TMJ Relief Through Holistic Dentistry: Objective Measurements, Bite Relationships, and Systemic Health
23 Apr 2026 · 42 min
Dr. Clayton Chan explains how bite misalignment causes TMJ pain and radiates to the neck, shoulders, and lower back through the trigeminal nerve. He uses electromyography and jaw-tracking to find the correct jaw position without surgery or medication, and teaches other dentists these techniques through his Occlusion Connections courses.
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Hi everybody, I'm Dr. Sanda Moldovan, periodontist and nutritionist. Welcome to the Holistic Dentistry Podcast, the show that gives you the tips and tools to detoxify your mouth for a healthier body as we explore together the root cause of disease. Remember, you're not healthy until your mouth is healthy, so take care of it in the most natural way. Hi everyone. Welcome to today's show on the Holistic Dentistry Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Sanda Moldovanovan. And with me today is one of my friends and my esteemed colleague, Dr. Clayton Chan. He is a general dentist who has practiced in Las Vegas, Nevada for the past 24 years, but who's counting? He is an amazing professional who really focuses on relieving pain for people who are suffering from TMJ, jaw pain, headaches, they have craniomandibular dysfunction, and really can release all that through his non-surgical technique. He's considered by many to be the preeminent educator and authority on dental occlusion with expertise on both gnathic and neuromuscular occlusal science with a comprehensive knowledge in objective measurement measuring instrumentation. His training and experience as a general dentist and dental lab tech, along with training in areas of gnathology, TMD, orthodontics, and neuromuscular occlusal concepts, have helped him convey a unique clinical message to dentists, specialists, and dental professionals around the world. And he has his own courses, and we will put that link down in the show notes in case Any dentist and hygienist listening, and mainly dentist, can sign up for the courses in Las Vegas. So welcome to the show, Claydan.
Well, thank you for having me, Sandra.
Yeah, I'm—
It's a real privilege.
Yeah, I'm excited that you're here because we, you know, in dental school, we're not really taught the things that you're going to be talking about today. And I really would love to know how you, what motivated you to learn these things and You have a certain technique that you're using that's, that's special and different, and I definitely want to get to that. But first, tell me about your journey in dentistry.
Well, I am a California graduate from the Loma Linda School of Dentistry. And after I graduated from dental school, I began to ask a lot of questions. I remember my brothers are dentists as well. One's an oral surgeon. I have a couple other brothers that are periodontists and a general dentist, and then cousins that are also periodontists.
Amazing.
Yeah. So from my laboratory background, I went through dental school with a lot of questions about how does the bite come together? How do teeth come together? We recognize that when a human jaw bites together, certainly teeth come together in some kind of what we call MIP position or habitual occlusion. But that doesn't mean it's the most physiologic. It's not the most unstrained homeostatic position always. Because as we saw in clinical practice, we see a lot of overbites, underbites, deep jet, overjet, overlap. And we soon recognize that sometimes patients had jaws that are retreated, their facial profile was retrognathic, we call it. And over time I soon recognized that created a problem when we're doing dentistry. Specifically restorative dentistry. In the realm of orthodontics, of course, we want to have straight-looking teeth.
Yes. And you know what's interesting, that orthodontists don't really look at occlusion.
Right. And so when we see cases, whether today with Invisalign or aligner therapy, The teeth on top are straight, but the bottom might not be lined up with the top teeth.
Yeah, big problem.
And yeah, it is. And so I saw that commonly in my dental practice years ago, of course, prior to aligners, therapies, and the way orthodontics is being done today. But we saw this with regular everyday cases. And over time, I recognized some of my patients were complaining of muscular pain, like facial muscular.
You're talking about muscular pain, like in the face. And what about the back of the neck?
Same thing. Back of the neck. But at first I didn't correlate the two. And in fact, I was fearful of it. When a patient comes in and says, I have facial pain, all of a sudden that throws out our realm because we were Procolodontitis. Yes. Gums. The periodontium. The nerves of the roots. You know?
Yes.
Was it an exposed dent? Well, that didn't cause me pain. And so I then thought by referring the patient to an oral surgeon, that would remedy the problem. And I soon recognized that didn't remedy the problem.
So true.
Patients would come back. They say, Dr. Sanda Moldovanova, I already went to these different specialists and I'm still having these problems. Or I'm having to take these medications. It's not working. I think it's related to my bite. Time and again they said, I think it's related to my bite. After I had to use that bite aligner, I'm having these problems. And then I, I start asking further questions. How does this work? So I was listening to different doctors at different study clubs. And one of my early mentors, Dr. Sanda Moldovan, down in Rancho Santa Fe, California. I was formerly from San Diego anyway. Now I live in Las Vegas. But at that time, he Presented and told the group how he was able to practice with a half-time assistant with his lab, which is his own lab in his office. And when Dylan was here, I was alone.
Wow.
Wow.
I'm blown away listening to this.
It was very affluent area. He was working with down in Rancho Santa Fe, California, North County. And I just got done setting up an office with 8 operators.
Oh my goodness.
And I had no patients. And he had high-level patients coming, paying his fee, with one dental chair. How's he doing this? So I asked, can I come visit him? And he said, come on over. So for the next 2 years, I was intrigued with learning what he had. Now, of course, it was heavy methodology, such as relation philosophy and technique, uppermost rules at that time. And so I learned a lot of the details of cusp-fossa relationship from him. But as I was treating my patients, I remember this one patient, she had worn down lower anteriors. And I thought, well, let's just go ahead and add them up, fill them up with composite, not knowing about bite properly. So I built up these anteriors. They look beautiful. But over time, the patient would come back. She says, I'm getting headaches and facial pain. So I do the laying down. Re-shooting position, manipulating jaw in a repeatable manner, and the bone looks perfect. Got the active film in there, all pressed fasten. Fixes this up, says, okay, that's good. Then we'll come back and tell me I'm getting headaches again. I look at the bite and I see the anterior teeth are hitting first. So I repeat the process by relieving it, grinding it down, letting it go. She repeated it. She repeated it to come back. And I found myself grinding it right down again.
Interesting.
Until, you know, I was right back down to the original state of things before I started the whole process. And I knew something was dramatically wrong with my philosophy. And I began to search for better answers. Every time I saw her at the grocery store, I felt embarrassed because I could not resolve her problem. That was a real dilemma for me. So I began to search. I began to search for better answers. I ran into a doctor, James F. Geary, of Fullerton, California. He was a pediatricist. Board certified, who in short relinquishes his license as a specialist and asks the state of California to give him back his PT license. Wow.
Because he really believed in what he was doing. I'm sure.
Yeah. He believed. Yeah. I went to his course. On the door it says James Gary. EBS, general dentistry, cranio-mandibular orthopedics. I thought, wow, what is that?
Wow.
And I was listening to him thinking I knew all about dentistry and TMJ, and he was up at the front talking about shoulder posture, hip posture, leg postures. He was talking about upper airway. Upper airway obstruction. And I believe Jim Carey was the pioneer that conveyed to our profession sleep apnea and airway issues as he saw them develop with his young children.
Yeah. And people need to know that dentistry is not just about teeth and drilling holes in teeth. So I'm glad, I'm glad we're talking about this.
So he taught about having proper tongue function. The tongue is very important to help develop the oral cavity from the early childhood development. If the tongue is functioning between the teeth during growth and development, you'll develop an overbite, where that posterior part of the tongue is falling over the teeth, blocking the 6-year-old from verticalizing into the oral cavity, which then affects the facial and the transverse dimensions of the jaw and face.
Very interesting.
Yeah. So he recognized proper nose breathing was very important for his patients. He would call it having proper nose breathing. Oxygen was best. And it's interesting.
Yeah, it's interesting because it wasn't, it wasn't until James Nestor's book called Breathe came out that really the whole world realized, oh wow, this breathing through the nose is important, but Super. You know, that wasn't until years later.
Yes. Yeah. So I was greatly impacted by these kind of doctors who took me outside the realm of now looking at how the oral cavity affected the bite, how it affected the jaw joints. As well as all the musculature. So when I began to do my everyday dentistry, I was now looking at my patients from a different perspective. Before, I was so focused on looking for things that were wrong with my patients' teeth. The broken fillings, leaking margins, you know, any cracked tooth or gum recessions, things to do insurance companies would pay for. But I recognize healthcare is a lot more than that. How do we get our patients stable, physiologically healthy, so when we do the dentistry, it has a long-lasting effect? Because we recognize the only insurance companies only— So-called warranty procedure for what, 5 years?
Exactly. It'd be nice to have a good— not a good longevity, 5 years. Yeah.
Right. Well, then we just need to make dental restorations for 5 years and then do it over again.
Exactly.
What kind of health profession is that?
So what is gnathology? You mentioned that word that I know some people listening don't know what that means.
Well, gnathology is a term from the Greek word gnathos, spelled with a G. G-N-A-T-H-O-S. Gnathos. A study of the jaw. All those schools in North America, pretty much around the world, are basically not logically based, meaning that we've all been taught that the jaw is like a hinge. It works like an articulating, right? The hinge acts as a rotation.
That's what we've been taught. Yes.
Yeah. Certainly it certainly has rotation and translation, but the dental articulator no way is close to the way the human jaw actually operates with an articular disc on both sides. And the, the articular disc doesn't have muscles. It doesn't have the muscles that actually help move the jaw in multiple dimensions. Not only is it vertically, laterally, or anterior-posteriorly, But there is 3 other dimensions called pitch, yaw, and roll, aeronautical terms. That Dell articulator doesn't have the pitch, yaw, and roll. So if we're trying to find the bite, theologically we're going to restore the jaw. How do we properly find the pitch, yaw, roll, as well as AP, vertical, and frontal correctly? As it relates to conditions of the jaw joints, whether the jaw joints are in a pathologic condition or a healthy condition or some kind of compromised position.
Yeah. And most, most dentists practice using articulators. And for those, you know, patients listening, like basically those are simulators of the jaw that we use on the bench sides to make crowns and bridges and restorations. Of course.
I call them all Modelers.
That's right. That's right.
Whether it's a NAR, Pan Dent, SAM, you name it. I have quite a few articulators in my lab. They all do the same thing. Whether they're fully adjustable, semi-adjustable. I can even do a full mouth rehab on a door hinge. Seriously.
That's amazing.
I could be very good, but it's not about that. Yes.
And you also studied neuromuscular. You're combining the neuromuscular philosophies.
Yeah.
And you created kind of your own way of dealing with temporomandibular disease or disorder.
Yeah. Uh, real quick before I mention more about the neuromuscular. With an athology, it taught me the cusp-fossil relationship, the anatomical form, but in the wrong position, I would say. It wasn't always in the most physiologic positions. But the neuromuscular doctors, through Jim Geary and his colleagues, presented to me a concept that allowed me to look at muscle activity, job positioning location, and joint sound analysis with objective data, with objective recording. Technology. Through electromyography, we can see the muscles' activity. We can also, with jaw tracking, see jaw movement and positioning in space. And with the electrosonography, drawing sound, we can see the condition of the opening and closing patterns of the voice, whether it's quiet or noisy, if there's clicking or popping. And if you correlate all of those, and you then be able to find a more physiologic neutral position of the lower mandible to do the job. Then you can get out of it on articulator. But not until you find that consensus. We're guessing.
Yes.
So that's what Norm Foster presented to me was the science of objective measurements, regardless of philosophy. It just doesn't measure these parameters and then make your own conclusion about where to apply it and how to treat it.
Very complex for sure.
Complex, but actually quite simple.
Okay.
It's very simple. It's very logical that technology doesn't have a bias as to a particular ethical philosophy. It just measures. As dentists, we will then formulate our understanding of what that science actually is telling us now. So when we as human beings, for example, our patients have patient attention, Temporomandibular headaches, neck headaches, or whatever. I call them the musculoskeletal signs and symptoms. When their jaw is asked to relax, they can relax their lips, relax their shoulders, and let their jaw hang and relax. And then slowly let their jaw slow down. I ask the patient, where do they feel their teeth first touch, and oftentimes they'll point to the front or to the side. Very rare is it like all my teeth are evenly aligned. So I see recognized in all of our worst curriculum. All of that is our worst curriculum. Okay.
Very interesting. So basically, let's say if somebody kind of relaxes, like you said, and you know, I encourage anybody listening to actually do this exercise, a simple exercise, relax your shoulders, relax your jaw, and then slowly bring it together. Together, let's say they touch in the front, is that a sign that they should do something about that?
Well, there's two points with this. The body is very adaptive. Thank goodness that the body can accommodate according to our dentistry. No matter how perfect it is, or not as perfect sometimes, the body can adapt according to it. And say, I'm fine. Yeah, but when it reaches a certain intolerance level, a level of overcoming a threshold, then things begin to create problems. So you can do perfect dentistry in the wrong position, and the body can't adapt to that. Okay.
Yeah.
So, right? Right. So if we're going to do more sensitive testing, I would like people to do it in a manner that the body doesn't have to accommodate so much as far as ADT or vertical. So if the patient is, I call it, a needle-goldfish person, very, very accommodating capacity, it probably does mean you need to look at a little more careful. Relationship with this jaw in which I might get to that position. If the patient is not complaining of any pain or discomfort, why post it? Proceed to do normal dentistry. 80%, 85% of the time it's going to be fine. But let's say 15%, 20% of the cases that we might see, trying to repeat that process like we normally do, what will work? No matter how great of a dentist you are.
Yeah.
And so that's a patient I see.
Yeah. A lot of the patients that I see nowadays too, they're, you know, because of stress, clenching and everything, there's a lot of pain that arises and not just headaches, but pain down in the neck, even the trapezius muscle. So, yes. This, this can definitely trickle down. Once their bite is in a more ideal position, do you find that this pain can be relieved?
Absolutely. Absolutely. And the 25 years of my practicing this kind of dentistry out in Las Vegas. I haven't had to write prescriptions at all. That's amazing. I have a DEA license. I can write whatever. But that's not the remedy for the patients that are flying to Las Vegas to see me. They've already been on a lot of medications.
Yeah. That's good. No, no.
Yeah.
Holistic with a W and an H. Absolutely.
Absolutely. We're trying to get patients healthy, not dependent on pharmaceuticals.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
So going back to this, when a patient is feeling facial tension or soreness, I know immediately the front teeth are touching too much, creating torque in the back. When the patient complains of occipital tension, Or temporal headaches. That tells me not enough support in the back. There's not enough support of occlusion.
I see.
So it doesn't mean that we grind down the front teeth. We need to add up in the back to help the compressed condyles. That's what produces the popping in the jaw joints when the condyles are not decompress properly.
Makes sense. Now, how does occlusion influence systemic health?
Well, it's huge. The, the occlusion, as you recognize, is controlled by the trigeminal nerve. The trigeminal nerve is a 3-lane nerve. It has the biggest ganglion that has 3 branches, the ophthalmic, the maxillary and the mandible. The sensory root of the trigeminal nerve is what controls jaw movement. So when this nerve is stimulated because of the afferent, not just stimulus that can come from the bite being wrong or high interferences, It will create and trigger such symptoms as this, creating tension throughout the body from head to toe. Head to toe. Therefore, when occipital muscles are tight, it will affect the shoulders. These muscles also go back down to the sacrum and ilium. Toward the pelvis.
I see.
And these muscles, when they're not happy, create clenching.
Can you have hip pain or lower back pain from this?
Yes, you can, certainly. It can go both up and down. The question is, what is resolving the problem? Is it from a bite or is it from the lower extremities? You see? So the body works as a complete functioning unit. And as dentists, we don't realize how powerful the trigeminal system is. It controls so much of the— the controlling mechanism up here. It affects the lower extremities of your body, down to your knees and your feet.
Wow. Yes, everything's connected. Not musculature, but also fascia cells. Yeah, so important. Yeah, interesting how you say that. Now, how do you integrate spiritual and emotional awareness into your clinical practice?
That's a very profound question, Sandra.
Yes, we are all about profound in this show. I want to get down to the bottom because emotions pay such a big factor in, you know, all of our choices.
Sometimes we think we're so great. We think we have all the answers. We have the technology, you know, today, and we should be able to fix everything. But as a human dentist, as a human, we recognize we have some shortcomings. We don't know everything. And so when I have had patients come, they've been to 25, 50, 150 doctors. You read everything. They, all the doctors were great doctors. You see the stack of reports. They spent time doing the MRI studies, the blood tests, whatever. Sometimes full mouth rehabs were completed, or maybe not. So whatever the situation was, it wasn't working. And then the patient comes to me out of desperation. I, only thing I could do was pray to God. Say, God, how can I help this person? And be a servant to them. Because no matter how great of a physician I am, I recognize now that the true creator of the human body, of heaven and earth, he can't fix a broken soul. He can't break, he can't fix a broken spirit from traumas that were mostly impacting them as effects in the structural, physical realm. So sometimes I acknowledge communication, talking to my patient and asking if I can pray for them. And they're so grateful for the prayer, recognizing that there is a healthcare provider that goes beyond just trying to sell more dentistry. Sometimes it's not about that, or maybe part of it. But it's just making that human connection and bringing myself and them back to focus on who is the real healthcare provider. And that's what I believe.
Yeah, I can relate to that, Clayton. I mean, and you know, the moments that I have a difficult surgery in front of me, you know, I pray that the right energy is channeled through me to help that person heal. Because that's working through my hands.
So true.
Yeah.
I've had patients come, they were so nervous because they weren't sure how much they could trust me. Maybe it was a cyst doctor that did their mastectomy. Wow. It's very traumatizing.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so they just want reassurance. And so sometimes we have to go deeper into saying, oh, I'm going to be a great doctor for you, but how do they know? How do I know? So sometimes we have to dig deep within our soul, our heart, our spirit, and just give it to God and say, you can help do the healing here. Yes.
So, so important.
Give us the wisdom. Give us the confidence as well as help our patients. Give them the peace of mind.
Now, when we talk about TMJ disorders, there's just so much mis— misunderstanding about that. So can you, can you, can we talk about maybe one or two common, most common misunderstandings about the TMJ disorders?
Yes. Yes. TMJ is actually very simple. But as a dental professional, we come up with it. TMJ of course means temporomandibular joint. We all have joints. It's the dysfunction that throws most dentists, and they're fearful of that, right? TMGA comes from unhappy muscles that affect the spine, that impact the joints. Temporomandibular dysfunction is not just about having bad joints. The bad joints adapt over time. The disc can then also displace anteriorly or medially, and then it creates clicking, popping. But then that also is impacting the way the teeth are occluding, creating the setting where, uh, creating gum recession, bone recession, when both, both joints, the muscles and the occlusions are not harmonizing one another with proper head posture. So TMJ typically is when the doctor doesn't know what to do. Okay.
Yeah, pretty much. Or maybe they say, oh, here's a night guard.
Right. And he recommends a night guard. I can do it. Right, right. Or it's a sleep apnea because you can do clenching and grinding. But when these things that we tell our patients it is and it's not, then we say you must have orofacial pain. We don't know what it is. It's some unknown mysterious problem, but it really is not. Okay. Yeah. What that tells us is just push our paradigm of whatever we learned from all the great doctors. In our educational system. That's what I need you to know. What was the missing part of what we weren't told? So, CJD is not mysterious. It's not mysterious once you understand the answer. In fact, it's quite simple. Okay.
Yes, absolutely. We just have to recognize it and be taught how to identify it. Yeah. Yes.
TND is not just a psychological problem. It's not just an emotional depressed problem, anxiety. It could also include biochemical imbalance as well as structural imbalance. But I'd say 90% of TND is a somatic psychic problem, not a psychological somatic problem. So when I see people, they say, they say, what cure can you give me? I don't, I don't. I can only guarantee that maybe 50% of your problem, because I'm not an emotional guy, not a psychologist counselor, I'm not a nutritionist, in which many of us, we should, we really should know about this. But I can help you in the structural alignment. Of the teeth, which is my alleged gift. I'm a general dentist, so I deal with the things that I can deal with as a dentist. And my golly, it's amazing how these pieces unravel just by getting the bite, the lining clear, the muscles become happy, no headaches, no tooth pain, the improvement of their sleep improves. On top of that, they're not breaking teeth.
Yeah. So that can get expensive, breaking teeth for sure.
And that keeps you behind. So I'm thinking, if this is working, then why not keep doing more of it? Right? Right. Yes. Absolutely. So that's what we do.
I love it. Now, I know there is dentists listening and, you know, wondering about your courses. So can you tell us where we can find your courses? What do those courses look like? Is this like a 1-year residency or is just something we can learn in a shorter amount of time?
Well, I first encourage any doctors to come take our Level 1, 3, 4 course. I think those will be the fundamental key courses that are up to curriculum. We, we set the first course up so they can understand the concept, the thinking process of recognizing what they were fearful of. So no longer fearful when they're doing their tests. This will help them to become experts, master doctors. Then we get into the diagnosis. It's a 2-day course. Each course is 2 days. We'll be going to how we relate the various muscle spelt up signs and symptoms, identify correctly, understanding how to read the graph and interpret them properly. And then we, in the level 3 course, we layer that in with how we address the 4 categories of problems that doctors are fearful of, including the normal job. The 4 categories would be how to deal with the cervical neck dysfunction problems that affect their bites. How do we deal with our Class II division 2 retrognathic maxillary cases that affect our bites? How do we deal with the TMJ primary bite problems? The patients that have joint derangement problems or retrognathic jaw problems. How does that fit our dentistry? And then lastly, anterior complete cases. How do you find vertical, proper vertical or anterior complete case that has pain or no pain? These are the 4 mystery areas in a profession that are filled with profession avoids. Yes, because it didn't fit. The restorative periodontal or the orthodontal periodontal occlusion. But at Exception Connections, we deal with all four head on and it becomes very clear what we could do. So we help our doctors find vertical. What is— how do you truly find vertical without manipulating the jaw? How do you find the perfect AP position without touching the jaw?
Super, super important.
Yeah. Super. So these are the 4 basic courses. We have other courses dedicated to technology, job tracking, we have courses on bike management, start to finish, how you do full mouth reconstruction, restoratively, and land the contact point properly. You know, when you do full mouth rehab, Why do you, Dennis, always build a bike 66.5? It might be comfortable, but you're just better in a flat position. Yeah, that's true.
Yes, it doesn't address the muscles, the position of the joint, the headaches.
Yes, because for them it's the safest position that they know that they can rely on. That's pathologically reproducible. We need to find a physiologic reproducible position. So we have that course available. Then we have other courses into further refinement of how we deal with the orthotics, how we stabilize that patient physiologically, get rid of all these symptoms to get the patient neutral. So we can then rebuild something that is dysfunctional if we need to. At least it gives them a Starting point and a clear ending point. Think about this. I was always enamored in Delphi when I saw a textbook on methodology. I open the textbook and I see these pictures, diagrams with all these point contacts on cusp crossing. Wow. How do you do that? Like, that's amazing. Yeah. Because when I do my industry, I put a client. Like a splint, and then you put the paper between the teeth. Where is the markings that show up first?
That's right.
Second molar, right?
That's right.
Okay. Think about this. So I've looked at all over the world. I asked the Australian doctors, where does the mark show up? They say second molar. I go to Japan. Same thing's happening there. You go to USA or Germany. It's happening everywhere around the world. So that means we all got a naturalistic-based concept that's giving us the wrong result. When I'm putting a appliance in or putting a full rehab, restorative back in, or dentures, wouldn't it be nice to put all the restorations back up? You sit the patient up, and then when they close the contact, wouldn't it be nice to have all the contacts show up at the same time?
Yes, that would be amazing.
That's what a closed connection is about. That's what we're looking for. Not some icebox grinding down until everything comes back again. No, that's not acceptable. By the way, we wipe out all the anatomy, all the cusp bosses, the translucencies, the mandibles.
Yes. Are your courses in person in Las Vegas?
Yes, they are. They are.
Okay. So when is the next course?
Oh, the next course is, I believe, gonna be in March. Okay. We have to look at the date.
It's 2026.
Okay. You look, you look. Yeah. Yeah. 2021. In 2026. 2026 coming up. Coming up.
Perfect. We're gonna put that, uh, once you know the exact dates, or people can go to your website occlusionconnections.com where they can find out where the next course is and really dive deeper into this holistic way of practicing and understanding the way the whole jaw functions.
It really is.
Yeah.
It revolutionizes all our doctors' world. Answers to the questions that have always been mysterious, causing us to feel less confident. This builds confidence back into our doctors.
And probably more fun to practice.
We should be able to order back the case.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, I'm so glad you were here today to talk about this very important topic on how the teeth come together, how as dentists we can help people with TMJ, with headaches, shoulder pain, and even perhaps lower, lower back pain and hip pain. Absolutely.
Yeah.
Everyone, where can people find you if they have a question or they want to come as a patient perhaps?
Well, they can certainly email me at clayton@drclaytonchambers.com, or they can call me. At 702-271-2950.
Perfect. And we'll put that down in our show notes as well.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much, Clayton, for being on our show today. This was super enlightening.
You're welcome. You're welcome.
And thank you everybody for listening. I hope you found this episode interesting, and if so, please share it with your family and friends. Until next time, keep smiling. Thank you so much for joining me this week. Please make sure you check out the show notes for any links mentioned in the show. If you like today's show, please invite your friends to listen as well. That would mean a lot to me. Do you have a question you'd like me to answer? Message me on Instagram @DrSandaMoldovan. This is Dr. Sanda Moldovan, and remember, your mouth is the gateway to your health, so take care of it in the most natural and best way possible.
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