are just siloed in your own world and, and not actually aware of the world that we're actually living in. We are being sort of, you believe, and, and we're in many ways, I joke. It's like the Matrix. I feel like I'm just being lowered in a jelly and somehow the ideas of, you know, the world I'm supposed to believe exists is, is what I'm seeing.

That's right.

So, but you know, we were doing great. Bobby was pulling about 25% at the high point, which felt really good. If we could have gotten into the debates, it would have been a game changer. But the moment.

The assassination attempt on Donald Trump that, I mean, I think we all, at least those of us that were, have blood moving through our veins, I think recognized how.

How horrifying that was. I think also had he been struck, you know, we could have found ourselves in a civil war. I think we have just, we've all been pushed by the media that we watch. It doesn't matter which side, whether you're watching conservative media, liberal media, it is, is all polarizing, polarizing. It's awful. It's really truly the biggest problem in this country, we could, we can solve any of the issues that we think we disagree on as long as we can communicate. And we've been taught to not really be able to communicate any longer. And so that's one of the things I felt best about running with Bobby's campaign. He wouldn't, he wouldn't play into that at all. Even at times where I thought we could have, you know, given a little, you know, punch, he just, he wouldn't do it. So, Dell, I am not going to speak down about the people that I'm running against. I'm going to run an honorable campaign. We are going to make it about policies and what we believe in and I'm not just going to drag this down. And I think that he should be very proud of how beautifully he handled himself throughout that campaign, you know. Yeah, but he reached out to Donald Trump and some people helped facilitate that. I think probably you know, even, you know, President Trump recognized that, you know, Bobby's had several assassinations around his family, in his family. We had, you know, several break ins and security breaches. And we're dealing with the fact that he never had proper security the whole time. So it's on our mind. And I think, you know, when you watch someone go through the scariest situation like that and it's so close to you, Bobby just really wanted to reach out. He wanted to make sure that President Trump's family was okay. Thinking about the kids of Donald Trump, how traumatizing we think about the person Bobby was thinking about, how traumatizing it was for him as a kid. But it started a dialogue. You know, those two got together and Bobby came away from that phone call and said, you know, Donald Trump is, I don't think he's the guy we think he is. There's something he's like, I don't know if this event has changed him. I don't know if it's temporary. But he expressed being very concerned about the health of our children in America. And, and Bobby came to me, said, you know, he, he said to me, if I, you know, if everything worked out that he got to be president, he, he expressed that he would like Bobby to, you know, get involved with the regulatory agencies. He says you've been suing them. I've watched you your whole career. You're very, very talented. I think you know how to clean up the swamp. And, you know, I think we should work together on that. So it was an incredible thing to see happen. And then spent, we spent probably three or four weeks, I think off and on. Well, I always say the whole team, there's about really four or five of core team members around Bobby. And I, I say it was like flopping around like salmon on the beach every day. I would have the opposite point of view. Yeah, I think. I think we got to bail out. You got to join Donald Trump. It's really, you know, and then one of the team was like, no, Dell, I disagree. We got to see this to the end. And then they'd make their boys like, oh, those are really good points. All right, you're right, you're right. No, no, hold on. You made good points. They're like, we were just crossing each other every day. Someone was on a. In a different space.

But it came down to we had to make a decision. And. And then, of course, Joe Biden stepping down with those two things. Assassination attempts. Joe Biden stepping down. Kamala's being selected, not elected. You know, I don't want to be insulting to anyone that, you know, you know, maybe doesn't see this politically the way I do, but that, you know, I, I find that incredibly dangerous that we have someone that did not get elected through any sort of voting system. And, you know, my issue starts with the Democratic Party, that they never had a primary that Bobby could be a part of. And they went. They rigged it. You know, they passed a law because we were looking to. We knew we were strong in New Hampshire. And New Hampshire is the first, you know, primary state has been for really since, you know, the beginning of time. But because Biden didn't perform there and we were performing so well, the Democrats made a rule for the party that if you had set foot in New Hampshire prior to the primary to, you know, to talk to people, that any vote you got would go to. To Joe Biden. That happened. I mean, so anyone that thinks that this is like, I mean, you can't. That's. That's insane. And yet it was that level of corruption going on inside of the party. So no primary. Marianne Williamson complains about the same thing. We all knew, you know, that Joe Biden did not look like he was capable of running the country. He clearly had health and mental issues at that point. And so for the party to rob this country of the opportunity to select their favorite liberal candidate. And when you look at Bobby, he was polling, he was beating Donald Trump in every head to head poll. The moment he came into the race, he beat Joe Biden in every head to head poll. So you gotta ask yourself, why did the Democrats pass up on a Kennedy, you had one of the world's leading, probably the greatest environmental attorney of all times. He's a Kennedy. When he started answering questions, we realized, my God, he's got a historical knowledge of every world's issue. I mean, he was the perfect candidate, except one. One thing. He vowed from the beginning, I'm going to end the corruption in our regulatory agencies. I am getting rid of the corporate stranglehold the day I get in office. And the Democrats never let him near a stage, never let him onto a television. And I think that that should tell you a lot, because they would rather not have someone, you know, overturning the Apple card and kicking out the money changers. They'd rather lose. And that's what they face. They would rather lose Donald Trump than to have a Kennedy that was really going to go in and do what his father had wanted to do and what his uncle had attempted to do to really put this nation into people's hands. And I do think that that's what we're looking at right now. I don't think we've had the same country since his father was assassinated. I think his father stepped in to try and finish what his uncle had attempted to do. Probably look at, you know, central reserve banking systems, certainly at the CIA's, you know, constant war machine, all of these things. Now Bobby's saying that he wanted to address. And so you, you know, if you're a corrupt system, you can't have those guys in there. So in that final day, you know, we really needed to decide. You know, Bobby was really. The weight of the world is on his shoulders. And he called me into Hyannis Port, said, I want you to be there with my family, a couple of other people. I want to hash this out and figure out what we're going to do. And, you know, I woke up that morning, and I felt like he'd brought me to sort of talk his family into it. Like, I, you know, I think Bobby's moving the Trump direction. I'm fairly convincing. And I woke up that morning. This is the truth. I woke up just, like, really inspired to tell him not to do it for, you know, for all the spiritual reasons that I thought, you know, were important. And I. I texted him and I said, can I meet you before we have all the family and everybody in the house? I could really. I got to share some thoughts with you. And he said, yeah, I want you to come and take a swim with me on the beach. And so I met him down there, and, you know, I just I was scared. Donald Trump, you know, I just want to say, like, it's. Bobby ran such a powerful, spiritual, beautiful campaign of. And if you listen to his stories about his addiction recovery, which I think is a huge part of makes. That makes him who he is, which was the only way he was able to get his life back was to find God and be in a constant daily journey to overcome self will and walk in divine, you know, guidance, if you will. And I said, it's just hard for me to imagine, Bobby, that we're supposed to have taken this ride all the way to here only for you to, like, turn, you know, over and, and help. What I think people would say is the, is the personification of self will in, in Donald Trump. You know, why is that? How can that be our spiritual journey? Like, I'm just saying that I'm just being really honest and, and I shared just several thoughts like that with Bobby. And just to point out, you know, he could have made it easy on himself. He knew his family was really struggling with it. And he said, dell, I want you to share all of those thoughts in the room today. I want everyone to hear everything. And so I can say that we had some of the greatest minds I've ever been around in the room right there with us. We had other brilliant people that came in on Zoom calls, and there was like a turning moment when one of the people that was, you know, coming in via Zoom said, bobby, do you feel like it's possible? Do you believe it's possible we could see a nuclear exchange in Ukraine between Ukraine and Russia under a, you know, Kamala Harris presidency? And, and Bobby said, I absolutely do believe that that's a, a, a real concern. And it was a concern for all of us. And it was a concern for this person that was coming in that has a lot of knowledge on the issue. And they said, then if you believe that, you must do everything you can to make sure that that never happens. And I think at that point, it's about middle of the day that really did shift the conversation. What are we talking about? Are we talking about we knew we couldn't win at that point, the system was rigged? Are we martyrs? Are we just here to say, oh, well, look how hard we tried and, you know, look how corrupt the system is, or have we gotten to this point, have enough followers that we can actually shift the course of this election? And, you know, I've said to family members that are close to me, you know, I wasn't raised to be stupid. I have one Party in the Democrats that are promising me censorship in the future have already said that when they say misinformation, the issue around natural health, around chiropractic, around vaccines, that is what they mean, right? So maybe misinformation doesn't scare everybody in this country. But anyone that wanted to try and speak truth to the insanity around the COVID pandemic, we were shuddered. You know, you had the inventor of the technology himself and Robert Malone censored when he came out and said, this isn't ready for, you know, humanity. It's not ready for prime time. This is going to injure people. Here's why. This is what they've done wrong with it and then silenced. And now when you watch some incredible statements being made by John Kerry just recently and in a World Economic Forum meeting saying that, you know, free speech, the First Amendment, is really a stumbling block, it's really kind of a hindrance to achieving some of the goals that they have. And that democracy, he says, may prove to not be fast enough to handle the issues of our time. Mirroring what John Trudeau had said a couple of years ago up in Canada, how he, you know, really honored China and how quickly they can move because they don't have to deal with a democracy in voting. And just. And this is on the lips of so many people, you've got Tim Waltz saying free speech does not allow for misinformation. Kamala saying the same thing Hillary Clinton is saying she wants to arrest people that spread misinformation online. These are terror. I mean, the fact that we live at a time where that is acceptable speech by anyone, any elected officials in this country just shows, I think, how far we've let this thing slip through our fingertips in the immediate wake of.

The COVID catastrophe, which we all lived and walked out and got on the other side of.

Right. They're still saying, even though we now know I lost my YouTube channel for saying this vaccine is not going to stop transmission. I mean, it doesn't stop transmission now. Everyone in the world knows it. They still won't admit that. They're still. And we now know, as I had a great interview with Brett Weinstein, we know this vaccine after second, the second and going to third shot is actually creating IgG4 antibodies, meaning it's shutting your immune system down. It is weakening the immune system of everybody that they're continuing to give it to, including the children that they want to give it to. Now, starting at six months, that means you have government that is knowingly poisoning and killing you and you've got to ask yourself why? What is it? What is going on and what part of that administration is worth holding on to? I mean, I don't even, I just don't even see how we, we can see that there's a choice. Now. Sure, I wish my other choice was Robert Kennedy Jr. As president, but Donald Trump has reached out and said, Bobby, I want you to look at these. I want to bring you and help me Bill. He's now on the transition team to build the cabinet to replace all of the corrupt, you know, pharma driven, pharma funded money laundering, you know, liars inside of our regulatory agencies. He's bringing in Tulsi Gabbard, one of the most beautiful, heartfelt, powerful military minds. I mean she still, you know, you know, goes out on maneuvers and has troops and you know, sees war as only a last option and is terrified, is terrified that, you know, that the Democrats are going to start World War iii. And then look at, I mean there's just so many things that I think we have to look at here. The fact that they're celebrating Dick Cheney, my dad, my dad, who I've been struggling with, said even Dick Chene, he's leaving Donald Trump for to support Kamala Harris. I was like, that is exactly my point, dad. The party, we were anti war. My parents marched in the 60s and now all of the neocons have moved to the Democratic Party. All the war that's happening, Israel, the Middle East, Ukraine, this is a consciousness. This isn't just happening. This is what they want. This is this the, the world we're living in right now. Destruction, floods in North Carolina, that your average person should be able to figure out how to save those people if you hadn't sent all your money into things that didn't matter, if you weren't distracted by other things. You know, I just think when you look at the world we're in, when you look at a party that's saying we're going to censor you. When you look at a party, when you look at Kamala and Biden, they force vaccinate everyone. I just found this out the other day. Everyone that is working their campaign has to be vaccinated. And so as chiropractors, as any natural health practitioner.

I don't really, you know, the choice seems clear. And one thing I'll say for sure is Donald Trump never censored his opponents, never even attempted to, never went to the media and said shut those people down. It's exactly. Bobby has a Winning case right now with a, with a real stay from a judge saying the Biden administration, the, the, the, you know, when they censored Bobby Kennedy on social media, they described it as one of the greatest attacks on, on the First Amendment that has ever been conducted by an official. This is the statement from the judge. And so I would say on if there's only one issue I was going to vote on would be censorship because there's a reason it's our First Amendment.

Yeah.

And we can, as long as we can disagree and have a conversation, we can fix all the other problems.

Power of public discourse and the spirit of wanting that for, you know, a nation that always wants to land on the best choice. Right. And do the best thing for the people. So Del, you, it was a red thread through that storyline that I'd love to tease on just a little bit because, you know, you, you, you, you. I want to double click on something you said. It was that when you look at it. Right. So because I think there's three groups of people. There's a group of people that are looking at it one way and there's a second group of people that are looking at it a different way and then there's a group of people in the middle that are not looking at it. So let's just assume that there are some people that are just checked out. Right. So yeah, but the word paradigm I think is really probably the red thread here. Right. So when you all the way back to like the way you were raised and the paradigm is the lens through which you look at the world. Right. So yes. Have we have a paradigm as chiropractors that we practice under? Right. So the traditional philosophical chiropractor looks at the world from a vitalistic perspective, you know, versus a mechanistic or fatalistic perspective. Right. So and it's this perspective that changes everything because when you look at something through one lens, that perspective is what informs your impression, your opinion and hopefully your belief system and therefore organizes your behavior so drives your outcomes. So what you're describing, what we share, that you're tapping into as you get to know chiropractors a bit better, more personally and you get spend time with us is like what we share is a paradigm. Right. There's a perspective at the lens through which we look at the world. Right. So maybe nobody's put it in those words to you before, but when you're on the side of like inside out versus outside in, it tells you that, you know, inside out says, hey, our problems come from Inside out, right? They don't come from outside of us, right? So and our solutions come from inside out, right? So whether that we're talking about the body, we're talking about your health, we're talking about government, right? So Outside in says all your problems come from outside of you and the solutions come from outside of you as well, right? So it's a totally different problem solving set of criteria. But when you have an inside out or a vitalistic perspective looking at the body, you look at the body as being intelligent. And it's. Our natural design is to express health. And if you're not experiencing health, it just means that, that there's something that's interfering with the expression of health, right? The intelligence of the body is interfered with, right? So we want to support the body, not control the body. We want to normalize the body, not fix the body, right? So allow the body to do its thing in, you know, the way nature is designed or the way God designed us, right? So that perspective just permeates every part of our lives in, you know, our parenting, the way we find, do our finances, right? So our spiritual walk and the way we run our homes and our, our, in our communities, our businesses, our teams, our government, right? So we want to see that, that perspective come in. So what we share is a paradigm, right? So a way we view everything. And for, you know, the three of us on the line, I know Pete well enough, and I've heard enough of you to know that, you know, when we look at freedom of speech, it's like, well, we believe that people are intelligent, right? And we should put all of the information on the table so that people can make informed decisions. Like, let's have public discourse, let's argue, let's dis, let's disagree, let's agree that, you know, the big idea here is that we come to the right solution for whatever problems that we're facing. But we can only do that if we have all the information on the table. We have to be open to the conversation that brings all of the information and all of the experts together so that we can really wrestle it out and come down to what's the best thing and the best move forward. If we lose that, we lose everything. Like, like you cannot censor information, right? So at the very least, the experts in the spaces should be able to exchange information like all of the experts, right? Not everything has to be decided in a town hall. But we can't have, you can't, you can't have a taboo culture where, oh, you can't talk about that. It's like, we can't talk about that. Like, what intelligent person would ever arrive at the conclusion that, hey, all these intelligent people that might not disagree, not agree on everything can't come together and discuss something. You know, we can't, we can't talk about that. Obviously, science just goes right out the window because that's obviously the fundamental, you know, premise of science is that we, we get to the answer, right? So we look at all, we challenge it, right?

The scientific method. You know, bring your, bring your argument. Let's hear, Bring your best argument against this hypothesis or this, you know, new product or whatever it is. That's how science is designed. When you start saying, no, the challenge is now illegal, you're going to be in a very dangerous place very quickly, as we are. And I mean, I mean, to think about what they consider again, as misinformation on health. I mean, you know, for a fact, most of these drugs that doctors are doling out to people, telling them it's going to make them healthy. It doesn't make them healthy. It's a lie. You know, you look at some of these chemo drugs. I was just talking to a doctor that left mainstream media. I think it was like an Indy Anderson or something, one of these big, big cancer hospitals. Like, once I realized, wait a minute, this drug I'm giving only works for 30% of people, is killing the other 70%. And I was just told them this is their only choice. So, you know, when we think what is truth? And sure. And by the way, we're not trying to say those doctors shouldn't exist or those products shouldn't exist. A free country. I'm not trying to say vaccines.

We should be transparent about everything you just said and say we're on a journey to improve.

That's it.

So, and let's not use expressions like we have no other choice saying like, what are the choices? Could we explore? So I'm going to use that as a, as a gentle pivot and let's zoom in on the chiropractic space. So, Dr. Pete, if I could, you know, so here's, here's my curiosity. So you're, you know, you're an insider. So, you know, we have 70,000 chiropractors just in the United States, right, that take care of 35 million Americans. There's more than a million chiropractic visits, you know, to every, every day in the United States. So a million visits, right? So it's a small industry. It's a 21 billion dollar industry, but 35 million Americans get adjusted, right? So, you know, DC's chiropractors, we enjoy a cultural authority with our patients. So we have an influence and a leadership position in their life that shapes not only their view of their body and their health and healthcare, but really their worldview. You okay? I'm just curious. Is Washington a, are they aware of that? Like do, do they recognize the, the influence that chiropractors have as a thousand points of light around the country taking care of 35 million people and shaping the worldview and the opinions of the families that they take care of?

I would say you would know if they were reaching out to you because it's a pretty big voting block and if they're not calling you and asking for your vote and like really seeing how can we ties around your, you know, population, then they don't know that. They don't know that. And you know, you don't have the lobby to, you know, to compete with pharma that's in every single office, you know, five or six different people every day. I mean, pharma is the most powerful lobby in Washington. It's outspending. I just found this out. I used to say when I gave a speech, outspending oil and gas two to one. I've just heard that it's now five to one that pharma is spending five times the amount of money buying up our government than oil and gas. And we fight wars in the Middle east for that. And I, I think that, my personal belief is that if pharma gets its way, I don't think they want chiropractors in the way. I don't think they want, you know, any other perspective. They are a drug pushing, drug dealer, you know, approach to health. And more and more people are leaving. More and more people. I mean, Covid, you guys rocked it, right? I mean, people couldn't get into a doctor or a hospital because they were so terrified to see anybody. The only people bold enough to stand in a room with this horrifying disease potential was chiropractors. I mean I, I would say greatest.

Growth we've ever experienced across.

If you didn't get rich as a chiropractor during COVID then you're, you don't know what you're doing or you're not.

Telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Something's wrong. Not, I mean, but it was, it certainly was, it was our, is where my family went. You know, we were just so happy that in most cases you guys were able to stay open. What happens if next time you can't stay open? Or what happens if the law says that, you know, your patients aren't allowed to see you unless they're vaccinated? Or what happens if you're not allowed to see your patients if you're not vaccinated? Or what happens which even closer nature paths are now vaccinating in order to go to school. What happens if want to go to school to become a chiropractor you have to vaccinate. I mean, these are the things that are rushed right on this legislature, right? Like this is right there, right? And how far, you know, how much will we compromise? How much will we give up of what we believe in and still feel? I mean, I always think about that with Nazi Germany, right? It doesn't happen overnight. It starts with, well, you're not allowed into this big party, okay? We really prefer you don't go into these stores. You know what, stay on that side of town. In fact, stay inside your house. I mean, and so we just give up more and more ground and chiropractic has worked so hard against, I mean you talk about, you know, a group of people that should just have their eyes on pharma, the attack and you know, and the attempts to take out chiropractic over the years that you guys have stood up against. These aren't your friends. And they're, they're in position through who UN Pharma's looking to have a real control over not just the government of the United States, but, but every government. I mean the WHO is being moved in place as a global dictating, you know, pulpit, if you will, and wants our sovereignty. I really think that this election really is about whether we, I mean, and here's the deal. If you believe in global governance, if you want, if you want like this one world idea where the United States is no longer. Because this is what they said, WEF says that it's advertising. The United States of America will no longer be a ruling authority, authority in the world. Everyone will rent. No one will own anything. I mean, we're not, this is not a conspiracy anymore. They are stating their agenda. And if you agree with that agenda, then most definitely United States, let's, let's take down our borders. Let's give up our sovereignty. Let's give up as, as, as you know, John Kerry puts it, let's go ahead and let go of the, our Constitution and our First Amendment rights and democracy because it's just it's too sloppy to be able to handle all the issues of our time, then definitely Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz are, are your option. That is, that is where that's what they are telling they want. We're talking about global governance. Or if you still believe in having the greatest nation in the world that stands secure in itself, has sovereignty in itself, and sees itself as a leading moral and ethical authority for the world, then I would be looking at the only candidate that is bringing Robert Kennedy Jr. In, bringing in Tulsi Gabbard to help with the, the military cabinet, bringing in Elon Musk to run technologies and AI through the government to find out where's all our money going, who you know, you know how quickly they're going. People are going to get exposed in there. When you let Elon Musk run an AI system through all of our expenses and go, okay, here's where that missing $1 trillion ended up. You know, that's what's going on. And it's really exciting because it's a lot like what Abraham Lincoln did, you know, after the Civil War is put together a team of rivals. This idea of like bringing these people and the way we're watching Donald Trump talk to them and the meetings that are happening, this just isn't that egomaniac I thought he was. This is someone that is looking to really build a transformational team that I think is going to disrupt the course of this global, globalist, you know, agenda that's currently in our Government. Government.

So, Dr. Beat, I'm going to let you close us out, but I just want to just, I want to quote Bobby, something that you said, Dell. I heard you say it in Florida. I've heard Bobby say it before. As we come to this moment where we need to make decisions around what direction we're going to head. You know, you, you're voting matters, right? So it matters a lot. Chiropractors, you have a lot of influence with your people. I don't want you to get sucked into political conversations and discourse. Course, it's just too polarizing for your practice. Like, don't be politically polarizing, but do stand on the policies, just talk about the policies because it will inform the candidate, right? So which way to be voting? At the end of the day, Bobby said it best. He's like, we just have to decide that we love our children more than we hate each other, right? So, yeah, the idea of like being divisive and voting against one or another, we. We just have to focus on the policies, policies as chiropractors and recognize that there's so much at stake here and decide where you stand and take a stand on the policies and be vocal about it and encourage your people to be vocal.

So I want to just close us with this. Odell, first of all, thank you for again taking the time to be here and sharing all of that. So powerful. This is actually something that we just had a conference this past weekend. I was really, I was reflecting on this. But, but it, but I want to end with this. This is, it's a, it's about what I, what I felt strongly to share with our group of chiropractors that were with us this past weekend in Denver was how we need to have courage. And I just said, hey, we need, this is a call to, for courage. And, you know, you got to be able to see beyond just taking care of yourself at this point and just saying, hey, I just want to make a good living, provide for my family. It's like, hey, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm, I'm a big believer in that. But I said, you know what? You've got to be willing as a human being to have courage. And I believe chiropractors already, as you're listening to this, you already swim upstream. You are already counterculture. You've already said, I'm going to put a stake. I'm going to hammer it into the ground and put up a sign that basically says, hey, there's another way. There's a better way to better health. And right now, at this point in history, we have to continue to say this is a call to courage. And as a chiropractor, you have a role to inform the people who are in your community that are coming into your office to tell them the truth. You have a responsibility. We give people hope and we give them responsibility. And do you have a responsibility as a chiropractor? Do you do to do that? It's not because it feels good. And we talked about how attraction is the not a matter of feeling, it's a matter of function. And I believe courage is what's needed, a call to courage. And I love how in the Bible it talks about how courage is, has nothing to do with comfort, but it's about taking action. It's about somebody who's responding as a. A willingness to act in an obedience to do what's right. That's what it's about. It's about doing the right thing and praying to God for strength and guidance to do what's right, right in spite of fear, in spite of opposition, in spite of danger. And so I just want to again thank you for being a man of courage. I thank you for, for the courage that you have every day to continue to move forward. And I'm going to encourage everyone who's listening to the other side. I'm going to call you to courage and look in your own heart. Take some time to think about, you know, what, where can I be, where can I contribute? What's a way that myself, my local team here in our local office in our small town somewhere in America or wherever you're listening, maybe around the world, because I know we have people outside of this nation that are listening to this. But where is there an opportunity for you to raise up and take another level of courage? I'm asking myself the same question and I encourage you to do so as well. Dell, thank you for taking your time to be with us here today. Dr. Stephen, I don't know if you have anything else.

Oh, yeah. So thank you so much. We're going to put a link in the show notes here below, but I want to give you an opportunity to say where people can reach out and learn more, how they can support and take action. But you know, at the end of the day, for us just, you know, for us to be able to offer up our platform, you know, we know the risks involved, you know the risks of your platform, but, you know, this is bigger than any of us. And I just really appreciate you from the bottom of my heart for just helping us help more people. Help more people. Right? So in the spirit of making America healthy again, thanks for all you do, Dale.

Thank you so much. I just want to say, you know, we have a real opportunity to put one of our own in a position of power in the medical industry over our regulatory agencies. Can you imagine if chiropractic was able to have some double blind studies done through the NIH and start, you know, having government funding to prove how brilliant it is instead of trying to take it down? That's what sits in the future. That's what I'm dreaming about right now. I left the campaign just a month ago to start a super pack pack to run advertising. I've been doing all the ads, everything for the Kennedy campaign, but we can't. There's legalities to being able to talk about Donald Trump and how much money we could raise. So I started a super pack called Maha Alliance. So people want to look into what we're doing. If you want to be a sponsor, you know, I know you don't want to talk your patients, but I can. I can tell stories of patients. In fact, we're working on a commercial right now. Chiropractors to Make America Healthy Again. I want to start bringing in what you guys do as a part of this conversation to make America healthy again. So check out mahaalliance.com if you want more information on the work that I'm doing right now.

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