How He Earns a US Wage From The Maldives with High-Ticket Sales

Alrighty, you guys, we are back with another community member interview this time. Humam, you've been in, um, it's gotta be almost 2 years now, right?

Yeah, almost 2 years. Yep. Got in in 2023. Yeah.

So it's been a while. You've been grinding, you've been working at it. The reason why we're here is cuz you shared an update. In our community last week of passing a million dollar set and making some solid money relative to where you live. You guys don't know who mom is in the Maldives, so U.S. dollar goes a lot further out there. And yeah, man, I mean, I'm excited to jump into that and show people what's possible.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, I came into the space. I was on Twitter. It was during COVID I was going to high school and I was on Twitter and I was seeing all these guys making money online. I was like, this is kind of crazy. And I was looking, looking, and I came across you and your posts. I was like, hmm, this might be interesting. And I was kind of dabbling in it, but really it was making little to no progress. I met this guy, Fahd. I think he was in your community. I think he still is in your community.

Yeah.

Kind of introduced me to you. He was like, this guy's pretty cool. He's helped a lot of people. I was like, you know what? I've been applying to a couple of jobs previously. Believe it or not, I could not formulate a correct sentence in English. Even now I struggle a bit. But yeah, I didn't know how to speak English at all, so I had to kind of learn that. And yeah, I got into the community and Dylan kind of helped me out. And I actually had my first solid role through you. I remember you putting me on and that kind of helped me rebound from that offer. I was on the offer for like a couple months and then from there I got shot out. Really?

Yeah. I didn't know that you didn't know how to speak English before you joined. That's pretty crazy.

Yeah, I didn't.

How soon before you joined did you learn English?

I mean, I knew how to speak, but I never really spoke it. I speak Dhivehi, which is our language over here in the Maldives, so I never really used it. I used to be the kid who used to speak Dhivehi in English class because I didn't really like speaking English, but then I had to kind of learn it. I used to rap along to songs. kind of get rid of the accent. I still have a bit of an accent, obviously, but yeah, now I can actually speak with people abroad and they can understand me. I can understand them and the sets are easy.

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy, man, to know what you're doing now and then just fast or like rewind 2 years back, you didn't even hardly know how to speak English. That's pretty crazy because a lot of people coming into this, they have they have that as a barrier in their mind. Not even the fact that they don't know how to speak English, but like an accent. Like they think that their accent is going to be a barrier. And depending on how strong it is, it can be. But you not only learned how to speak English, but also learned how to like manipulate your accent so that way you could be, you know, as conversational as possible with, um, people in the US or Australia where you're selling now. That's pretty cool. Um, so you, uh, as of lately, we were just catching up a little bit before this, but you've been on a team for about 8 months now, um, selling into the Australian market, which hopefully is a little bit easier on you time zone-wise than selling US. I'm not sure, is it?

Yeah, it's much easier. I have to wake up early, so wake up anytime 4, 5 AM. Much better than staying up late at night working US. I think a lot of reps based, um, in the APAC time zone, they stay up late, but it's just not my thing. So I work AUS.

Yeah. Yeah. And through that role, you, you made the post, you passed a million in sets, but you've been hovering in that $5K to $7K range as far as commissions, appointment setting. Um, and obviously you're in the Maldives, the dollar goes a lot further there. What's been your experience working in that role the past 8 or so months, making that money and living where you do, where that dollar goes further?

I think first of all, starting with the offer, I think you have to be on a couple of shit offers. I think like you said, like a million times. You have to be on a couple of shit offers until you find that offer that really clicks. And this guy, the sales manager, super solid dude, super solid offer. Me and him started out, it was just me, my sales manager, and the offer owner. So I was setting all the calls. The guy was taking all the calls, closing calls. Our sales manager was closing the calls. And we've scaled that offer up to, I think we are doing like— 10, 15 calls a day. $200K per month now. We start off like $30, $40K and I helped them scale up all the way up to $200K. And we have like 2 additional sellers. We have 3 closers. There was a recent change in management and company's growing really big. They're going to scale up to like a million dollars per month. So things are looking good and it's been really invaluable. And living here in the Maldives while doing it. I mean, the average salary here is $500 per month. So being able to make at least like $4,000, $3,000 at the very minimum, it's been life-changing to say the least.

Yeah. What's the coolest thing you've done since starting to make that decent money? What have you, what's the coolest thing you've done with it?

Just being able to kind of live financially free, like kind of have that ease of mind. I'm planning on retiring my father soon this year. I'm not making enough money to make that happen because I have to support my whole family. But knowing that I can make it happen within this year, having that ease of mind really is just— I mean, I want Lambos, I want Bugattis, but Better than that, I think, is being able to care for your family and really be a protector. And I think just having that freedom, knowing that how much money you make depends on your skills and how much better that you can become, if that makes sense. Having that power in yourself, I think that's been a life changer. Yeah.

What about, um, what about like your experience? 'Cause I know you've been on a couple of offers. You, you already mentioned that here, but I, I kind of know the journey you've been through over the last couple years. And, um, what's been your experience, man, being outside the US, um, having an accent? Like a lot of people, they, they might have those things and then they get, you know, really negative limiting beliefs and don't even Try or they they give up or they get down on themselves. So like, what have you been able to do to make sure that that is not like a limiting factor for you? Like the the time zone and the accent and that kind of stuff.

In my opinion, I think it just comes down to mindset and just wanting it bad enough because the first offer you put me on it was PST, so it was. 13-hour time difference. I was waking up at like 6:00 PM, sleeping at like 3:00, 4:00 AM. I was doing that for a couple of months. And there came a point I was like, I feel like a zombie. I can't do this anymore. And I got on my second offer and that was kind of better. I was working like UK time, so that was better. So yeah, I think it's just wanting it bad enough. You'll do, you'll do stuff to get there. You'll watch American movies and kind of try to mimic the accent. You'll learn how to speak English. It's just wanting it enough. And yeah, in terms of limiting belief, yeah, it is true. If having an accent, especially if you're on the phones, it does affect things. But I guess it's just getting over it, just being confident and just going after it. Yeah. I mean, it's easy to say, but when you're actually doing the work, it's hard.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't wanna make it sound like it doesn't add a layer of complexity because it, it does. There's always gonna be people that, um, you know, wanna hire in their time zone or wanna hire someone with an American accent. But I always tell people, man, like from, with, with most accents in the world, like there are people in the US that live here. And have lived here their whole life that have the same accent as you. So like Americans, in my opinion, like that's not, it's not that big of a hangup because Americans have accents too. Um, it's just the time zone and being able to convince them that you can, you know, adjust your schedule if needed and wake up at those hours and stay awake for whatever hours. And as soon as you have that peace of mind, or the business owner has that peace of mind, they're much more willing to take a bet on you. Um, so yeah, I guess what for you, like living a kind of, you've had to like build your schedule around the offers that you are working. This, this latest one in ASD or AST, you said? Um, yeah, you're working, waking up at ADT, you're waking up at, uh, what'd you say? 5:00 AM or 6:00 AM? 4:00 AM.

Yeah, 4:00 AM.

4:00 AM. And then you're working until, like, starting work when and then stopping work when typically?

Start off at like 4:00 or 5:00 AM. I end off at like 3:00, 4:00 PM. Start off early, finish off early. I sleep around this time. Yeah, it's pretty late in the night for me.

Yeah. You, we had a couple of reschedules cuz I know you're, Busy guy, um, trying to get your sleep as well. So what can you say, Mom, about, uh, the importance of actually having a network and being connected to other people who are in this industry, who know a little bit more, who know other people? Uh, how did that play a role in you getting to where you are today?

In all honesty, like, having a good network is, is a game changer. Because if I didn't come in touch with this community, like I wouldn't have known what's kind of possible. I mean, I know what's possible, but really knowing the people who are on those offers that you want to get into, that those are the, for example, the offers you want to get into, they're not putting out job posts. They're asking the salespeople on the teams like, hey, do you know anyone who is a good fit? And then it's all referrals. So it's just building that network around you that kind of leads you, you know, to having that job security, I guess. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's, I mean, it, it's hard to understand from the outside in, but if you've ever truly given this an attempt by yourself and you're just sending all these cold applications and Scraping the internet for any job you can find, it's not very fun doing it by yourself. Like a warm referral into an opportunity goes so far. And that's at like every level. That's at the beginning level. Like you got your first role 'cause I had made the connection with the business owner. And then like through that, you mentioned Farid. I mean, he, he Mm-hmm. Introduced you to the community. I introduced you to the business owner. I'm sure there were other people that you've met along the way that helped you get into certain positions. Like imagine if you just never talked to anybody, like you, would you be retiring your, your father this year? Who knows? You know?

Yeah. So who knows?

It's free.

I would say it's just kind of free accelerating your progress. It's just getting there faster. Like I've always been open to investing in myself. I'm actually looking at getting into a closing program again. These guys are making like $40K, $50K a month. So hopefully I'll be closing by end of year full-time. I'm actually taking some calls part-time for an offer. So it's just all about getting into the right circles and just, you know, making things happen. It's all about networking.

Yeah. What, so for you, man, you've passed $1 million in appointments set. So obviously you know what you're doing there, but when you're And you have your target set on closing. You've just mentioned, hey, I'm looking into getting into some, some training or a program to help with that. Uh, you obviously are— you just said you're taking some calls as well. Like, what are you kind of focusing on to make sure that you can go from setter to closer by the end of the year? Because a lot of people, they get hung up there as well. They're like, I don't know, you know, I've never— I don't have closing experience. I don't know how to get a closing role. So what are you going to focus on?

I think the main thing is just role plays and actually getting on calls. Like I'm on another mentorship. I won't name drop here. I'm on one, I'm working with my sales manager. So basically it's sales mentorship. We hop on like almost daily. We do group role plays. Basically he kind of supervises us. So he's a closer. He knows it inside and out of it. So he kind of corrects us in real time. I think the main thing is just getting role plays, daily reps in, and then also taking those reps and actually going to closing calls and actually doing it. Because you can't swim by reading a book, you have to do it. It's kind of the same thing.

You think you're going to close on the same team or a different team?

Hopefully I'd close on the same team. I'm using that script. The team is awesome. The sales manager is awesome. So yeah, it would be really cool from setting to closing. It's gonna be nice.

Yeah. Random question, man. When are you coming to the US?

I'm actually looking at potentially going, but so expensive there, bro. So expensive. I might go South America, maybe Rio. Have a couple of friends there. Maybe Medellín, but America too expensive at the moment.

Yeah, at least to travel. You gotta, you gotta check it out. Check it out on your way to South America. Have you been before?

I have some friends in Miami. They've been asking me, you know, Miami boys, but I might, might go there.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Well, um, let's see, man, what did we talk about? We talked about getting in, talked about the community a little bit, how you set yourself apart, you know, not being in the US. Um, you're looking at closing, some of the cool stuff you've been able to do, uh, since appointment setting, save some money, travel. Where, where have you traveled to while doing this?

I've been Aussie. I've been, uh, Southeast Asia. I mean, obviously Bhutan, Nepal, so not really much, but I've been able to go a couple of places. Yeah.

Yeah. So a couple places I've never been to. So cool. Let's see. All right, let's rewind in time. Imagine yourself running this email marketing agency like you were when we first met. And you're, you're sitting across from your current self at a table and you're, you know, everything you know now, you've done $1 million in set appointments. You're about to start closing, making good money, and you're giving your, your past self future advice or, uh, yeah, advice based on the future. Like, what are the 3 biggest things that you would tell your past self to get where you are now faster?

I would say the number one thing would be take sales seriously because I didn't really take sales seriously. I was doing email marketing. I was really focused on making the product better and just studying email marketing and all of that. But if you don't have sales skills, if you can't sell yourself, you really can't get anywhere in life. And then second thing, Just getting reps in every day. If you're learning sales, just getting the reps in every day and actually doing it, hopping on calls, closing people. And yet how to get here faster would be investing in mentorships and actually reaching out to people. I know it's more than 3 things. I'm just going back and forth. But yeah, would be being serious about sales, would be investing in mentorships. Like it's the number one hack that I've gotten to where I am. Because from where I'm here in Maldives, like literally no one does that. I'm the only guy in Maldives that I know about like who does this. So literally no one does this. And anyone else here who's making money is either in politics or selling drugs or owning resorts. So it's like a mixture. And then yeah, thirdly would be networking. I didn't use to network when I first came in. I was like, you know, it's found a bit cringe. But then as time went on, I just started connecting with people. And actually, when networking, I think the main hack for me as well, like previously I used to always look to get something out when connecting with people. I think when networking, just being curious, just being interested in who they are just helps out a lot more, come off as more natural. Yeah, so a bit all over the place, but yeah.

Yeah, I think I used to think the same about networking. Um, it feels very fake and transactional, but, uh, I don't even really try to use that word all that much, but just talking to other people who are doing what you do, I mean, it, there's no way that you get worse by getting more perspective on what is working for other people. You know, um, if anything, you hear what they say and you think, I don't want to do that. And then you save yourself time because you heard Their experience. What last thing I wanted to ask you? You just mentioned, and I was I was thinking this, but you mentioned that nobody does what you do over there. What do your friends and family think about what you do? Do they understand it? Do they think you're doing something illegal? Like what what do they think?

Well, that's a tough one. My dad still thinks I'm on the laptop just playing around. Like, he tells me to get a real job, but he kind of understands it since I'm bringing some money in. But he's still gonna ask me, like, when am I gonna go to a real job? Nobody really understands it. Like, a few people get it, but I think the concept over here is it's not popular. It's not— most people don't get it.

Yeah. Do you have friends that ask you to teach them or to connect them and help them do it?

Yeah, I've had a couple of guys ask me, and I've been training one guy who's been really persistent, but the others, not much. Nobody wants it as bad because it's difficult, to be honest. It's difficult, especially from this part. I won't say, I don't wanna say it's difficult, but it's just you have to need it. You know, you are gonna be awake midnight working. It doesn't feel good. It sucks. You're gonna face a lot of rejection. Yeah, I think a lot of people lack that drive. If you have the drive, you can do it. Yeah, it's difficult. Of course.

It's seasons of life, man. Like you could do this for a couple years. At minimum, and you'll set yourself so much further ahead than where you would've been otherwise. And, you know, in the grand scheme of things, working at midnight's not so bad when you retire your family, you know? Um, so exactly, just seasons, you know? Um, anyways, man, I guess we can wrap it up there. If you guys are watching this and you want to connect with Humam, I'm gonna put— I'm gonna ask him after what he wants me to put down there. If you guys, uh, want to connect with him, go ask him some questions, go, uh, see, see what he's up to. Uh, he's also in the community, so you can connect with him there. Um, let's see, I think that's it, guys. So if you guys are interested in checking out the community, obviously go to the description. Um, check out some of the other videos in this playlist, and we take it from there. So, Hooman, thank you for coming on, man. Um, I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do In the next year, start closing. When you hit that first ten K month, you got to come to the States at least for a weekend.

Yes, sir. Soon, soon.

Cool. All right, man. Well, thank you for coming on, and I appreciate you sharing your unique experience with everyone who might be listening.

Yes, sir. Talk soon.