Driving my old 911 and talking about the best online biz for complete beginners

Dylan Vergara argues high-ticket sales is the best entry point for beginners because it requires low capital, transfers to any business, and resists AI automation. He built a $9 group chat into a paid community, then an agency and media brand, and says sales skills are both how you earn and how you land jobs.
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Team, we're on the, we're on the action cam. We're on the go. Before we get into this clip, I want to share with you our new wins challenge. Pop it up here. We are going to start— terrible light. We are going to start tiering the wins post in our community. So bigger, better wins, get more points, win better prizes. December— well, we're about to spin the wheel. December, we gave away a Shure microphone, boom arm, and blue light blockers. January, I don't know what we're giving away, but we're gonna make it good because we want people to post wins. We have this problem in our community because we're so job-oriented where people get jobs and then they stop, they stop being like as active. They go in to make all this money. A lot of them tell us about it. Some of them don't. We are dashcammed up, not only in the front Probably can't see them. We got a rear as well. Also got a new key. For the longest time, I didn't even have a key. And what we're going to do now is go mount on them. And not only mount— told you guys we're stepping it up. 2026, man. No more elementary stuff. We got 2 mics. One mic for me, one mic for something else that may or may not work. I got this one on, obviously. Check out the view. I wish the lighting was better, but we're about to get there. Got this other mic that I am going to clip back here. We're going to see if we can hear some good stuff. So we're clipped on. Let's see if me starting the car absolutely torches this. By the way, if your key isn't on the left side, what are you doing? Got our dash cam. Let's get you mounted up here. Test, test, test. Hopefully it sounds good. I don't really know how the camera angle is gonna play out here. Hopefully the footage Isn't just nuked. We are gonna get to our topic, but I just wanted to test the audio a little bit. I think that was pretty good. Still have our mic. I think the audio is a little blown out. There's really nowhere else to put this, so we are gonna rock with it. And I'm gonna tell you guys about the best business model, the best online business model. And I'm going to drive to the skate park, and I don't have skate park shoes on, but we're still going to go crank the turbos a little bit, tell you guys about the best online business model, because I've tried a few, failed a few, had success with a few. And I'm going to mount up and we're going to get out of here. K40 on. I'm definitely going to be putting the audio of the exhaust in and out because I can see it on the camera and it's like blowing out. I got like a little 5-minute drive. I want to talk about the best online business model, and not only the best to just like get started with, lowest barrier to entry, but also one that is kind of like— it just Teaches you how to do the other ones better, and if you drive a low car, you know what I'm doing right now, which is hitting a driveway super awkward and causing a traffic jam almost. When I was in college, I got bit by the online money bug because I didn't really like what I was doing in college. I think that attracted me towards that a little bit more. There were a couple people in. In my city, I'm from San Antonio, not too many online money hustlers there, but a couple people there that were in the e-com space. And so e-com was my kind of first in. I only knew one of them and he wasn't very far into it, but I was on money Twitter in 2017 and I came across this dude, Nate Schmidt, homage to him. And he was like, yeah, e-com is freaking awesome. But when I first started, I didn't have money for e-com. And I was like, whoa, me neither. I don't have money for e-com. And so we started doing copywriting and he was like, well, copywriting is a skill that, you know, you learn it and you're gonna get paid and it's gonna help you do better with e-com. I then go down the copywriting rabbit hole and I find someone on Twitter, I buy a course and I go on to sign really like one major client. I think it was like $700 or $800 a month, canceled after month one. He thought it was like a one-time time deal. I thought it was ongoing. I don't know whose fault it was. It was my, my first online business. It was probably my fault. I made that dude like $40 grand in month 1. He sold— he actually has a huge YouTube channel, sold an e-commerce product. I had some other clients on like rev-share basis and we would get super, super small rev-share payouts, but they were basically zero. So copywriting, I don't know, I just didn't crack it, right? And And I then went on to try different types of e-com with the little money that I was making. I was still hustling in the job, in my pizza delivery job. I just couldn't make e-com work. In hindsight, all these business models work— copywriting, e-com, agency, software, media. But my gripe with all of these is how pseudo-accessible they are, especially because of the people online that make content around these businesses. Saying, yeah, I was a 17-year-old idiot and I now make $100K a month with my agency. Turns out the whole time they're probably selling info and they're not even doing a B2B agency service. That's a story for a different time. I also tried SMMA. I tried lead gen for chiropractors and realtors, and I signed some clients on rev-share basis because when you're starting out, it's easier to do that. It's easier to get people to take a bet on you. So there's some game there if you want it. That flopped too. So I didn't really flop with copywriting, but I was like hustling backwards. E-com, it kind of flopped. I made some sales. I don't even know where the money went. I don't even know if it went into my bank account. I literally made like a handful of sales on a product. The agency, kids these days call it SMMA, it was just like lead generation for me. Didn't really do shit with that. Kind of flopped. And I'm thinking back and I'm like, dude, why didn't all these things work? And my conclusion now that I've had 2 7-figure businesses in the online space, an agency and a coaching/service-based business, community-based business, the one I still run, because there's too many moving parts. And if there weren't too many moving parts, there was like a large barrier to entry either from capital or knowledge, meaning I just didn't have the money to start it up, you could argue. Ecom is that because I didn't have money for paid ads. Ecom back in the day was a little different than the free UGC stuff. Or what the more common thing is was there was too many moving parts that I just like was not aware of. And even though maybe I knew that they were part of it, I didn't know that like web design is something like that could be the whole thing in itself. Like with an agency and with ecommerce and with a lot of these other business models, let's just talk about an agency. With an agency, and now that I've done 7 figures with an agency, there is the service that you're providing. Let's say you're an agency. Let's talk about my agency, sales agency. There's the service you're providing. Then there's like marketing to get clients for that service. Then there's sales to get clients for that service. And then there's web design there and there's fulfillment, there's operations, there's accounting, there's taxes. I was about to fricking rip on this road, but there's a car in front of me. Soon. I gotta let you guys hear it. All of those things are, are things that people will like dedicate their entire livelihood to. There's a million marketing channels. There's a million ways to sell products, different sales cycles, client success, all these different things that, you know, like it would be unreasonable for an 18-year-old, 19-year-old, 20-year-old kid to just crush that from the jump. What's easier is freelancing, but more specifically sales. You could say freelancing as a salesperson. Here we are, you guys. We're at the skate park, and I just realized in a past video I broke a bearing and I don't have a new bearing. So I have my skateboard in the frunk, but no, I can't use it. It doesn't work. So that's kind of, kind of sucks. Probably going to hit a little highway rip. Here's what I like about freelancing, and I'll talk about the, you know, high-ticket remote setting or closing thing, contracted stuff in a sec. Really, if you just get really, really good at that skill, you can go sign a client or 2 or 3. You're going to be working like 3 jobs. Nobody's going to tell you that part of it. But here's the difference between sales and copywriting as a freelancer, because I know a lot of people like copywriting right now. You can get AI to do all the work. I guess it's a good model. People have success with it. It is important if you get really, really, really good at copywriting but don't get at all decent at sales, you won't sign any copywriting clients. You probably could. You could post on Twitter, go viral. Look, if you want to charge money that's worth charging, talking multi-four-figure per month retainers, you need to know sales. And this is why I love sales and remote setting or closing or high-ticket sales, whatever you want to call it. Well, one, this This is a skill that a lot of people have gone and learned in other industries, have been paid potentially a lot of money to do before. So it's like a paid internship. But 2, with sales, man, if you just have good attitude and ambition and drive— oh, you know what? I might be able to rip this road right here. Ah, some traffic. I heard the turbos. If I heard them, I know you guys heard them. I am going to pull over and figure out the best way to get to the highway. We'll let it rip. I'll stop yapping, get on with our day here. So with copywriting, you got to get really damn good at copy, and you probably need to get good at sales. With, let's just say, web design, not as an agency but as like a freelancer, you got to get good at web design Then you probably need to get good at copy so you can like write ads or advertise. Then you probably need to get good at sales. What's another one? Let's just say like client success optimization. I don't know, just like you gotta skill, you can freelance it. You gotta be good at that. But then you also have to learn how to market. So like naturally, if you're better at the things that are more top of funnel for these businesses, there's less skills for you to learn. But here's why I love sales, because one, again, you can get like the paid internship, so to speak. But then also you learn one skill, not 2, not 3, one. And it is sales because you learn how to sell to do the job and you learn how to sell to get the job. The way that you're finding these jobs is you're, you're applying to jobs that are posted online for the most part. If you're sending cold DMs, that's tough, man. Stop doing that. You should just be applying to open job posts. The issue with like being a media buyer and running Facebook ads for someone is it's a little bit harder to find people that are looking for that unless you go on like job posting sites, probably looking for someone in-house to underpay them. I love sales because the same skill that helps you get paid in the job is a skill that gets you the job. And it does not cost money unless you want it to cost money, unless you want training or community or group or something like that, or easy access to jobs because your time is valuable. It can cost money in that regard. You can literally go on YouTube and find hundreds of hours of sales training from the best in the world for free. So there's not a knowledge gap. You only need to learn one skill and it's pretty damn AI-proof, man. Yeah, I know you guys have seen it, the AI dialers. They're hot, they're sexy. You hear 'em, they do a role play, it sounds good. They all fizzle out, man. Comment down below one that has not fizzled out that's been around for more than a year. I really do think being a salesperson, it's pretty damn AI-proof. Damn, this road is sick. Hold on, you guys. I bottomed out a little bit. It's chill. I don't think I'm supposed to go fast, so I'm gonna hold it till we get to the highway. Oh, we're at the highway. One thing about a Porsche, I don't know if all Porsches are like this, but mine is, the gears are super long. So I can, dude, I could rip like 90, 90 miles per hour in 4th gear. I can also rip like 60 in 2nd. Also a little lore for you guys, I basically learned how to drive manual in this car. So if you don't know how to drive manual, it's not that hard. You just gotta nut up and buy a manual car and put yourself in a position to be forced to learn. You know why else I like sales over the other business models? Because if you decide that you don't like the remote sales space, you don't like setting or closing, nothing is stopping you from taking it into another industry. Tech sales people love to hate on the high-ticket stuff. I know a lot of high-ticket people that have gone to tech sales for one reason or another, maybe because they're— they just needed more stability or, you know, wanted more career-oriented focus, that get tech sales jobs that, you know, other people really want. So it definitely transitions over. So the upside is there because we know Most people can make $30,000 a month in sales. No startup capital unless you want to make it easier or make it faster. Transferable skill that you could apply to either another sales job or a different online business. Like being really good at sales for sure helped me start a sales agency. Like no doubt about it. Being really good at sales would for sure help me be good at copywriting. I want you guys to hear it fart. You know, back in the day, that dude was saying like, hey, if you don't have money for e-com, you should do copywriting. And it's true, copywriting works. I wish he would have said you should do sales because you can still get the money that you need probably faster and then apply that to e-com. Lesson, boys and girls. I mean, if you're watching my video, hopefully you already know this, but sales is is the one, man. You learn the thing to do the thing. There's not other things that you have to worry about, like an agency where there's a million things that could go wrong. Salespeople are in super high demand. Sorry, AI kids. Get paid a lot. And you can either just continue to get paid a lot or take the money and do something else with it. Like right now, what I'm doing, well, what I've done is I got into sales, started posting on social media. I already told you, I told you guys about this in the last video. Started posting on social media. From that, I started a group chat for $9 a month. That turned into a more expensive group chat, which is the community that I run today. It's been 3 and a half years. Off of the combination of that and social media and the connections that I formed, an agency naturally spawned. It was super natural. That agency did 8 figures client revenue in its first year, made me and my partner a decent amount of money. I sold out of that and I started a sales media brand because I learned media, I learned sales, I learned service-based business, which doesn't have to be involved here. That's the, that's the fact of the matter, you guys. People are always going to sell you on their way. Obviously, I'm going to sell you on my way. We made it back just in time at the end of the rant, and hopefully you're picking up what I'm putting down. If you are struggling to make sales good for you, just know if you can't make sales good for you, it's going to be hard to make something else good for you. And you might not be a natural salesperson. I wasn't. It might be something you need to work on. Totally cool. Totally normal. But man, some people, you know, I work with salespeople in my community. Some of these guys, man, I never really think they're going to be the big earners, the $20K, $30K guys. And they proved me wrong. And so I just like to say anything is possible as long as you put your mind to it. Corny. I was the opposite of a sales guy. I made it work, made my first 6 figures in sales. That gave me the skill. The capital and the courage to go start my own online business that then turned into multiple businesses. And you and I are probably not too different. So take that for what it's worth. Wrap this up.










