Biological Dentistry: A New Perspective on Mercury Safety

Hi everybody, I'm Dr. Sanda Moldovan, periodontist and nutritionist. Welcome to the Holistic Dentistry Podcast, the show that gives you the tips and tools to detoxify your mouth for a healthier body as we explore together the root cause of disease. Remember, you're not healthy until your mouth is healthy, so take care of it in the most natural way.

Welcome to today's show on the Holistic Dentistry Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Sanda Moldovanovanovanovanova. I'm so excited today to talk to Dr. Blanche Grube, or Gruber, as otherwise known in Germany. Dr. Grube has made such significant advances and changes in biological dentistry and really upholding the teachings of Dr. Hal Huggins. A lot of you might be familiar to the Hal Huggins protocol. Also, another way I know Dr. Gruby is because I am using the DNA Connections Lab for every single one of my cavitations or root canals that I take out to validate the microbes that are in there just to help treat the patient better. So I'm super, super excited, Dr. Gruby, to have you with us. Welcome to our show.

Well, thank you. I'm, I'm quite honored. Dr. Sanda Moldovan, I really— and, and I love talking about biological dentistry, and I love talking about all the things that I learned from Dr. Hal Huggins.

You know, he's, he's been gone since 2014 now, and, uh, you know, I never got a chance to meet him, and I, I wish I would have, you know, because I, I got into the whole world of the holistic dentistry, I want to say, through functional medicine. That's the first time I heard about Cavitation. I finished perio residency at UCLA and I never ever heard about cavitation. So I had to go to functional medicine. So by the time I got around to learning all this, Dr. Hal Huggins, you know, was not around. So did you meet and run across holistic dentistry?

Well, I, we had, I have to say we, because my husband is a chiropractor and I was the dentist and we worked in the same office and had many of our patients were mutual patients. They were both my patients and his. So we had an interesting situation where I had a woman who I was treating, putting in amalgam mercury fillings, and she was also being treated by my husband as a chiropractor with the hopes of improving her body function and being able to get rid of her chronic fatigue. Well, the more she saw me, the more fillings I put in, the worse her chronic fatigue got. And so it's just kind of an interesting triangle there if you think about it. My husband took a course where it talked about energy and electricity in teeth. Well, he came home all excited. He said, "Hey, Blanche," he says, "Did you know that there's electricity coming out of fillings?" Oh yeah, sure, John. I know all about galvanic response and it's a dynamic event and it moves and it changes from moment to moment, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was not impressed. Well, this one patient comes into the office And John does some muscle testing on her. And before he does the muscle testing, he removes the electricity in her mouth. In the old days— now I know I'm really aging myself— in the old days, when you had a record album that you really liked, you did not want to scratch it and you wanted it to play well. So you use something called a clicker gun. It was something that spit out electrons and you would click the album and then wipe it with a felt cloth. Now you had no static electricity whatsoever on this album and you could play it. Like for instance, the famous Beatle White Album. That was a collector's item. Yeah, you would never want to get that scratched. So he came home from this course with a clicker gun and I looked at this as if it was an antique. I said, "Oh, I remember that. Sure, the old clicker gun." He said, "Well, watch this." He said, "When you click the mouth, you remove the electricity in the mouth." And he says, then when I do the muscle testing, the muscle testing is much more accurate. Wow, that, that was interesting. So this woman, Sue, comes into the office, he does the clicker gun thing in her mouth, does the muscle testing, and lo and behold, the answers that he got pointed to her mouth. In other words, what was causing the chronic fatigue? What? He could never figure it out until he clicked her mouth, did the muscle testing, and all fingers pointed to the mouth. So it had to have been her fillings that was causing the chronic fatigue. That really was the breakthrough in our office.

Amazing.

Amazing. And so I was blown away. I didn't know what to do with this information, but she took it upon herself to research it, came back the next day with an article. About mercury and its effects on the whole body. And it was written by a medical doctor who used to work for Hal Huggins. Again, I was blown away. I said, wait a minute, there's not a single dentist contributing to this article. There are physiologists, microbiologists, psychologists, neurologists, you name it, every specialty in medicine. Not a single dentist had contributed to that article. So I get on my phone, call Dr. Hal Huggins, and I said, "Hey, I want to learn about mercury toxicity." He says, "Wonderful, you have to come out to Colorado." "Huh, okay." I went out to Colorado, and that's when I found out Dr. Hal Huggins had a habit of drawing blood, several vials of blood, from every dentist as they walked into the class.

Wow, because we're also toxic.

We're also toxic. So he took several vials of blood. Then you got to pick out your seat, sit down, and he began to teach about mercury toxicity and how it affected every single part of your body. There was no getting around it. He literally just blew our brains off with all this information about mercury toxicity. And on the fourth day, he tells us that our blood tests are coming back from Colorado Springs General Hospital. I was the only woman in the class. He said, I'm going to tell you guys just how sick you all are. Okay. Now, my blood chemistry came up and he said, whose blood is this? Obviously it's mine. I'm the only woman in the class. He says, well, how long have you had cancer, Blanche? Excuse me? 'Where do you see that?' He said, 'Well, they circled it in red. They wanted you to notice it.' 'Oh, okay.' And they did. They circled it in red, but I had no idea what I was looking at. I said, 'Well, okay, it says 1%.' He said, 'Yes, that's 1% metastatic cells.' I said, 'Well, that's a low number.' He said, 'Yes, it is.' He said, '1% metastatic cells, you're sick. 2%, you're in the hospital. And 3%, you're dead.' Oh wow. He said, so how long have you had leukemia? Oh my gosh, I didn't— I didn't know. Remember, we were talking about mercury for 3 days. Mercury, mercury, mercury, nothing else. Then suddenly he said, Blanche, just how many root canals do you have in your head? And I thought, wait a minute, how does this man know I have root canals? I just met him. How does he know? How do you know I have root canals? He said, well, you have cancer. And he said, and I've actually never met anybody with cancer who did not either have a root canal or a cavitation in their head. And I had no idea how profound that sentence was at that time. Because later on he did ask us in a class when we, we had an advanced class on root canals, he asked us to look and look and see if we could find anybody with breast cancer that did not have a root canal or cavitation. And over 40 years I've been practicing, guess what? Never found that person.

Wow.

So that's interesting. Does that mean that everybody who has a root canal has cancer? No, not yet. But everyone with cancer has a root canal or a cavitation. Now, for those listeners who are thinking, what the heck is a cavitation? A cavitation is a hole in the bone marrow. In the jaw. It can be the upper jaw, it can be the lower jaw. It's a hole, usually 95% of the time, where a tooth was taken out, but the socket never really healed. Part of it healed, the rest of it did not heal. And so the microorganisms and the bacteria inside these holes are no different than the microorganisms that we find in root canals. They're all anaerobic, meaning non-air-breathing bacteria. We have two kinds of bacteria in, in our world: air-breathing and non-air-breathing. The air-breathing bacteria, for the most part, they're not so bad. I mean, you don't want to have too many of them, but they're not so bad. The anaerobic or non-air-breathing bacteria are usually the ones that are most toxic. You don't want a lot of E. coli in your jaw or in your mouth or in your intestines. One or two, maybe, okay, but a lot? No, you don't want that. So it's the anaerobic bacteria that are really the troublemakers. All right? So this—

It's like I actually find E. coli sometimes in cavitations.

Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Isn't that amazing? So I'm gonna switch gears a little bit now and tell you a little story about DNA connections. Well, Dr. Hal Huggins found it necessary to, to find some way to justify dentists removing root canal teeth. Now, prior to the laboratory, he called it dental DNA at that time, prior to the laboratory, we used to send samples of either root canal teeth or the fluid around a tooth that's still in somebody's head. We used to send samples to the University of Kentucky where Dr. Boyd Haley and his team would test those root canal teeth or would test the fluid next to those teeth and tell us if they were toxic. But what was his definition of toxic? His definition of toxic was that these toxic chemicals were destroyers of enzymes in the body. Now, what a lot of people, everyday laypeople, don't understand, don't know, don't live with is the fact that enzymes are necessary for almost every single reaction in the body. Simple things like we breathe in oxygen and we breathe out carbon dioxide. You need enzymes for that. You blink your eye because somebody's about to poke you with a finger. You need enzymes for that. Without the enzymes, your eye would close so slowly, you would be hurt. So if everything in the body— that what the body does, every single chemical reaction requires an enzyme. So this was very interesting because what he was telling us was that the toxins that come out of root canals destroy the enzymes. So you're tired, you don't move as fast as you would like to move, you don't digest your food. You don't produce the chemicals that you need to produce to be able to think straight. There are a lot of things you cannot do quite as fast or quite as efficiently without those enzymes, which is why when we used to, in the old days, when we removed a root canal and we sent it to the University of Kentucky and they would tell us, "Oh my gosh, that was such a toxic tooth." Well, we didn't even need to tell the patient it was a toxic tooth. We knew it was toxic because the patient came back the next day and said, "Oh my gosh, I can't believe I had so much surgery yesterday in your office and I feel terrific." Yeah, I hear that a lot as well. Yeah, there's a release. The body says, "Oh my gosh, we can function now." Even after you've just, you know, given Novocaine and done surgery and put stitches in and there's a little bit of swelling and all that nonsense. The patient the next day feels wonderful.

Okay.

So Dr. Huggins, we were all using the test at the University of Kentucky. And then all of a sudden one day I get a phone call from Dr. Boyd Haley and he says, Blanche, he says, I just wanted you to be the first one to know we're closing the lab. Oh my gosh. What do you mean?

Oh, that's terrible. Yeah.

Why are you closing the lab? He said, well, we're closing the lab because we're a university. And universities are always looking for new information. He said, "We've been doing these tests for 10 years, and guess what? There's nothing new. All root canals are toxic." I'll say that again. All root canals are toxic. Every single sample that was sent to Dr. Boyd Haley from across the country, over 400 at that time biological dentists, We're sending samples. Every single one came back toxic.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

Looking at Blanche, like, were these teeth black already? You know, a lot of looking at— or were they just even normal white color and they were still—

it all depends on how toxic they were. The more— the blacker the tooth, the more toxic it is, that's for sure. But it all depends. Sometimes they just turn yellow, kind of. You look at— sometimes people have a funny gray look to their front tooth. Yes, you may not even have a root canal, but that tooth is a dead tooth. Okay, so I mean, I forget how we started this conversation. We're talking about me getting— yeah, we went from me getting introduced to biological dentistry, finding out about me having cancer. It took me such a shocking news, shocking news. It took me several months to accept the fact that I might have to have 5 root canal teeth taken out. So I always sympathize with my patients, and I can, I can feel their pain. I didn't want to— I did not want to lose any teeth. No, not at all. So it took me several months. Finally, I bit the bullet, no pun intended, and I said, you know what, I'm gonna do this. And that's when I got the courage to tell my husband that I had leukemia and that I was gonna have my 18 mercury fillings removed and 5 root canal teeth removed. And so I put myself as a patient in the Huggins Clinic in Colorado Springs. And the moment the one, just one quadrant of mercury fillings were removed, just one quadrant. In those days, we didn't have conscious sedation. They didn't do all four quadrants or, you know, go across the midline. They couldn't do any of that stuff. They only did one section at a time. So they did my upper left-hand section, and I was very happy. I went to bed in the hotel room in Colorado Springs, and I woke up the next a different, the next day, a different person. Woke up a totally different person because my whole life I had this droning effect in my head. I couldn't read, I couldn't complete a sentence without going back to the beginning. I couldn't read a paragraph with any comprehension. I'm sorry to say that's one of the reasons I went into dentistry because I asked the dentist, I asked the dentist, he said, "You know, you should become a dentist. You really love dentistry." And I said, "Ira, I have to tell you a secret." He said, "What's the secret?" I said, "I can't read." And then he thought about it for half a minute and he said, "Really? That's okay, dentists don't read." And he was right. I often will tell somebody, you know, "Hey, did you read that paper?" And they go, "What?" Exactly, that's so true.

Most dentists don't read papers.

They don't read papers, no. So I woke up the next morning after one quadrant was removed And my brain fog was gone. And I could read for the first time. I was 42 years old and I could read for the first time in my life. And now I'm a bookaholic, serious, quite serious bookaholic.

What is this protocol like for removing mercury? Is it what it is on the Smart Certification today for IOMT?

No, it's a little different than what we're doing today. Today's certification, the SMART certification from IAOMT and the Protect certification from IABDM, both of them are designed to protect the patient, the dentist, and the staff while removing mercury amalgam fillings. I have to include also protect the environment because we have amalgam separators and all of that before that water goes into the sewer system. It's filtered. So it's all about protection. Dr. Huggins was not focused on that. Dr. Huggins was always focused on the immune system, protecting the immune system, because all of his patients were very sick. They came to him as the last straw. They had already been to 10 different doctors, including psychologists, and told it was all in their head and they were crazy. He knew he was the last straw. So he wanted to do everything he could possibly do to remove the mercury and not put more stress on the immune system. Because you can sit down and do a lot of work for somebody in one day, but if you disregard a lot of the rules that pertain to the immune system, that patient is going to be wiped out. And he used to use the expression, they're going to go from the frying pan to the fire. And he was right. Like many dentists, most dentists don't know that a patient without sedation can only handle 2 hours in a dental chair. Interesting. Yeah, the adrenal glands are designed and have about enough capacity for 2 hours of stress. After that, they go downhill fast. So in the old days, we had the 2-hour rule. You could not do more than 2 hours worth of dentistry. I mean, if you had to squeeze out another 15 minutes to take out a root tip, okay, you could do that, but 2 hours was your limit. And then, then you went to a different quadrant on a different day. Well, what was that all about? Hal Huggins was the only one who was talking about the immune system cycle. And what that said was that your average white blood cell lives approximately 7 days. So that means every 7 days, the white blood cells who are beat up on a day are at their all-time low. And in the old days, dentists always gave patients the same appointment on the same day because that was when the patient had the day off.

Well, you—

that was probably the worst thing you could do to somebody, give them an appointment every Monday. Yes, they'll remember their appointment, but every Monday their white blood cells, their Monday white blood cells, are at an all-time low. And the Monday white blood cells are not the same as your Tuesday white blood cells or your Wednesday white blood cells. This whole subject fascinated me. Absolutely fascinated me. Because Hal Huggins would ask us, "What is your immune day?" And there are many people who have chronic problems who know for a fact. For me, it was Monday. Every Monday I would wake up and I would want to go right back to bed. And it wasn't because it was Monday and it was the beginning of the week. I just felt awful on Mondays. And some people can trace their immune day for years. Well, somewhere prior to that day on a Monday, I must have had some traumatic event, either a surgery or a car accident or fell down the stairs, something. I don't remember what it was, but something happened to me on a Monday, and after that for, for years, I was wiped out on Mondays. Okay, so then I looked into this further and further and found out, yeah, we are on many different cycles. Of course, every woman knows she's on a 28-day cycle, but men are on cycles also. We have all kinds of cycles in our body. Our immune system is on pretty much a 7-day cycle. So if you gave somebody an appointment on a Monday, you would never give them another appointment the following Monday. Interesting.

Yeah, very. Nothing we learned about in school.

Nothing we learned about in school. So in the old days when we didn't have sedation, we would have to schedule the patient Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 3 different days, and then the following week we'd have to give them Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday in order to finish them up. And not violate the 7-day immune cycle rule. I mean, it was just— there was a lot to it. And then when sedation came, oh, that kind of made everything so much easier.

Oh yeah.

Because with sedation, you can work on the body for more than 2 hours. The patient wakes up, they feel just fine. They don't feel like they got hit by a truck. As a matter of fact, they feel better than they did before with sedation. So again, when Hal Huggins was developing the Huggins Protocol, it was very different than what it is now. It was more about protecting the immune system. We would never cross the midline, do a filling on the right side and then do a filling on the left side the same day.

Okay, why is that?

Yeah, because the meridians on the right side of the body tend to balance the meridians on the left side of the body and vice versa. So it's an interesting fact, and most people know this in dentistry, that if a person gets a cavity on the mesial or the front side of tooth number 3, they're also going to have a cavity on the mesial, the front side of tooth number 14. Especially in kids, you really see it. They got a cavity on one side, they got the identical cavity on the other side. Okay.

Yeah, I have definitely seen that for sure.

Right. So you wonder why is the body— the body tries to balance itself out, but very often it cannot. And so you don't want to violate again the immune system by working on the right side and the left side the same day. Give the body a break, give it a chance to heal itself before you go in and go hog wild, you know, taking out fillings. And the biggest discovery that Hal made, he made quite by accident, was that every tooth has— he found out that every tooth has an electrical charge And that if you remove the fillings with the highest negative charge first, the patients did very well. If you went in there haphazardly and just removed whatever filling you thought you were going to remove and it turned out to be a positively charged filling, patient actually felt worse that night and the next day. Yeah. And then—

so did you actually measure the fillings?

Yes, we measured all of the silver fillings prior to the patient having any work done. And, and we had— we used to be called, and it's still called, the Ritter meter. Ritter meter is, is an ohmmeter, and you would measure the amount of electricity coming out of a tooth. The higher the negative charge, because they would go from, say, -20, -100, all the way up to +20. Positive 100, positive 150. And that's when you knew you better remove the negative charge filling first because that, that filling with the highest negative charge is the one that's releasing the most mercury. Okay, so think about that.

This reminds me of Jerry Tennant's voltage meter. Was it kind of similar to that, or—

His was just a voltage meter. Yeah, this ours was, is an ohmmeter. So ours measures resistance. Yeah, with his kind of a similar thing. And he knew Hal Huggins also, so they all work together on this stuff. But it's really quite fascinating. And Hal found that out by accident. He took out a filling on a friend of his, and that friend's heart rate went up to 225 beats per minute that night. Wow. And they had to rush him to the hospital. And, you know, Hal said, gee, I don't know if I want to work on you again. And his friend grabbed him by the shirt, you know, kind of like wanted to grab him by the neck and said, "No, quite the contrary. I want you to take out the next filling right away." Well, he took out the next filling right away and his heart rate went up to 225 again. And that was— Hal said, "That's it. I'm not working on you anymore." And his friend grabbed him again and said, "No, quite the contrary. We're going right now to the office." 'Right this minute, we're going to the office and you're gonna take out that last third filling.' And Dan Howell's thinking, 'Oh my God, what am I gonna do? This guy's heart rate's gonna go up to 500. He's gonna die. I'm gonna lose my license. What am I gonna do here?' And he had no choice. He went ahead and took out that filling and then held his breath, and his friend said, 'Thank you.' That was the filling with the highest negative charge. He took it out last because he didn't know. And it was after that that he started looking at electricity in teeth and trying to figure out why do some teeth have higher charges than others. So very few dentists still use the Rita Meter beside me and maybe a handful of others to— and go to the filling with the highest negative charge first. The patient will do much better.

It makes total sense. And where do you even get a Rita Meter?

Actually, we still sell them, believe it or not, in Colorado Springs. Yeah, we sell them through Huggins Applied Healing in Colorado Springs. We still sell Rita Meters. So I know there are dentists out there who are still using them.

It makes perfect sense. I mean, our whole body is energetic. It makes sense to have balance when we do treatments, right?

And it's interesting, if you test a tooth, even a tooth that doesn't have a mercury filling and you get a very high, high negative reading, it usually means there's something going on with that tooth. So it's kind of a little bit of a diagnostic aid. It tells you something's going on. So those are the kind of differences that we had. Gosh, when I first joined IAOMT— now, now I'm giving away my age— that was in 1992. When I first joined IAOMT, they thought I was crazy because I announced to them that Dr. Huggins insisted on using a rubber dam. And they said, yeah, no, you don't have to use a rubber dam. Now we have the patient draped from head to toe.

That's so true. I think that's overkill to have them draped like that.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. There's a dentist in Calgary Canada, who— Dr. David, his last name escapes me right now. Dr. David did a study. It's like he was very concerned. His daughter graduated from dental school and she was going to be working in his office, so he wanted to know if he was really doing right by her. So he did a little study and he put the, you know, the little 2x2 cotton gauze that we have in our office. Well, he took the cotton gauze and put them in in strategic places all around the patient within 6 feet of the mouth and then proceeded to take out fillings. After the fillings were removed, they very carefully picked up all those gauze, put them in a glass, probably a mason jar, and closed it. Now they still had Mr. Snuffaluffagus, you know, the big suction in front. They had that, they had water, they had high-speed evacuation, they had a rubber dam, they had all the things that we think are safety protocols, right? When they measured the amount of mercury inside the Mason jar, there was more mercury there than there was in the patient's mouth. Wow.

So the The particles do end up there.

Conclusion that he came to was that when the amalgam is removed, you have these little tiny small particulate matter, we call them. Little teeny, teeny little diamonds, but they're not diamond, they're mercury. Teeny little diamonds that are all over within a 6-foot radius of the patient. And while we're putting in the composite filling in the old days, while we were putting in the composite filling, those little particulate matters were outgassing mercury. So even though we thought in the old days, we thought we were protecting ourselves with gloves and a gas mask and Mr. Snuffleupagus and a rubber dam and high vacuum suction, we thought we were doing a good job of protecting ourselves. And little did we know we were getting the most mercury from the time spent putting in composite fillings while the particulate matter was releasing mercury gas. So interesting. That was an explosion. And that's when IABDM in particular said, after the amalgams are removed, everything comes off, all of the draping, the rubber dam, the sock that covers Mr. Snuffleupagus, everything comes off, gets put in a plastic bag, and goes out of the building. Okay, well, everything was cleaned. So you, you came back to the patient in a clean environment to put the composite fillings into the tooth. So at that point, we really went from one level of safety to another level of safety. And who knows what the next level of safety is going to be.

Yeah, very interesting.

Yeah. So if somebody was to become a— tell me that they wanted to become a dentist today, I would probably encourage them to go into orthodontics so they don't have to inhale the toxicity of the dental office. I don't know, really.

It is a very toxic job. You're bringing a good point. And unfortunately, there's no protection. You know, I was talking to David Kennedy And he was telling me about the dental school message, letters he sent saying, you guys are killing these dental students. We do have young dentists listening to this podcast, and I'm sure hoping that they're listening and they're learning early to protect themselves.

Protect themselves. That's right. Yeah, that's actually—

Do you have a good method to protect ourselves from the little microparticles that probably circulate in the office?

Yeah, you just have to take everything off as soon as you finish taking out amalgam. Everything is paper. You have to take it off and throw it away. I mean, I would spread the— we have this cream called HDX cream. It actually comes out of Pittston, Pennsylvania. So who would think? You know, like in the Bible, they said, can anything good come out of Nazareth? Yeah, I used to say that about Pittston, Pennsylvania. Can anything good come out of Pittston, Pennsylvania? But yes, HGX cream, which is a sulfur-based cream. We put it on our hands, then put our gloves over the hands. We put it on our neck, put it on any part of our face that is exposed. You put the HGX cream on first, spray it with a little water to activate it, pat it dry, and then after amalgams are removed, you have to wash all that off you. It is toxic waste. We're in the toxic waste business. We really are.

So why sulfur? Sulfur binds to mercury?

Yes. And yes, so one of the— one of the people always asking me, well, what can I do on my own to try to get rid of the mercury in my body? And one of the recommendations I make is, well, number one, eat foods that are high in sulfur. Which number one on that list is eggs. Egg yolks are very high in sulfur. Okay, and then there's supplements that you can take that are over-the-counter like MSM. That's a sulfur compound. Anything that has sulfur in it is going to bind to mercury. Dr. Boyd—

Let's have a ruggala salad.

Yeah, ruggala salad. Yeah, Dr. Boyd Haley did come up with a product that he used to call Well, it went through many names. First it was Cat Food because he had tested it on his cat and the cat did very well. So first was Cat Food and then it became something called OSR, which stood for Oxidative Stress Relief. And then, um, it was working so well that unfortunately the mothers of autistic children started talking about it and talking about it a lot. Because their autistic children were speaking for the first time. Their autistic children were not banging their heads against the walls. And that all turned out to be a fantastic thing. We live in a crazy country. You know that, right? The FDA—

to the attention of the people who wanted to sell drugs.

That's right. The FDA got wind of this news, went to Boyd Haley and said, you're not selling a supplement. If this is curing autism, it's a drug, and therefore we're taking it off the market until you've done double-blind, 20,000 patients, university-based studies, blah blah blah blah blah. And so OSR was taken off the market. It now has a new name. Are you ready for this? Because, you know, we constantly have to reinvent ourselves in this country to stay on the right side of the jail cell, right? Yeah, they have reinvented it and it's now called the Water Purifier.

I love it. Well, we are 70+ percent water, so—

right, so you can, you can still get it through David Kennedy, and he'll tell you to go online to Water Purifier LLC.

Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes too below so people can, you know.

And that's, that is, you know, it's expensive, but it is the best detoxifier because it crosses the blood-brain barrier, grabs mercury, also nickel, cadmium, lead, all the bad boys, grabs them and makes them non-harmful to the body.

Okay, so incredible. That's the only product I know that does that.

It's the only product that I know that does that. Now we have other detoxifiers. People talk about cilantro. You've got to eat a lot of cilantro. Oh my gosh. I mean, how much can you eat? Chlorella? Well, chlorella is a great product, but it's also grown in water. Therefore, chlorella has mercury in it. That's kind of weird that you're taking a product to suck out the mercury in your body, but the product itself has mercury in it. All right.

If chlorella supplements themselves are tested for mercury, I doubt it. I've never heard of that.

Well, in the old days, Hal used to test them and he always found they always had mercury in them.

Yeah. Wow.

I mean, even we used to test, we used to test omega-3s, omega-6s, the fish oil capsules. That everybody is told to take, but they will have mercury, some of them 10 milligrams. Yeah, you break open one of those capsules and you use your Jerome mercury meter, you'll see how much mercury is in that. Well, it's also, you know, so it's a tough thing getting rid of the mercury once it's in your body. It's not impossible, obviously. I'm here. Yes, I'm here.

Speaking of, how does this story end? Because you mentioned you had leukemia, you had the quadrant removed, so you're still here. But what happened to you after? How did you get well?

Yeah, so I continued having my mercury fillings removed because in the old days the protocol was mercury first. It's still the protocol: mercury first, then crowns, because you never know when you cut off a crown if the tooth is going to be dead underneath. So crowns come off next, and then lastly you take out root canals and do cavitations. So my root canals were taken out last and my leukemia disappeared 3 days later. Wow, interesting. Now I still had lots of mercury in my body, and the old days Hal would say it takes 96 years to get rid of half of the mercury in your body.

Oh my God, nobody has that kind of time.

No, but you know, I took a lot of OSR, so, so maybe I did get rid of half of it.

Thank you so much for joining me this week. Please make sure you check out the show notes for any links mentioned in the show. If you like today's show, please invite your friends to listen as well. That would mean a lot to me. Do you have a question you'd like me to answer? Message me on Instagram at Dr. Sanda Moldovanova. This is Dr. Sanda Moldovanova, and remember, your mouth is the gateway to your health, so take care of it in the most natural and best way possible.