EP 167 WTH?!?: The Science of Hydrogen Water with Paul Barattiero

Hey, welcome back, everybody. I'm Dr. Greg Eckel and this is what the health. Our title of the talk today is what's Hydrogen? Hydrogen got to do with it? Like what's love got to do with it?

I love it.

The role of hydrogen water in gut, brain sleep, energy fatigue and immune function. I got Dr. Paul here, he's a naturopathic doc and hydrogen water expert. We've had him on the show before. We wanted to come back and revisit and re energize around this whole concept. So, Dr. Paul, what does hydrogen got to do with it?

It's got everything to do with it. Well, you know, hydrogen really primarily reduces oxidative stress, chronic inflammation. It can change brain function, neurologic function, mitochondrial function, fatigue, sleep. I mean there's so many things that it affects. It really is amazing.

You know, you've shared a ton of research with us, my providers and our audience here at what the health before. But how did you get interested or even become aware of hydrogen gas?

Many, oh gosh, almost 20 years ago now. But 2005 is when I became aware and it took me about a year and a half to figure out that hydrogen was responsible for the benefits. But it really was having to do with my wife. My wife, We've been married 30 years. This month it'll be our 30 year anniversary.

Congratulations.

Thank you. And she was sick the first 10 years of our marriage. So I was looking for anything possible that could help her. And so water with hydrogen in it was what helped her. I didn't know immediately that it was hydrogen gas in the water, but about a year and a half into it, I did figure that out. And then by 2009 I was lecturing on hydrogen gas and everyone thought I was crazy.

But 2009, right. So you're seeing, you've seen a lot more research come out on that and it seems like, you know, it is kind of a buzz, hydrogen being part of the H2O molecule. Water. What tipped you off? Like, how did you know to use this with your wife?

So I had some friends who had an organic food store and 911 had just happened a little bit before that. And they were trying to stay afloat. Quite honestly, they had lost half their revenue because people weren't coming to Disney World. And that's where half their revenue came from, is people buying organic food for their condos when they were visiting. So they were looking for ways and they found this at the time, alkaline water machine. And they were telling me, oh my gosh, it's changing everyone's lives. We got, we're selling 200 gallons a day of water out of these machines. And I'm like, well, I don't agree that it's the pH of the water. However, I don't know what it is. I don't know what the mechanism of healing is, but it's doing something because it helped my wife. And so I kind of got involved in the industry promoting the alkaline machines. This was way back, like I said, Almost 20 years ago now, but we were selling thousands of machines a month in the 40 countries in the world. And I kept seeing the bubbles of the bubbles in the water and I thought, it's got to be hydrogen. It's got to be hydrogen. Well, if we were smart, which many times we're not as human beings, we kind of forget stuff. In the year 1800, Anthony Carlisle, Dr. Carlisle, discovered water electrolysis. And it was because he was wanting to harvest hydrogen gas. So this is where I'm like, huh? This is, this has got to be the mechanism. And so then I, I found a study that showed it was hydrogen gas. And that once I turned my attention to studying hydrogen, I found all kinds of stuff from World War II and gunshot wounds to, you know, back to 1950 when Japan did human trials for 15 year human trials. And so I just didn't know what I was looking for at first. And once I figured out and focused my attention on hydrogen, it was like, whoa, there is some information.

Yeah, that is, you know, more and more. So what are the things, you know, is it safe for everybody?

It's, yeah, completely safe. Of the 1350 studies we have so far, there's no contraindications, there's no demographic, there's no age group, there's no any group that shouldn't have it. And that, and that should be common sense or makes sense to us because our bodies are designed to produce hydrogen gas naturally. So if it was harmful to anybody, that would be a problem.

Yeah, that's for sure. A lot of hydrogen out there. What, like, what have you seen? Like, in what cases have you been just like a head scratcher? Like, wow, I didn't realize it was going to work for that.

Well, I'll share some funny things. How about that? Because I've been doing this a long time. I was the first one to start really educating with hydrogen. And I would do stuff like we would go to events and give people water. And this one time a guy came over and he's like, my wife hasn't been like that since our honeymoon. Like, what is in the water? That my wife was, you know, wanting marital relations, like she hasn't in many years. And I'm like, don't know, maybe she's chronically dehydrated and now she's got energy, I don't know. But later, I did actually find a mouse study that showed that it increased sexual drive. So that's, that's a cool one. And then innate immune function in, in lion, like, what's it called? Lionfish. So, I mean, it's, it's. There's interesting, interesting stuff that you can find. But again, the most interesting thing I've ever seen with my own eyes is people with tremors and within 10 minutes of drinking the water, their hand can be still and they're like telling me, I feel tingling in my brain, what's going on? And so that's an awesome, beautiful thing to observe.

That is, you know, one of the main reasons why we have this in our lobby here at Energy for life centers. And we're to put the, the link below if you're curious and, or wanting to try, which I would encourage folks to give it a go. It is something that I've been drinking now for 18 months on a day, every working day basis. And I'm noticing, you know, it is helping on structure water in my body and energy fields. Having, you know, one adequate hydration has been one of the, the top recommendations that I've made for over 24 years of seeing patients of having adequate hydration. And then you put a hydrogen level in there. Now what's the difference between your devices and just hydrogen tablets?

So the tablets are the most expensive way to make hydrogen water. It's extremely expensive and it's unnecessary. There is no benefit to getting it through tablet. It's far better to get it in a bott that you pay for one time and you use for years to come, rather than having to pay 50 bucks to 100 bucks a month for tablets. So that's one thing. The other thing is a lot of people do not like the taste of the water when you make it with tablets because there's a pretty strong magnesium taste and not everybody likes that. Also, there are some individuals that have bowel issues after using the tablets to create the water. So there's a number of reasons why, why people don't like it.

And how long does the hydrogen stay in suspension in these two different ways.

Of delivery, it would be the same. I mean, having a gas stay in water is gonna last up to two Hours in a, you know, if you have just a glass that's open to the atmosphere, you're gonna lose the gas in a couple hours. If you have it in a bottle with a lid and you fill it up all the way, then you lose typically 0.1 parts per million per day. It's not exact science, but that's a round estimate. Yeah.

Okay, so it can, like you're talking about the echo go that, that vehicle or any bottle, you could get it from your, your stationary. Like the one that we have in the lobby is the, the unit that you put on top of the counter and has the, the.

Yeah. You would just pour it in a bottle of some kind that has a lid.

Yeah.

Fill it up all the way with no airspace and then close the lid.

Yeah.

Last for days.

Got it. And what, what does some of the science show, like, how is this working for us?

Again? Most disease, the leading cause of disease is the combination of oxidative stress and chronic inflammation. So hydrogen reduces oxidative stress and chronic inflammation, which is the leading cause of disease. So that's really where you see modification and disease models. You know, doesn't matter every disease, if the cause of disease is oxidative stress and chronic inflammation and hydrogen reduces those things, then you're going to have less occurrence of disease models. We don't go after any one disease because there's hundreds of diseases that are showing to have benefits. But one of the big ones that's in our country is diabetes. And it's pretty quick. Within, you know, one to three days, five days max, people see differences in their blood glucose levels. There are 62 studies on diabetes. You have studies on Parkinson's, around 22 on Parkinson's, for example. And, and this shows great benefits with Parkinson's. There are many disease models. There's 117 on cancer there. I mean, just on and on it goes. So again, it's not disease specific, it's the cause of disease. Hydrogen reduces the cause of disease. And so that's a great thing. It also helps digestion and gut issues. That's a big one that people that have Crohn's and people that have IBS and people that have all kinds of gut related issues. You can be helped hugely because hydrogen is, can stabilize or normalize the gut so that you can eat whatever food you want to without having all these food allergies and stuff.

How about with, have you seen any research on mitochondria and mitochondria health?

Yes, yes, absolutely. And we see increase in energy we see lower recovery times and lower fatigue with athletes, but then, of course, just everyone. And then hydroxyl radicals that are one of the most cytotoxic oxygen radicals that are in the mitochondrial respiratory chain, hydrogen has an effect on reducing those. And so that's a beautiful thing as well. You don't have the disruption producing ATP.

Yeah. So that's, you know, I think on that reactive oxidative species and free radical production in the system. Having this, it's almost as. It's a potent antioxidant. It's going through and clearing those free radicals out of the system.

Yeah. And one of the best studies that kind of woke everybody up was in 2008 and 2009, Nature Medicine published a study how hydrogen was a selective antioxidant. And what it meant by selective was that it only reached and reacted with cytotoxic oxygen radicals. It did not react with radicals that had a physiological role. And so it's really beautiful science.

Oh, that's really interesting. I would love that white paper over here and that research. Yeah, I love it. I love it. What else do we need to know about hydrogen water?

It's something everyone should be drinking. There are so many pesticides, pharmaceuticals, heavy metals, stress and life. Most everyone has a gut that is not functioning optimally. And I'm being very kind. I think 97% of the population have some dysfunction of gut. Pretty serious. And so hydrogen water can help that. If we get hydrogen into the body, it can work to aid the body in repairing the gut so that you can eat the foods, have energy, not have anxiety and depression that comes from having the wrong bacteria. It can restore the electrical potential so that the good bacteria have an environment to grow and a biome. And so that's beautiful science as well. And there are many studies on, you know, the intestinal tract.

Will you share some of those? I was hoping we'd get into some of those, you know, electrical gradients and voltages of the bowel of the cell. What. How this adds into that discussion.

Sure would be happy to. So if we look at the gut, the tissue in the lining of the gut, there's what's called a electrical potential. It's not like you have electrical voltage in your. In your lining of your intestinal tract, but there is a. What's called a potential energy and bacteria, they either want a positive or a negative electrical potential. And so for anaerobic microflora, which are considered the healthy bacteria or the appropriate bacteria for our gut, that should make up, you know, up to 96% of the bacteria in the gut, 96 to 99, you know, it should be the majority. Those anaerobes, those strict anaerobes require a negative 300, negative 400 millivolts of electrical potential negative. And that's what hydrogen helps to restore. And so it literally changes the biome, the terrain rapidly.

That's really, you know, more and more as I've stated. You know, the future of medicine is in frequency. And we need these vessels to be massive receptors and having that electrical gradient in our energy beings charged up. This is one of the best ways that I've seen to help people get their battery recharged through the hydration, through those differentials, the electrical gradients with the exclusionary zone water around our cells and then between the organs and the connective tissue. We need this to be positively charged and or electrically ready to receive. You know, if we're going to get the frequencies, which we understand, you know, more from technology, but you know, we have those supercomputers walking around in our, our pockets, that frequency carrying information. It's the same thing here. It's frequency forming matter and informing matter. And this piece is a missing puzzle for a lot of folks. They're taking supplements, they're doing diet, they're doing mindfulness. But their gradient is not proper in the system to have it stick, to have it set up shop. And so again, why I put it in the lobby of our centers is it's one of the fastest routes to help people get there. Right. So I appreciate you, you know, creating these. I'm wondering if you want to speak a little bit more about the hydrogen water. You have to go vessels for on the road and then you also have at home or in the office. Are they also water filters? People always ask us that, yes.

So the bottles are not the Echo Go and the Echo Go plus they are portable, battery rechargeable, battery operated units. You have to put pure water or filtered water into those devices. That's designed for when you're on the go, obviously we call it Echo Go because you get a hydrogen water on the go. So then we have whole house filtration, very robust. We have reverse osmosis to really get the cleanest drinking water you could get. And then we have three machines. So one of them is designed to go with the ro. The other two have filtration built into them and those can be countertop or under sink. And that's called the Echo H2 machine or the Echo Ultimate. The Echo H2 machine is what you have in your facility. It has an excellent filter that removes heavy metals, pesticides, pharmaceuticals, all that, the nasty stuff you would want out of your water. And then it puts hydrogen gas dissolved into the water. So it's a perfect unit to have in a home or clinic. It can go under sink if you get the faucet from us, and otherwise it can go on top of the counter. But those do have filters. The two machines have filters. We also have the whole house filter and the reverse osmosis. So we really have a full line of filtration.

I love it. And you, you can also put frequencies into the water as well.

We, we paused that program. We used to have that program and we paused it. Okay. However, we, we may bring a version of that back or we may make it available to machine, not just our machine, but to other companies as well. So fair enough toying with that. So.

All right, great.

Cool.

Well, excellent. So it has some future capabilities that we may expand upon. Is there anything else that you'd like to share with our listeners and viewers before we part ways today?

No, I just, I really think people should investigate. Try, you know, try it. You'll like it. Right?

Yes.

But the reality is we have, we're, we're now selling between 20 and 25, 000 of those Echo Go plus bottles a month. And people are just loving them. They are feeling better, they're enjoying it. They're. Then they come and buy two more for family members and then they get a machine because they're like, I, we just had a lady from, from Europe. I just saw a message from her, you know, 20 minutes ago, half an hour ago, where she said, hey, we got the Google plus and it's amazing. However, we all wake up in the morning and we form a line, we're waiting the, the minutes for it to work. And she goes, we're ready to get a machine. What machine do you recommend? Because we're just ready to fill a glass up and boom, done.

We don't get going.

So anyways, you know, but I would say at least start with the Echo Go or Echo Go plus either one of them is going to give you base water that's going to bless your life and change your function on a daily basis. One of the big things people say is the first night their sleep is different, their dreams are different. They can remember the dreams. They have dreams. And so just try it. You have 30 days to return it. And trust me, we don't get them back. But you have 30 days. If you don't like it for any reason, but get an Echo Go or an echo go plus, at least to start.

Awesome. Well, Dr. Paul, thank you. Always a pleasure to have you. On what the Health folks. You heard it from Dr. Paul. Go get your Echo Go. You know, we do have it in our lobbies. We are seeing the benefits for our patients. That's why I've got him on the show. I just wanted to share that with you all. It's something that I drink every day of the work week, and so my staff gets it. Patients that come into the centers are also drinking that water. We're firm believers in it. Thank you for creating an awesome product, Paul and everybody out there. We will see you next time on what THE health.

Thank you.